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Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Einander posted:

From what I've heard, the translation and localization are both kind of awful. I wouldn't recommend it.

Edit: While I'm thinking about it, here are some examples, courtesy of a quick twitter search. That said, the MangaGamer version will apparently feature translation corrections... eventually. Encouraging.

Also, apparently there's an official French version released by Kawasoft? But I can't read French.

Still looks better than Mangagamer's Higurashi translation.

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Mborg009
Sep 17, 2009
Oh wow, that's a bit rough looking. Doing a little poking around on the Kawasoft site seems to indicate that they will include both French and English options for their release in July. So wait on that or for mangagamer to fix up the translation and localization I guess?

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


Silver2195 posted:

Still looks better than Mangagamer's Higurashi translation.

What was wrong with that translation? Was there another option I missed?

Stall_19
Jan 2, 2013

Prodigy of Victor von Doom
More Steins;Gate.

Eating more vegetables. If this actually works.....

Stall_19 fucked around with this message at 09:34 on Jun 16, 2013

Tamba
Apr 5, 2010

Mborg009 posted:

I don't know if it's already been said, but World End Economica episode 1 is up on mangagamer. It's a romance/sci-fi/economics deal written by the author of the Spice and Wolf light novels. So if you are a fan of Spice and Wolf or just think it sounds kind of interesting I think it might be worth checking out.

I assume the mangagamer-version is still infected with their DRM?
It's also available on dlsite: http://www.dlsite.com/eng/circle/profile/=/maker_id/RG21930.html

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Silver2195 posted:

Still looks better than Mangagamer's Higurashi translation.

Or the original Edelweiss translation.

"Musturvate or lily."

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Looks like someones finally translating the Muv-Luv Alternative Chronicles discs.


According to vntls, all they've done so far is patch the Chicken Diver's section in (which I'm sure everyone's seen the translated version on youtube already but still!) Curious to how long the project overall will take or if it'll just stall out into nothingness like before.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Dude, timg tags exist.

Suleman posted:

I finished Tomoyo's route in Clannad. This is probably as down-to-earth as Key gets, I guess. The characters almost seemed to have Real Problems, though it actually got a bit too slow towards the end. Also, it's interesting to see a VN relationship in which neither character is a doormat. I think Tomoyo After is supposed to continue this storyline. Is it worth the time?

I've finished it. It starts off really porny, settles down into a story about family, then finally ENDING SPOILERS:the main dude gets some sort of brain tumour that makes him lose his memory every week. He is operated on and it is implied that he becomes a vegetable. This is the true end.

It's kinda dumb and nowhere near as good as the original, although Dungeons and Takafumi is kinda fun.

Cynic Jester
Apr 11, 2009

Let's put a simile on that face
A dazzling simile
Twinkling like the night sky
I'm going through Clannad at the moment, and, well, I'm laughing. And usually it's at the jokes. It's all very confusing and unusual.

planetarial
Oct 19, 2012
Finished Meakashi-hen also known as love makes you crazy chapter and so far I can say that Kai is much better both with the improved music, different viewpoints and pacing. However I almost wished they wouldn't have taken the obvious route with the twin switch even if it does work well.

So in the end did Keiichi die of heart failure in Watanagashi-hen too and just hallucinated Mion/Shion before he died? That kind of bugged me especially since Meakashi-hen offered no explanation for it.

Some vague speculation the next story will probably be from the viewpoint of Satoko or Rena. More likely Rena since she hasn't had any real arcs that have focused on her yet. I have a feeling they're saving Rika for last.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

planetarial posted:

So in the end did Keiichi die of heart failure in Watanagashi-hen too and just hallucinated Mion/Shion before he died? That kind of bugged me especially since Meakashi-hen offered no explanation for it.
Pretty much. Though you may have a different perspective on the incident after you finish Kai.

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



What is the visual novel where you can kill yourself in a washing machine? Thanks in advance.

