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Krinkle posted:Tomokazu sugita did porn games? No. Nooooooooo. Which ones. Don't tell me. Link me no don't I don't know what I'm saying He voices Keisuke in Togainu no Chi. He's also voiced other roles in a bunch of games for dudes (he's the main character of Gekkou no Carnivale, for instance). Here's Tomokazu Sugita and Norio Wakamoto talking to each other in a game we will never see in English. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r45u3IR4_QI
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jonjonaug posted:It's actually bigger than you might think it is. There are loads of BL games with voices, for example. Jun Fukuyama, Tomokazu Sugita, and Katsuyuki Konishi are also some examples of male VAs who'll appear in porn games (these guys all appear in Togainu no Chi and Majikoi, for instance). Yeah, availability of voice talent isn't really the issue. Most male VAs have done BL or regular porn at some point in their career (Miyano Mamoru being a notable exception as his agency is pretty strict on that sort of thing). The unvoiced protagonist thing is both a self-insert thing and sort of a 'tradition' in VNs? I'd be hard pressed to come up with a BL game that doesn't have a voiced protagonist though.
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Fangz posted:Save The Date hasn't been mentioned, has it?
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Fangz posted:Save The Date hasn't been mentioned, has it? This reminds me of Madoka,  EDIT:I finally got the good ending because I am a hacker 
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jonjonaug posted:It's actually bigger than you might think it is. There are loads of BL games with voices, for example. Jun Fukuyama, Tomokazu Sugita, and Katsuyuki Konishi are also some examples of male VAs who'll appear in porn games (these guys all appear in Togainu no Chi and Majikoi, for instance). Krinkle posted:Tomokazu sugita did porn games? No. Nooooooooo. Which ones. Don't tell me. Link me no don't I don't know what I'm saying Bringing up Majikoi is kind of unfair since it has a huge cast of famous seiyuu and none of the male ones do any H-scenes anyway. My best guess for the unvoiced protagonist is that early voiced eroge cut the protagonist's voice both to save a little on the budget and because that wasn't what they were marketing. They were selling the voices of the heroines, and didn't feel that male voices were necessary for boosting their sales in the market of the sort of otaku who buy eroge. The opposite is true for Otome/BL games, since the boys are the selling point for marketing to girls. Later it might have started playing into the thing of trying to get the player to overlay themselves onto the protagonist, but I think it took a while for that level of escapism to become commonplace.
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Nate RFB posted:So... Is there actually a different ending? I think there's three good endings, depending on how you interpret things. (Massive spoilers) Which one you prefer would probably depend on you. The simplest is calling off the date. If you do this after the scene on the hilltop, I think you get extra text concluding this was the best things could have gone. The hacker ending is implied by one of the hilltop conversation trees, and involves editing a game file. Personally I think the true intended ending though is the one obtained by the 'say nothing' line, wherein Felicia will herself suggest you a course of action.
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Fangz posted:Save the date spoilers. Yeah, I believe the 3rd option is probably the "intended" one as far as narrative goes. Anyway, the game was a fairly enjoyable 1 hour read even though I've seen it done before (but then again I read a lot so...)
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Jun 7, 2013 12:26
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Just finished up the Meakashi-hen episode of Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai. Excellent, excellent game thus far. I've been having a blast with it's constant twists and turns. It's just felt extremely long, is all. How long are the following three episodes? Are any of them shorter ones like Himatsubushi was? Fairly excited to get through this so I can start up Umineko, which I've heard so much about. 
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Jun 7, 2013 16:40
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Haha, if you thought the Higurashi episodes were long, you're in for a treat with Umineko
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Jun 7, 2013 16:41
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All of the Higurashi Kai chapters are about the same length, except for Matsuribayashi (the final one) which I believe is a bit longer. At 3.24 MB, Higurashi Kai is collectively longer than Muv-Luv Alternative.
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Fangz posted:I think there's three good endings, depending on how you interpret things. (Massive spoilers) Which one you prefer would probably depend on you. I think there's potentially a fourth where you actually open up the game files and read through them that way. The files are oddly named and doing this is hinted heavily by the say nothing part, if I remember correctly. I'm too lazy to try and actually get in there though. Overall though man, what an experience. That was pretty good and something in the same vein but longer would be amazing.
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The amount of dramatic irony you get swamped with by playing Fate/Stay Night after watching Fate/Zero is a bit overwhelming. Seeing Emiya Shirou being best friends with Matou Sakura while knowing Emiya Kiritsugu and Matou Kariya's story is almost painful. The same goes for Rin and her father and Kirei's story. It's almost depressing.
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ViggyNash posted:The amount of dramatic irony you get swamped with by playing Fate/Stay Night after watching Fate/Zero is a bit overwhelming. Seeing Emiya Shirou being best friends with Matou Sakura while knowing Emiya Kiritsugu and Matou Kariya's story is almost painful. The same goes for Rin and her father and Kirei's story. It's almost depressing. I can't imagine watching zero without knowing at least part of what happened in stay night. It was really cool.
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ViggyNash posted:The amount of dramatic irony you get swamped with by playing Fate/Stay Night after watching Fate/Zero is a bit overwhelming. Seeing Emiya Shirou being best friends with Matou Sakura while knowing Emiya Kiritsugu and Matou Kariya's story is almost painful. The same goes for Rin and her father and Kirei's story. It's almost depressing. I had this same experience, having watched Fate/Zero first. It was pretty funny seeing it early on where Shirou is like "Huh look at this weird foreign looking guy with blonde hair walking in the streets, wonder who that is".
