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NYCThe Walking Dad posted:Could the red door shape in the New York picture be the original world trade center viewed from an angle where one building is occluded by the other? Possible, but unlikely. That would put you either downtown Manhattan, near the Vietnam Vet memorial or somewhere in Brooklyn, Cobble Hill probably. And while there is another heliport (whirring noise) near the Vietnam memorial, I don't see anything else that jumps out at me. So far the most likely candidates for the grey giant seem to be the UN (it really is a gigantic grey slab) the Statue of Liberty (because the woman very obviously has lady liberty's face. though that might just be a general "this is supposed to be NYC" clue) and maybe the Chrysler building (because of the gargoyle head on the bird).
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cask 7/New Orleans This cant all be a coincidence right?
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Jun 1, 2013 23:25
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allta posted:cask 7/New Orleans That head in the corner (I think) is the horse head that used to be one all the poles in the French Quarter. 
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Jun 1, 2013 23:33
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allta posted:cask 7/New Orleans A small detail from that painting:  Looks like PI + p
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Jun 1, 2013 23:37
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Nah, that's the artist's signature. It's on all of them.
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Jun 1, 2013 23:40
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What country was image 5 associated with, and did that have anything to do with the solution? I know that image 4 was associated with Greece, and the cask was buried in the Grecian cultural garden in Cleveland.
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Jun 1, 2013 23:42
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The Monkey Man posted:What country was image 5 associated with, and did that have anything to do with the solution? I know that image 4 was associated with Greece, and the cask was buried in the Grecian cultural garden in Cleveland. Ireland. I don't get the countries either but the list is on the front page of the wiki: (scroll to Summary) http://thesecret.pbworks.com/w/page/22148559/FrontPage Edit: okay I guess a lot of these countries were important sources of immigration for the cities (Milwaukee=Germany, New Orleans=France, St. Augustine=Spanish). Still not sure where they're getting them assigned from. Chicago's should've been Poland.
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Jun 1, 2013 23:50
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allta posted:cask 7/New Orleans The face of the clock is a series of concentric circles framed by a square. Jackson Square has the same layout. The flagpole interestingly lines up with the second hand on the clock, and might be the giant pole referred to in verse 7, but it seems too ordinary to be a landmark. Could the little guy on the clock be swimming? Or could he represent the statue of Andrew Jackson somehow? I'd bet the bells represent important landmarks for the exact location. Sesq fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Jun 2, 2013 |
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Jun 2, 2013 00:20
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Fistgrrl posted:Ireland. I don't get the countries either but the list is on the front page of the wiki: (scroll to Summary) As far as that goes, the fairy in the Charleston image looks vaguely African-American and has bracelets that vaguely resemble manacles. Slavery? There are a few places in Charleston still associated with slavery, such as the Old Slave Mart, etc.
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Jun 2, 2013 00:37
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Cask 7 Sorry if I missed it, but on this one, has anyone ventured a guess as to why the checker pattern on the background wall is totally straight on most of the left side of the picture, but majorly warped on the right side? It almost seems like a Magic Eye sort of thing.  Edit: Yah, the hand and mask totally are an outline of Louis Armstrong Park, and the blurring is probably the ponds around it. I'll try and get a lined up comparison pic. The Adama fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Jun 2, 2013 |
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Jun 2, 2013 00:47
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Sesq posted:Could the little guy on the clock be swimming? Or could he represent the statue of Andrew Jackson somehow? I'd bet the bells represent important landmarks for the exact location. Here's what he looks like at 400%.  I'm seeing diamond print leggings and a porkpie hat. Jockey? Mime?
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Jun 2, 2013 00:48
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Sesq posted:
It's the John McDonough statue in Lafayette Square. 
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Jun 2, 2013 00:49
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allta posted:It is possible that the Cask 12 is wrong and isn't new york. The wiki and pretty much everywhere else I've seen lists the coordinates as new york but not in an exactly believable way. Sorry if it's been pointed out already, but the 3 window panels that have those patterns, they look just like the images used when checking for color blindness. I'm on my phone but I think I can see a 3 in the first panel.
