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FreelanceSocialist posted:*Gizmo guys = morons* Welp.  It's okay, I'll always have my fond memories of Sex Viking. They can't take that from me. Though now I wonder- if they're former Tech Shop regulars (yeah, that place closed up shop suddenly, roomie was PISSED), maybe my roommate might know them? Not exactly sure how that might be relevant or useful, but eh.Also I'm crazy enough to possibly set up a trade or something for that Frangelic, Sirotan. I've mostly eased off my diabetic sweet tooth with beers, but I was still curious about that before it disappeared and I have a feeling it would be right up my roommate's alley- she goes batshit for Creme Brûlée/Choklat etc. If you want it off your hands PM me and we might could work something out.
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air- posted:but will definitely be at The Common Table this Saturday for the Abyss tapping at 1 if you can make it out! I'll have to try and check that out, my daughter (last of three kids) graduates from high school <b>finally!!!</b> on Saturday, hopefully I can sneak away after lunch. HatfulOfHollow posted:People think Doom is terrible? I mean, beer is subjective, but I had it on tap last night at a Founders event and thought it was wonderful. Maybe the stuff in bottles is way different, but last night it tasted like pineapple with a hint of vanilla and oak. It really worked for me and the people I was talking with. Many brews are this way, and is more common than I care to think about. It is the bottling process that can subtly (and sometimes not so subtly) change the taste of a brew from what you get on tap. I personally prefer to get tap every chance I can get.
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Valencia posted:Welp. I wouldn't say they are "morons" - they're smart enough - they're just jumping into something without having an appreciation for how incredibly hard it really is. Or any experience having done it before. So "overly-confident" or "naive" is probably more accurate. I really do wish them the best of luck, though, because everyone deserves a shot. It's just that not everyone deserves to succeed. Like college. FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Jun 5, 2013 |
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Speaking of Founders and beers that are polarizing, Devil Dancer just hit the shelves again. Not a chance I'd ever buy it again. That beer is boozy and too hoppy.
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Jun 5, 2013 22:51
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Well... "Triple IPA" at 12.0% ABV.
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It was better than 120 Minute. But so is all other beer. Will not be buying any this year, or really ever.
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I swear that 120 Minute circa 2008 was actually a really good beer. I first bought one when I just turned 21, back when you could buy a case with no one caring. I remember bringing it home, letting it chill, and slowly savoring it. It wasn't lovely like it is fresh now. It was intensely hopped while being very malty, but it never crossed into the line of overhopped, didn't have any off-flavors, and very little booze on the finish. A buddy of mine actually bought a sixtel of the 2008 in the Summer of 2009 and shared it with a few of us at a block party we had. It was one of the few beers that I remember the exact moment I sipped it, I don't remember the specific flavors, but I remember it being balanced nicely between sweet and hoppy with a lot of citrus. I wound up having two pints and even people who disliked beer enjoyed it. This was pre-hype and all that jazz even, back when beer was beer and the only thing really exciting about it was the high ABV. This was also when the beer had huge variations and never had a consistent ABV, it ranged from 18%-25% as listed on the website. Now it tastes like poo poo fresh. I've had it on tap at the brewpub and it was a bit better than bottles, but it's still far too hot and band-aid tasting. I haven't had an aged one in a while, but I have a few 2010 and 2011 bottles in my "cellar" that I'll open eventually. I know my tastebuds have changed, but I could definitely tell a poo poo beer from a good one then at the very least.
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Midorka posted:I swear that 120 Minute circa 2008 was actually a really good beer. I first bought one when I just turned 21, back when you could buy a case with no one caring. I remember bringing it home, letting it chill, and slowly savoring it. It wasn't lovely like it is fresh now. It was intensely hopped while being very malty, but it never crossed into the line of overhopped, didn't have any off-flavors, and very little booze on the finish. A buddy of mine actually bought a sixtel of the 2008 in the Summer of 2009 and shared it with a few of us at a block party we had. It was one of the few beers that I remember the exact moment I sipped it, I don't remember the specific flavors, but I remember it being balanced nicely between sweet and hoppy with a lot of citrus. I wound up having two pints and even people who disliked beer enjoyed it. This was pre-hype and all that jazz even, back when beer was beer and the only thing really exciting about it was the high ABV. This was also when the beer had huge variations and never had a consistent ABV, it ranged from 18%-25% as listed on the website. I thought 2008 was a good 120 year too. In fact, I still have a bottle I should maybe think about opening or doing something with it.
