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Sydney Bottocks posted:TNA did absolutely nothing to capitalize on it or use it in any meaningful way. Counterpoint, The POUNCE! looks like poo poo when Monty Brown did in a four sided ring.
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jscolon2.0 posted:Counterpoint, The POUNCE! looks like poo poo when Monty Brown did in a four sided ring. I'd say that's more a Monty Brown thing than a TNA thing though. TNA wouldn't be clever enough to say "this move would look really cool, but only if you did it in a six-sided ring  "
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I agree that the X-Division was the only part of TNA that benefited from the six-sided ring but on the other hand that was enough to differentiate them enough from WWE that watching TNA was actually fun. I have a lot of good wrestling watching memories from TNA circa 2005-06 just from the X-Division during that period.
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has there ever been a three sided ring?
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I don't know but Kevin Nash wrestled a match in a two sided ring. He said it so its true.
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jscolon2.0 posted:Counterpoint, The POUNCE! looks like poo poo when Monty Brown did in a four sided ring. Objection: 
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Versus the Von Erichs and he had all of them in the Clawhold.
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Branching off from an earlier question, when did does the bizarre Fabulous Ones promos originally air, what promotion, and has it ever emerged who came up with the idea? I do hope they wiped down the exercise equipment. 
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gfanikf posted:I would love to see a reoccurrence or some evolution of the concept for a show on the WWE network...if it ever launches. I hope that it comes back with different hosts every season so that there can be elitist internet flame wars about who the best hosts were
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gfanikf posted:Branching off from an earlier question, when did does the bizarre Fabulous Ones promos originally air, what promotion, and has it ever emerged who came up with the idea? It was a Memphis thing if memory serves, and Jerry Jarrett (who used to have a big hand in booking) almost assuredly came up with as he was the guy who popularized teams known as "Blowjobs", pretty boy face teams that would do well with the ladies. Rock N Roll Express, the Fabulous Ones, etc Here's a explanation of the thing from a shoot tape review with the Rock n Roll Express The Rock n Roll Express posted:Mid-South and Bill Watts- Mid-South was on a serious downswing and, when Lawler and Jarrett went down to examine the territory, they told Watts they needed young, good-looking babyfaces. (Specifically, they asked him “Where are the blowjobs?”, which Watts thought meant REAL blowjobs and not young, good-looking wrestlers who bring in the teeny-bopper girls and, indirectly, the young guys.) Watts watched a few cards while he was in Memphis and had looked at the Fabulous Ones before seeing the Rock and Rolls take on Porkchop Cash and Troy Graham for 30 minutes. After the match was done, he decided that the Rock and Rolls were going to be his new babyface tag team because of Morton’s incredible selling. “He totally flipped the gently caress out!” Watts told Jarrett that the Rock and Rolls were much better than the Fabs due to Morton’s selling and the way Gibson worked the crowd before the hot tag and that it Jarrett wasn’t going to push them, he’d take them. Jarrett then decided to lend them to Watts for six months. At the end of six months, Watts didn’t want to let them go and they didn’t want to go back, so they went back to Memphis and gave notice that they weren’t staying long because they wanted to be in Mid-South. Jarrett wasn’t happy because the Fabulous Ones had left Memphis by that time.
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gfanikf posted:Branching off from an earlier question, when did does the bizarre Fabulous Ones promos originally air, what promotion, and has it ever emerged who came up with the idea? edit: gently caress it, and here's Jerry Lawler's Wimpbusters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjgwAfi9eIo Cromulent fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Jun 3, 2013 |
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STAC Goat posted:I don't know but Kevin Nash wrestled a match in a two sided ring. He said it so its true.
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Thanks. You know for some reason I kept expecting it to be from JCP, but somehow Memphis....just makes more sense. I can't say why, but it just does. The videos make (somewhat)more sense in the context of being "Blowjob" attractions. I mean otherwise, it seems like it was just some very bizarre rib. That Wimpbusters one is hilarious too and far more pleasant to hear than Hawk and Animal. I do want to try and make a gif out of Jimmy Hart floating around via the green screen on the door...that or Macho looked high as poo poo. Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Jun 3, 2013 |
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spongeh posted:
it was used once, maybe twice. by your logic wwe's 20x20 four sided ring is dumb because of the tiny wrestling ring they used at penn station that one time.
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STAC Goat posted:I remember Team 3D feuding with the Machine Guns and the entire X Division so things would routinely get crazy. I don't remember Rodz though. Sure you're not thinking of Johnny Devine, who turned on the division and joined with the Dudleyz? nah dude it was definitely johnny rodz. off the top of my head the rock n rave infection, homicide & hernandez and the latino nation ran out as well as some other peeps.
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cool-haired luke posted:it was used once, maybe twice. by your logic wwe's 20x20 four sided ring is dumb because of the tiny wrestling ring they used at penn station that one time. And you know it was used once, maybe twice how? More importantly, what kind of company wastes money on a tiny version of your ring? Rings aren't spare tires.
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cool-haired luke posted:nah dude it was definitely johnny rodz. off the top of my head the rock n rave infection, homicide & hernandez and the latino nation ran out as well as some other peeps. Oh, you totally confused me with the MCMG thing. It was a LAX thing. Now that you mention it I remember that whole Latino Nation/Team 3D's "Family" thing. Fun times. I think a Sopranos star ran in that match too.
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Where did these .gif's come from? After Raw thing, maybe? 