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Jun 2, 2013 00:49
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After showing the poem for the Sullivans Island location to one of my coworkers, he suggested reading the poem in reverse. It actually kinda makes sense that way. Any thoughts? Photos coming when I get off work.
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Jun 2, 2013 00:53
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Fistgrrl posted:Ireland. I don't get the countries either but the list is on the front page of the wiki: (scroll to Summary) Yeah, some others make sense (Roanoke was the first English colony in the New World, San Francisco has a big Chinese population) but others don't (Boston should be Ireland, not Italy; the Middle Eastern one should be Detroit)
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Jun 2, 2013 01:04
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Cask 7 Here we go.  And the street view of where the end of the mask handle terminates.  Running north, but first across  Giant pole Giant step To the place The casque is kept.  Edit: Tables Edit 2: More Pics The Adama fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Jun 2, 2013 |
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Jun 2, 2013 01:24
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Devyl posted:I know we have a few people thinking verse 7 is in San Francisco, but here's my reasoning behind why verse 7 HAS to be New Orleans: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=louis+armstrong+park&ie=UTF-8&ei=wpSqUbgFhObKAdK3gMgD&ved=0CAsQ_AUoAg Look here, there is a giant smokestack near the park. Giant pole?
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Jun 2, 2013 01:47
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The Walking Dad posted:https://maps.google.com/maps?q=louis+armstrong+park&ie=UTF-8&ei=wpSqUbgFhObKAdK3gMgD&ved=0CAsQ_AUoAg What is that place? Is that smokestack part of a crematorium? The building looks kind of like some kind of church. Would that relate to the fact that the hand looks like some kind of zombie hand?
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Jun 2, 2013 01:50
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San Francisco Wow, check this out: http://thesecret.pbworks.com/w/page/22148488/1_Park   From this, the folks at the Wiki decided the cask was at Golden Gate Park, probably in the Japanese Tea Garden. There's no explanation of how they reached this conclusion, though. Over in that forum, people noted that if you flip the Image 1, the Gh faces the right direction and the dragon map seems to better fit Golden Gate Park. This also has the advantage of putting the yin-yang symbol near the Asian Museum and Japanese Tea Garden, instead of across from them. 
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Jun 2, 2013 01:52
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plaguedoctor posted:What is that place? Is that smokestack part of a crematorium? The building looks kind of like some kind of church. Holy poo poo, there is a performing arts center right next to the smoke stack. The raised zombie arm is holing up a performing mask. There is also a cemetary 2 blocks away. What is the giant step? The Walking Dad fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Jun 2, 2013 |
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Jun 2, 2013 02:04
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The Adama posted:Cask 7 Was that step there in the early 80s though? Everything looks somewhat recently renovated.
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How tall you would have to be to step over the pole? It's probably too much of an idea, but can you see a clue about where the shadow of that pole would be at a set day and time of the year? Google tells me - Giant Steps is the fifth studio album by jazz musician John Coltrane as leader, released in 1960 on Atlantic Records, catalogue SD 1311. His first album for his new label Atlantic, it is the breakthrough album for Coltrane as a leader, and many of its tracks have become practice templates for jazz saxophonists.[1][2] In 2004, it was one of fifty recordings chosen that year by the Library of Congress to be added to the National Recording Registry. Jazz musicians continue to use the Giant Steps chord progression, which consists of a peculiar set of chords that often move in thirds, as a practice piece and as a gateway into modern jazz improvisation. Title Writer(s) Length 1. "Giant Steps" John Coltrane 4:43 <--- Giant Steps (composition) "Giant Steps" is a jazz composition by John Coltrane, first appearing as the first track on the album of the same name (1960). The composition contains a rapid and improvised progression of chord changes through three keys (see Coltrane changes) shifted by major thirds, creating an augmented triad. Comstar fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Jun 2, 2013 |
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Jun 2, 2013 02:24
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The Walking Dad posted:Was that step there in the early 80s though? Everything looks somewhat recently renovated. I think "giant step" means that the cask is buried within one large stride of that pole, treasure map style. And the building is apparently an old firehouse, so assuming that pole is related to it, then it would be protected by whatever historical significance keeps them from tearing down the building.
