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efb goddamn it gladstone here my post anyways fucker ₮ĦųΠđĘЯ†ΉΈΊ₣ (@THNDRTHF) has shared a Tweet with you: "Navjosh: Hip Hop N More: Video: Freddie Gibbs - 'Eastside Moonwalker' http://t.co/30g8WwxD0e" --http://twitter.com/Navjosh/status/346810826361016320
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What's this thread's opinion on Cage? I really really like his verse on this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpZ5OHt38b4 but I haven't really heard much of his own stuff. What's a good album of his to get into?
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Jun 18, 2013 04:53
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Previous Jesus posted:What's this thread's opinion on Cage? I really really like his verse on this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpZ5OHt38b4 but I haven't really heard much of his own stuff. What's a good album of his to get into? Hell's Winter is one of my favorite albums, so I'd start there. Also leak bros I guess but that's more of an acquired taste.
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Jun 18, 2013 04:55
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temple posted:Camron is filming a movie Not the Killa Season 2 I was hoping for.
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Jun 18, 2013 06:26
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I said last week that I wasn't sure if there was a best rapper in the game right now. Who was I kidding? It's obviously Gangsta Gibbs.
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Jun 18, 2013 08:14
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Eastside Moonwalker is amazing. I'm just now getting really serious about exploring hip-hop and Gibbs is showing me promise in my search. However, any other recommendations of some artists that are really good right now? Like I said, I'm pretty new to this hip hop ordeal, but I've fell in love with ScHoolboy Q, A$AP Rocky, Odd Future, and Kendrick Lamar which I realize are pretty mainstream artists, but its a fine place to start. I'm sure there are better things if I dig deep, but I'm just wondering where I should start digging.
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Jun 18, 2013 09:21
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Afrika Bambaataa / Zulu Nation good place to start.
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Jun 18, 2013 09:36
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RiFF RAFF is the best rapper of the year so, he's a good place to start too.
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Jun 18, 2013 09:50
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DinoCzar posted:Eastside Moonwalker is amazing. Danny Brown, action bronson, joey badass, Raider klan, Kevin gates, flatbush zombies, underachievers, chance the rapper, currensy. Try looking at the producers from your favourite songs and check out other poo poo they've done or just check out the features. A lot of older artists have released good albums recently too (ghostface, rugged man, prodigy) E. Big Krit, Lil B. Blah there's way too many but I reckon that's a good list to get you started asap-salafi fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Jun 18, 2013 |
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Jun 18, 2013 09:51
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DinoCzar posted:Eastside Moonwalker is amazing. Get Jay Rock - Come Back Home He's my favourite black hippy. Bout it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmsP6U-UkpI Hood Gon Love It - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOpjusxCSJY Say Wassup - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2XmMQm5F_0
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Jun 18, 2013 10:00
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Jay Rock is severely underrated. I think he had my favorite verse of last year on Money Trees.
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All they want is Gunplay! I listen to a lot of him and a lot of Lil' B (whose new mixtape drops today!). http://www.datpiff.com/profile/LilBtheBasedGod A Concrete Divider fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Jun 18, 2013 |
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Jun 18, 2013 13:24
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Obligatory "Gibbs totally owns" post. Professor Funk posted:Jay Rock is severely underrated. I think he had my favorite verse of last year on Money Trees. Really? I listened to his only album and found it underwhelming, though code red is a sick beat. Are his mixtapes better?
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Jun 18, 2013 14:14
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Omerta posted:Obligatory "Gibbs totally owns" post. Black Friday (2010 mixtape) is really good. He really kind of came into his own after Black Hippy formed in 09. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um5T1CLkx6Q
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Jun 18, 2013 14:39
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Omerta posted:Obligatory "Gibbs totally owns" post. Jay Rock - Yola https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBylbdJI0oQ Rock owns. e: Freddie Gibbs - Rep To The Fullest (ft. Jay Rock): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWAWeMI_8s8 Gladstone fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Jun 18, 2013 |
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Jun 18, 2013 14:40
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I like Rock a lot because he's so different stylistically from the other guys in Black Hippy. Unfortunately, that's kind of why he gets overlooked, because he's so different that people sometimes just forget he's associated with them.
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Jun 18, 2013 14:42
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Professor Funk posted:I like Rock a lot because he's so different stylistically from the other guys in Black Hippy. Unfortunately, that's kind of why he gets overlooked, because he's so different that people sometimes just forget he's associated with them. Yeah agreed. He also frequently kills it as a feature. One of my fave Jay verses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqaICbBS3ng
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Jun 18, 2013 14:45
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Jay Rock definitely killed it on Money Trees. God, that is such a great song.
