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Personally I like how it seems like all Disaster Masters are cyclops. (I know we've only seen two but two out of two means the odds are in my favor)
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Tardigrade posted:When will we get to see Noisemaster's character profile, come to think of it? She says she doesn't know if she wants to do one, since she doesn't want new readers to know about him immediately.
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Jun 16, 2013 22:25
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She could make separate character profile pages for each chapter.
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Jun 16, 2013 22:33
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Calaveron posted:Personally I like how it seems like all Disaster Masters are cyclops. I was half expecting more eyes as they went up in count. Little disappointed!
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Jun 17, 2013 15:26
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Yasser Arafatwa posted:I was half expecting more eyes as they went up in count. Little disappointed!
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Jun 17, 2013 16:12
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I've been following this comic for a little bit now and I think it's a fun and light romp but I can't help but be put off by the Noisemaster's "yo, yo, homey that's wack!" sorta faux-urban speak. It kind of rings of cultural appropriation used only for humor. I'm not decrying racism or anything of the like, but seeing ebonics played for laughs takes me right back to the same issue I had with Tiny Tina in Borderlands 2. It feels like a cheap way to get a laugh.
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Jun 18, 2013 07:29
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I don't read it as ebonic culturally appropriated from African-American people. I read it as DJbonic culturally appropriated from musicians trying too hard to be cool.
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Jun 18, 2013 08:25
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I figured he was a Beastie Boys clone.
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Jun 18, 2013 08:27
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Kaja Rainbow posted:Like the golems in Hoshi no Samidere? Precisely!
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Jun 18, 2013 08:31
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The GIG posted:I figured he was a Beastie Boys clone. It's this, dude. Noisemaster is like a rapper and a hype man.
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The GIG posted:I figured he was a Beastie Boys clone. The author has been quoted as saying she hears their voice for some of his dialogue, so yeah.
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Jun 18, 2013 11:58
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Who cares about a few slang words? The real issue here is this comic's unforgivable fat-shaming and oppression of vegans. I mean, a Doughnut Kingdom!?
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Really Pants posted:Who cares about a few slang words? The real issue here is this comic's unforgivable fat-shaming and oppression of vegans. I mean, a Doughnut Kingdom!? The Melody Kingdom is nothing but deaf-shaming. And TONE deaf-shaming.
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Jun 18, 2013 18:19
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Vanderdeath posted:I've been following this comic for a little bit now and I think it's a fun and light romp but I can't help but be put off by the Noisemaster's "yo, yo, homey that's wack!" sorta faux-urban speak. It kind of rings of cultural appropriation used only for humor. I'm not decrying racism or anything of the like, but seeing ebonics played for laughs takes me right back to the same issue I had with Tiny Tina in Borderlands 2. It feels like a cheap way to get a laugh. I've been feeling the same way about Noisemaster, but haven't been able to put it in to words. His dialogue just doesn't feel right to me.
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Jun 18, 2013 18:35
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The GIG posted:I figured he was a Beastie Boys clone. http://cucumber.gigidigi.com/cq/page-345/ I remember that exchange from Parappa the Rapper in one of his songs so I always hear it in Parappa's voice 
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Jun 18, 2013 20:10
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Dragongem posted:http://cucumber.gigidigi.com/cq/page-345/ It will forever bother me that there wasn't the third "Say Oh, Oh, Oh!!" "Oh, Oh, Oh," on that page. It's not right. It's not!
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Jun 18, 2013 20:54
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http://cucumber.gigidigi.com/cq/page-355/ I want my own hoverchair. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pHhgO918Iw&t=221s
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Jun 18, 2013 23:55
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I like how the dialogue is basically confirming Noisemaster's got a partner in crime! I suspected it, but this just further cements the idea.
