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While I'm not surprised at having to have a certain monster to recruit other monsters, I cannot say I expected you to have to have a monster you are unable to obtain your first time through.
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I love that the big bad's name is just... Scott. Hi Scott.
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May 29, 2013 21:15
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Doctor Reynolds posted:I love that the big bad's name is just... Scott. Hi Scott. I really enjoy that too. It sticks out in this setting as much as someone named Xynomorphia would stick out in a game set in Minneapolis.
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May 29, 2013 23:15
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Gensuki posted:Mystical Elf's support Ability is actually nice enough to warrant using her, if you build a team around her (Not as hard as it sounds) Her fusion material partner is also good enough to just use by itself. And since pretty much every fusion is "worth it" (Except maybe...2 or 3) Mystical Elf can be pretty good. The Mystical Elf is a fusion material monster? The only cards I can think of that relate to the Mystical Elf are the monster card Mystical Elf and the trap card Gift of the Mystical Elf. Although because this game takes some things form the first season then it could fuse with anything. Artix posted:To be completely honest, I'm not sure where it pulls the deployment costs from. It's not from your initial gold supply, because if so I'd start the next chapter with ~500 gold instead of ~2200. It might come from the end-of-chapter rewards, but we're not at a good chapter where I can easily test that. I've been going over some of the previous updates to check deployment costs of monsters and seeing how the cost is worked out. So far I can say it definitely isn't a simple v + w + x + y = z equation, perhaps LP, Attack and Defence need to be divided by an amount and AP left alone.
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May 29, 2013 23:25
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there are some fusions in this game that aren't actually fusions in the cards. It's to keep you on your toes, you know.
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May 29, 2013 23:40
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Monster exclusive. How wonderful that the first one you meet can't even be recruited first time through. From how you worded it, interesting how the Gemini Elves are separate creatures. Considering how it used to be a strong monster early in the card game's life I'm hoping they have the stats to match. But I wouldn't be surprised if their stats don't match the difficulty recruiting them. So with Joey and Mai showing up now, what's taking Tea so long.
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I know it's way late, but I think I have an idea about how Navy works. You said in your mechanics post that water monsters were relatively slow on land, so if Mako was reaching a town in the same amount of time with a swimming team and a non-swimming team, doesn't that mean he sped up the swimmers? I don't have the game handy to test if the swimmers are actually slower without Navy though.
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May 30, 2013 02:02
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Blue Ghost posted:The Mystical Elf is a fusion material monster? The only cards I can think of that relate to the Mystical Elf are the monster card Mystical Elf and the trap card Gift of the Mystical Elf. Although because this game takes some things form the first season then it could fuse with anything.
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Blue Ghost posted:The Mystical Elf is a fusion material monster? The only cards I can think of that relate to the Mystical Elf are the monster card Mystical Elf and the trap card Gift of the Mystical Elf. Although because this game takes some things form the first season then it could fuse with anything. Fusion is kind of weird in this game, to be honest. Some fusions work exactly as advertised (see: Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon), some fusions are there but are made with different monsters because of the "only one of each monster" thing (see: Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon), some Fusion monsters are just regular dudes that are there (see: Zombie Warrior, which is actually a fusion of Skull Servant and Battle Warrior), and some fusions make monsters that aren't actually fusions at all (see: Mystical Elf and its partner). So when we say it's fusion material, that could mean basically anything. Artix fucked around with this message at 03:49 on May 30, 2013 |
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May 30, 2013 03:42
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Yep, that sure is a Duelist Kingdom era YGO game.
