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thet0wer posted:No it wasn't. I think its because Spencer does move at a snails pace. I like his other work but that is a fair criticism of him.
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You see setting up a 50+ issue story. I see throwing poo poo at the wall and seeing what sticks.
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Jun 12, 2013 02:29
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Yeah, you don't start a series making a statement like putting Kitty Pride into top of the terrorist most wanted list and then not touch that for 11 issues. DFu4ever posted:I'm thinking of continuing with the new Spider-Man stuff, and maybe X-Men. I'm pretty sure I'll like Spider-Man, since I really dig Bendis's writing, but I'm not sure about X-Men. I like Kitty Pryde, Iceman, and Human Torch, but I'm not familiar with the creative team they have on that book. Anyone have opinions on that one? If you're going to read the new Ultimate X-Men read the first issue and then skip to 13 and marvel at the fact that apparently nothing happened in the previous 11 issues.
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Jun 12, 2013 02:51
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thet0wer posted:And with regards to X-Men, Spencer was setting up a 50+ run that was cut short at 12 issues because it was "moving too slow", a complaint partially informed by the hate-boner that some people have for Spencer. You'd think that people would have learned that lesson after the late 1990s rash of Vertigo/Wildstorm/c-list Marvel/DC books that came out and took five issues establishing the main character and then couldn't understand why they were getting canned after ten issues because IF YOU JUST STICK WITH IT UNTIL YEAR THREE OH MAN THAT THIRD ISSUE WILL BE SO GOOD. You'd think Nick Spencer would realize that given that he's a shameless Lost homage-r, and surely he watched one of the dozen shows that got greenlit post-Lost and then aired six episodes because they were so busy constructing a WORLD MYTHOLOGY that they forgot to give anyone a hook in the first three episodes. But people like Morning Glories against all odds, and so Nick Spencer has learned nothing. And the 'hate boner' seemed to extend to the Buying Public: code:
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Jun 12, 2013 03:07
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thet0wer posted:No it wasn't. I thought it was cut short because it was "poop".
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Jun 12, 2013 03:21
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Lurdiak posted:I thought it was cut short because it was "poop". I think calling it poop is being too kind to it. It just did not seem to go anywhere and it was just piling mystery upon mystery and having no real hook. Brian Wood is making the title readable again.
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Jun 12, 2013 03:24
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Spencer just made bad decision after bad decision. Some of which are mostly antithetical to the Ultimate line, such as potentially resurrecting multiple dead characters.
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Jun 12, 2013 05:18
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Edge & Christian posted:1) You shouldn't make plans for a 50+ issue run without making sure you can tell a coherent satisfying story in the 6-12 issues you're actually promised. Looks like he was finding his level at the end, there. Whether 29000ish is good enough for him to keep writing is questionable, though.
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Jun 12, 2013 15:53
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Spencer's run felt like a bunch of one shots. Then 13 drops and poo poo goes bananas. Are they going to kill the Ultimate Comics universe at some point? I mean they've wiped out Europe, part of Asia and USA has completely balkanized.
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Jun 12, 2013 17:05
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coconono posted:Spencer's run felt like a bunch of one shots. Then 13 drops and poo poo goes bananas. That's was what Ultimatum was supposed to be, but then they changed direction
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Jun 12, 2013 17:17
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I'm positive Age of Ultron and that Hunger book spinning out of it (which was originally Age of Ultron U.C.) (bet U.C. stands for Ultimate Comics) (also it's solicited with the other Ultimate books) are the beginning of the end for the Ultimate U
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Jun 12, 2013 18:05
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d00gZ posted:I'm positive Age of Ultron and that Hunger book spinning out of it (which was originally Age of Ultron U.C.) (bet U.C. stands for Ultimate Comics) (also it's solicited with the other Ultimate books) are the beginning of the end for the Ultimate U Is this just a hunch? I've read that UC stands for "Universal Constant". If you are right, I'm assuming this would work with the cliffhanger at the end of Spider-Men.
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Jun 12, 2013 18:33
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I think they'd likely keep Spider-Man running even if the other books end though.
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Jun 12, 2013 18:34
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Dacap posted:I think they'd likely keep Spider-Man running even if the other books end though. Ultimate Spider-man will end when Bendis is dead.
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Jun 12, 2013 18:39
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Sigma posted:Is this just a hunch? I've read that UC stands for "Universal Constant". The "universal constant" thing is just a Rich Johnston rumor that doesn't make any loving sense; they've repeatedly said AoU and Infinity are separate, and "universal constant" is a Hickman/Infinity thing
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Jun 12, 2013 18:52
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d00gZ posted:The "universal constant" thing is just a Rich Johnston rumor that doesn't make any loving sense; they've repeatedly said AoU and Infinity are separate, and "universal constant" is a Hickman/Infinity thing So Galactus is going to eat the Ultimate Universe and Miles is going to 616?
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Jun 12, 2013 18:54
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So Miles is going to join the X-men?
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Jun 12, 2013 18:55
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Humphries also mentioned he was writing Ultimates: Infinity at one point.
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Jun 12, 2013 19:38
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So, Age of Ultron 10 featured a panel in which Miles bumped in to 616 Galactus. That was definitely a thing. How the flip that's gonna tie in to One Year Later I have no idea.
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Jun 19, 2013 15:24
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I- Is- Is that in the wrong thread?
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Jun 19, 2013 15:32
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I dunno man. Universes appear to be colliding. Maybe the threads will too... 616 Galactus has made an appearance in the UU though (although in a 616 comic). There's talk of the UU coming to an end. This could be the start of it... Nobody seemed to be talking about it here, and I thought it might be relevant.