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Jun 18, 2013 14:46
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thathonkey posted:Jay Rock definitely killed it on Money Trees. God, that is such a great song. The last bar of that verse is my favorite on the entire album "In the streets with a heater under my dungarees / Dreams of me gettin shaded under a money tree" So perfect
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Jun 18, 2013 14:47
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EATIN SHRIMP posted:Really? Kanye is going to sell more in the first week than the two of them combined do over a year. Kanye's expected to sell 500,000 this week. That's really sad, considering he released an album 10 songs long.....and that J Cole's album is already better than his and I'm only on track 3. (New Slaves is totally one of my favorite songs though)
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Jun 18, 2013 15:05
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Yuzenn posted:That's really sad, considering he released an album 10 songs long.....and that J Cole's album is already better than his and I'm only on track 3. Born Sinner might be a better rap album, but in no way is it a more interesting release than Yeezus is.
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Jun 18, 2013 15:07
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Ye's album is definitely more interesting of an album, but this is no MBDTF...it's more like a very dark 808's and Heartbreaks. Some tracks are overly auto-tuned, and he really dropped the ball on Strange Fruit, it feels like Otis in the fact that he could have taken a classic and really put his own stamp on it, even take it in a New Slaves direction. Unfortunately (and believe me, I still like Otis) it just feels off pace with the rest of the album and very strangely paced. I Am a God is also pushing the limits of how much hubris I can take from a rapper. I grew up on the NY bravado drenched rap, and still no one went this far. On the other hand, Cole's album is so much more relate-able to all different types of people. Power Trip, Crooked Smile and other songs all paint a picture for the vast majority of people on this planet who are just looking to find their way in life and he is acknowledging not only the struggle, but the fact that we are all not perfect. Plus he is rhyming with a passion I don't remember hearing since Reasonable Doubt. This album is really Cole's masterpiece, and the only other album that's gonna top it to me is Jay-Z's Magna Carta. (I know Yeezus will sell more, but that doesn't tell the truth). Yuzenn fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Jun 18, 2013 |
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Jun 18, 2013 15:19
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Its sad that people are tricked into thinking that Kanye is the real hip hop artist changing the game right now, the mainstream will never know what they are missing with J. Cole and Jay Z, who are the real voice of the underground rap community.
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animal drums posted:Its sad that people are tricked into thinking that Kanye is the real hip hop artist changing the game right now, the mainstream will never know what they are missing with J. Cole and Jay Z, who are the real voice of the underground rap community. This is the best post. Also, at the risk of starting a Kanye debate, I think you missed the point of "I Am A God" Yuzenn. Also, I imagine Kanye is getting the exact reaction he wanted to the use of the Strange Fruit sample. I do really like Born Sinner, though. Professor Funk fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Jun 18, 2013 |
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Jun 18, 2013 15:29
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Professor Funk posted:The last bar of that verse is my favorite on the entire album I concur. Dreams of me getting shaded under a money tree. It's perfect.
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gently caress me, the new Gibbs stuff from the last few pages is amazing, Eastside Moonwalker  Dude is killing it, wouldn't expect anything less after #BFK. Been listening to that new Kanye, pretty cool. Mad poo poo. New Lil B today, tape is 34 tracks long 
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Jun 18, 2013 15:35
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Deniro Farrar just released The Patriarch II for $1  http://denirofarrar.bandcamp.com/
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Professor Funk posted:This is the best post. Oh I would love a good debate! My issues with the song mostly revolve around the chorus: "I am a god Hurry up with my drat massage Hurry up with my drat ménage Get the Porsche out the drat garage I am a god Even though I'm a man of God My whole life in the hands of God So y'all better quit playing with God" He's played with the duality of being a very "god" like figure in music, while being a man of god before....but Jesus Walks was done SO much better than this. Sometimes Ye loses self control and hubris takes over and his mouth gets away from him. This track has that feeling. And with the Blood on the Leaves song, the Bridge goes in a direction that I just don't understand and the lyrics just don't highlight the subject matter and visual emotion that Strange Fruit intentionally put across way back in 1939. It strikes me as an Amber Rose dig, and after 808's and Heartbreaks, I think we got the point. Instead of moving towards the New Slaves and Black Skinhead themes that this album quickly and masterfully created that strive to keep racial and socioeconomic struggles in the forefronts of our minds, he takes a sharp diversion in both two back into angry place about his own success and lavish lifestyle. It becomes quickly unrelate-able and falls into the usual and easy hip hop trap about money cars and girls that is poisoning the genre. All of those things are intertwined in rap but they are over-done and cheap. Again, I really do like these songs but I have the feeling these could have done SO much more and been so much better....
