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DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

ˇHola SEA!


DrVenkman posted:

Exactly that. After coming off Casino Royale, which people loved, they utterly squandered it on...that. CR gives them a great jumping off point and they have no idea what to do with it. Am I right in thinking it was a victim of the writer's strike or did I just make that up?

Oh I see what you mean, I thought you were saying there was some impressive quality to the making of the film and contrasting that with how pointless it is, not saying it's impressively bad. Which is is. It sucks super, super bad.

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Glass Joe
Mar 9, 2007

cloudchamber posted:

The opening to Thunderball has everything that was great about the second half of the Connery period:
http://youtu.be/uuTUTbXPf48

...and the rest of Thunderball has everything that is terrible about the Connery period, mostly due to Kevin McClory's fetish for watersports.


Real watersports, not the R. Kelly kind.

Dissapointed Owl
Jan 30, 2008

You wrote me a letter,
and this is how it went:

TychoCelchuuu posted:

It was precisely the writer's strike: Daniel Craig describes making the movie as "hosed."

They should have just made a scriptless, plotless, fully improvised Bond film.

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.

Dissapointed Owl posted:

They should have just made a scriptless, plotless, fully improvised Bond film.
That isn't what we got?

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
In Gattaca, when Ethan Hawke's character (actual identity) comes up as a suspect, they say he has no living relatives. His parents are dead, yes, but we know the cop/brother is his living relative. Their last names should be the same, right? Why doesn't the detective know this?

BOAT SHOWBOAT
Oct 11, 2007

who do you carry the torch for, my young man?

TychoCelchuuu posted:

It was precisely the writer's strike: Daniel Craig describes making the movie as "hosed."

The problem isn't just the writing though. Casino Royale and Skyfall aren't especially well written, but Martin Campbell and Sam Mendes are good directors. Marc Forster isn't. The action scenes are just totally ineptly directed.

Friedpundit
May 6, 2009

Merry Christmas Scary Wormhole!
Re: Czech film. Is The Cremator (1969) stylistically singular, or was it part of a movement of Czech film from around that time period?

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

feedmyleg posted:

In Gattaca, when Ethan Hawke's character (actual identity) comes up as a suspect, they say he has no living relatives. His parents are dead, yes, but we know the cop/brother is his living relative. Their last names should be the same, right? Why doesn't the detective know this?

I think it is his brother that says this, covering up the info himself -- he wants to talk to his brother (Ethan Hawke) and find out what's going on rather than hand him over to the powers that be.

regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Jun 9, 2013

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:

The problem isn't just the writing though. Casino Royale and Skyfall aren't especially well written, but Martin Campbell and Sam Mendes are good directors. Marc Forster isn't. The action scenes are just totally ineptly directed.

The story in QOS is remarkably forgettable too. It's an all-round pile o' poo.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Apparently the reason the opening car chase is so weirdly edited is that there was originally one more car in it, and they decided after filming that it was too many or something and had to cut out all shots of it.

Still, overall, it's a record of that brief time in movies where people thought jumpy shaky camerawork was required in action scenes and not just one technique among many.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Friedpundit posted:

Re: Czech film. Is The Cremator (1969) stylistically singular, or was it part of a movement of Czech film from around that time period?

Juraj Herz is usually framed as being tangentially connected to, but not really a part of, the Czech New Wave of the late 60s, which was noted both for its formal experimentation and its often allegorical political critique. Depending on what stylistic factors you're thinking of, you might want to look at Valerie and Her Week of Wonders (1970) or Case for a Rookie Hangman (1970).

Edit: Though a lot of that separation is probably because of (historical and current) ethnic bias against Slovaks?

CharlieFoxtrot fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jun 9, 2013

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

How is The Cremator? It was recommended to me on Criticker and it sounded interesting.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Glass Joe posted:

...and the rest of Thunderball has everything that is terrible about the Connery period, mostly due to Kevin McClory's fetish for watersports.


Real watersports, not the R. Kelly kind.

That scene in NSNAgain where the lady water skis into the bar and says "whoops I made you all wet" is cool as heck though.

Friedpundit
May 6, 2009

Merry Christmas Scary Wormhole!

LtKenFrankenstein posted:

How is The Cremator? It was recommended to me on Criticker and it sounded interesting.

Totally bananas. A little overwrought in places, but fascinating every step of the way.

qntm
Jun 17, 2009
When measuring time in a movie, how long is a "reel"?

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

qntm posted:

When measuring time in a movie, how long is a "reel"?
Classically, about 11 minutes, assuming 24 fps. If you've seen the term `two reeler' in reference to short films, they're around 20 minutes long.

Modern films are no longer distributed on reels of this length (if they're distributed on physical reels at all), so if you're in film distribution or projection and you have in your hands a reel of film you're holding almost exactly twice as much film as the classic `reel'.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM
I think modern movies come on anywhere from 4-6 reels. Some get crazy and come in multiple cases because they're absurdly long.

NeuroticErotica
Sep 9, 2003

Perform sex? Uh uh, I don't think I'm up to a performance, but I'll rehearse with you...

qntm posted:

When measuring time in a movie, how long is a "reel"?

About 20 minutes.

Qotile Swirl
Aug 15, 2011

Alone In the Dark, A ground breaking horror game.
A reel holds 1000 feet of film, unless you're talking about a double reel, which holds 2000. Double reels are the standard nowadays and may be referred to simply as "reels", which can be ambiguous if you don't know the context.

