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I just got back from Harbor Freight (god bless china), and there was some fuckin'  poo poo coming from the two guys behind me.Comment about the Asian high-school kid working the aisles? "I went to a Thai restaurant downtown and all of the male waiters were definitely gay." "Yeah, I believe it. What a shame." Comment about the black couple? I wish I was joking... but literally a keep your powder dry discussion. 
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Jun 8, 2013 18:13
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Phone posted:Comment about the black couple? I wish I was joking... but literally a keep your powder dry discussion. These morons want some sort of race/civil war in America sooooo loving bad, but when push comes to shove I have to wonder how they would actually stack up against a modern military.
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Jun 8, 2013 18:43
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Pfirti86 posted:These morons want some sort of race/civil war in America sooooo loving bad, but when push comes to shove I have to wonder how they would actually stack up against a modern military. Poorly. The Rascal wheels make the stack really unstable and they just end up rolling away from each other.
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Meatball posted:I've brought that up in other places, how an assault rifle would not protect you from a predator with missles. So, how are they going to deal with the numerous AFVs and MBTs, in that case?  Not to mention low level airborne threats, like the gunship helicopter?On one side, you've got 30, 40, and 50 somethings, with semi-automatic WASR-10s and AR-15 clones vs. teenagers and 20 somethings in peak physical condition, with way more automatics, with armored fighting vehicles, and airborne assets.
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Jun 8, 2013 19:41
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SkopeDog posted:So, how are they going to deal with the numerous AFVs and MBTs, in that case? I think the idea they have is that they'll wage some sort of guerilla war against the government. Not that it matters, since all the material that could actually teach them how to fight the oppressor in asymmetrical terms were written by those darn leftists.
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Jun 8, 2013 19:46
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SkopeDog posted:So, how are they going to deal with the numerous AFVs and MBTs, in that case? Obviously the military will be on THEIR side, when the truth regarding Obungers fascist socialist government is finally exposed... Any day now... Keep You´re Powder Dry .. !!!
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Jun 8, 2013 19:50
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Konec Hry posted:Obviously the military will be on THEIR side, when the truth regarding Obungers fascist socialist government is finally exposed... But if the military is gonna be on their side, why would they want some fat redneck with a chinese ak knock off and no training to do the fighting? That makes absolutely no sense. Seriously, CW2'ers, if the military is on your side, they don't need you and if the military is against you, you're hosed so your precious assault rifle is literally worthless when the time comes to take down the Kenyan Usurper.
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Jun 8, 2013 22:52
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Phone posted:I just got back from Harbor Freight (god bless china), and there was some fuckin' There are only 3 or 4 things worth buying at Harbor Freight, and none of them have moving parts. You seriously get what you pay for in tools. 
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Jun 8, 2013 23:19
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ultimateforce posted:There are only 3 or 4 things worth buying at Harbor Freight, and none of them have moving parts. My Pittsburgh ratchets have been great for several years.  That and their return policy is "Grab a new one."
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Jun 8, 2013 23:22
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ultimateforce posted:There are only 3 or 4 things worth buying at Harbor Freight, and none of them have moving parts. Sounds like somebody isn't reading the Tools thread.
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Jun 9, 2013 00:40
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ultimateforce posted:There are only 3 or 4 things worth buying at Harbor Freight, and none of them have moving parts. Eh, I've got a $30 oscillating cutter I got from there that I use almost everyday. I wouldn't buy an impact driver or a chop saw there but they've got some poo poo that works just as well as name brand stuff. Tool chat. Phone posted:Sounds like somebody isn't reading the Tools thread. Where is this thread. Tell me.
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Jun 9, 2013 00:49
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800peepee51doodoo posted:
Seriously, out of all the things I skim through in this fantastic thread, this has interested me the most.
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What better place to have a tools thread than AI? http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2788369
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I have a personal preference to the non-AI version but that may be because I made it. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3384038
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Meatball posted:I've brought that up in other places, how an assault rifle would not protect you from a predator with missles. Gee, why didn't every group ever targeted by drone strikes think of that?
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Jun 9, 2013 04:32
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I'm going to feel really, really bad for posting these two. Facebook page is called "American Patriot" Right now, both of these pictures can be seen exactly 1 post apart from each other:  https://www.facebook.com/#!/Protectingourconstitution?hc_location=stream
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Jun 9, 2013 08:11
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thegalagakid posted:I'm going to feel really, really bad for posting these two. Facebook page is called "American Patriot" Right now, both of these pictures can be seen exactly 1 post apart from each other:  Also, Sir Rolo posted:
This, but unironically. It would be worse without Obamacare. A public option would be even better. Mister Bates fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Jun 9, 2013 |
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Jun 9, 2013 22:39
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How do you even respond to idiots insisting that the Confederate Flag is just SOUTHERN PRIDE and not related to anything racist at all? Like where do you even loving start I know its a pointless question because they'll never listen, but goddamn.
