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I never expected her to have an actual good reason for it, but my god to have our intelligences insulted by this drivel on top of the financial injury is beyond the pale. It's just so galling the rapaciously greedy, grasping nature of these scumbags. And to try to hide behind "whoops I misunderstood!" just aaaaaargh pisses me off even more. I'd be better with "it was an error in judgement, I overstepped badly and I am repaying it plus interest". It isn't like they could get fired for admitting they were scamming the system anyway!
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So the (interim) mayor of Montreal just got arrested by Quebec's anti-corruption squad.
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Jun 17, 2013 11:50
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colonel_korn posted:So the (interim) mayor of Montreal just got arrested by Quebec's anti-corruption squad. What a glorious way to start the week. UPAC doesn't mess around. The system works!?
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Jun 17, 2013 12:28
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What now, Toronto?  Getting the old regime's number 2 to serve as interim mayor, especially Applebaum specifically (he's a turd), was always going to be fraught with risk. It's been clear he was getting investigated for corruption for 6 months or so. Reminder: As of now, our credible candidates for mayor are: Mélanie Joly, PR exec and organiser for JT's leadership campaign. Marcel Côté, management consultant who said last year that the mafia was more democratic than student associations. Richard Bergeron, left-wing urbanist and potential truther. Denis Coderre, Denis Coderre.
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Jun 17, 2013 12:34
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Pinterest Mom posted:Richard Bergeron, left-wing urbanist and potential truther. Is he? Eh, he's still got my vote.
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Jun 17, 2013 12:37
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9/11 and moon landing truther. I really hope Projet will jettison him and someone else will take his place as mayoral candidate, but enh, I'll vote for him.
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Jun 17, 2013 12:46
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Pinterest Mom posted:9/11 and moon landing truther.
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Jun 17, 2013 13:24
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colonel_korn posted:So the (interim) mayor of Montreal just got arrested by Quebec's anti-corruption squad. Hell yes. Let's clean up this loving city.
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Jun 17, 2013 14:44
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colonel_korn posted:So the (interim) mayor of Montreal just got arrested by Quebec's anti-corruption squad.  Let's see how far this goes down the rabbit hole.
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Jun 17, 2013 14:59
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Applebaum is getting charged on 14 counts, including fraud, breach of trust, conspiracy, receiving kickbacks, and corruption. The 2011 CPC candidate in Mount Royal also got arrested, 5 charges.
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Jun 17, 2013 15:03
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Holy crap. Sounds like they're throwing the book at him. Can someone remind me what the 'tipping point' for this whole thing was? Like, it sounds like the corruption has been going on for some time now, at what point did they start hauling these assholes off?
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Jun 17, 2013 15:06
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Pinterest Mom posted:The 2011 CPC candidate in Mount Royal also got arrested, 5 charges. After losing the election, he also worked for James Moore as a "regional advisor" before resigning last year. Should make Question Period interesting as well.
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Jun 17, 2013 15:14
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Around 2008, a few journalists working for Radio-Canada, La Presse, and Le Devoir started seriously investigating the construction industry in Montréal and the suburbs, and they found Very Bad Things. The opposition, at first mostly the ADQ, started clamouring for a public inquiry into what looked like systemic corruption. The government resisted for two years, and then created the Permanent Anti-Corruption Unit, a special police unit (with hundreds of employees) dedicated to rooting out corruption in public life. These guys are the ones who have been going around arresting people. (The unit was meant to be an alternative to a public inquiry, something the government could point at and say "we couldn't possibly hold a public inquiry while there are police investigations going on." Six months later, they gave in to public pressure and help the inquiry anyway.)
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Jun 17, 2013 15:17
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Maybe it's medieval of me but I can't help but feel corruption in public life is tantamount to treason and should receive the same penalties. Shuffling public money into buying hookers? Don't you know there's a war on?!
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Paul Krugman made an interesting blog post on Canada recently that included some alarming looking graphs.quote:Worthwhile Canadian Comparison Canadians are taking on record levels of debt and using it to fund their present level of consumption. Given that the private sector is mostly hoarding money and avoiding making major new investments, and given that virtually all levels of government are seeking to cut their budgets and reduce their long term deficits, debt financed household spending is the only thing propping up our already pathetic rate of economic growth. If housing prices drop too low or go down too fast then Canadian households are gonna be left with debts they can't pay off, and the consumer spending that we're relying on to keep the economy propped up will collapse accordingly. This is not a pretty picture.