As for how long 1000 feet of film lasts: For talkies, 1 foot of film equals 3/4 of a second, so about 11 minutes total; For late silents, 1 foot equals around 4/5 of a second, so about 13 minutes total; Early silents, 1 foot equals around 1 second, so about 16 minutes total.

That's assuming the reel is full -- it might not be. I don't know much about talkies, but for silents, they tried to position the reel breaks during intertitles, so if the projectionist missed the change-over, it would be less distracting than if the break occurred in the middle of a scene. So a "reel", in practice, can be anywhere from 800-1100 feet, and the last reel in a multi-reel feature can be significantly shorter.

qntm
Jun 17, 2009
Well, all of this is interesting, thank you. I ask because I was reading Roger Ebert's Movie Glossary and one of the entries is:

quote:

Brotman's Law

"If nothing has happened by the end of the first reel, nothing is going to happen."

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.
The Brotman in question is Oscar Brotman, of the Brotman and Sherman theatre chain. He was a big noise in film exhibition in Ebert's home of Chicago in the '50s, '60s, and '70s. He would've meant the kind of reel that's around 11 minutes.

Random trivia: Oscar Brotman's Loop Theatre hosted the world premiere of Equinox (1970), for which Brotman had ushers dressed as apes.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

Are there any movies(preferably good or interesting ones) about Genghis Khan/the mongols?

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

A human heart posted:

Are there any movies(preferably good or interesting ones) about Genghis Khan/the mongols?

There is John Wayne "classic" The Conqueror. It is interesting in a lot of diffrent ways.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

A human heart posted:

Are there any movies(preferably good or interesting ones) about Genghis Khan/the mongols?

Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure

peer
Jan 17, 2004

this is not what I wanted
There's also this which has a pretty good metacritic score. Haven't seen it, though :shobon:

Rabbit Hill
Mar 11, 2009

God knows what lives in me in place of me.
Grimey Drawer

peer posted:

There's also this which has a pretty good metacritic score. Haven't seen it, though :shobon:

I have, and it's great -- watch this one.

anticake
Nov 5, 2004

Biscuit Hider
Yeah Mongol is awesome as hell. It also purports to be the first in a trilogy, but I haven't heard anything about that in years.

A Worrying Warlock
Sep 21, 2009

Rabbit Hill posted:

I have, and it's great -- watch this one.

Seconding this, it really is an awesome film.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
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It is guaranteed to be lazy, ignorant, and/or uninformed.
I live in CHicago and they have the Gene Siskel Theater well they're showing movies in 4k but I don't know what that means. Specifically Lawrence of Arabia and Dr. Strangelove among others. Is it really worth it to go and see them in 4k?

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

Hollis posted:

I live in CHicago and they have the Gene Siskel Theater well they're showing movies in 4k but I don't know what that means. Specifically Lawrence of Arabia and Dr. Strangelove among others. Is it really worth it to go and see them in 4k?

It means go see Lawrence of Arabia.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
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It is guaranteed to be lazy, ignorant, and/or uninformed.
I've seen Lawrence of Arabia in normal movie theaters , but never 4k is it that much of a difference.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
I saw the Lawrence 4K cinema broadcast thing last year and it was amazing so yes do that.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
FEEL FREE TO DISREGARD THIS POST

It is guaranteed to be lazy, ignorant, and/or uninformed.
Okay I will.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



4K refers to the resolution of the image:



If you've seen Lawrence of Arabia in the past it was probably a 35mm print (and probably a not-well-preserved one); the digital 4K restoration will look much better and more detailed in comparison.

CharlieFoxtrot fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Jun 14, 2013

Spatulater bro!
Aug 19, 2003

Punch! Punch! Punch!

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

4K refers to the resolution of the image:



If you've seen Lawrence of Arabia in the past it was probably a 35mm print (and probably an old one); the digital 4K will look much better and more detailed in comparison.

Diagrams like that always confuse me, because they seem to imply a higher resolution necessarily means a larger screen size.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

caiman posted:

Diagrams like that always confuse me, because they seem to imply a higher resolution necessarily means a larger screen size.

I think they are meant to show that if every pixel was the same size, that's how much relative space the full image would occupy. Projected onto the same size screen as a 1080p picture (which is slightly lower effective res than 35mm I believe), pixels would be 1/4th as large making everything look much sharper and more detailed.

regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Jun 14, 2013

echoplex
Mar 5, 2008

Stainless Style
People watch DVDs on 40"+ TVs all the time and it drives me insane. They look like a loving watercolour, HOW IS THIS PREFERABLE?!

Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

For some reason I'm fascinated by the boring topics of 1. the history of film formats and technology and 2. film preservation. Does anybody know about good sites (other than Wiki) to read about this stuff? Or documentaries about them, preferably on Netflix streaming?

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

echoplex posted:

People watch DVDs on 40"+ TVs all the time and it drives me insane. They look like a loving watercolour, HOW IS THIS PREFERABLE?!

Watercolors can look pretty. I find some movies are better crisp, and some are better a little blurry. I don't like pixelation though, that's different.


My question: in Mr Holland's Opus, is the son deaf because he played music over the womb, or just random chance? Or some god's idea of punishing/testing the dad?

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Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


Mescal posted:

For some reason I'm fascinated by the boring topics of 1. the history of film formats and technology and 2. film preservation. Does anybody know about good sites (other than Wiki) to read about this stuff? Or documentaries about them, preferably on Netflix streaming?

These Amazing Shadows was supposed to be decent and is apparently on Netflix.

There's also Guardians of History which is on Youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oift1b_CwX4 I've no idea how good it is, but it's got Alan Alda!

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