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Simulated: Sep 28, 2001; Lowtax giveth, and Lowtax taketh away.; College Slice

If someone with even rudimentary skills takes a look they can grab your keys in short order. I don't waste time trying to obfuscate.

# ? Jun 10, 2013 10:50

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# ? May 17, 2024 05:05

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
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Ender.uNF posted:

If someone with even rudimentary skills takes a look they can grab your keys in short order. I don't waste time trying to obfuscate.

I cracked an app just to see if I could (basically just found the C function that returned a bool if the app was registered, then changed the binary with a hex editor to have a NOT in there, reversing the check). It's super easy, don't waste too much time on it.

# ? Jun 10, 2013 14:25

Doh004: Apr 22, 2007; Mmmmm Donuts...

So how about that iOS 7 announcement?

# ? Jun 10, 2013 20:23

pokeyman: Nov 26, 2006; That elephant ate my entire platoon.

http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/ Hello!

# ? Jun 10, 2013 20:27

Doc Block: Apr 15, 2003; Fun Shoe

Hopefully they don't mess up with the new multitasking. I don't want Facebook killing my battery and using up my data plan just so it can be constantly pulling down updates about which cat pics my mom "liked". Nor do I want to have to manually close apps just to avoid this.

# ? Jun 10, 2013 21:02

ultramiraculous: Nov 12, 2003; "No..."; Grimey Drawer

Doh004 posted:

So how about that iOS 7 announcement?

I'm dying for the State of the Union video. The iOS APIs they had in that word cloud thing looked sweet, and I wish I had a screenshot.

# ? Jun 10, 2013 21:03

Doc Block: Apr 15, 2003; Fun Shoe

Also, LOL at new Mac Pro using AMD GPUs. Hope none of the pro users wanted CUDA.

# ? Jun 10, 2013 21:04

Doc Block: Apr 15, 2003; Fun Shoe

To not be a complete Negative Nancy, I really like iOS 7's look.

And Craig Federighi was great onstage.

# ? Jun 10, 2013 21:07

Aesion: Mar 14, 2010

Mavericks finally gets us OpenGL 4 support so that's neat

# ? Jun 10, 2013 21:10

ultramiraculous: Nov 12, 2003; "No..."; Grimey Drawer

Still can't believe they called it Mavericks. 2008 was recent enough that I still can't hear someone say that word without hearing Sarah Palin.

# ? Jun 10, 2013 21:12

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
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ultramiraculous posted:

I'm dying for the State of the Union video. The iOS APIs they had in that word cloud thing looked sweet, and I wish I had a screenshot.

This?

# ? Jun 10, 2013 21:15

ultramiraculous: Nov 12, 2003; "No..."; Grimey Drawer

The next one, with the APIs on it.

Edit: Found it, finally. This one->

# ? Jun 10, 2013 21:23

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
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sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

Ah.

Also I guess we'll be seeing session videos as they're completed. MacRumors quoting Cook in their live coverage: "10:06 am This is the biggest venue we could get, but we are posting sessions online each day."

# ? Jun 10, 2013 21:33

ultramiraculous: Nov 12, 2003; "No..."; Grimey Drawer

The automatic app updates thing has me so happy. The John McCain users who just don't update their apps for no apparent reason are the worst.

# ? Jun 10, 2013 21:44

haveblue: Aug 15, 2005; Toilet Rascal

What the hell are "geodesic polylines"?

# ? Jun 10, 2013 22:02

Xenomorph: Jun 13, 2001

ultramiraculous posted:

The automatic app updates thing has me so happy. The John McCain users who just don't update their apps for no apparent reason are the worst.

To be fair, some updates aren't the best. YouTube apps that remove caching, or audio apps that remove some codec, or some other app update that includes a changelog like "don't download this update, it breaks lots of poo poo and deletes all your stuff."

I'm guessing "auto update" can be turned off. But a "DO NOT NOTIFY ME OF UPDATES" option for individual apps would be nice.

# ? Jun 10, 2013 22:07

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
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sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

haveblue posted:

What the hell are "geodesic polylines"?

It's a maps thing, probably. Something with polygons on the surface of the earth, like making an overlay of a city or country.

# ? Jun 10, 2013 22:07

Doh004: Apr 22, 2007; Mmmmm Donuts...

pokeyman posted:

http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/ Hello!

I too have always wanted to develop using a trashcan.

# ? Jun 10, 2013 22:23

ultramiraculous: Nov 12, 2003; "No..."; Grimey Drawer

haveblue posted:

What the hell are "geodesic polylines"?

It's a line that follows the curve of the earth properly, like so. In that example, they're concentric circles with a radius large enough that they have to get projected onto a sphere to actually look right.

# ? Jun 10, 2013 22:25

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

some of the API docs are online:

Found via the Whats-New @ https://developer.apple.com/osx/whats-new/
SpriteKit (Mac): https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/mac/documentation/GraphicsAnimation/Conceptual/SpriteKit_PG/Introduction/Introduction.html
SpriteKit (iOS): https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/documentation/GraphicsAnimation/Conceptual/SpriteKit_PG/Introduction/Introduction.html

# ? Jun 10, 2013 22:55

ManicJason: Oct 27, 2003; He doesn't really stop the puck, but he scares the hell out of the other team.

I am unreasonably excited about iOS 7. It looks like it has enough new shine to keep Apple's marketshare at least the same if not growing. The background processing changes should also make my life much easier in my current project.

# ? Jun 10, 2013 22:56

Plorkyeran: Mar 22, 2007; To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed

Dev center's back up. Xcode 5 preview is out.