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I finally found a sour (and non-Michelob Ultra or Pyramid Apricot) beer my wife will drink. Petrus Aged Red. I've been holding off on drinking this for a while because of all of the "sugar bomb" reviews here. I figured she was out of her sweet red wine and I wanted some beer, so we split it. Her take on it- "It's like Luden's made a beer". I can't really argue. In other sour news, I've only seen CIB Brewery mentioned once in this thread, and it wasn't a glowing review of it. They've recently hit the KC market pretty hard and I was interested in trying it. Picked up a Yola and a couple of Morningwood today. The Yola was actually pretty drat good. It's an "imperial Amber", which is what I'm guessing is what they're calling their Oud Bruin. Same flavor profile. I'd call it a pretty good starter sour (Better than Petrus' Oud Bruin by a pretty good margin), but it definitely lacks any trace of barrel or funk. Still a positive experience, though. I'm looking forward to opening the Morningwood, as I've never had a sour stout, although Anisocoria Feldman is going to change that for me with some JP goods. 
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My first Devil Dancer smelled like a bag of great weed. I'll buy at least 1 every year that I can just to chase that experience. I was actually just thinking about DD as I had a really tasty pint of Double Trouble on the way home from work today. I think I'm at 5+ Wednesdays in a row going to this bar and having some different DIPA, completely unintentionally (beyond 'not what I had last week'). DIPA-related, though, I was down in Raleigh again recently for a minute and I saw some beer from SouthPoint (Carrboro, new brewery to me) that purported to be a wheat + rye double-dry hopped DIPA, DUH! (8% abv). With a bottle date of 5/28 I had to pick it up. I poured it yeaterday and it was really nice. It was a bit heavily on the "bag of hops" side instead of the "bag of great hops" that some beers provide, but the sweetness that was there was nicely balanced with the bitterness, so I really enjoyed it. The lady who sold it to me said that it was their only beer so far that has stood out to her. Other Raleigh drinkin: Fullsteam Sweet Potato Lager, Greenman IPA, Aviator Hop Rod Red, Mystery Gross loving Saison Ugh. The Aviator was probably my favorite, but the Sweet Potato Lager was a little to easy to just keep drinking all night. e: I'm suspicious of a brewery that sells a sour imperial amber. It's either poor marketing or unintentional sour. eeeee: I just read the brewery site. I think they just shouldn't use that term that sort of indicates another style... ChickenArise fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Jun 6, 2013 |
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My first advice on DD was "onions". If it's "bag of great weed I may have to buy some after all.
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Captain Shortbus posted:My first advice on DD was "onions". If it's "bag of great weed I may have to buy some after all. That was 2 or 3 years ago. I haven't caught it at the right moment since, and I'm not convinced it's possible. I'm just dumb enough to try. 
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ChickenArise posted:That was 2 or 3 years ago. I haven't caught it at the right moment since, and I'm not convinced it's possible. I'm just dumb enough to try. The further I go, the more I'm convinced that craft beer drinking is like heroin addiction. We all remember that great epiphany of a certain style and we'll go to hell and back, spending what we must, to get that same feeling. It never comes again. Fortunately, we find other great epiphanies along the way. And pass drug tests  e- and regarding the style labeling, it kind of irks me, but at the same time, it's really not a beer to avoid. I wouldn't hesitate to throw it in a trade box for somebody who I know likes sour beers. It's just not on the level of a Russian River or LoveChild. Still not a bad brew. Captain Shortbus fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Jun 6, 2013 |
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ChickenArise posted:Other Raleigh drinkin: Fullsteam Sweet Potato Lager, Greenman IPA, Aviator Hop Rod Red, Mystery Gross loving Saison Ugh. The Aviator was probably my favorite, but the Sweet Potato Lager was a little to easy to just keep drinking all night.  at Tyler's for failing to notice their Raleigh Brewing keg was changed over and serving me some weaksauce pilsner when I was rarin' for the Hell Yes Ma'am tripel on my birthday.)And Carver is probably my favorite Fullsteam year-round offering, you're right about being able to put them back with ease. So good. edit for more Raleigh/NC chat: Tell me I'm not the only one who hates the new Lonerider labels? The older ones were way more sophisticated looking. Can't remember if someone's brought this up already or not but yeah.
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Living in PA, and having access to Troegs Scratch Series is pretty awesome. Naked Elf is amazing.
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Vertigo posted:Living in PA, and having access to Troegs Scratch Series is pretty awesome. Johnny Brenda's had firkins of a bunch of Troegs scratch beers this weekend for their It's A Firkin Riot event for beer week. The black rye was my favorite. Troegs needs more love. I always underestimate them but they never case to produce quality beer.