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The Umineko Chiru PS3 conversion patch is finished. http://uminekofix.wikia.com/wiki/Core_Arcs
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jonjonaug posted:The Umineko Chiru PS3 conversion patch is finished. Oh hell yes I was waiting for this to come out before re-reading.
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Barent posted:I had this same experience, having watched Fate/Zero first. It was pretty funny seeing it early on where Shirou is like "Huh look at this weird foreign looking guy with blonde hair walking in the streets, wonder who that is". Wait a sec, was that Gilgamesh? Did Sakura really summon Gilgamesh? I haven't played too much of it yet so I'm not sure. I played about 5 minutes past the very first decision. But still, I should have noticed when Rin spotted them, if that is the case.
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How could you have seen the ending to Fate/Zero and ask that question? Even though Heaven's Feel depressed me unmerciful I enjoyed Fate/Zero, even knowing how it's going to end, even knowing all these new characters are definitely 100% guaranteed to die. One of them even didn't! That was neat. Rider was just fantastic in every scene. Caster's googly eyes and weird voice was great too. Krinkle fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Jun 8, 2013 |
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Jun 8, 2013 15:27
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jonjonaug posted:The Umineko Chiru PS3 conversion patch is finished. It might be a good idea for somewhere in the OP or second post to collect which VNs have separate patches that the player may be interested, which ones are strongly recommended, etc. It may not be practical to post links for each (who knows where the Ever17 ones are these days), but just having the info might be helpful. Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Jun 8, 2013 |
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Jun 8, 2013 15:35
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Krinkle posted:How could you have seen the ending to Fate/Zero and ask that question? Oh, right. He's still with Kirei I guess. But was that him being Kirei's intermediary to Sakura? I'm not sure who else he could be. Also, I just passed the part where Shirou passes Illyasviel on the street. Knowing that they are step-siblings... I'm awash in an endless torrent of dramatic irony.
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Now I can finally find out if Natsuhi's crying sprite exists in ps3 land. I mean people were absolutely brutal to her in the question arcs and she never had anime rivers of tears flowing down her face but she does constantly in chapter 5 and I couldn't tell if she was just that much more distraught in this chapter or of that single I'm-mildly-distraught sweat drop in the ps3 graphics was it.
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I found an interesting Nasu interview quote. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NEZzQsil7Zgkajr6ESYIoW1JNN6aeBuG4kE2SZWghXw/edit?pli=1 quote:- (interviewer says something about K-On having female superiority) I wasn't expecting to see a Japanese writer say something like that about his own work. It will be interesting to see what this means for the characterization in Mahoyo.
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Wow, Nasu seems like a cool guy. Never would've expected that from him.
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Holy poo poo. That is very surprising to hear, but I'm glad he actually reflects on that and wants to do better.
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I'm going through Kirari's route in Kira Kira. Why did she die? 
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So that there can be an unlockable true ending for her once you've finished all the routes and replay her route.
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Wow, Fate/Stay Night is legitimately difficult to get through. I've died once and hit a bad end so far and I'm pretty sure I'm not at all that far into the game. I guess Steins;Gate and Chaos;Head aren't really games by comparison, since those are the only 2 things I've played so far.
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Fate stay has like 40 "bad" ends. They are all fairly interesting, and easy to fix. Just be sure to save at decision points and you'll be fine. Make sure you watch the tigers dojo, if you haven't been.
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I said no to them so far. Is there any benefit to not using them, or do you just get the satisfaction of beating the game without help? And fortunately I save at every single decision point, so going back isn't a big deal.
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There are like two bad ends, ever, where the answer wasn't "go back to the last choice you had, choose the other one". The tiger dojo isn't taking anything away from the game it's a fun time. Come on down.
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They don't really help you, its more a short comedy skit. There's a reward at the end for getting all of them.
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The Dojos don't really help that much, they're just funny little scenes that tell you to go back and pick the option that doesn't get you killed. You get a bonus scene if you see them all as well.
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ViggyNash posted:I said no to them so far. Is there any benefit to not using them, or do you just get the satisfaction of beating the game without help?
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Maybe he would like to keep the characters' images? It does totally destroy the mood of the actual story, after all.
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Paracelsus posted:Maybe he would like to keep the characters' images? It does totally destroy the mood of the actual story, after all.
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By "keeping the characters images", does it does mean our image of who they are? Is the short skit that out of character that it would ruin our original image of them, or does it mean something else?
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ViggyNash posted:By "keeping the characters images", does it does mean our image of who they are? Is the short skit that out of character that it would ruin our original image of them, or does it mean something else? I think it means our images of them as SERIOUS CHARACTERS IN A SERIOUS STORY (despite the fact that Taiga is a comic relief character is the main story).
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Endorph posted:Eh, I don't think little gag scenes every now and then ruin the emotional impact. As a random example, watching the science lessons in Gunbuster doesn't make the emotional moments in it not work.
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It's just engrish for 'this is a goofy gag bit and might ruin the mood if you're really into this." The warning itself is probably part of the joke, too.
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I'm at the part where Shirou, Rin, and Saber are escaping Illyasviel's castle, and they end up in some ruins (yes, I know what happens next). However, at one specific moment in the dialog between Rin and Shirou voice files stop playing. Music and sound effects work fine, but for some reason voices won't. Is this a known bug or just some random glitch that I'm stuck with? e:Ok, I thought that Shirou loving Saber would have been bad enough, but now it's a lesbian orgy. Holy poo poo did they overdo this part. ViggyNash fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Jun 10, 2013 |
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