# ? Jun 10, 2013 22:56

NoDamage: Dec 2, 2000

NoDamage fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jun 11, 2013

# ? Jun 11, 2013 00:55

forelle: Oct 9, 2004; Two fine trout; Nap Ghost

I've had a chance to play with a new Mac Pro.

The software running in the background is mine.

It's a nice machine.

# ? Jun 11, 2013 00:58

haveblue: Aug 15, 2005; Toilet Rascal

ManicJason posted:

I am unreasonably excited about iOS 7. It looks like it has enough new shine to keep Apple's marketshare at least the same if not growing. The background processing changes should also make my life much easier in my current project.

I'm just glad all those iOS flashlight apps got Watsoned.

# ? Jun 11, 2013 01:03

Hughlander: May 11, 2005

Other than llvm-gcc any sign of anything else depreciated? (Ios 4 please).

# ? Jun 11, 2013 02:18

ultramiraculous: Nov 12, 2003; "No..."; Grimey Drawer

Hughlander posted:

Other than llvm-gcc any sign of anything else depreciated? (Ios 4 please).

iOS5 is basically depreciated. In the transition docs they only talk about supporting iOS6 and they're really heavy into AutoLayout. I guess if you buy into that slide showing iOS6 being ~95% of the market, then it makes sense.

# ? Jun 11, 2013 02:21

pokeyman: Nov 26, 2006; That elephant ate my entire platoon.

Anyone who cares about NDA: remember to verify the info you're sharing is on a publicly accessible Apple site or some other site.

# ? Jun 11, 2013 02:52

Doc Block: Apr 15, 2003; Fun Shoe

edit: whoops, forgot about NDA

# ? Jun 11, 2013 02:52

Axiem: Oct 19, 2005; I want to leave my mind blank, but I'm terrified of what will happen if I do

Dumb question from someone new to Apple development: where is it safe/kosher to discuss things that are under NDA?

# ? Jun 11, 2013 03:41

pokeyman: Nov 26, 2006; That elephant ate my entire platoon.

Possibly the Apple Developer forums?

# ? Jun 11, 2013 04:14

pokeyman: Nov 26, 2006; That elephant ate my entire platoon.

I'm loving the Crashlytics logs that say <redacted>

# ? Jun 11, 2013 04:18

Axiem: Oct 19, 2005; I want to leave my mind blank, but I'm terrified of what will happen if I do

pokeyman posted:

Possibly the Apple Developer forums?

Wait, what?

:aaaaa:

How did I not know these things existed?

# ? Jun 11, 2013 04:25

pokeyman: Nov 26, 2006; That elephant ate my entire platoon.

Axiem posted:

Wait, what?

How did I not know these things existed?

They're a bizarre combination of terrible forum and the only place certain questions get answered. Worth checking, not in my experience worth participating.

# ? Jun 11, 2013 04:28

Doc Block: Apr 15, 2003; Fun Shoe

pokeyman posted:

I'm loving the Crashlytics logs that say <redacted>

My apps don't crash :smug:

# ? Jun 11, 2013 04:30

Axiem: Oct 19, 2005; I want to leave my mind blank, but I'm terrified of what will happen if I do

pokeyman posted:

They're a bizarre combination of terrible forum and the only place certain questions get answered. Worth checking, not in my experience worth participating.

I would say that describes pretty much every forum that isn't this one, honestly.

Not that I really plan on doing things that require anything new in iOS 7--at least, not for a few months. I was contemplating doing a small project with Cocos2D, but it might be the case that Sprite Kit pretty much does that for me already, so I might have to dig into that some. (Not that I actually know; I just saw a description of it on one of the Apple News sites)

Typically, these things come off of NDA when the OS ships, right?

# ? Jun 11, 2013 04:36

ultramiraculous: Nov 12, 2003; "No..."; Grimey Drawer

pokeyman posted:

They're a bizarre combination of terrible forum and the only place certain questions get answered. Worth checking, not in my experience worth participating.

It's also 100% at its worst around this time. Theres a lot of "Apple Developers" unironically talking about deserving refunds because Apple is falsely advertising perfect access to a beta product.

Axiem posted:

Typically, these things come off of NDA when the OS ships, right?

Usually when the GM comes out, so basically yeah. That's also when you can start submitting apps targeting the new OS.

# ? Jun 11, 2013 04:52

pokeyman: Nov 26, 2006; That elephant ate my entire platoon.

Doc Block posted:

My apps don't crash

code:


0	 libobjc.A.dylib	 objc_msgSend + 5
1	 UIKit 	 <redacted> + 56
2	 UIKit	 <redacted> + 214
3	 libobjc.A.dylib	 <redacted> + 172
4	 UIKit	 <redacted> + 46
5	 libobjc.A.dylib	 <redacted> + 172
6	 UIKit	 <redacted> + 246
7	 CoreFoundation	 CFRelease + 560
8	 CoreFoundation	 <redacted> + 140
9	 libobjc.A.dylib	 <redacted> + 172
10	 libobjc.A.dylib	 <redacted> + 356
11	 CoreFoundation	 _CFAutoreleasePoolPop + 16
12	 CoreFoundation	 <redacted> + 1098
13	 CoreFoundation	 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 522
14	 CoreFoundation	 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 106
15	 GraphicsServices	 GSEventRunModal + 138
16	 UIKit	 UIApplicationMain + 1136
17	 Awful	main.m line 13  main

Fix that!

# ? Jun 11, 2013 05:18

Doc Block: Apr 15, 2003; Fun Shoe

I don't have anything to do with Awful.app

# ? Jun 11, 2013 05:24

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tarepanda: Mar 26, 2011; Living the Dream

Doc Block posted:

I don't have anything to do with Awful.app

So we could even say... none of your apps are Awful? :P

# ? Jun 11, 2013 05:26

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