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I'm personally convinced that perpetual IPA is a superior beer to nugget nectar. Also, I imagine Naked Elf is far superior to the terrible mad elf
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I will be looking out for Mango Magnifico. I think it sounds pretty tasty. Then again, I didn't think Doom was offensive, and I rather liked Frangelic Mountain Brown. To teach their own.  e: I do have to say though, Better Half is the best Backstage series I've ever tried. For the record, I never had the chance to try Blushing Monk, or CBS. Kudosx fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Jun 6, 2013 |
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The only beer I've had that literally smelled like a bag of weed was Flower Power that had been in the fermenter that morning before they put some in a sixtel and drove it down to Philly for beer week. Holy poo poo was that good.
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Man, I've had exactly one Boneyard beer and it ruled. They just tapped Nefarious IPA and its the first time in a while that an IPA impressed me with some new flavors.
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Angry Grimace posted:Man, I've had exactly one Boneyard beer and it ruled. They just tapped Nefarious IPA and its the first time in a while that an IPA impressed me with some new flavors. You mean Notorious? EDIT: That's their Triple IPA.
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Angry Grimace posted:Man, I've had exactly one Boneyard beer and it ruled. They just tapped Nefarious IPA and its the first time in a while that an IPA impressed me with some new flavors. Awww welcome to real Bend beer! Where'd you have it?
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So I signed up for the Adroit Brewing test taster that some guys were bashing for their awful site and etc. I got the package today and here's some the labels/bottles: More here. Despite their lovely site, their bottles look more professional than half of the stuff I see on the shelves. I don't care for the aesthetics, too metal for me, but man they do look good. I don't know anything about the first beer Cannibalism, but T/P/D is an imperial saison brewed with wormwood, sage, and dry-hopped on basil. The bag of green powder is actually sugar that they encourage to add to the beer like drinking absinthe. I was going to open one tonight, but I figured I'd share it with my girlfriend in-case they are good.
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Are those holofoil beer labels? The one on the right has way too much going on for that color palette. It's like eye vomit until you puzzle it out. The one on the left looks like they commissioned a middle schooler. Edit: What the gently caress is happening to his left arm? Kraven Moorhed fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Jun 6, 2013 |
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i'm sure you guys remember my post about the owner of Mekong loading up a U-Haul truck at Dark Lord Day and bringing it back to VA, so i figured you'd be interested in the ultimate outcome- he gave it all away. $3200 of his own money (plus the truck rental and gas). some went to friends and a bunch went to charities for prizes/giveaways because An is a genuinely Good and Generous dude. now here's the lame part: Mekong hosted a party for the Richmond band Municipal Waste and gave away Toxic Revolution, the beer that they made with 3 Floyds. no money changed hands in what was a one-off, beers-among-friends event at his restaurant... but someone got a bee in their bonnet and complained to the ABC, who in turn raided Mekong for illegal beers. i heard they only found some personal growlers that were stored in wrong place (and were subsequently dumped), but if they had found a 3F keg, he could've lost his liquor license and therefore most of his business. i know most of you don't know this guy personally and don't understand how hosed up this is, but imagine the NSA going after Mr Rogers and you'll get the picture. doubly hosed as there is a bar in Norfolk that openly sells out-of-distro beers and has been doing so for years.
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It sucks and it's lame and whoever reported it is a douchebag. Similar things have happened in my neck of the woods. Alcohol laws are (generally) really hosed up. As a businessman (especially in his line of work), An should have known better, though. Hold your shindig somewhere off-site.
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Valencia posted:You talking about the Mystery Beatrix? Tyler's was out of it both times I've been in the past few weeks and I was disappointed because lately saisons are my jam. Looks like I may have dodged a bullet there. (Also The only Mystery Saison (and beer, I guess. I think someone here steered me away from Six Impossible Things at one point) I've had is Evangeline, and I liked it. Re: Raleigh Brewing. I had both the pilsner and the tripel last weekend at an event and you should be pissed. Maybe it was just because I drank it second, but the pilsner was pretty boring. I also tried the IPL and ESB at the last food truck rodeo and both were good.
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funkybottoms posted:i'm sure you guys remember my post about the owner of Mekong loading up a U-Haul truck at Dark Lord Day and bringing it back to VA, so i figured you'd be interested in the ultimate outcome- he gave it all away. $3200 of his own money (plus the truck rental and gas). some went to friends and a bunch went to charities for prizes/giveaways because An is a genuinely Good and Generous dude. That does sound really lovely, but at the same time, it sounds like he was breaking the law. If you're knowingly doing things that are illegal, despite how stupid the laws are, can you really complain that much?
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i'm not saying he was doing something that ABC wouldn't frown upon- and i'm not trying to start a debate about that part- but i heard about this from guys who run bars that would ostensibly benefit from a Mekong closure and they were incredibly pissed off that somebody would go out of their way to target a pillar of the community like that.