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Jun 17, 2013 15:39
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Zeeman posted:After losing the election, he also worked for James Moore as a "regional advisor" before resigning last year. Should make Question Period interesting as well. This is starting to get a lot of attention (on twitter anyways) in relation to the fact that this guy was the "shadow MP" that the Conservatives were using to try to constantly undermine Irwin Cotler last year. This might have the potential to blow up on the Conservatives in a big way, especially considering their lame attempt to make hay over that alleged Mulcair bribe attempt from 17 years ago. Also here's Paul Wells going nuclear on some guy from National Citizens Coalition, gave me a pretty good laugh. quote:Stephen Taylor @stephen_taylor 
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It's rare you see one of the twitterati going after someone like that, even if he's an opinion columnist.
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Jun 17, 2013 15:59
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When's the elections again? I'm wondering if they'll bother to put MTL under the ol' tutelle in the meantime
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Cold Fusion posted:When's the elections again? I'm wondering if they'll bother to put MTL under the ol' tutelle in the meantime Early November, and they won't, unlike Laval which had a single elected party and everyone was involved in the corruption, Montréal has multiple parties and the whole system is (in theory) not affected by these accusations (which have to do with NDG/CDN borough in particular).
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Jun 17, 2013 16:26
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So the government has yet another plan to screw with the Civil Service. http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Government+proposes+move+withhold+weeks+from+public+servants/8533342/story.html I can really afford this assholes.
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Jun 17, 2013 16:41
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In another Twitter catch, Judith Baxter is a Harper Government appointee to the Canadian Museum of Civilization board. She's also probably the source behind the letter to Trudeau about charity speaking fees. edit: Seems iPolitics is on the case. Kafka Esq. fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Jun 17, 2013 |
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Jun 17, 2013 16:56
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Kafka Esq. posted:In another Twitter catch, Judith Baxter is a Harper Government appointee to the Canadian Museum of Civilization board. She's also probably the source behind the letter to Trudeau about charity speaking fees. The second that "story" came out I immediately knew that whoever issued the complaint had to be a CPC bagman of some kind.
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sbaldrick posted:So the government has yet another plan to screw with the Civil Service. This is normal for other CC. BC Hydro does this. Upon leaving the company, you will get 2 weeks of additional pay in exchange for two weeks of no pay for new hires. for existing employees, it means a pay reduction over the year as the least disruptive option. I don't see the issue here. Are you just reading the headlines?
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Jun 17, 2013 19:14
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Am I misreading the article, or is my interpretation correct: say you make $1000 per cheque, which you are paid in full on January 1. Your next cheque, and each subsequent cheque, is reduced by $42, to $938 bimonthly, until $1000 is accrued from that $42 reduction, at which point some sort of magical mystery thing happens. Are people getting that $1000 back? The article only mentions a one-time reduction in taxable income. It also looks like there's two different things going on - switching to a staggered pay system (wherein your January 15 cheque is paid at the end of January), and then this separate clawback? There's precious little in the way of publicity around this, unfortunately.
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Jun 17, 2013 19:23
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quaint bucket posted:I don't see the issue here.
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Jun 17, 2013 19:35
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Pinterest Mom posted:What now, Toronto? Has Harel been reduced to fringe candidate status at this point?
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Jun 17, 2013 19:46
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Christy and Ali have apparently made up and are no longer fake enemies. They had coffee the other day, and they're talking. Here's to four more years of their strong leadership. 
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Jun 17, 2013 19:47
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The Dark One posted:Has Harel been reduced to fringe candidate status at this point? She's desperately looking for a way to drop out honourably. She'll probably run on a joint ticket with Marcel Côté, with her being designated as head of the executive committee.
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Jun 17, 2013 19:57
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quaint bucket posted:This is normal for other CC. BC Hydro does this. To claim it's industry standard in the private sector is misleading. From the (admittedly small) sample size of friends I asked, no one works under those type of rules (holding two weeks pay until you quit/resign/are fired/retire). It's loving disgusting in my opinion, why the hell does the company get to hold two weeks worth of pay for the entire time I work for them? What is the company going to do with the money? What happens when a company with these kinds of practices goes under? The bigger issue is why the hell wasn't the union brought into this discussion in the first place? They represent the people you're trying to impose these changes on after all.