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


... Uzumaki got a visual novel?

Sinner Sandwich
Oct 13, 2012

Poniard posted:

What is the visual novel where you can kill yourself in a washing machine? Thanks in advance.

Uh, Ever 17?

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012
Isn't that the one where a bunch of people are trapped in an underwater museum or something? I hear it's really good and I want to try it eventually.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

"really good" would be stretching it.

It's pretty boring and only is redeemed by its true route.


Just play 999 and Virtue's last reward instead. (same author)

Ibram Gaunt fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Jun 18, 2013

unpronounceable
Apr 4, 2010

You mean we still have another game to go through?!
Fallen Rib

ViggyNash posted:

Isn't that the one where a bunch of people are trapped in an underwater museum or something? I hear it's really good and I want to try it eventually.

People get trapped in an underwater amusement park, yeah.

I thoroughly enjoyed it, especially the true route, but some others here didn't like it nearly as much. We all agree that the true route is the highlight of the VN, but where I liked the individual routes you go through before it, other people feel they just really bring the whole thing down.

I think the payoff is worth it, and, if nothing else, it really takes advantage of the VN medium for its story.

LeeDless
Mar 28, 2010

ViggyNash posted:

Isn't that the one where a bunch of people are trapped in an underwater museum or something? I hear it's really good and I want to try it eventually.

It is. In fact it's been LP'd.

Edit: I looked around and the Remember 11 LP isn't on there. That's disappointing.

LeeDless fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Jun 18, 2013

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

ViggyNash posted:

Isn't that the one where a bunch of people are trapped in an underwater museum or something? I hear it's really good and I want to try it eventually.
It's relatively famous and worth playing/reading all things considered, but I (and a decent number of others apparently) consider it to be kind of overrated.

Nephilm
Jun 11, 2009

by Lowtax
E17 is a good and polished example of what you can do with the VN medium if you stop treating it as just a book with pictures.

The story itself only reaches the rank of decent, though, the bulk of which comes from the payoff.

Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008

ViggyNash posted:

Isn't that the one where a bunch of people are trapped in an underwater museum or something? I hear it's really good and I want to try it eventually.

Some people here are down on it but I found it to be a fantastic read despite its issues.

I wouldn't read 999 "instead", I'd just advocate reading both if you can.

Davzz
Jul 31, 2008
I don't think 999 is superior to E17 in all ways. In fact I would say that in a certain sense it's like the opposite of E17.

Whereas E17 is overall poorly paced but has a big payoff at the end, 999 has better pacing but the story and especially the end-sequence kind of breaks down if you think about it for a bit.

Although the fact that they both have the exact same plot twist which means that you'll probably think less of whatever game you decide to play second.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Well, not necessarily. I played Ever17 well before 999 and I thought the latter was a far more enjoyable experience. I'd actually say that for all the praise the Ever17 true route gets, the actual ending is pretty lackluster and unimaginative. 999's ending isn't exactly a homerun but I thought it worked well for the type of story it had in that game. I haven't played VLR yet, though I've had it since it was released.

Son Ryo
Jun 13, 2007
Excuse me, do you know where Saiyans hang out?
Whereas I thought 999 was by far the worse game, but not necessarily for anything to do with its ending. Everyone's got different opinions, perhaps more so when it comes to VNs than most forms of media-- just play whatever catches your eye.

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012

Nate RFB posted:

Well, not necessarily. I played Ever17 well before 999 and I thought the latter was a far more enjoyable experience. I'd actually say that for all the praise the Ever17 true route gets, the actual ending is pretty lackluster and unimaginative. 999's ending isn't exactly a homerun but I thought it worked well for the type of story it had in that game. I haven't played VLR yet, though I've had it since it was released.

VLR is fantastic in my opinion, although thinking about all the various paths together can be kind of frustrating. Its a very complex story but its a brilliantly designed story that could only work as a VN.

