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Captain Mog
Jun 17, 2011
Any news on FF: Bravely Default (ugh that name) for 3DS?

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PTizzle
Oct 1, 2008

CottonWolf posted:

Add me to the pile who thought the new Versus XIII/XV trailer looked incredible. I do get the feeling it's inevitably going to turn into Romeo and Juliet ~magical edition~, what with Noctis and Stellar. But, surprisingly, I'm completely okay with this. It turns out I've missed the ridiculous melodrama in my Final Fantasy games.

I've missed it a bit too - I just hope it's less embarrassing than the story we got dished up in XIII/XIII-2. I don't mind silliness, just no saccharine pop songs over the top is all I ask.

I didn't think the trailer looked incredible though. It looked solid - I'm still not sold on Square pulling off the gameplay to the extent it looks like they're going for. I was kinda ambivalent, but am going to try to be positive in terms of looking out for future media etc. It just felt more like a spin-off than a main series title, I guess? (Which makes sense considering it's basically Versus XIII).

And I know I'll still buy it at some point, so I guess it's just whether it's at full price or bargain bin. If Square doesn't gently caress it up I'll love them.

Proto Cloud
Feb 18, 2013

Maybe next year...
Jeez, it's hard to think of the last time I was excited for a Final Fantasy release. Has it been more than a decade now?

Just please don't gently caress this up Square. Last thing we need is EVERY game to be on iOS now.

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

SlenderWhore posted:

http://kotaku.com/holy-s-t-its-final-fantasy-versus-xiii-only-now-it-512471688

Link for those who missed it. Looks like a step in the right direction, at least, though it's a bit too early to judge. It has almost a film noir-esque vibe.

:tviv:

I'm am so loving hyped for this game right now, I don't even-

Al Baron posted:

Looks like Yoko Shimomura's on the soundtrack.

... and now I have this bizarre mental image of Noctis and his dad doing the KFC dance while Guile's Theme plays in the background. :psyduck:

PunkBoy
Aug 22, 2008

You wanna get through this?

Azure_Horizon posted:

I'm so loving excited for LR: FFXIII and XV.

So good to be a Square Enix fan right now.

:hf: I was also inspired to pop in XIII-2 again to try and get the rest of the Fragments,


Al Baron posted:

Looks like Yoko Shimomura's on the soundtrack. Makes sense since this is basically a joint by the Kingdom Hearts team.

:aaa: Even more sold!

Kanfy
Jan 9, 2012

Just gotta keep walking down that road.
In case someone has missed it, Nomura's being interviewed in the Square stream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPogSTwUREM

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Reene

PunkBoy posted:

:hf: I was also inspired to pop in XIII-2 again to try and get the rest of the Fragments,


:aaa: Even more sold!

While I love FFXIII-2, gently caress the Casino Slots Fragment.

Last Emperor
Oct 30, 2009

So pumped for both XV and KH3.

I'm guessing that if there are new FF characters Lightning will almost definitely be one of those included in KH 3.

PunkBoy
Aug 22, 2008

You wanna get through this?

Azure_Horizon posted:

While I love FFXIII-2, gently caress the Casino Slots Fragment.

I dreaded opening up the Fragment list and seeing what I was missing, and oddly enough I had already completed the Casino ones. I guess I must have scrubbed the memory from my mind.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Mazed posted:

Nor here, but good god has it been around for too long.

A kid growing up playing Square-Enix games now would have nothing but 13s offered to them throughout nearly the same timeframe we got FF4, FF6, Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, and FF7.


Immediately got that vibe as well. That was probably intentional.

While Earthbound doesn't belong in that list the timeframe would include others like Breath of Fire and the Soul Blazer trilogy.

Krad posted:

Her dad is trying to get all the crystals for some ultimate power or whatever, she's used as a ritual sacrifice, gets possessed and turns into the final boss.

Also she'll grow wings.

She's actually a memory.

Everythng is.

Then after the ending you wake up and realize you just did a 40 hour intro dream sequence and you're actually playing Lost Odyssey II and that's why the game came with three Blu-ray Discs. :fap:

Zombies' Downfall posted:

Does Final Fantasy 12 count because Matsuno and Alexander O Smith clearly have a hard-on for Shakespeare (Rosencrantz and Guildenstern in Vagrant Story) or what? Because hey that honestly doesn't change a thing for me 12 was the last new game I really enjoyed with "Final Fantasy" on the box

Also totally called this XV thing by the way like a year and a half ago, I'm not gonna read prior posts to see if somebody said a snarky thing about people saying "called it" or if some liar is going to claim to have called it before I did but that's life. That Leviathan.

All I want is the announcement that Matsuno has obtained complete ownership of the Ogre Battle and Ivalice IPs, followed by the announcement of a new Tactics Ogre (same gameplay, HD sprites) and a FFT(not FFT) prequel that takes place during Ajora's period or in the time that immediately follows Alazlam releasing the truth about the War of the Lions.

Both of which are as likely as Suikoden 6 being announced. :smithicide:

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Reene
Would Matsuno even be able to create a game like that without throwing a fit and leaving halfway through?