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Jun 2, 2013 02:24
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Comstar posted:It's probably too much of an idea, but can you see a clue about where the shadow of that pole would be at a set day and time of the year? Well, I would guess the clock in the painting tells us. So either due north or due east. Edit: To just throw stuff out to see what sticks, what if the hour hand on the clock is the pole, and the second hand represents the direction to step to dig for the cask, thus east. Edit 2: Running north, but first across In jewel's direction Is an object Of Twain's attention Giant pole Giant step To the place The casque is kept. "Best of all, Louis Armstrong reunited with fellow members of the Hot Five(firehouse reference?) on the Mark Twain Riverboat." http://voyagesextraordinaires.blogspot.com/2010/04/mark-twain-riverboat.html The Adama fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Jun 2, 2013 |
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Jun 2, 2013 02:27
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The minute hand represents the pole. the hour hand is pointing at a "V". There is a notch in the lake directly south west of the pole. Go (4 feet 33 inches??) in that direction from the pole...and dig. Conversely, someone who knows music read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coltrane_changes and explain what it's talking about because it's all over my head. Considering we are IN a park dedicated to a Jazz Musician, there's no way that's a coincidence! quote:"Giant Steps" Comstar fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Jun 2, 2013 |
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Jun 2, 2013 02:36
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allta posted:cask 7/New Orleans Preservation reminds me of: http://www.preservationhall.com/hall/virtual_tour/index.aspx https://maps.google.com/maps?q=preservation+hall+new+orleans&safe=off&ie=UTF-8&ei=-KKqUbTNDovO9gTbgoHoDw&sqi=2&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAg
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Jun 2, 2013 02:45
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plaguedoctor posted:Would that relate to the fact that the hand looks like some kind of zombie hand? I think the zombie style of the hand is to represent voodoo and its ability to bring people back from the dead. And where else is voodoo practiced more prevalent than New Orleans? The Adama posted:I think "giant step" means that the cask is buried within one large stride of that pole, treasure map style. I thought this too, but then I thought maybe it's in reference to the distance, riddle style. Who knows, yet... Maybe both are right. Like I said, I'll be taking a ride out there next week unless another Goon closer (stuntcock is in N.O. I think?) can go check it out.
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Jun 2, 2013 02:48
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Comstar posted:The minute hand represents the pole. the hour hand is pointing at a "V". There is a notch in the lake directly south west of the pole. Go (4 feet 33 inches??) in that direction from the pole...and dig. Could the giant step mean...in the water?
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Jun 2, 2013 02:48
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That hand looks more like a werewolf than a zombie to me. And I doubt that the length of the track "Giant Step" enters into it- different sources can list song lengths by slightly different lengths.
