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I'd have to recommend against Sony Vaio: their laptops are priced similarly to Apple product, but quality wise are far behind Apple standard.
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sports posted:I'd have to recommend against Sony Vaio: their laptops are priced similarly to Apple product, but quality wise are far behind Apple standard. It's the thing where if it's Sony, people must think it's high end. Brand recognition and what not; that's what they're running at. Shame they can't back it up.
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 01:15 |
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If you must do Sony, you might like to consider a Vaio Fit. Unfortunately, driver support for Sony is nonexistent and you'd probably end up stuck with Linux and universal drivers in a few years.
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 01:19 |
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sports posted:I'd have to recommend against Sony Vaio: their laptops are priced similarly to Apple product, but quality wise are far behind Apple standard. What are you talking about? Their prices are much lower than Apple's. Quality-wise they are ahead or behind in different respects.
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 01:33 |
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shrughes posted:What are you talking about? Their prices are much lower than Apple's. They have laptops that attempt to compete with Apple, with base prices around ~$50 below Apple. Most people should know that an Apple refurb is 15% off.
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 01:34 |
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sports posted:They have laptops that attempt to compete with Apple, with base prices around ~$50 below Apple. Most people should know that an Apple refurb is 15% off. The Vaio S outcompetes the non-retina MBPs pretty well at much lower prices. And the 13" Vaio S kind of competes with the 13" MBA (at a lower price), too. I have no idea how you come up with opinions like this but you should probably try considering reality.
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 01:36 |
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Regarding Sony, I have a ~three year old Sony Vaio Z which I got very cheaply (apparently it went for $2,000+), and it's a mess. Issues with heat (had to remount the heatsink and buy some pads from Sony for $40 to mount the GPU properly), the obvious issues with drivers, and it is falling apart with a big crack on the underside of the case. One of the hinges is broken, the power cable falls out half of the time, and it's generally in bad shape despite treating it well overall. It's a "nice" machine when it works, but before I fixed the heat issues I had to lock it at half its rated speed and even then it'd overheat and shutdown. If the build quality were better and it didn't have the issues it has with driver support, it'd be a lot better of a machine, but I don't plan on buying another Sony machine after this one. Meltycat fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Jun 6, 2013 |
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I have an X220 which is a dream of a laptop. It does have heating issues, though. That's the only issue, really, aside from the fact that it's a bit fiddly with OSX installs.
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 01:51 |
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Have there ever been durability issues with the hinges on convertible laptops? Do the hinges vary significantly from brand to brand? Some of them look really flimsy; even the solid looking ones still strike me as a disaster waiting to happen. If there were serious issues I'm sure they wouldn't be selling them, but I just can't shake the fear of the hinge breaking somehow.
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 04:54 |
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Shofixti posted:Have there ever been durability issues with the hinges on convertible laptops? Do the hinges vary significantly from brand to brand? Some of them look really flimsy; even the solid looking ones still strike me as a disaster waiting to happen. If there were serious issues I'm sure they wouldn't be selling them, but I just can't shake the fear of the hinge breaking somehow. All laptop hinges are pretty flimsy after a while- but breaking a hinge is quite hard. I'd recommend Lenovo's Thinkpad line and Apple if we were going for a review about hinges.
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 05:24 |
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syntaxfunction posted:So I'm looking for an ultrabook since my netbook(s) decided to die. I bought them for the weight mainly. I don't game much any more but being able to run, say, Civ 5 would be good. Even though I'm looking at ultrabooks price is still important to me. And time. I need it basically within a month or so. From what I'm reading the main ones I like the look of (The new Acer S7 and ASUS Zenbook Infinity) aren't being released any time soon. This is from way back but I got an Asus Zenbook Prime UX31A non-touch because it's so light, very durable, has a great screen with great viewing angles, great battery life, doesn't get hot, and it runs everything I need it to run very very very well. I put a 128gb SSD in it too because, as a student, I'm gonna throw all my docs and poo poo onto cloud storage so I don't need much storage. Seriously, the case and the keyboard, and the trackpad are all very very well done and it is a Very Very Great Laptop as long as you don't do video games. Note: I reinstalled windows on it because it comes with a 20gb recovery partition on a loving 128gb SSD, you might want to do the same if you get a lil' baby SSD on it. When I first unboxed it, I had 70gb of usable space. Under normal usage (I wrote a big ol' essay on Word with like 70% screen brightness on the whole time) I got 4.5 hours until it hit 10%. Honestly, the only reasons I can find to wait for Haswell is if you intend to play video games on it or something which is dumb to do on an ultrabook. I haven't run a single video game on it, so I don't know how that will work. Also that loving Zenbook Infinity has gorilla glass on the back which is just gonna make it look awful after lugging it around all day and I've broken the poo poo out of the backs of iphones from dropping it, a bigger piece of gorilla glass attached to a 3 pound computer doesn't seem that appealing. jokes fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Jun 6, 2013 |
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Shofixti posted:Have there ever been durability issues with the hinges on convertible laptops? Do the hinges vary significantly from brand to brand? Some of them look really flimsy; even the solid looking ones still strike me as a disaster waiting to happen. If there were serious issues I'm sure they wouldn't be selling them, but I just can't shake the fear of the hinge breaking somehow. They've been around for a long time, so you should only run into trouble if you choose one made by a company that makes insane and capricious design choices, like Sony, which, upon deciding to make a convertible tablet, decided to design a completely brand new hinge mechanism with externally exposed springs. Edit: In other news, the Lenovo Y410p comes with a 1600x900 screen option.
