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Brawnfire posted:I didn't know where else to put this. I hate people. Regardless of whether you did or not, just say "I didn't get drug tested for my job  Sorry you chose a job that involved oppression. It's a free market, go find a less lovely employer"
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Nice Davis posted:I like your approach here. I've recently started doing things kinda the same and it feels so much better than the bash-head-against-wall tactic of futilely trying to change minds. Right. I used to explain my positions. Then I tried arguing. After that, I tried insulting their belief systems. Now, I just recognize openly that these people are twisted so far around that they're settling on classism to avoid nuanced thought. It makes me want to vomit, and I'll let them know that they make me viscerally ill with their opinions. RagnarokAngel posted:He probably will just say he doesn't do drugs so whatever. "The innocent have nothing to hide" is an easy doctrine to preach until it affects you. It drives me damnably nuts, especially since 1.) The person who posted this originally works in a drat doughnut shop, he doesn't get drug tested and smokes weed every day. 2.) The person responding with these virulent diatribes against the impoverished is self-employed, so he doesn't even have to answer to this system he's advocating. What sort of bastards try to expand the lovely war on drugs when they know they're never going to be touched? I didn't even blur it that well because I don't care, one of us is in the wrong here and it's pretty obvious that it's the one with the broad brush in hand.
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Michigan was the first State to actually implement suspicionless drug testing for potential welfare recipients, back in 1999. When it was deemed unconstitutional, U.S. District Court Judge Victoria Roberts wrote this for her court's opinion: http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=13040978699174765839&hl=en&as_sdt=2&as_vis=1&oi=scholarr Marchwinski v. Howard posted:"If the State is allowed to drug test FIP (TANF) recipients in order to ameliorate child abuse and neglect by virtue of its financial assistance on behalf of minor children, that excuse could be used for testing the parents of all children who receive Medicaid, State Emergency Relief, educational grants or loans, public education or any other benefit from the State. In all cases in which the State offers a benefit on behalf of minor children, the State could claim that it has a broad interest in the care of those children which overcomes the privacy rights of the parents." I rather like that.
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Jun 1, 2013 21:50
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Amused to Death posted:Regardless of whether you did or not, just say "I didn't get drug tested for my job This is pretty much the only response. My job as a Union Thug didn't drug test me and never will, because the most dangerous equipment I'll ever deal with is a computer.
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Jun 1, 2013 21:51
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Is "We should drug test Wall Street, BP, and the Koch brothers if they want subsides" a thing? That should be a thing.
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Jun 1, 2013 22:20
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I think we should periodically do drug and alcohol tests on congress, the same way they do it in the military. Pants down to your ankles so we can be sure you're not wearing a whizzinator and an inspector who keeps visual control of the test bottle at all times. I'd like to see how long it'd stay legal in the US. (Who am I kidding, they'd just make it illegal to treat rich people that way)
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Jun 1, 2013 23:08
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I think we should periodically do drug and alcohol tests on congress, the same way they do it in the military. Pants down to your ankles so we can be sure you're not wearing a whizzinator and an inspector who keeps visual control of the test bottle at all times. Every time a state tries passing one of these bills, a Democratic representative invariably offers up a bill that would also require the drug testing of the legislature since they all receive public money. None of the amendments ever passes. Dr Christmas posted:Is "We should drug test Wall Street, BP, and the Koch brothers if they want subsides" a thing? It's not because if you throw that back at someone who loves drug testing for welfare they'll just say "Hey those guys should've never got a bailout to begin with"
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Jun 1, 2013 23:20
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Yeah conservatives actually really hate bailouts too and believe in complete free market darwinism, so you won't get far with that angle. Particularly since OBUMMER is the one who handed them out.