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Midorka posted:So I signed up for the Adroit Brewing test taster that some guys were bashing for their awful site and etc. I got the package today and here's some the labels/bottles: How does this taste tester thing work? It almost sounded like you had to be within driving distance of the brewery to go pick up their stuff. Do you pay them to ship the beer to you? re: ABC type stuff, a bar called Strangeways here in Dallas had stuff like Westy 12's, PtE, Dark Lords sitting in plain view on windowed coolers. They ended up closing a while because TABC took all their beer.
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At least the people who did the audit were competent. A few years ago someone reported a bar up here and they confiscated a ton of beer that was actually legal to sell. I just checked the PLCB website and I've had quite a few "illegal" beers at beer week so far. Also, the amount of typos and inconsistencies in this database is astounding. http://www.lcbapps.lcb.state.pa.us/webapp/registered_brands.asp?strSrch=All
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funkybottoms posted:i'm not saying he was doing something that ABC wouldn't frown upon- and i'm not trying to start a debate about that part- but i heard about this from guys who run bars that would ostensibly benefit from a Mekong closure and they were incredibly pissed off that somebody would go out of their way to target a pillar of the community like that. I have no idea how strict the VA alcohol laws are, but it's not uncommon to see out-of-distro things be tapped/offered here in Illinois as kind of special/one-off type things. I imagine in those cases, someone at the bar/shop would need to inform the regulators of this. As lovely as it is for ABC to gently caress with this guy, he probably should have reached out to someone first and said, "Hey, can I get a special permit for this really nice thing I'm doing?"
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The Bunk posted:The only Mystery Saison (and beer, I guess. I think someone here steered me away from Six Impossible Things at one point) I've had is Evangeline, and I liked it. I don't recall the name of it, but I thought the tap list was "Mystery something something saison" It tasted of medicine, band-aids, and weirdly sweet fruit. It was hard for me to drink and no one else cared for it. I'm 0/2 on trying Mystery beers, but I haven't given up. At least it didn't make me (+ my dad and uncle) sick like the Roth beer I had!
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air- posted:How does this club work? Do you pay them to ship the beer to you? Nope, they paid for shipping. Oddly enough they shipped through USPS too. As for the Mekong thing, I can't help but wonder that since he sold none of it, how could he have gotten in any trouble. If the beer was kept for personal uses and given away, I can't see how it's any different than me going to another state and bringing a keg for an event without charging anyone. I guess since he was doing it on his business grounds would be the cause for trouble, but couldn't it just have been considered as a "BYOB" event with all of the beer coming from one person?
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Haha wow, what's the contact to get on the list with Adroit Theory? I'll take free beer, why not.
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Midorka posted:As for the Mekong thing, I can't help but wonder that since he sold none of it, how could he have gotten in any trouble. If the beer was kept for personal uses and given away, I can't see how it's any different than me going to another state and bringing a keg for an event without charging anyone. I guess since he was doing it on his business grounds would be the cause for trouble, but couldn't it just have been considered as a "BYOB" event with all of the beer coming from one person? I'm sure different states have different cutoff points for "personal consumption" and "distribution," no different than your standard drug laws. If I show up with 15 cases of RR stuff in an Illinois shop, I'm sure that'd look bad to the authorities...
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The art on those Adroit Theory labels is on par with the card art for the Ascension board game. Which is another way of saying it is terrible.
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Midorka posted:Nope, they paid for shipping. Oddly enough they shipped through USPS too. VA legislation only allows for BYOB with Wine at the moment, but An has been working with legislators to get beer added to that. VA ABC legislation is some of the most complicated, hosed up, and regressive in the nation. It wasn't until last year that breweries could sell beer at tasting rooms, for example. edit to clarify: The BYOB with wine thing means I could bring my own wine to a restaurant with an ABC license and drink it with my meal with no problems regardless of where it's from or the legality of it, but if I were to show up with a bottle of BA DL I'd be breaking the law. WHEEZY KISS A DUDE fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Jun 6, 2013 |
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air- posted:Haha wow, what's the contact to get on the list with Adroit Theory? I'll take free beer, why not. I think they are full now, but you can send them an e-mail, that's what I did. Also there's a lot of people in here who dislike the labels. I can't say I dislike the aesthetics, but they have a very professional quality about them. I mean the quality of the labels themselves. They look like they should be served at a black metal concert, but they do have a high quality look and feel to them, as does everything about the packaging. Considering these guys are just homebrewers, I am massively impressed.
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Many states don't allow licensees to give away alcoholic beverages on the premises. An probably ran afoul of that. VA is a little strange in some respects - 3 VAC 5 70 100 governs gifting alcoholic beverages, but you'll probably die of an aneurysm if you read through it and its referenced codes.
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