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We'll deal with Mai next map when we can actually use her. For now, let's talk about Joey. Yugi's second "wave" of marshals are much more specialized than the first wave, and Joey is a fantastic example of that. See, Joey is all about power. He starts with a huge amount of BP, and has fantastic growths to match it - Yugi will be the only one who's even close to being in the same ballpark. Final stats come out to 10-7-7, but for most of the game, Joey will be your go-to guy when it comes to smacking thing really hard. Also, he's another Constructor marshal, which doesn't hurt. Joey will soon have a BP bonus greater than Yugi's, and it will probably stay that way for all of a sane player's playthroughs. He's a great marshal the moment he arrives, and I'm a big fan of his starting team.  Moving on to his monsters, Giltia the D. Knight (I believe it stands for Divine, but don't quote me on that) is a pretty ho-hum Warrior. He's on the slower side (5 AP), but his stats are respectable and he adds Castle and Field-Adept to his repertoire, in addition to a special that does damage to all Dark monsters (which basically means all Fiends and Zombies). I don't think it's particularly strong, but even if it were, situational attacks generally aren't worth the cost, especially when it's a special attack. Given the Anti-Dark special, "Divine" sounds like a pretty safe bet to me. He's not great, but Giltia's not exactly dead weight either.  Flame Swordsman is more or less a complete upgrade from Giltia. He gets one more AP, slightly better stats, the same slate of abilities (Field, Castle, Road), and his special is "Attack all enemies" rather than just a certain type. Still not anything that's going to blow your mind, but a step up nonetheless. One of Joey's signature monsters, with a perfectly compatible essence right as he starts. You'd be fine just leaving him as Joey's leader forever. Also, he reminds me of someone else.  And finally, we have the Robotic Knight. He starts off alright, but he falls off pretty quickly, not even breaking 4000 ATK and barely hitting 4000 DEF. To his credit, he does have a ton of HP, picks up Armor and Road-Adept, as well as a special that hits all enemies for all that's worth. He's not bad for now, but there are much better monsters to use come endgame. Not much to really vote on this time, unless you really want to change up Joey's team for the next map. He, Tristan, Yugi, and Shimon are all we're allowed to bring, so if you want to beef up any of their teams, now would be the time to do it. The Monster Reserves Mystic Horseman - 974 HP, 1348/1596, 3 AP, Field-Adept, Orange Orb Feral Imp - 879 HP, 1482/1583, 2 AP, Night-Adept, Green Orb Celtic Guardian - 988 HP, 2316/1600 (w/ Legendary Sword), 4 AP, Road-Adept, Green Orb Zombie Warrior - 951 HP, 1638/1350, 3 AP, Night-Adept, Dark Gray Orb Beast of Gilfer - 1200 HP, 2200/2500, 2 AP, Night-Adept, Dark Red Orb Yugi Dark Magician - 1250 HP, 3111/2206 (w/ Book of Secret Arts), 2 AP Winged Dragon - 945 HP, 1847/1677, 3 AP Kuriboh - 553 HP, 2914/823 (w/ 2x Multiply), 4 AP, Night-Adept Tristan Illusory Gentleman - 1479 HP, 2953/3070, 6 AP, Night-Adept Swordsman - 757 HP, 1434/958 (w/ Legendary Sword), 4 AP, Road-Adept Summoned Skull - 1523 HP, 2577/1276, 2 AP, Night-Adept Shimon Beaver Warrior - 1149 HP, 2161/1960 (w/ Legendary Sword), 3 AP, Forest-Adept Blackland Fire Dragon - 1256 HP, 2220/1565, 3 AP, Night-Adept Penguin Soldier - 660 HP, 1014/768, 5 AP  For next map, poor Tea has found herself in a bit of a sticky situation. While our primary goal is to get her out of trouble, that's no reason we can't do a little monster hunting while we're here, right? Never was much good at monster hunting. Too grindy for my tastes. The Safari rules have been updated, but otherwise we're under standard conditions. Good luck, goons! Artix fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Jun 1, 2013 |
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May 30, 2013 12:13
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Alright, looks like we're past the part I played to so I guess I'll jump into the Safari. Guessing two monsters:  One where that red dot at the top is, and the other as a reward for completing the mission.
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May 30, 2013 12:40
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My stopped clock tells me that there is only one monster, and that it's in this weird little bubble of grass down here:
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May 30, 2013 15:42
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The D. in Giltia's name is actually spelled out in the dub and officially stands for "Dark", he's called "Giltia the Dark Knight". He was just "Magical Knight Giltia" in the Japanese so I'm not sure how they got "Dark" from that. There's no shortage of similar headscratching translations in Yugioh, As a case in point Dunames Dark Witch. Despite the name the Dark Witch is actually a Light Attribute Fairy/Angel because they attached the name to a card called "Dunames Valkyria".
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May 30, 2013 15:59
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At least 4kids can say they aren't the worst translation of Yu-Gi-Oh.
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May 30, 2013 16:10
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Endorph posted:At least 4kids can say they aren't the worst translation of Yu-Gi-Oh.  I need to know what card he's playing there. What on earth could it be? It's not a monster card... and you don't announce trap cards, so it has to be a spell... But what? 
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May 30, 2013 16:15
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Heart of the Underdog. The hong-kong subs translate Underdog as retarded, which leads to a great little episode where everyone calls Joey retarded. It ends with Kaiba saying 'Shut up stupid retard.' Basically, everyone should watch the bootleg subs. At one point they mix up Joey and Serenity's names for like seven episodes straight.
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May 30, 2013 16:19
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Why don't you swap out the Robot Knight for the Celtic Guardian? When has Hong Kong subs not been the best thing ever?
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Hmm.... let's throw a dart! This is my dart. In addition, the die came up with a 2 so you'll need a specific character. Give Celtic Guardian to Joey in exchange for Robot Knight.
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May 30, 2013 21:33
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 Well, that answers my question about Tea's whereabouts. Guessing there's just one monster at the yellow because it looks like all the action is in the north side. Guessing it's in the river because stuff moves slower and Mako isn't here to reach it faster. Also, no conditions to find it this time.
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May 30, 2013 21:33
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So just how drunk/underpaid was the original Yugioh translation team?
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I'll copy this, General Yeti has ridiculous accuracy so far. One monster, no special requirements. Because honestly, I doubt they can do that too often. Vorpal Cat posted:So just how drunk/underpaid was the original Yugioh translation team? Better question is how much of a poo poo did they give?