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Jun 17, 2013 19:59
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TrueChaos posted:The bigger issue is why the hell wasn't the union brought into this discussion in the first place? They represent the people you're trying to impose these changes on after all.
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Jun 17, 2013 20:13
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I've never heard of that 'hold two weeks pay' thing at all
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Jun 17, 2013 20:15
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sbaldrick posted:So the government has yet another plan to screw with the Civil Service. that article posted:...the $9 billion in cash it will recover from employees’ paycheques that it doesn’t have to spend in 2014. How much do you want to bet that if this goes through, the one-time influx of cash (which is really just a deferment of a payment that will have to be made in the future) will be used to justify the CPC's economic policies similar to the Harris government selling off crown assets in Ontario and claiming a balanced budget?
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Jun 17, 2013 20:17
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DynamicSloth posted:Money has a time value, stealing from your employees to inflate your bottom line ain't novel but that don't make it ethical. Really? You're not getting 2 weeks pay from the beginning into the end. You're getting paid at the present value if you were to leave the company today. Let me explain this to make it easier. Joe started work at a company. They withheld 2 weeks of Joe's pay ($2400/biweekly). Joe stays with the company for 7 years. During those 7 years, Joe has been earning raises competing with inflation not withstanding any significant change in his position. Today, Joe found a new career opportunity with a different company. Joe put his two weeks notice in and worked for the company while he continues to get his regular rate of pay of $2700/biweekly. 2 weeks after Joe's last day, he gets his final direct deposit in his bank account for $2700 from his old company. Don't give me that "time value" crap. You're just lying to yourself. TrueChaos posted:To claim it's industry standard in the private sector is misleading. From the (admittedly small) sample size of friends I asked, no one works under those type of rules (holding two weeks pay until you quit/resign/are fired/retire). Ignoring anecdote evidence. From what I've understand, companies have started adopting this practice about a few years ago. My company is not one of them but I'm not against the idea of going through it of necessary. As for what the company is going to do with the money, maybe the better question would be, "why would they do this?" I think it's a fantastic idea because it doesn't just help the customer but help the employees as well for down the road. Face it, a lot of people are living paycheck to paycheck. This is a good thing for them if they were let go, fire, or quit. The unions were probably not involved because it wasn't in their contract and was a payroll change; therefore, FTU.  it's just a lot of noise looking for a fight on a non-issue.
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Jun 17, 2013 20:18
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In other news, maybe I just haven't been paying close enough attention, but I can't remember ever hearing about Harper's government pushing the idea of a two party system, on top of the usual "the senate is good!"
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Jun 17, 2013 20:21
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quaint bucket posted:Ignoring anecdote evidence. From what I've understand, companies have started adopting this practice about a few years ago. My company is not one of them but I'm not against the idea of going through it of necessary.
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Jun 17, 2013 20:22
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lonelywurm posted:So you're going to ignore his anecdote and use your own instead? I don't think that's how that's supposed to work. His anecdote was "I talked to a couple of my friends" mine was a large crown corporation (BC Hydro) that has been doing it for quite some time which is fact! Surprisingly, the world hasn't ended!
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Jun 17, 2013 20:25
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quaint bucket posted:His anecdote was "I talked to a couple of my friends" mine was a large crown corporation (BC Hydro) that has been doing it for quite some time which is fact! That's... not how anecdotes work.
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Jun 17, 2013 20:35
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Brent Rathgeber posted:Overall, I have no regrets. By resigning from the CPC Caucus, more doors have opened for me than closed. There is speculative talk about starting a new political party and even reviving old ones. I have been offered speaking gigs (albeit no one has offered me $20,000)! I would welcome the opportunity to address university students or anyone else who is interested in democratic reform, especially the current imbalance between the executive and legislative branches of government. I am not interested in leading a party; I am, however, interested in contributing to a discussion on how to improve our parliamentary democracy. That discussion is desperately needed. (Clearly he means the United Farmers.)
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Jun 17, 2013 20:48
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I hope they call it Refooooooorm
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The Wii Party: Withered Political Points that allows them to still play to the old emotions of the PCers, Reformers and even borrows from the Chateau Clique!
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