Kanfy
Jan 9, 2012

Just gotta keep walking down that road.

Kanfy posted:

In case someone has missed it, Nomura's being interviewed in the Square stream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPogSTwUREM

For this thread too, the new Final Fantasy XV gameplay trailer starts at 3:00:25. You can definitely tell the guy behind Kingdom Hearts is behind that game, hopefully they can pull it off well.

Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya
From the gameplay trailer I just saw, it looks like the characters managed to knock that huge sword out of an iron golem's hand and then two of them proceed to awkwardly use the sword to kill the golem.

This is going to be so much fun if it ever actually gets released.

Mischitary
Oct 9, 2007
Yeah, and also there's a part where Noctis is fighting a soldier near a car and bashes his head into the window.

Also I love that there are numbers coming off the guys when you hit them, it really makes it feel more like a Final Fantasy IMO.

Also the part where it's the same scene as in the trailer where Leviathan is attacking the city, but Noctis is in the water is really cool.

PTizzle posted:

I've missed it a bit too - I just hope it's less embarrassing than the story we got dished up in XIII/XIII-2. I don't mind silliness, just no saccharine pop songs over the top is all I ask.

Pop songs are just part of Final Fantasy now, it seems. Even FF12 had one. As far as saccharine goes, though, nothing about this game up to this point makes me think "saccharine" at all, although it may also be bad in...other ways. No way to tell just yet.

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I didn't think the trailer looked incredible though. It looked solid - I'm still not sold on Square pulling off the gameplay to the extent it looks like they're going for. I was kinda ambivalent, but am going to try to be positive in terms of looking out for future media etc. It just felt more like a spin-off than a main series title, I guess? (Which makes sense considering it's basically Versus XIII).

I never saw versus as a spin-off. The way it seems like it worked back when the Fabula Nova Chrystalis project was first unveiled was that Tetsuya Nomura and the Kingdom Hearts team was basically just told "Make Final Fantasy 13 the way you would make Final Fantasy 13". Because of this, it really wasn't developed in the way a "spin off" would be, like FF13-2 or FF10-2, where tons of assets and stuff are re-used and the ambitions are quite smaller than they were previously. I think this is ultimately why they changed it to 15.

As far as the gameplay goes, I loved KH1 and KH2, and if this is the third game by those dudes I'm sure I'll like it. The stuff with Noctis warping everywhere and just going wild on dudes seems a lot like what they were going for in KH2, where Sora would sometimes just go loving crazy sometimes.

quote:

And I know I'll still buy it at some point, so I guess it's just whether it's at full price or bargain bin. If Square doesn't gently caress it up I'll love them.

Yes! This is pretty much Square-Enix in Japan's last chance to make something truly special before just about everyone writes them off. I mean, FF13-2 was good, I think, but it wasn't really that special.

Mischitary fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Jun 11, 2013

Schwartzcough
Aug 12, 2009

Don't tease the Octopus, kids!

Azure_Horizon posted:

Would Matsuno even be able to create a game like that without throwing a fit and leaving halfway through?

I don't think it was directing alone that made him leave, if he'd actually been allowed to just direct. It sounds like there was ridiculous levels of corporate meddling, like making him change the story to add a "main character" that would appeal to Japanese teens, and generally making him change and redo things when they didn't think it would market well. That's why the game took forever to make and gave him a breakdown. It certainly meshes with what we've all heard for all their other projects in the last decade or so.

I think if he was just allowed to make the game he wanted, he'd be fine.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

Evil Fluffy posted:

While Earthbound doesn't belong in that list the timeframe would include others like Breath of Fire and the Soul Blazer trilogy.


She's actually a memory.

Everythng is.

Then after the ending you wake up and realize you just did a 40 hour intro dream sequence and you're actually playing Lost Odyssey II and that's why the game came with three Blu-ray Discs. :fap:


All I want is the announcement that Matsuno has obtained complete ownership of the Ogre Battle and Ivalice IPs, followed by the announcement of a new Tactics Ogre (same gameplay, HD sprites) and a FFT(not FFT) prequel that takes place during Ajora's period or in the time that immediately follows Alazlam releasing the truth about the War of the Lions.

Both of which are as likely as Suikoden 6 being announced. :smithicide:

When I win the 500 million dollar lottery, buddy, I'll make this happen just for you.

quote:

I think if he was just allowed to make the game he wanted, he'd be fine.

And it would have been great.

Zuhzuhzombie!! fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Jun 11, 2013

Cardboard Fox
Feb 8, 2009

[Tentatively Excited]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBilT83Uq4A
This is the gameplay everyone is talking about right?

Looks really cool, but I still have no idea how the combat system works. It almost looks like an ATB meter in the lower left corner, but it doesn't seem to move.

Is magic in the game? I didn't see it being cast. Probably just missed it though, as combat moves pretty fast.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Cardboard Fox posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBilT83Uq4A
This is the gameplay everyone is talking about right?

Looks really cool, but I still have no idea how the combat system works. It almost looks like an ATB meter in the lower left corner, but it doesn't seem to move.