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Jun 2, 2013 00:20
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Interlude posted:The average voter doesn't ever sit down and evaluate the logical consistency of their views, which results in disconnects like this. See also, fearing government power but embracing the death penalty, war on drugs, gay marriage bans, etc. This is a couple pages back, but I've realized from reading the Freeper thread that people who scream about BIG GOVERNMENT while also calling for the denial of, say, gay marriage or for the deportation/death of all Muslims don't want freedom from government, they want a dictatorship that agrees with them.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Yeah conservatives actually really hate bailouts too and believe in complete free market darwinism, so you won't get far with that angle. Particularly since OBUMMER is the one who handed them out.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Yeah conservatives actually really hate bailouts too and believe in complete free market darwinism, so you won't get far with that angle. Particularly since OBUMMER is the one who handed them out. Sometimes, but you gotta remember, the Tea Party was started with "...But now that we have the bailout, we are suffering like Holocaust victims at the mere suggestion that we should not spend it on hookers, blow, and bribes."
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Jun 2, 2013 01:10
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JohnClark posted:They don't actually hate them, they're just happy to claim that they do when it's convenient to do so. No, the average person I know is consistent on this fact, they hated the bailouts of the banks, they hated the auto bailout, they hated the stimulus, and they would've let the economy completely implode because they hated the bailouts. Even the original TARP legislation under Bush had to be passed with Democrats providing the main support.
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Jun 2, 2013 01:12
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      The mental gymnastics one will go through to justify Umbrella-gate and all that other stuff of Obama Doing A Thing.
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I like how he keeps trying to phrase it like "It doesn't REALLY bother me, now let me type out paragraphs of  about how it bothers me."
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Jun 2, 2013 04:34
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I keep hearing Republicans say that they'd criticize a white President for these things, yet nary a whimper can be found prior to Obama from anyone complaining about these things. It's as if there's something different about Obama...
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Jun 2, 2013 05:34
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:I keep hearing Republicans say that they'd criticize a white President for these things, yet nary a whimper can be found prior to Obama from anyone complaining about these things. It's as if there's something different about Obama... There is just something that I can't quite put my finger on about him. I don't know; I just don't trust him.
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Jun 2, 2013 05:45
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I'm not racist you guys, I have a lot of black president friends.
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Jun 2, 2013 07:17
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I think at this point as a conservative candidate you can just run an add that says "Don't vote for him he's BLACK!!!" Unironically and not lose any supporters.
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Jun 2, 2013 07:31
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This week in LL101 ...is this relevant to a single freaking thing?  Boy Scouts. "Dammit. Now that the Boy Scouts are forcing us to be tolerant of others, we have no CHOICE but to pull our kids out and never fund the organisation again. drat those Liberals, they've discovered our one weakness - we're complete shitheads."  ....yoga?  How do we improve a funny internet meme? Relentlessly shoe horn in our own paranoid rants and talking points!  Months old rumor? Didn't ever happen in the first place? Centered around one instance of one show and ignoring the hundreds of counter arguments one can find on nearly every sitcom made in the last 50 years? ITS A LIBERAL CONSPIRACY!
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What's that last one even about, it looks like one of the many generic 'we film hillbillies doing hillbilly things' shows, was there even any drama about that?
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Tatum Girlparts posted:What's that last one even about, it looks like one of the many generic 'we film hillbillies doing hillbilly things' shows, was there even any drama about that? I think it's Duck Dynasty, which is an A&E reality show about a family who owns a business that makes hunting gear. Basically like The Osbournes but with more camo and beards, I guess? I'd never heard of it before my sister and brother in law started posting the odd meme from the show on Facebook. Anyway, there was a fake controversy about how the show was going to be cancelled because liberals were complaining about all the praying the family does on-air. Both the family and the show runners said that was not true (but what do they know?). Turns out the rumor had started because the family and the network were arguing over salary, and after circulating through the rightwing chain-letter rage machine it became a liberal plot to destroy Jesus. edit: Snoped
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quote:I love the tacit implication that all homosexuals would of course become pedophiles if they were in proximity of children.  
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Fulchrum posted:This week in LL101 If I had to guess, I'd say that it's relevant to Liberal Logic 101 itself, using the old "It's a joke" defense (You liberals just don't understand the literary technique of hyperbole!) for the fact that everything they say is complete bullshit.
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MisterBadIdea posted:If I had to guess, I'd say that it's relevant to Liberal Logic 101 itself, using the old "It's a joke" defense (You liberals just don't understand the literary technique of hyperbole!) for the fact that everything they say is complete bullshit.
