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Ligur posted:[STRIKE-CHAT] No way you can't follow it up with a glorious hook.
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Novum posted:Rear hand uppercut is my favorite because the guy who always uses them always tries to open with it, leading to easy and hilarious counter attacks. I experimented with leading with my overhand for a bit til I talked to my coach and he said "NEVER LEAD WITH THE OVERHAND"
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Jun 19, 2013 16:16
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mewse posted:I experimented with leading with my overhand for a bit til I talked to my coach and he said "NEVER LEAD WITH THE OVERHAND" when you say "experiment" I mentally substitute "did a lot of jaeger bombs and picked a fight"
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Jun 19, 2013 16:29
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I admit most of my bright ideas come from drinking
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Jun 19, 2013 16:31
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Kekekela posted:Oh hey, I know that place, I thought it was just called Tampa Muay Thai. We had like four guys fight over there last year at one of the fight nights. From what I understand, the actual gym goes by Tampa Muay Thai. But, they are an affiliate of the Khanomtom group run out of Thailand. Ligur posted:[STRIKE-CHAT] My strike-chat musing: hooks, I HATE them. I don't see how you can generate any power from one. I get that the idea is to use a hook to get around the opponent's hands, but then what? You've landed with a punch that won't break an egg. Also, hooks hurt my hand something fierce when landing one on a focus mitt or bag. Then again, I've only been learning to throw punches for only a month now, so it's a safe assumption that I don't know what the gently caress. Speaking of hurting hands, I'm still getting some pain when I connect with uppercuts too. Boxing is hard!
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Jun 19, 2013 16:45
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Dolemite posted:hooks, I HATE them. I don't see how you can generate any power from one. I get that the idea is to use a hook to get around the opponent's hands, but then what? You've landed with a punch that won't break an egg. Then again, I've only been learning to throw punches for only a month now, so it's a safe assumption that I don't know what the gently caress. quote:Speaking of hurting hands, I'm still getting some pain when I connect with uppercuts too. Boxing is hard! Knuckles, or wrist, or elsewhere?
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Jun 19, 2013 17:06
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Kekekela posted:Oh hey, I know that place, I thought it was just called Tampa Muay Thai. We had like four guys fight over there last year at one of the fight nights. Dang, small world! The actual story I think is that the founder/owner, Ray Cole, trained at Khanomtom62 under Khru Sakkedao, and then took the namesake when he founded it. Apparently "Khanomtom" is hard to pronounce for whitey (really now?) so everyone just calls it Tampa Muay Thai  .
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Jun 19, 2013 18:06
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Dolemite posted:My strike-chat musing: hooks, I HATE them. I don't see how you can generate any power from one. I get that the idea is to use a hook to get around the opponent's hands, but then what? You've landed with a punch that won't break an egg. Also, hooks hurt my hand something fierce when landing one on a focus mitt or bag. Then again, I've only been learning to throw punches for only a month now, so it's a safe assumption that I don't know what the gently caress. Dude, hooks OWN, especially if you're a lefty, practice them a lot. Angel taught me how to hook a lot better so if you can go in the morning, go to one and ask him. Also, you may be hitting the bag too hard, I know the exact pain you're describing and it sounds like you're loving up your wrist and jamming it. Wrap your wrist better and if you're using the gym's gloves still then try to get there early and get the better pairs. If you're going to make this a full time thing then get some real gloves, I got a good pair of Fairtex gloves and the wrist support is so much better. Just TAKE IT EASY on the power for a while, especially since you're totally green you should be doing basic technique, power comes WITH the technique. E: are you becoming familiar with standard 4-count techniques yet? Roundhouse kick, hook, cross, switch kick or switch kick, cross, hook, roundhouse kick (for us southpaws at least). One drill you learn fairly early is round-hook-cross-switch-cross-hook-round-repeat. A ton of the mid and higher level techniques will revolve around 4-counts. Saying again, if you ever can, go to a morning class if you can at all! Morning classes are basically free private lessons. Also how are you doing on sprint kicks? Those were a bitch for me to get for a long time. T.S. Smelliot fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Jun 19, 2013 |
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Jun 19, 2013 18:14
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KidDynamite posted:No way you can't follow it up with a glorious hook. What are you talking about, you can easily do lead-uppercut to lead-hook. Tyson did it all the time.