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Jun 19, 2013 15:38
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Age of Ultron makes more sense when you take into account the fact that it was supposed to be out last year before Now! began. With all the time fuckery in a lot of marvel titles, AoU concludes with time hella hosed and 616 Galactus in the UU. Hunger (which was called AoU #10 UC) will take place in the Ultimate universe and revolve around Galactus being in it. How it will tied to whatever the gently caress is currently going on, I have no idea. But it does look like time's running out for this universe. I'm guessing (not spoiling speculation) it'll be a mix of Galactus trying to get back and an incursion occurring between 616 and UU. Galactus gets back along with a few stragglers (Miles?) and the ultimate universe's Earth is destroyed. Ultimate Spider-Man is renamed to Amazing Spider-Man and Superior remains Superior? THAT SAID, U Spidey was pretty good today. I haven't read much of the 616 C&D but I liked their introduction. And Gwen knocking some sense in Miles' head.
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Jun 19, 2013 16:22
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Isn't it time for the Infinity Gauntlet to appear in the Ultimate universe? Could tie in.
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Jun 19, 2013 18:14
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krakagar posted:So, Age of Ultron 10 featured a panel in which Miles bumped in to 616 Galactus. That was definitely a thing. How the flip that's gonna tie in to One Year Later I have no idea. Could you drop a scan of that, if at all possible? This month's ultimate spidey seemed mostly setup, but I'm curious to see where Cloak and Dagger are heading. I have a suspicion that they're still in the unwitting employ of Roxxon, kidnapping superfolks with Cloak's abilities and dragging them back for rehabilitation / experimentation.
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Jun 19, 2013 18:21
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Mister Roboto posted:Isn't it time for the Infinity Gauntlet to appear in the Ultimate universe? I am pretty sure that is happening in The Ultimates.
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Jun 19, 2013 18:50
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Ending the Ultimate Universe and dumping Miles into 616 would be the worst thing to do for the character. He'd no longer a legacy hero and just another kid in a suit before being shuffled into Cancelled Young Heroes Team Book #15163
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Jun 19, 2013 19:03
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Waterhaul posted:Ending the Ultimate Universe and dumping Miles into 616 would be the worst thing to do for the character. He'd no longer a legacy hero and just another kid in a suit before being shuffled into Cancelled Young Heroes Team Book #15163 That or a prime candidate for Avengers Arena Season 2
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Jun 19, 2013 19:07
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Waterhaul posted:Ending the Ultimate Universe and dumping Miles into 616 would be the worst thing to do for the character. He'd no longer a legacy hero and just another kid in a suit before being shuffled into Cancelled Young Heroes Team Book #15163 It would be but if they really are set on just ending the UU (which admittedly, we don't know) it does seem like the only choice.
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Jun 19, 2013 19:08
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goldenoreos posted:That or a prime candidate for Avengers Arena Season 2 gently caress. You.
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Jun 19, 2013 19:24
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goldenoreos posted:That or a prime candidate for Avengers Arena Season 2 Him and Ganke will be part of season 2. Seriously, nothing will happen with Miles as long as Bendis has any power at Marvel.
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Jun 19, 2013 19:28
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goldenoreos posted:That or a prime candidate for Avengers Arena Season 2
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Jun 19, 2013 20:05
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Honestly, they should just give Bendis the keys to the Ultimate Universe and leave it in his hands. Yes, yes, he fouls up sometimes in 616, but it's clear to everyone that Ult. Spiderman is keeping the line alive. It's win/win. He gets to play his long-term games WITH repercussions, the 616 haters get their way, and the Ult. Line gets saved.
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Jun 19, 2013 20:05
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Cross-postHakkesshu posted:This too.
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Jun 19, 2013 20:06
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Also apparently "Anthony" Stark (Tony's tumor) was one of the Gems.
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Jun 19, 2013 20:12
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bobkatt013 posted:Him and Ganke will be part of season 2. Seriously, nothing will happen with Miles as long as Bendis has any power at Marvel. Aside from the story being really, really decompressed Ultimate Spider-man is pretty much a perfect spider-man book. Fun characters, teenage angst, dead parent - Mile Morales has it all.
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Jun 19, 2013 20:15
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MrFlibble posted:Aside from the story being really, really decompressed Ultimate Spider-man is pretty much a perfect spider-man book. Fun characters, teenage angst, dead parent - Mile Morales has it all. I know it is one of the highlights of my month. Can not believe that it has been this good for over 10 years.
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Jun 19, 2013 20:24
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Couldn't they just let Ultimate Spidey be the only Ultimate book, and occasionally do Ultimate miniseries here or there to show what else is happening in the UU?
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Jun 19, 2013 20:27
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ToastyPotato posted:Couldn't they just let Ultimate Spidey be the only Ultimate book, and occasionally do Ultimate miniseries here or there to show what else is happening in the UU?
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Jun 19, 2013 21:00
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Somebody on here, maybe d00gz, was saying that Marvel likes to play the long game with its writers on the theory that eventually they'll blow up, and when they do, Marvel will show off their attractively priced line of TPBs with that writer's name on the front. That made enough sense to me that I've been thinking that's what they're doing with Wood on UXM. Granted, Wood's not exactly low-profile but he's not a mainstream superstar either. As for Ultimates, I really do get the feeling that it's a testing ground for the movies more than anything else. Also, man, Dave Marquez's art on today's USM is just brilliant.
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ToastyPotato posted:Couldn't they just let Ultimate Spidey be the only Ultimate book, and occasionally do Ultimate miniseries here or there to show what else is happening in the UU? Spider-girl managed to stay in print for a pretty long time doing just that.
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