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Wario Kart 64 posted:Where did these .gif's come from? After Raw thing, maybe? Probably, during that era they did lots of stuff after the broadcast stopped to send the crowd home happy. A great example of this is the Jericho/Austin beer dropping sequence you can see here.
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Wario Kart 64 posted:Where did these .gif's come from? After Raw thing, maybe? I see the laser pointer guy that ALWAYS pointed the thing at Undertaker during the Attitude Era (and probably beyond) wasn't in it for just the public exposure. This must have come from a WWE media release because this is definitely Taker/Foley/Austin circa 1999 but with a WWE logo in the corner and much better quality than any camera from the late 90s could have gotten. Any clues as to which release?
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The gifs seem new to everyone so maybe e: Googled and found screencaps posted in November 2012. The Attitude Era DVD came out around then. UltimoDragonQuest fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Jun 3, 2013 |
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Memento1979 posted:Probably, during that era they did lots of stuff after the broadcast stopped to send the crowd home happy. A great example of this is the Jericho/Austin beer dropping sequence you can see here. God, I love this entire sequence, just for how much you can tell both guys are just totally on the edge of corpsing through the whole thing.
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Speaking of titles changing hands on a DQ, it reminded me of the time I decided to give TNA a chance and was rewarded with Abyss beating Sting for the NWA title. Sting whupped Abyss' rear end, tied him up, beat him like a pinata. Then Sting hits the ref and throws Abyss off the stage, and whoops now Abyss is your world champ! Edit: I should preface this with that I don't think they said titles could change hands on a DQ before the match, and I think they just ignored it after that too
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TNA introduced the "belts change hands on an intentional DQ or countout" in like their 4th weekly PPV, then proceeded in the weeks that followed to have title matches end on DQ's with all sorts of explinations as to why the champ hadn't intentionally got themself DQ'd and so it didn't count. It took like 5 years before the stip actually had a payoff and by that point most people had forgotten.
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The best Memphis video ever is the one for The New Generation that is fairly infamous, IIRC. I know a clip of it got played on The Daily Show within the past couple of years. One of those dudes is now the chief of police in my hometown, but I still don't think people have let him live this down.
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nasboat posted:The best Memphis video ever is the one for The New Generation that is fairly infamous, IIRC. I know a clip of it got played on The Daily Show within the past couple of years. I'm really thinking we need some sort of :memphis: possibly featuring The Fabulous Ones or the Jimmy Hart Wimpbuster logo.
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Botchamania was beloved by people inside WWE. I know I saw people watching it back in 2010.
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Weirdly, the NWA title changing hands on a DQ was Dave Meltzer's idea. Jarrett called him up to ask him some things he could do to make NWA:TNA different, and that was one of them. They used it, but not really.
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They used it, forgot about it, and then on a house show I believe Christian beat Kurt Angle by DQ and then they were like "oh that rule doesn't exist anymore".
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LividLiquid posted:Weirdly, the NWA title changing hands on a DQ was Dave Meltzer's idea. Jarrett called him up to ask him some things he could do to make NWA:TNA different, and that was one of them. They used it, but not really. Huh, I had no idea about that one. I really hope Meltzer has a book all ready to be published, of all his behind the scenes wheelings and dealings. I want to hear his story.
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triplexpac posted:I really hope Meltzer has a book all ready to be published, of all his behind the scenes wheelings and dealings. I want to hear his story.
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Is Vader's son Jesse White any good?
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Jason Sensation had quite a few rape accusations. Here's an interview from 2007.Jason Sensation posted:Jason goes on discussing his first few skits on RAW, but says that the story between him and Owen was dropped after he got stopped at the border. He didn't have a green card, and he had been crossing illegally all that time. The week after he got beat up by Owen, he wasn't able to make it to the next RAW due to being stopped at the border. Once WWE realized that they couldn't get him, they rushed a contract to him. He said that he signed a 3 yr deal, and spent most of it at home collecting a check. He noted that he sent several script ideas to Russo and it went to no reply. During the last 6 months of his contract he was sent to Memphis, TN to train as a heel manager for a future main roster spot. He said Memphis was run wrong and all the wrong guys were in charge. He said that the main trainer was Terry Golden and said "He was one of the dirtiest guys in the business". He said they went through a lot of wrestlers down there.
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Bigass Moth posted:Is Vader's son Jesse White any good?
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budreck posted:Jason Sensation had quite a few rape accusations. Here's an interview from 2007. What confuses is, when would Jason Sensation and Kevin Thorn even have been in the company together? Wasn't Jason gone by the end part of the Attitude Era? Thorn was basically just a WWECW guy, right?
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Bigass Moth posted:Is Vader's son Jesse White any good? he's very green but he has potential.
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Thauros posted:What confuses is, when would Jason Sensation and Kevin Thorn even have been in the company together? Wasn't Jason gone by the end part of the Attitude Era? Thorn was basically just a WWECW guy, right? Towards the end of Attitude, Jason started training to wrestle under Ron Hutchison (trainer of Edge, Christian, Trish Status). Jason was eventually signed to a development deal and was in Memphis the same time as Thorn. budreck fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Jun 4, 2013 |
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Thauros posted:What confuses is, when would Jason Sensation and Kevin Thorn even have been in the company together? Wasn't Jason gone by the end part of the Attitude Era? Thorn was basically just a WWECW guy, right? Thorn wrestled in OVW as Seven, and was around for years.
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who is arda ocal
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John Cena posted:who is arda ocal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arda_Ocal
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