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Yuzenn posted:Oh I would love a good debate! My issues with the song mostly revolve around the chorus: I think the point of the track is that it's a crazy, paranoid pep talk to himself. Hence the incoherent screaming at the end.
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Jun 18, 2013 16:12
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As far as Magna Carta Holy Grail goes, I'm curious to see how it's received. If this deal with Samsung is deemed a success by both parties, then this could change the way albums are distributed in the future. Jay's deal with Samsung was a $20 million Roc Nation deal, and it cost then $5 million to buy a million copies of his album, so presumably theyre going to do something similar in the future with either Jay or another Roc Nation artist?
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Jun 18, 2013 16:12
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Is there a reason as to why Jay Rock did not release an album last year like the rest of BH? Dude missed out on some serious publicity.
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Jun 18, 2013 16:17
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Yuzenn posted:Again, I really do like these songs but I have the feeling these could have done SO much more and been so much better.... I feel the same way except Blood is my favorite track, though you have a good point about it being a weird departure from the earlier themes of the album. But does it necessarily cheapen the experience? When another song has "eatin asian pussy / need sweet and sour sauce" as a line, I am inclined to say no. That line sounds like some poo poo that would wind up on Action Bronson's cutting room floor as not clever nor funny enough. But a lot of people are eating it up in the Kanye thread so  who am I to judge?
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Jun 18, 2013 16:18
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Freddie Gibbs' ESGN artwork and tracklist http://howflyhiphop.com/2013/06/18/freddie-gibbs-esgn-artwork-tracklist/ Jay Rock Feature 
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Yuzenn posted:Oh I would love a good debate! My issues with the song mostly revolve around the chorus: Don't just listen to the lyrics, listen to the music. It is not a triumphant song. It's not an arrogant song. If anything, it's a song about Kanye's insecurity and self-doubt. He's saying "I am a God" as though he is trying to convince himself and others of his greatness. He's not saying "I am a God," there's a difference. The folks at Grantland compared the song to Kanye waking up in the morning, looking at himself in a mirror, and saying those words over and over again, which I think is perfect. Musically, the song isn't really the picture of self-confidence or bravado either, with Kanye's insane screams perforating the instrumental and the dark, droning synth tracks. quote:And with the Blood on the Leaves song, the Bridge goes in a direction that I just don't understand and the lyrics just don't highlight the subject matter and visual emotion that Strange Fruit intentionally put across way back in 1939. It strikes me as an Amber Rose dig, and after 808's and Heartbreaks, I think we got the point. Yes, the sample is about lynchings in the Jim Crow South, and the song is about a bad breakup. It's a startling gap between source content and subject matter, which is probably the point. Kanye uses heightened -- mostly racial -- imagery throughout the album to describe relatively inconsequential things. In "New Slaves," he talks about fashion honchos not respecting him unless he "picks the cotton himself." In "I'm In It" he fists a girl "like a Civil Rights Sign" and compares a girl taking her bra off to a famous portion of "I Have a Dream." In "Black Skinhead," he gets his "by any means on" and compares white people coming to see him in concert to visitors going to ogle King Kong locked in his cage. Later on in "Blood on the Leaves" he compares keeping his wife and mistress separated at a basketball game to Apartheid. It goes on and on. The point is that there's really nothing to this album except Kanye. Even when he seems to be spreading these subversive messages about "new racism" and what not, it's really all about him. Had Kanye used the Strange Fruit sample and made Blood on the Leaves a track about racism, sexism, or other social ills, it would have been completely out of place on the album. Is it a startling, potentially offense, move? Yeah, absolutely. Does Kanye give a gently caress? Nope, it's his album, and this one more than any of his other ones is about Kanye. (I suggest we move this to the Kanye thread since I don't want to dominate this one with posts like this) Edit: That Gibbs tracklist looks awesome. Professor Funk fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Jun 18, 2013 |
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Parachute Underwear posted:Deniro Farrar just released The Patriarch II for $1 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK YES Had no idea this was coming. The Patriarch is top 5 of the year so far for me. Thanks for the heads up.
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Gladstone posted:Freddie Gibbs' ESGN artwork and tracklist 20 tracks yessssss Eastside Moonwalker loving owns and Gibbs in that video can be unironically compared to Pac I think.
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Jun 18, 2013 16:50
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Wale's album is streaming on iTunes. First track isn't completely horrible.
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doctor thodt posted:Wale's album is streaming on iTunes. 
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Yeeaaahhh, I gave up on track 3. Don't know why I even bothered when there's new Deniro to check out.
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