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 10:42 |
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Design choices for laptops and touchscreen convertibles make no sense to me. What is this: what the gently caress is this!?!?!
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:Some TVs are better than others. The problem isn't the size of the text. That is the spergiest thing that I've read all year. My previous TV didn't have this feature, and it really was not a big deal despite being a Westinghouse piece of poo poo. Reading a paragraph didn't make me want to "gouge my eyes out" because you're not really losing significant details and the "blurriness" mentioned in the thread is actually pretty negligible Here's one of their examples: Yes, if you put your face inches from the screen then you can just barely notice a tiny bit of blurring, maybe. Or not really blurring, really, just a barely perceptible color change. Well, you kind of have to squint and they have to tell you what to look for, but yeah, image degradation ahoy if you don't have a very high-quality TV for your PC, I guess QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Jun 6, 2013 |
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TV's are insanely bright and reading a lot of text will burn your eyes out of your skull. They are not the ideal monitor for many reasons. I know people who have a 32" or 37" ON THEIR DESK and use it regular.
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 13:23 |
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What does everyone think of Lenovos new y510p. I'm looking to get rid of my desktop cause I'm losing my office to a nursery. I do casual gaming (rift/wow/D3/lol). Seems pretty well priced and includes the new haswell tech. I would probably want the sli model but it looks like the card it comes with is a 720m? Maybe that's a typo?
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 14:12 |
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A friend is looking to buy a dad's day gift of a laptop in the 6-700 dollar range. He says it'll be used for photoshop, but there's no real chance of getting a decent screen at that price is there?
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 14:20 |
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I'm going a Dell special event on campus today, most likely to announce their new Haswell lineup.
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 14:38 |
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Has anyone with a T430s tried cleaning dust out of their fan? I can't work out how to get to it properly which is annoying since everything else is easy to access. Other than that would strongly recommend the T4**s line to anyone. Would be almost perfect if the bezel was a bit smaller.
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 15:13 |
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pointsofdata posted:Other than that would strongly recommend the T4**s line to anyone. Would be almost perfect if the bezel was a bit smaller. It might be smaller next generation. If the T431s and X230s are anything to base this opinion by. They both have less bezel.
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BrokenLinux posted:What does everyone think of Lenovos new y510p. I'm looking to get rid of my desktop cause I'm losing my office to a nursery. I do casual gaming (rift/wow/D3/lol). Seems pretty well priced and includes the new haswell tech. Definitely a typo. Note that there are still reports of bad trackpads, and also reports of weird screen colors, on recently shipped Y500 models. Also note that the Y410p now has a 1600x900 option, which makes it pretty worthwhile.
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shrughes posted:It might be smaller next generation. If the T431s and X230s are anything to base this opinion by. They both have less bezel. Of course they way they got less bezel is by switching to sunken hinges and sacrificing rigidity, not making screens taller.
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 16:15 |
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pointsofdata posted:Has anyone with a T430s tried cleaning dust out of their fan? I can't work out how to get to it properly which is annoying since everything else is easy to access. Do you have an extremely frustrating whine from the 5V regulator on yours? I'm on my second T420 and it's really pissing me off at this point. Also great thread title Hadlock.
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 16:21 |
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WHAT A GOOD DOG posted:Design choices for laptops and touchscreen convertibles make no sense to me. What is this: what the gently caress is this!?!?! They want you to start using touch input by never, ever using the trackpad. What the hell do you rest your palms on? The keyboard? What the hell good can come of this?