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Jun 10, 2013 08:12
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Maybe start by listing good things about the south. Things you can both agree on. Then ask how many of those things were things that the Confederacy was founded for or were factors in the Civil War. (It'll probably be zero.) It's possible to have southern pride in a way that doesn't make everyone else think you're an rear end in a top hat (and not coincidentally, which doesn't overlap significantly with white supremacy), yet they are choosing to celebrate everything bad about the south, to the detriment of anything good. edit: Maybe ask them WHO should love the south like they do, and why? VideoTapir fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Jun 10, 2013 |
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Dabbo posted:How do you even respond to idiots insisting that the Confederate Flag is just SOUTHERN PRIDE and not related to anything racist at all? Like where do you even loving start I usually point out the Cornerstone Speech, then how the CSA made it illegal to abolish slavery in any state (CSA Constitution), and usually some choice quotes from Reconstruction and post-Reconstruction politicians and activists (Henry Grady's a personal favorite, since he was still giving speeches about how blacks had to be kept under whites at all costs as late as 1889). If nothing else, it forces them to tip their hand and show whether or not they've bought into the "War of Northern Aggression" story, the "the South was getting ready to abolish slavery" lie, or just the fact that they're ignorant of what the Confederacy was actually all about. That's the biggest problem, to be honest - I've banged my head against this issue for a while, myself, and seriously, some of these people literally don't know that the concept of white supremacy was a fundamental underpinning of the Confederate political machine.
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They made it illegal to ban slavery because they were getting ready to do it all at once, and doing it piecemeal wouldn't work because of reasons. I'm just trying out some rationalizations. I can't figure how to make that one work while simultaneously defending the "states' rights" argument.
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Dabbo posted:How do you even respond to idiots insisting that the Confederate Flag is just SOUTHERN PRIDE and not related to anything racist at all? Like where do you even loving start ... are you my dad? He and I literally had this exact conversation last weekend. The day before, he got into a tense discussion with some family friends (who are on their second Gadsden Flag since the first one wore out ) and their defense was "it just means you're from the South!"I later sent him this fun rebuttal: 
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Dabbo posted:How do you even respond to idiots insisting that the Confederate Flag is just SOUTHERN PRIDE and not related to anything racist at all? Like where do you even loving start
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Guilty Spork posted:If I was in a mood to be a jerk and maybe risk getting punched I'd be tempted to ask why they have to wave around some non-American flag the way Mexicans do (and the way, say, Ethiopians and Japanese in America don't), and why they can't just assimilate and be American. I nearly got punched when I told some guy that flying the flag of traitors and secessionists makes you Un-American. Also, anytime screams about heritage, send them links to the Letters of Secession sent out by the first states to secede: Its almost all about slavery
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VideoTapir posted:Maybe start by listing good things about the south. Things you can both agree on. Then ask how many of those things were things that the Confederacy was founded for or were factors in the Civil War. (It'll probably be zero.)
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I always try to frame it by asking people why they're so proud of our four years of treachery instead of the rest of our (kind of) rad history. Or at least cultural heritage.
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I'd say it's a mostly pointless endeavor. Symbols can mean different things to different people. Current people in the South that are the type to hang a Confederate flag are separated from slavery by enough time that it won't be the first thing they think of when they see the flag. However the cultural differences between the South and the rest of the nation (which yeah, includes some racism, but that's not what it's primarily about to them) are still obvious to them. What if I said "The American Flag is loving evil and no one should fly it" because I'm enough of a history buff to know about all the atrocities we've committed as a country, and to me the flag has come to represent that American blind, unflinching, hateful zeal that allowed us to kick the natives off their land and found an imperialist legacy? How do you expect Americans who hold the flag up as a positive symbol would react to that? If I asked how to convert these people into American flag haters, what would you suggest? Let's face it, the Confederate flag people are also right, because you can't be wrong about what a symbol means to you. It doesn't matter that the revisionist history they will often trot out is incorrect. If someone thinks the Confederate flag stands for Southern unity, gentlemanliness, and corsets, it's not like they are wrong. That's just what it means for them. I'd say the better tack to take is to show them that regardless of their personal feelings on the matter, outside of the south the flag has definite connotations of slavery and racism to such a degree that it is not socially acceptable, and the swastika is an excellent example to illustrate this point. It doesn't matter if you still use it for its meanings like higher self or the eternal mind or whatever. If you get one tattooed on your neck, people are going to misunderstand your intentions. It's fine to hang the Confederate flag in the South, because people there get Southern Pride and will understand your meaning, just like a bunch of Buddhists would understand the more traditional uses of a Swastika. But you'd be wasting your air. At least on any younger person, because they all already implicitly understand this idea. That's why wearing a shirt with a Confederate flag is considered sort of punk in style. At least here in Texas, this might not be true in the deeper South. It's similar to wearing a Che shirt or any other provocative political imagery.
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The Confederate Flag is a much more recent symbol of oppression, though - Georgia added the confederate flag to its state flag in 1956, as a middle finger to the federal government trying to enforce school integration.
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 Holy hell I honestly don't even know if we speak the same language. Discussion about some Putin quote about "lack of culture and primitive ways" of minorities turned into this. code:
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Ferroque posted:
Just say "child labor" and watch him scramble to justify that one.
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JohnClark posted:I'm wondering if "Jim" even exists, everything else is so crazy that I have no trouble believing that Ed is narrating your conversation for someone who only he can see. Jim is quite real. Here are some words he wrote recently: Jim posted:Observations about Gay Marriage for those who wondered:
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Ferroque posted:Jim is quite real. Here are some words he wrote recently: Hilariously, this is probably something he himself advocates. Only he probably calls it "flat tax" and says its more fair.
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quote:Marriage had a definition that did not belong to government Annnnnd, already wrong into the first sentence.
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quote:Once upon a time, Marriage was a powerful engine of economic, civil, societal and cultural growth, and educational improvement, and Jim fondly remembers when women were used as bargaining chips by their social ladder climbing families.
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Not to mention that 1890 was well before women could vote in the US, so this idea that America was at a zenith then, is at best weird.
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SpecialK2 posted:Not to mention that 1890 was well before women could vote in the US, so this idea that America was at a zenith then, is at best weird. Not if you're a white male, preferably owning land.
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