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I don't believe Coldhands' face has ever been described, just that it has been covered by a scarf up to his eyes, which aren't blue like a wight.
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One of the children of the forest, the one that has an actual name, says that Coldhands is very old. Benjen would only have been dead for a short period at this point.
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Jun 5, 2013 20:12
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From this: http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/06/02/robb-stark-wedding/2/quote:It was, Michelle and I, our last scene on Game of Thrones. Sooo, does this mean no Lady Stoneheart? Different actress? Trolling book viewers?
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Jun 5, 2013 20:15
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Michelle has hinted she's coming back. The RW would be Robb and Cat's final scene together so he's not lying, but he's trying to keep the twist safe too so he's using clever language.
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Jun 5, 2013 20:17
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Strife posted:One of the children of the forest, the one that has an actual name, says that Coldhands is very old. Benjen would only have been dead for a short period at this point. Ah, in that case I'm putting money on some other Stark but that's the direction I'm going. 
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Jun 5, 2013 20:29
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Aurain posted:The RW would be Robb and Cat's final scene together so he's not lying, but he's trying to keep the twist safe too so he's using clever language. It would not be the first time he had done so either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TidxJfZXOko&t=24s
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Jun 5, 2013 20:31
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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I bet it's Bran the builder, who will soon become Bran the Expositioner as he mansplains what's really up with the wall and what the children of the forest have been up to lately.
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PittTheElder posted:It would not be the first time he had done so either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TidxJfZXOko&t=24s That is some wonderfully subtle trolling, he's working it in like Derren Brown there.
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Considering that the Three Eyed Crow is probably Brynden Rivers, the Targaryen bastard who had the ancestral Valyrian sword of the Targaryens, "Dark Sister", what do you reckon the odds are of Coldhands using that as his weapon of choice? Do we ever get a description of the weapons Coldhands uses? I don't know how much it changes, but a wight/other/whatever Coldhands qualifies as using Valyrian steel is a neat concept to me.
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Jun 5, 2013 20:49
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On the attractiveness of actors: I'm glad they didn't stick to rigid book descriptions, because that gave us Nikolaj Coster Waldau, Peter Dinklage, and Iain "That Voice"  Glenn. On lack of face clawing: Too melodramatic. Michelle Fairley absolutely killed it in that scene and she better get an Emmy. Especially because for the next two seasons she'll be playing an unspeaking zombie and just thinking "haha she got an Emmy for this" as she gurgles and points at things will be great. On dream casting: A cameo by Bumpercar Bindlesnatch (Khaaaaaaaaan) as my beloved Darkstar-kun~. Brendan Gleeson as Jon Con. And the old gypsy lady from Drag Me To Hell for that one character in Mereen. Xaxa Zoza Zixar or whatever. The harpie.
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Jun 5, 2013 20:57
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I saw someone mention Viggo Mortensen for Howland Reed when he finally shows up. I'd die happy if it happened.
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Jun 5, 2013 21:01
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Aurain posted:I saw someone mention Viggo Mortensen for Howland Reed when he finally shows up. I seem to recall the showrunners saying Howland will never show up. gently caress, he'll probably never show up in the books, either.
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Jun 5, 2013 21:23
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gently caress Dungeons and Dragons. They make the worst decisions. I want them to add him and Strong Belwas and have them meet up somehow and be cool with each other. You're right though, he's not showing up ever. GURM is also the worst.
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Jun 5, 2013 21:27
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I can't recall...but did Littlefinger ever give any sort of reaction to the RW? All I remember is him loving off to Lisa Arryn's place.
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Jun 5, 2013 21:28
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Aurain posted:gently caress Dungeons and Dragons. They make the worst decisions. There should just be a random webisode with all the forgotten fan-favourite characters having drinks over a table at the Inn at the Crossroads. Then some idiot original character, like Ros, wanders in and they all throw hostile stares in deadly silence.
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Jun 5, 2013 21:33
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Fog Tripper posted:How the show made the leap from disturbing to look at, to dashingly handsome albeit short, eludes me. Because they thought "little person who can act" was a better choice than either "casting slavishly to physical descriptions" or "spending lots of money putting a main character under a mountain of makeup that will interfere with the acting we hired him for"
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Jun 5, 2013 21:37
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He was also GURM's first choice, iirc.
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Jun 5, 2013 21:57
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Fog Tripper posted:How the show made the leap from disturbing to look at, to dashingly handsome albeit short, eludes me. I really don't get the problem, I mean, you can always view it in the context of Westeros not being particularly socially enlightened where simply because Tyrion is a dwarf he will always be viewed as horrendously grotesque? I mean, we're talking about a non-modern (non-real) world where it's totally possible that the thought of a devilishly handsome dwarf will never actually enter someone's mind?
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Jun 5, 2013 22:44
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Exactly. "OMG the disfigured imp" could very well still be the devilishly handsome Dinklage by old standards. Kinda like how the old carnival sideshow World's Fattest Man is a svelte and trim model compared to your average Texan.
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Jun 5, 2013 22:54
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Exactly. "OMG the disfigured imp" could very well still be the devilishly handsome Dinklage by old standards. And he still hosed plenty of prostitutes and got along in noble society mostly fine. If he was really Sarah Jessica Parker ugly and people couldn't deal with it Tywin would've had a reason to toss him in a dungeon or something.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I can't recall...but did Littlefinger ever give any sort of reaction to the RW? All I remember is him loving off to Lisa Arryn's place. He wasn't present in any POV at the time, so what if any reaction he had is unknown. Lysa Arryn is supposed to be in this season, though, so we may get a show-only version. I'm sure that the next episode will be heavy with Red Wedding reactions around the realm.