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Honestly, it was probably more a question of being under a thousand different draconian restraints about what they should put into dialogue. Shadow realm shadow realm shadow realm.
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Welp, missed the past few safari runs. I'll just guess right behind the home castle. Would be hilariously funny if I got it right, but we'll see.
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Endorph posted:Honestly, it was probably more a question of being under a thousand different draconian restraints about what they should put into dialogue. Shadow realm shadow realm shadow realm. edit: Erp, misread that. Ramos fucked around with this message at 01:49 on May 31, 2013 |
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 Straight up and down at the mid point between towns produce these results, thus the logical thing to do is pick the mountain that looks different. So one monster and let's ride this special condition train until it comes off the rail or I lose nerve. I see what you mean by there are just fusion monsters that come as is. Both of Joey's knights are fusion monsters but are treated as normal monsters in the show. Robotic Knight seems a little strange for Joey to have instead of something like Alligator's Sword.
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Endorph posted:Honestly, it was probably more a question of being under a thousand different draconian restraints about what they should put into dialogue. Shadow realm shadow realm shadow realm. And yet they were able to yell about god cards all the time. Censors are weird things.
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Blue Ghost posted:I see what you mean by there are just fusion monsters that come as is. Both of Joey's knights are fusion monsters but are treated as normal monsters in the show. Robotic Knight seems a little strange for Joey to have instead of something like Alligator's Sword. My favorite part of the show had to have been when Polymerization just combined two random cards and it didn't match up with the TCG at all. And then when Flame Swordsman was a normal creature  I can't wait to see what weird rules they have for fusions in this game.E: Ramos  I'm just going to wait until last minute from now on.
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 Orange dot I guess? I also think that there is a special condition. Certain person maybe?
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GeneralYeti posted:E: Ramos I can wait until the last thirty seconds then. 
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Vorpal Cat posted:So just how drunk/underpaid was the original Yugioh translation team? They weren't drunk, those are the Hong Kong subs made by people who probably know Japanese but sure as hell don't know English. They repeatedly call Kaiba "Seahorse" and his dragon is sometimes the "Green Eyes White Dragon". Momomo posted:And yet they were able to yell about god cards all the time. Censors are weird things. If you go back notice how they always say "Egyptian God Card". I think every single line the dubbers had to make explicitly clear that they were talking about Egyptian gods to avoid offending the Beckys of the world.
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Omnicrom posted:They weren't drunk, those are the Hong Kong subs made by people who probably know Japanese but sure as hell don't know English. They repeatedly call Kaiba "Seahorse" and his dragon is sometimes the "Green Eyes White Dragon". To be fair, Japan doesn't really distinguish between green and blue. On the other hand, English sure as poo poo does, so they must have never looked at what it described or anything
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Hellioning posted:To be fair, Japan doesn't really distinguish between green and blue. 緑 = Green 青 = Blue Unless there's something cultural that I'm missing here, there is separate kanji for blue and green.
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May 31, 2013 03:00
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Ramos posted:緑 = Green Actually, the Japanese word for 'blue' is more accurately 'blue/green', not merely 'blue'. (It's just almost always translated as 'blue', unless doing so would be inaccurate.)
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May 31, 2013 03:54
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What I want to know is who over here saw this show about demon summoning, mind torture, vengeful ancient Gods and thought "Hey, this would be great to market to little kids!"
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May 31, 2013 04:09
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4Kids probably jumped on Yugioh for the same reason they did Pokemon: unlimited money.
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GeneralYeti posted:My favorite part of the show had to have been when Polymerization just combined two random cards and it didn't match up with the TCG at all. The Duelist Kingdom had some really funny polymerization combos like Mammoth Graveyard and Blue-eyes Ultimate Dragon. I would also like to make a correction to my previous statement that said Mystical Elf isn't used as a fusion monster, Kamionwizard uses Mystical Elf but is such a terrible card that I forgot about it.
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May 31, 2013 04:25
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Since my imgur skills are terrible... I'm guessing there'll be two monsters on this map. One from the enemy base, and one south and slightly to the east of the center town.
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Aerdan posted:Actually, the Japanese word for 'blue' is more accurately 'blue/green', not merely 'blue'. (It's just almost always translated as 'blue', unless doing so would be inaccurate.) I believe みどり (midori, the word for 'green') is a fairly recent addition to the language. A Sudanese co-worker of mine always wanted to call green things 'blue', so it wouldn't surprise me if it was a thing they picked up from someone else.
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Lizard Wizard posted:I believe みどり (midori, the word for 'green') is a fairly recent addition to the language. A Sudanese co-worker of mine always wanted to call green things 'blue', so it wouldn't surprise me if it was a thing they picked up from someone else. Ah, that's pretty interesting actually. Though since Japanese is largely derived from Chinese, it makes me wonder if the Chinese were similar in that regard. Though a quick look on Wikipedia shows that this is common enough through various languages to need its own article. Huh.
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