I guess that's why you guys mean by a VN that isn't just a novel with words.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

ViggyNash posted:

VLR is fantastic in my opinion, although thinking about all the various paths together can be kind of frustrating. Its a very complex story but its a brilliantly designed story that could only work as a VN.

I guess that's why you guys mean by a VN that isn't just a novel with words.

As opposed to a novel without words?

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



Namtab posted:

As opposed to a novel without words?

My favorite kind!

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012

Namtab posted:

As opposed to a novel without words?

If you haven't seen how VRL works, a path is not the same as a route in a usual VN. The story is only complete when ALL of the paths are completed, and some paths can't be completed until you have progressed far enough in another path. This is very different from, say, Fate/SN which is more like a combination of 3 novels based on the same premise.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

That's p.cool and all but there's still words involved.

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012
What I've been trying to say is that the design of the story and the VN as a game would not work as a novel at all. That's what differentiates VLR and similar VNs from standard novel-with-pictures VNs.

unpronounceable
Apr 4, 2010

You mean we still have another game to go through?!
Fallen Rib
Let me spell it out for you, since you don't seem to be getting it.

ViggyNash posted:

VLR is fantastic in my opinion, although thinking about all the various paths together can be kind of frustrating. Its a very complex story but its a brilliantly designed story that could only work as a VN.

I guess that's why you guys mean by a VN that isn't just a novel with words.

ViggyNash posted:

I guess that's why you guys mean by a VN that isn't just a novel with words.

ViggyNash posted:

novel with words

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012
Hold on, I have to find the right smile to represent my acknowledgement of my own stupidity.

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



I think he meant novel vs. visual novel, like his books need pictures or something.

Suleman
Sep 4, 2011
I finished Kyou's route in Clannad.

The drama was cliched but delicious and decently written. Back when I did Tomoyo's route, I noted how neither person in that relationship was a doormat. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same about this route. So, yeah, I did have some problems with the route, but it was enjoyable and Botan was adorable.
I guess I should do Ryou's route as well, though I gather they're very similar.

klapman
Aug 27, 2012

this char is good
No, I get what he's saying and I feel the same way. I think he means that with a novel, the person reading it doesn't have any input, so some of the stuff VLR does would have far less of an impact. I mean, technically you could pull off the plot with a CYOA novel, but it wouldn't be quite the same. Things like VLR's plot elements and Umineko's emphasis on music make me consider visual novels at least slightly removed from regular books.

Cynic Jester
Apr 11, 2009

Let's put a simile on that face
A dazzling simile
Twinkling like the night sky

Suleman posted:

I finished Kyou's route in Clannad.

The drama was cliched but delicious and decently written. Back when I did Tomoyo's route, I noted how neither person in that relationship was a doormat. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same about this route. So, yeah, I did have some problems with the route, but it was enjoyable and Botan was adorable.
I guess I should do Ryou's route as well, though I gather they're very similar.

Kyou's route is basically a continuation of Ryou's route, so it'll be quick.

Suleman
Sep 4, 2011

Cynic Jester posted:

Kyou's route is basically a continuation of Ryou's route, so it'll be quick.

Apparently so. I guess that's because the routes would have been too similar, just from a slightly different perspective. That was an issue in some other VNs, like the sisters' routes in Da Capo 2.

Blhue
Apr 22, 2008

Fallen Rib
Ryou's route is basically "you hosed up, go back and pick the interesting one."

Al Baron
Nov 12, 2007
They were all out of Marquess.
So Fred of Mega Tokyo (yes it's still going) wants to make a visual novel out of it.

Edit:

Al Baron fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Jun 19, 2013

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Davzz
Jul 31, 2008
Wow, what a blast from the past.

Unfortunately I stopped liking Mega Tokyo once the other guy left (which I guess means I didn't like it much in the first place.) Also with the dude's work ethics the thing will come out in 2030 with stick figure art.

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