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PittTheElder posted:And probably the Gypsies I guess. Probably? It's the one thing everyone agrees on there.
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I'm guessing they drink nothing but samogon in Belarus, but what the are they chugging in Armenia?
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redscare posted:I'm guessing they drink nothing but samogon in Belarus, but what the are they chugging in Armenia? Dusseldorf posted:Countries in Europe not covered in heavy fog.  The fact that some countries simply disappear was on purpose though, I wanted to make the differences really stand out. Looks a bit silly on that map I suppose, given how few countries are really visible.
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redscare posted:I'm guessing they drink nothing but samogon in Belarus, but what the are they chugging in Armenia?
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If it's just the various distilled liquors of each country, wouldn't it be under the spirits map instead of 'others'?
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 Fun map made by a prolific, but rather random, mapper of OTL thing on the Althist discussion board.
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PrinceRandom posted:
Why is Sweden grey? It's had a few female monarchs.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Why is Sweden grey? It's had a few female monarchs. I'm assuming monarchs don't count or else the UK would be purple.
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computer parts posted:I'm assuming monarchs don't count or else the UK would be purple. Yeah, I would guess it's probably elected HoG's. But I might be able to find where I got it from to clarify. Edit: From his DA (The above map shows countries that have or had Female Leaders, that is Elected or Appointed Heads of State and/or Heads of Government (IE not Monarchs) in modern history.)
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PrinceRandom posted:
But there's never been a female Premier of the People's Republic of China.
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computer parts posted:I'm assuming monarchs don't count or else the UK would be purple. Why is China pink then?
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computer parts posted:I'm assuming monarchs don't count or else the UK would be purple. Also Japan, Hungary, the Netherlands, Spain, and Portugal would be pink. Also a lot of other places depending on how far you want to go back.
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Ammat The Ankh posted:But there's never been a female Premier of the People's Republic of China. Soong Ching-ling served as the President for number of times according to http://www.wikigender.org/index.php/Female_Heads_of_State Edit: Huh, apparently there is a wiki list and map. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elected_or_appointed_female_heads_of_state PrinceRandom fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Jun 18, 2013 |
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Ammat The Ankh posted:But there's never been a female Premier of the People's Republic of China. Song Qingling for about served as an acting head of state a few times. E;f,b
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Song Qingling for about served as an acting head of state a few times. She was honorary president for 12 days in 1981.
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Dusseldorf posted:She was honorary president for 12 days in 1981. The wiki list also includes her almost 4 years as Co-Chairperson from 68-72.
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Something to throw out when Hilary Clinton runs in 2016 and the media inevitably say "Hurp is Mrca ready for a female President?" Yeah I think if all those Latin American, Asian, and even  Muslim countries can handle it, the US can.
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Ammat The Ankh posted:But there's never been a female Premier of the People's Republic of China. What about Empress Dowager Cixi?
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Plutonis posted:What about Empress Dowager Cixi? Not the PRC. Austria and Hungary get marked for Maria Theresa, after all.
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America needs to be pink to honor the legacy of Nancy Reagan, our worst female president.
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Phlegmish posted:Moldova is determined to be the worst European country in everything. Not everything.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy1B3agGNxw
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ErichZahn posted:America needs to be pink to honor the legacy of Nancy Reagan, our worst female president. She's no Edith Wilson to be sure.
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Dusseldorf posted:She was honorary president for 12 days in 1981. The power structure of the PRC has occasionally been... complicated, to say the least. Essentially the presidency technically didn't exist for a couple decades because Mao was loving weird, but she and her co-vice chair performed many of the duties that had traditionally been performed by the president.
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Ah yes, Song Qingling's deathbed honorary presidency. A great moment for empowered women in China. She was 88 years old and already in bed dying when they gave her a meaningless title because she was Sun Yat-sen's widow and a symbol of legitimacy. To give you an idea of the importance of the title, it was created for that occasion, never used before or since, and has no authority or responsibilities. It was a title specifically created for an octogenarian dying in bed whose husband was important 50 years ago. China has been moving backward on women's rights and women's empowerment ever since the 1980s unfortunately.
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Guavanaut posted:If it's just the various distilled liquors of each country, wouldn't it be under the spirits map instead of 'others'? TinTower posted:Not everything.
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Mister Adequate posted:Something to throw out when Hilary Clinton runs in 2016 and the media inevitably say "Hurp is Mrca ready for a female President?" Yeah, but on the other hand it's Hilary Clinton.
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On the same topic, I made this: Interesting to see the US and UK rank behind such progressive nations as Iraq, Afghanistan and Sudan.