Is magic in the game? I didn't see it being cast. Probably just missed it though, as combat moves pretty fast.

You see Noctus casting a fire spell on a behemoth at one point.

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



Lipstick Apathy
that man's sword is very large

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR
So are all ties to XIII gone now that it's FF XV?

Kanfy
Jan 9, 2012

Just gotta keep walking down that road.

Francois Kofko posted:

that man's sword is very large

See, it clearly is a Final Fantasy game.

CrashScreen
Nov 11, 2012

So far I'm seeing that there's a parry mechanic, there's weapon-switching, the dodge doesn't grant invincibility frames, and there's a warp. That's kinda cool.

There's a fair bit of potential in this. The combat makes me think of a combination of Monster Hunter and Devil May Cry, strangely. Is anyone else getting that vibe?

e: Also climbing on enemies hey that's kinda neat. We saw him doing that against a boss-like thing in the other trailer too.

CrashScreen fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Jun 12, 2013

Winks
Feb 16, 2009

Alright, who let Rube Goldberg in here?

Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:

So are all ties to XIII gone now that it's FF XV?

Not completely.



At least not yet.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:

So are all ties to XIII gone now that it's FF XV?

Type 0 didnt even have a main number in it and it ended up still having ties to XIII at the very end. It wouldn't surprise me if it still follows Etro's story even if its loosely.

Level Slide
Jan 4, 2011

I hope 15 gets better directing and localization compared to its parent series. None of "Your name is Noctis which means night. You are the night."

Winks
Feb 16, 2009

Alright, who let Rube Goldberg in here?

Level Slide posted:

I hope 15 gets better directing and localization compared to its parent series. None of "Your name is Noctis which means night. You are the night."

You are Batman.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Level Slide posted:

I hope 15 gets better directing and localization compared to its parent series. None of "Your name is Noctis which means night. You are the night."

I hope that is literally the first line in the game, followed immediately by "Your name is Stellar which means star. You are the stars."

Cardboard Fox
Feb 8, 2009

[Tentatively Excited]

ImpAtom posted:

You see Noctus casting a fire spell on a behemoth at one point.

Just watched it again. Yea, it's right at the 2:30 mark, I completely missed it.

I also figured out that the sword icons correspond to the sword you see him use. Duh. :doh:

ShadeofDante
Feb 17, 2007

speaking of minds! know what's on mine? murders.

Level Slide posted:

I hope 15 gets better directing and localization compared to its parent series. None of "Your name is Noctis which means night. You are the night."

Doesn't help either that in Dimensions the two "main" characters are named by this horrible convention too.

Level Slide
Jan 4, 2011

chumbler posted:

I hope that is literally the first line in the game, followed immediately by "Your name is Stellar which means star. You are the stars."

And then I hope both of them start laughing from the ridiculousness. That'll be a good start if SE is serious about delivering "believable characters".

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

ShadeofDante posted:

Doesn't help either that in Dimensions the two "main" characters are named by this horrible convention too.

Man, it's been that was since FF7. I think Zidane is the only one to escape it.

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

ImpAtom posted:

Man, it's been that was since FF7. I think Zidane is the only one to escape it.

"Your name is Zidane, it means you're a football player."

Kanfy
Jan 9, 2012

Just gotta keep walking down that road.

ImpAtom posted:

Man, it's been that was since FF7. I think Zidane is the only one to escape it.

Well, at least they acknowledged that. Sort of.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Not to mention Kingdom Hearts not only has Sora, Riku and Kairi but also Ventus, Terra and Aqua. The same poo poo twice .

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

Winks posted:

Not completely.



At least not yet.

Boy that scene there was real pretty.

Three Cookies
Apr 9, 2010


Tidus and Zidane should trade names.

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Reene

Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:

So are all ties to XIII gone now that it's FF XV?

FFXV is still embedded in the FNC mythology. Etro can be seen in one of the early Versus trailers.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

Japanese pop fiction loves having "meaningful" and ironic names due to the writing system meaning that all names have meanings that can be directly read due to kanji.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

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A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

Azure_Horizon posted:

FFXV is still embedded in the FNC mythology. Etro can be seen in one of the early Versus trailers.

Versus wasn't even a game though. We honestly have no idea how reworked the components, if many, of Vs. 13 that made it into 15 are.

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Captain Mog
Jun 17, 2011
I don't understand why some people are complaining that it "doesn't look like a Final Fantasy game" and dismissing it outright before it has even so much as been completed. A lot of the traditional FF "feel" comes from the technical limitations of the time (ie turn-based battle, an overworld, tiny characters). While it does have a certain nostalgia value to it (hell, I love classic RPGs and think they're awesome), that gaming style is a bit antiquated.

The FF games have been evolving from FF II. FFVII is incredibly different from FFIII, for example. It's like people complaining that they don't like new cars or smart phones or something. The old "Final Fantasy" games aren't going anywhere. They'll always be there, and we may even get reboots every once in a while. I like that they are trying to move the series forward and no, I don't think they're catering to the "God of War"/"Assasin's Creed" crowd (like one person on Kotaku suggested).

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