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 17:02 |
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Protocol7 posted:They want you to start using touch input by never, ever using the trackpad. What the hell do you rest your palms on? The keyboard? What the hell good can come of this? In the review I read, the acer rep basically said "err, umm, most people use external mice."
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 17:07 |
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mewse posted:In the review I read, the acer rep basically said "err, umm, most people use external mice." You'd certainly be forced to.
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Protocol7 posted:They want you to start using touch input by never, ever using the trackpad. What the hell do you rest your palms on? The keyboard? What the hell good can come of this? Protocol7 posted:You'd certainly be forced to. This is what happens when you go full retard. Never go full retard.
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 17:13 |
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Acer just doesn't want people to notice how bad their trackpads are.
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 18:42 |
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movax posted:Do you have an extremely frustrating whine from the 5V regulator on yours? I'm on my second T420 and it's really pissing me off at this point. Not at all, it's incredibly quiet. It worked well but I've been using it in dusty environments quite a lot and it now gets pretty warm quite quickly when playing media (somehow itunes takes it to like 80 degrees C after a bit) etc.
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 19:48 |
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Bob Morales posted:TV's are insanely bright and reading a lot of text will burn your eyes out of your skull. They are not the ideal monitor for many reasons. I know people who have a 32" or 37" ON THEIR DESK and use it regular. Putting a huge TV on your desk and treating it like a normal monitor is pretty dumb, yes. However, TVs at a normal couch distance are not particularly "too bright" (alternatively, if you have one that is too bright then you can just adjust the settings until it looks good) and won't "burn your eyes out of your skull" if you're in a well-lit room like a normal person QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Jun 6, 2013 |
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QuarkJets posted:Putting a huge TV on your desk and treating it like a normal monitor is pretty dumb, yes. However, TVs at a normal couch distance are not particularly "too bright" (alternatively, if you have one that is too bright then you can just adjust the settings until it looks good) and won't "burn your eyes out of your skull" if you're in a well-lit room like a normal person I can attest to text being absolutely terrible on a TV. It wasn't because that the TV is too bright or that I was sitting too close to it. It's just that TVs are that bad at displaying text. The edges of each letter were horrible to look at. That said, my roommate had absolutely no problems with it. I don't get it, but there are people, like yourself, who don't notice, or don't care about the way text looks on them.
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# ? Jun 6, 2013 21:05 |
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I used my TV for a week or so when my monitor died. Reading text on it was terrible and I don't recommend it to anyone.
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# ? Jun 7, 2013 00:35 |
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With laptops, aren't you supposed to use the battery until it goes all the way down to 10% then fully charge it to keep the battery healthy?
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# ? Jun 7, 2013 00:48 |
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WHAT A GOOD DOG posted:With laptops, aren't you supposed to use the battery until it goes all the way down to 10% then fully charge it to keep the battery healthy? I'm pretty sure we don't have to do that anymore with modern Li-ion batteries. I thought that the worst thing you could do was never ever use the battery, keep it plugged in 24/7 with the battery in.
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# ? Jun 7, 2013 00:49 |
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Okay cool, and how long do modern Li-ion batteries last? Some people say 2-4 years others say 1000 charges, or something?
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# ? Jun 7, 2013 00:52 |
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Man that new zenbook is one sexy machine
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# ? Jun 7, 2013 00:52 |
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WHAT A GOOD DOG posted:Okay cool, and how long do modern Li-ion batteries last? Some people say 2-4 years others say 1000 charges, or something? I think the usual standard is 1000-2000 charge/drain cycles
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V for Vegas posted:Man that new zenbook is one sexy machine quote:Internally, the Zenbook Infinity is also pretty cool. Unlike all other Haswell Ultrabooks we've seen, the ZBI is home to a 28W Haswell ULT: the Core i7-4558U. The dual-core part features Intel's Iris 5100 graphics (GT3 without Crystalwell) as well as a higher base CPU clock frequency. The result should be a very interesting combination of power efficiency and GPU performance on tap. ASUS seems to always pick the right parts to integrate into its mobile devices, and the i7-4558U is definitely an interesting one. Oh yeah! That is pretty neat. I can't wait to see how it performs.
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V for Vegas posted:Man that new zenbook is one sexy machine The top of that looks so pretty with the blue finish and the Gorilla Glass.
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I won't be in the market for one for a number of months, but what's the best bet for a low-power, high-battery typing device at absolute bargain value? So, a laptop or a bluetooth-keyboard tablet that will see many thousands of words typed onto it (and not used for anything else, barely even email) for bare minimum price. Is the Samsung chromebook the best bet still, or a Nexus 7 with a full-sized bluetooth keyboard..?
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