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Jun 2, 2013 02:50
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Boston Went out today to look for more clues, and I am feeling pretty good about this one being somewhere around the corner of Commonwealth and Clarendon.  If we read the riddle like this: allta posted:Verse 3 Walk north 5 blocks from the Boston Public Library in Copley Square ("Thucydides" and "Xenophon" as a previous poster pointed out) Stop at the green lamppost ("A green tower of lights") Not sure about "coliseum" but here I turned east and walked until I reached the block parallel to the John Hancock tower ("metal walls" maybe), which is the intersection of Commonwealth and Clarendon. Right about here there are two adjacent apartment buildings, addresses 118 and 120 ("Eighteenth day/Twelfth hour", ignore the extra digits) Stand with your back to the apartment buildings, facing north, and there is a red lamppost right in front of you ("Face the water/Your back to the stairs/Feel at home/.../Lit by lamplight") Not sure about the "In truth, be free" line, but maybe has something to do with the statue in the same area. It claims the honored person was an "honest man". The "All the letters" line also throws me off. I was hoping to see a mailbox in the area, but there isn't one. Maybe there was in 1982 though? The illustration also seems to hint at this area. See how all the large orbs are partially cut off, and all the small orbs are not? That looks pretty similar to the window design of the First Baptist Church, which is right next to apartments 118/120. The church might also be the castle-looking building on the box she's holding. Oh and my wife says the three windows at the top (big circle, two rectangles) resemble the overall shape of the illustration (woman + window).  Assuming this general area is correct, we still need to figure out exactly where to dig. I'm gonna have to read more about the casks that were already found to see how the finders were able to pinpoint a location. I imagine there are some important clues in the illustration that I'm not seeing.
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Comstar posted:The minute hand represents the pole. the hour hand is pointing at a "V". There is a notch in the lake directly south west of the pole. Go (4 feet 33 inches??) in that direction from the pole...and dig. Hundred percent agreed. Not sure what the exact answer is, but I hope we find out so we know what this guy thought was "too easy, that they would be solved within a month".
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Jun 2, 2013 02:58
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Holy poo poo, that all matches up amazingly. Great observation about the partially cut off orbs.
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Jun 2, 2013 03:04
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I mean some of this is just so ridiculously convoluted. How would anyone ever think it would be solved "within a month?" Especially back in the super early 80s without any of the sort of mind-sourcing available via the internet today?
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BonoMan posted:I mean some of this is just so ridiculously convoluted. How would anyone ever think it would be solved "within a month?" Especially back in the super early 80s without any of the sort of mind-sourcing available via the internet today? It's what super nerds did before the internet. *edit* To avoid a double post, I have another reason why I think the picture has to be tied to New Orleans. If you look in the clock, it has the moon in the stars above the stone. New Orleans, aka 'The Crescent City', has water meter covers that look like this:  Although it's probably just a coincidence. Devyl fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Jun 2, 2013 |
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Jun 2, 2013 03:10
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Cask 7 Here's the part of the New Orleans picture that I think might represent city blocks:  Also, is there any significance to the first and twelfth pictures being much narrower, with rounded tops? The Monkey Man fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Jun 2, 2013 |
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Jun 2, 2013 03:12
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Puzzle designers always need to get their works tested in advance; things you think are obvious are difficult for other people and vice versa. I helped playtest a Web puzzle game for a friend. Some of the stuff I was stumped by he expected to be a breeze.
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The Monkey Man posted:Here's the part of the New Orleans picture that I think might represent city blocks: It doesn't mean that they don't represent something else, but the warped areas on the background actually line up almost exactly with the bodies of water in Louis Armstrong park once you orient the main island with the hand.   On Cask 11 "Face the water(The Baptist Church?) Your back to the stairs(Statue in the park across the street?)  Feel at home(Minister's living quarters entrance? Total guess on that one.)  All the letters Are here to see Eighteenth day Twelfth hour Lit by lamplight(Lamp above the smaller entrance, as well as one in between the church and the stairs) In truth, be free." Also, someone let me know if I'm sperging out too hard and making GBS threads up the thread. I'm just really diggin' this.
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^^^no your fine, any idea is worth posting sense were still trying to find that last piece we need! Just a thought. Also what if the time on the clock in the picture is supposed to indicate the time your supposed to be there to see something? IE church bells ringing, or where the top of the shadow for that pole is reaching? allta fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Jun 2, 2013 |
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Lemon Tiger wants someone to search here:
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allta posted:
The clocks seem to usually correspond with the gemstone that the picture is for. In this case, it's turquoise, which is the birth stone for the month of December (hence why it's pointing at 12:00).
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