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Jun 19, 2013 03:28
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Oh for God's sake. Noisemaster is talking in generic hip-hop or club scene slang. Those are not ebonics. At all. How is that any more offensive than if his name was Metalmaster and he talked in DUDE THIS IS SO BRUTAL CHECK THIS OUT IT'S GONNA MELT YOUR FACE OOOOOOOFF metal-head speak? Or even the way Saturday talks in a deep south accent and slang? Hint: it's not. V: She said on Twitter she writes Noisemaster specifically to imitate the Beastie Boys. Also hnnnggg yes linguistics 
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AAVE (or "ebonics") has a very specific phonological and grammatical structure. This can be settled using linguistic analysis Here is some sample data of how Noisemaster speaks (A). "Check it: my boy and me? Mad schemin' up in here! We got a plan so ill, it'll put you in a hospoital!" (B). "Say what?! You know splash is wack, homie!" (C). "Yooooo, ice cold! I'm tellin' you, man, it's all good!" It's very similar to the grammar and morphology of AAVE (as codified by Fickett in 1972) but there are differences. Going in order of appearance. "It'll" in (A) is a contraction that wouldn't be found in AAVE according to Fickett. Since it contracts "it" and "will;" and "will" as a tense marker isn't found in AAVE. (Instead, the clitic "a-" is used. "I'm a-go over there." for the immediate future, and "gonna" is used for the indefinite future. "I'm a-gonna go over there" is for the post-indefinite or distant future. "Not now, but in a moment" would be used to make that distinction in Standard American English.) Another difference is in the present tense, in (B) and (C). The present tense in AAVE is "[Subject] be [verb]in' [object]." Furthermore, the copula ("to be" words, to be distinguished from homphones used as part of tense marking) is often dropped in the present tense. So the present tense phrases in (B) and (C) would be "You be knowin' Splash is wack, homie!" and "I be tellin' you, man, it all good!" respectively. Now, while this does mean that what Noisemaster is speaking isn't AAVE, it doesn't necessarily mean that it isn't intended to sound that way. A lot of "beastie boy" speak is often the product of white people trying to imitate AAVE. It could be that Gigi was intending it to be AAVE but simply didn't do research and ended up with "beastie-boy" speak by accident. (edit: just to be clear, that last paragraph is just an attempt to sound impartial. I wouldn't have written a loving linguistics essay proving that he isn't speaking AAVE if I was still going to try and say that ggdg is being racist, like, really) QueerPope fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Jun 19, 2013 |
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Jun 19, 2013 06:57
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It's not an accident. Even if she hadn't said so, it just makes more sense for him to be a loud, boisterous party-boy than some kind of racial caricature or whatever.
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Jun 19, 2013 07:03
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As an English major I love you QueerPope.
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For gently caress's...it's stupidly evident she was going for Beastie Boys rather than racism. Although it resulted in a goddamn linguistics analysis of ebonics which I never actually thought existed so thank you for that. But shut up anyway. It's been said time and again but these colors are so pretty. It proves there's no such thing as a bad color combination if you can work the pallete.
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Jun 19, 2013 09:23
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I'm pretty sure Noisemaster is in fact infamous LPer, P-Bat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BhRLs1uZQA
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I'm so glad there's a conversation about ebonics in this thread about a cute bunny comic. Anyway I love Nightmare Knight's disappointed "Noisemaster." in panel two. You can just tell that's he's done this exact song and dance so many times before.
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Jun 19, 2013 13:25
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Is there any way someone can do an avatar of the last Noisemaster image in the latest comic? He's so pretty.
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Jun 19, 2013 13:32
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Comin' at ya, Big Man!
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majormonotone posted:I'm so glad there's a conversation about ebonics in this thread about a cute bunny comic. I really, really, really like how she does the Nightmare Knight. He just seems like a pretty cool dude who just happens to conquer the world or something . I'm really interested to see what role he plays in the grand scheme of things.
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I think it would be pretty neat if the Knight is obligated to do this whole song and dance, just like how Cucumber is pretty much following through on a plot he really doesn't want to maybe the knight is forced to do the whole end the world shtick every time someone collects the orbs.
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Stormgale posted:I think it would be pretty neat if the Knight is obligated to do this whole song and dance, just like how Cucumber is pretty much following through on a plot he really doesn't want to maybe the knight is forced to do the whole end the world shtick every time someone collects the orbs. Double Night has a jerkdad just like Cucumber who harangues him every time the orbs are put together.
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Jeez, my first thought upon Noisemaster's reveal was "wow, already this guy is a lot more competent than Splashmaster was", and so far he hasn't given any evidence to the contrary either. Nightmare Knight is just being a jerk to him for no good reason. Why does he have to be mean like that? It's almost like he's the villain of this webcomic or something  I bet Noisemaster would have rocked that limbo contest, too.
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loquacius posted:Jeez, my first thought upon Noisemaster's reveal was "wow, already this guy is a lot more competent than Splashmaster was", and so far he hasn't given any evidence to the contrary either. That's not much of a bar to clear tho.
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loquacius posted:I bet Noisemaster would have rocked that limbo contest, too. How low can your pitch go?
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Jun 21, 2013 15:18
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Depends, are we counting autotune?
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loquacius posted:I bet Noisemaster would have rocked that limbo contest, too. Dias posted:That's not much of a bar to clear tho.
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Jun 21, 2013 19:39
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http://cucumber.gigidigi.com/cq/page-356/ more Noisemaster and Double Night, now with ocarina balloon.
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New comic! http://cucumber.gigidigi.com/cq/page-357/ The plot thickens.
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That's actually worryingly sinister for CQ. The lack of Gigi's commentary only adds to the effect.
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Jun 26, 2013 00:45
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Hey, actually downright menacing moment in CQ, howyadoin'.
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And with this, Noisemaster regains my hope of becoming a good character.
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