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Purno posted:On the same topic, I made this: Iraq, Afghanistan and Sudan have quotas that force the government to allow women into parliament. In Afghanistan, at least sixty-eight members of the lower house must be women. In Iraq and Sudan, at least a quarter of parliament must be female. There are similar quotas for ethnic and religious minorities.
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The US should be Red because it doesn't have a parliament.
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computer parts posted:The US should be Red because it doesn't have a parliament. That's not really true. America doesn't have a parliamentary system since the executive branch is not entirely dependent on the legislature, but the United States Congress is still a (bicameral) parliament in the general sense of the word. Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Jun 18, 2013 |
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computer parts posted:The US should be Red because it doesn't have a parliament. A lot of countries don't by that narrow definition. Japan? Diet China? National People's Congress Mexico? Congress of the Union Or you could use the other meaning as "any legislative body" and not simply something from the Westminster system.
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Phlegmish posted:That's not really true. America doesn't have a parliamentary system since the executive branch is not entirely dependent on the legislature, but the United States Congress is still a (bicameral) parliament in the general sense of the word. I was being cheeky but specifically the Congress is a reaction to the idea of a Parliament. It's a legislative body but strictly is not a parliament.
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computer parts posted:I was being cheeky but specifically the Congress is a reaction to the idea of a Parliament. It's a legislative body but strictly is not a parliament. How is it not? Edit- is this another one of those American things where they refuse to use the normal definitions of words like "America is a republic not a democracy". marktheando fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Jun 18, 2013 |
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marktheando posted:How is it not? No, the Parliament is meant to be the end-be all legislative body. A Congress is a collection of self governing bodies who meet and (occasionally) agree to follow certain actions. Basically like the UN, except more formalized with some balance of power. The idea is that the states are individual...well, states (countries) which make a body to govern, while a parliament is by definition the highest form of law making in the country.
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marktheando posted:How is it not? Well, going of the OED's definitions: 1. A formal conference or council, esp. an assembly of magnates summoned (usually by a monarch) for the discussion of some matter or matters of general importance. Now hist. except as an earlier stage of sense 2, into which, in later use, it merged. (This is labeled "historical" and does not apply) 2. The supreme executive legislature of the United Kingdom, consisting of the Sovereign, the House of Lords, composed of peers and bishops, and the House of Commons, composed of the elected members. (clearly not applicable to the U.S. Congress). 3. The title of the corresponding legislative bodies in other countries. Formerly: applied to the legislative assemblies of Scotland and Ireland, and the local deliberative assemblies of some British colonies (now hist.). In modern use: the title of the legislative bodies of certain other countries (esp. former British dependencies, as Australia, Canada, etc.). Also applied to the modern Scottish assembly, and, more generally, to the legislative assemblies of other countries, as France, Germany, Russia, etc. (cf. also sense 5). (European Parliament n. at European adj. and n. Special uses 2b.) These are then followed by several irrelevant definitions. The meaning I get from their definitions is that they consider legislative bodies called "Parliament" to be parliaments. Their definition for "congress" is similar and they do discuss many of the behaviors of Congress (e.g., two year terms). So, while a country is free to call its legislative assembly whatever it wants, it seems there are some typical properties of parliaments and congresses that differ. Parliaments tend to exist in systems with separate heads of state and government, the executive is dependent on the legislature, and a given parliament exists for an indeterminate term. Congresses tend to exist in systems with a unified executive (although there are counter-examples) that is independent of the legislature and the congress tends to have a fixed term.
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PrinceRandom posted:
Including France is not really right, Edith Cresson was named Prime Minister by President François Mitterand, and since it wasn't a cohabitation he was the one who really had power.
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computer parts posted:No, the Parliament is meant to be the end-be all legislative body. A Congress is a collection of self governing bodies who meet and (occasionally) agree to follow certain actions. Basically like the UN, except more formalized with some balance of power. ...OK so it is an American definition. In the UK the House of Commons (parliament) is the lower chamber and the House of Lords can send bills back. For much of history the monarch could refuse to sign a bill into law. There is also the Scottish parliament which has its power limited to certain areas. The word parliament implies nothing about being the highest form of power. In theory the UK parliaments gets all its power from the monarch anyway. Yes the short version is that they are two words meaning the same thing, an assembly of politicians who meet to vote on laws and things.
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Nobody cares what you call your particular poorly arranged legislative body in whatever country it exists in, they are likely all terrible.
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marktheando posted:Yes the short version is that they are two words meaning the same thing, an assembly of politicians who meet to vote on laws and things. Yes, the same way pickup-truck and wheelbarrow mean the same thing, a wheeled container for transporting things.
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