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Exactly. "OMG the disfigured imp" could very well still be the devilishly handsome Dinklage by old standards. Yup, this reminds me of the story Oberyn tells Tyrion about his disappointment at baby Tyrion not being a monster. I can't wait for that scene, or pretty much any with Oberyn. Extremely curious to see who they cast.
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Jun 5, 2013 23:19
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Strife posted:One of the children of the forest, the one that has an actual name, says that Coldhands is very old. Benjen would only have been dead for a short period at this point. Nope, Leaf says "They killed him long ago", that's all she says, in response to Bran being concerned about the wights killing Coldhands.
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:And the old gypsy lady from Drag Me To Hell for that one character in Mereen. Xaxa Zoza Zixar or whatever. The harpie. Isn't that 'The Green Grace?' The one with the hosed up, rotten face who is obviously a sorceress who keeps giving Dany bad advice and probably enchanting her as well. V fuckin lol stawk Archer fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Jun 6, 2013 |
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Dany is lucky no one realizes you could just hire someone stealthy with a spooky mask to sneak into her room and whisper something like "Your path requires you to find a magic chest in the desert with a big R on it" and she'd probably starve her army looking for it.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Nope, Leaf says "They killed him long ago", that's all she says, in response to Bran being concerned about the wights killing Coldhands. You're right, I just reread the chapter and that's all she says. But I wouldn't really say "long ago" for someone that's only been dead for two years at most, especially if I were a being that had been alive for hundreds of years.
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Holy Calamity! posted:Yup, this reminds me of the story Oberyn tells Tyrion about his disappointment at baby Tyrion not being a monster. I can't wait for that scene, or pretty much any with Oberyn. Extremely curious to see who they cast. Exactly. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Martin mentally has Dinklage in mind when writing Tyrion at this point, considering he was his first choice for an actor.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Nope, Leaf says "They killed him long ago", that's all she says, in response to Bran being concerned about the wights killing Coldhands. Benjen warged into a wight, maybe? Just throwing poo poo against the wall and seeing if anything GRRMs.
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Strife posted:One of the children of the forest, the one that has an actual name, says that Coldhands is very old. Benjen would only have been dead for a short period at this point. Unless he is "old" like Dread Pirate Roberts was "old". Maybe the Old Coldhands passed the mantle on? (No, that is a stupid theory... but I do love me some Princess Bride)
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The Rat posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1Z0Tv40RSs That's not real, right? It's got to be ACTING?! Or, not. Wow. She really identifies with the North! There's gonna be some clap-back over this, praise Jesus.
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I'm doing my first re-read of the series, and my first non-audiobook reading. Came across an early question. How is Robert going to make Jamie Warden of the East if Jamie is in the Kingsguard? Is he going to kick him out? That seemed like a really shameful thing when they did it Barristan Also I don't blame Ned for keeping Catelyn in the dark about Jon. Robert was crazy about killing Targ babies.
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As much as I'd love for Benjen to be Coldhands, he's probably not. We'll never see him again just like the other weird stuff from early in GoT (Tyrion's acrobatics) because GURM forgot
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Jun 6, 2013 04:19
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I'm not expecting Benjen to ever show up again unless as a wight.
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If Coldhands isn't literally benjen then Coldhands is just riding his dumb corpsicle around because his old body rotted away or he's tired of living in a tree hell. There's no way they're not one or the other.
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:Exactly. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Martin mentally has Dinklage in mind when writing Tyrion at this point, considering he was his first choice for an actor. OK I get it, many of you are gay for Dink. PS: He is not writing Tyrion at this point. Have you not been paying attention?
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On my first read-through, I was sure that Coldhands was Benjen, and I really want him to be Benjen, but since my second read-through, I've changed my mind. Now I'm pretty sure it's Bloodraven warged into some wight. The wight could be Benjen, but if he is, I don't think any of his consciousness remains. From Dance: "By day only half a dozen ravens stayed with them, flitting from tree to tree or riding on the antlers of the elk. The rest of the murder flew ahead or lingered behind. But when the sun sank low they would return, descending from the sky on night-black wings until every branch of every tree was thick with them for yards around. Some would fly to the ranger and mutter at him, and it seemed to Bran that he understood their quorks and squawks. They are his eyes and ears. They scout for him, and whisper to him of dangers ahead and behind." There's only one guy who talks to ravens and has them scout for him.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I seem to recall the showrunners saying Howland will never show up. I get the feeling we'll be seeing a lot of theories discounted based on show casting from here on out. Hell I would love for the show writers to be a driving force behind what the next two books become because quite frankly they'll be writing them anyway while GRRM fucks around with his other projects until he dies.
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Trast posted:I get the feeling we'll be seeing a lot of theories discounted based on show casting from here on out. Hell I would love for the show writers to be a driving force behind what the next two books become because quite frankly they'll be writing them anyway while GRRM fucks around with his other projects until he dies. But at the same time, it remains to be seen. I remember when season two rolled around and the Reed kids weren't cast or announced at all, we all went "well, guess Jojen's green dreams don't mean gently caress all, eh?" but now they're in the show. So some of it is for sure GRRM saying certain people don't go anywhere, but part of it also is just them being efficent writers.
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