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MisterBadIdea posted:If I had to guess, I'd say that it's relevant to Liberal Logic 101 itself, using the old "It's a joke" defense (You liberals just don't understand the literary technique of hyperbole!) for the fact that everything they say is complete bullshit. So, I guess they're admitting that their caricatures of liberals have no basis in reality.
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Fulchrum posted:
So, has anyone pointed out to them that they're making sexual innuendo about an image of a child?
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Dr Christmas posted:So, has anyone pointed out to them that they're making sexual innuendo about an image of a child? Only proves how low Homosexuals are going!!!
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:God you liberals can't take a joke it's just hyperbole!!! The most amusing part is that neither of those resemble socialist tyrants.
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Dr Christmas posted:So, has anyone pointed out to them that they're making sexual innuendo about an image of a child? I, too, look forward to earning the buttsex with children badge.  These people are insane.
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Sir Rolo posted:I love the tacit implication that all homosexuals would of course become pedophiles if they were in proximity of children. A. cite B. cite C. cite D. cite A. cite B. cite C. cite D. cite I really wished that worked, but every time I ask for sources from people they just get angrier. I'm this close to realizing how stupid I'm being and just not bothering.
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Cross-posting this from my AI thread. Carforum.jpg - This from a Facebook Miata club. 
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I am horribly offended by some of the words that awful man used, like "buckaroobas." Also, I don't know what human rights the Chinese are going to take away from American workers in America, unless they're going to move the entire pig operation to China (also they'd have to try drat hard to have a worse record on worker's rights than Smithfield Foods). And if he's worried that Smithfield Foods is going to be stripped for parts and dissolved, I really don't see how boycotting Smithfield will save those American jobs.
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Not The Wendigo posted:A. cite First one is due to the relentless homophobia still persistent in our culture leading to a decreased satisfaction of life. Second and third are this rear end in a top hat thinking that prison behavior is indicative of all homosexual relationships (They start with the premise that everyone in prison is gay, and both follow from there). Fourth one is exclusively about Aids, and I bring out my counterargument that Lesbians contract STD's a hundredth the rate of heterosexual couples, and the Aids rate dropping to less than one five-thousandth. The second 4 have even less of a claim to reality, coming from insane ravings of dickheads. I swear, most of their arguments seem to come from the premise of "The people I oppress are just as vindictive and hateful as I am, so you see, I can't stop oppressing them, or they would oppress me!"
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Fulchrum posted:First one is due to the relentless homophobia still persistent in our culture leading to a decreased satisfaction of life. I think this claim is a particularly evil one. It's not true, but sounds plausible, so you try to defend why homosexuals have a lower lifespan but still aren't bad people. But by doing that you've bought into the false premise and keep it going.
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How many of those AIDS cases can be explained by despair?
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This came across my feed with the caption, "HAHAHAHAHAHA, this is great!" When I commented that I turned it off after 20 seconds of strawmen, he repsonded that I should have waited until 1:30 and then it was really great at 3:00. I watched this entire loving thing! The good news is that sometime after I posted, "Sorry man, this isn't funny." He deleted the post. So, win? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ro6fcj6Ek
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Do people who watch this not realize how completely insane the "characters" are? The entire conversation is between a lunatic and a moron. Why are these so popular? And why the hell do they use those lovely "3d movie" websites with the Microsoft Sam voices? Is there some weird compulsion to spread bigoted horseshit via as many mediums as possible?
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"Hi, I'm a feminist." "OH NO!"
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Wapole Languray posted:Do people who watch this not realize how completely insane the "characters" are? The entire conversation is between a lunatic and a moron. Why are these so popular? And why the hell do they use those lovely "3d movie" websites with the Microsoft Sam voices? Is there some weird compulsion to spread bigoted horseshit via as many mediums as possible? Apparently so: Gay Marriage explained Affirmative Action explained Gun Control explained I feel so educated! 
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Oh man oh man oh man! I posted an Xtranormal video my dad sent me to this thread YEARS ago, but it was at the bottom of a page and I failed to introduce it properly so nobody remarked on it IIRC. It is fairly long (7 minutes), but features:
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