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Jun 19, 2013 18:53
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Yeah, just do that thing Mike Tyson did, jeez
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Jun 19, 2013 18:54
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can I do the thing where my forehead touches the floor while weaving around 4 punches in a row? Because thats the coolest ever.
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Jun 19, 2013 19:11
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Xguard86 posted:can I do the thing where my forehead touches the floor while weaving around 4 punches in a row? Because thats the coolest ever. Only if you follow it up with that John Smith single where you put your shoulder on his ankle. E: Paging Lt. Shiny-sides - Any summaries or abstracts on the impact upper back/trap strength has on punching? I used to talk with a boxing ref who swore up and down that it was obvious Tyson didn't hit as hard in the 90s because his back was so much smaller. Julio Cesar Fatass fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Jun 19, 2013 |
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Jun 19, 2013 20:29
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Yeah, just do that thing Mike Tyson did, jeez Lots of people in boxing use the lead-uppercut/hook combo, I just like tying my boxing references to Tyson or Floyd because it makes it harder for KidDynamite to disagree with me.
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Jun 19, 2013 20:57
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Left upper->Left hook is just something that makes my rotator cuff cry. I'm also having trouble seeing an application for the combo over left upper->straight. The hook off the left upper will also be less powerful than a hook thrown after a right upper thus making it less glorious, unless it's left upper->feint->left hook but to me that's an entirely different combination. 
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Jun 19, 2013 21:18
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Every time I saw Tyson doing it he was throwing against a guy cowering behind his gloves with no will to do anything beyond that. Also Tyson was fast as a motherfucker.
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Jun 19, 2013 21:21
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KidDynamite posted:Left upper->Left hook is just something that makes my rotator cuff cry. I'm also having trouble seeing an application for the combo over left upper->straight. The hook off the left upper will also be less powerful than a hook thrown after a right upper thus making it less glorious, unless it's left upper->feint->left hook but to me that's an entirely different combination. You can get a full power hook off the left upper if you don't fully shift your weight on the upper, which means the upper won't be as powerful, but it doesn't need to be because the purpose of it isn't to be a full power shot in and of itself but to raise your opponent's head to set them up for the subsequent hook.
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Jun 19, 2013 22:19
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fatherdog posted:You can get a full power hook off the left upper if you don't fully shift your weight on the upper, which means the upper won't be as powerful, but it doesn't need to be because the purpose of it isn't to be a full power shot in and of itself but to raise your opponent's head to set them up for the subsequent hook. chessbox'in right here.
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Jun 19, 2013 22:44
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Muay Thai is god-king of all striking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reXwXRH0j4s
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KidDynamite posted:Left upper->Left hook is just something that makes my rotator cuff cry. I'm also having trouble seeing an application for the combo over left upper->straight. The hook off the left upper will also be less powerful than a hook thrown after a right upper thus making it less glorious, unless it's left upper->feint->left hook but to me that's an entirely different combination. Doubling up on one side owns bones. I find a lot of people really struggle to throw them because they don't get how to rotate their hip that little bit to get some torque into both punches.
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Jun 20, 2013 02:32
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I'll double up with a hook off the jab or hooks to head then body or whatever combination. Those play nice with shoulders. But like fatherdog pointed out you have to take a bit off the upper to get a powerful hook after it. I don't think there's a way to blast full power left upper->left hook unless you've got latex bands instead of labrum in your shoulder.
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Jun 20, 2013 04:37
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[STRIKE-CHAT] The backhand hook is the worst punch. >:[
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Jun 20, 2013 11:31
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uh... I never have or had a problem throwing a left hook after a left straight (jab) without full power? Also, sometimes you need that hook just to tag him so you can hit him hard with the right? Just throw the first hook, then throw the second hook. Load it up as normal. ("bam, BAM" if you make sound effects) Am I not understanding the strikechat?
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Jun 20, 2013 13:35
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the best punch is the pimp slap
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Spinning back elbow was always the hardest for me, which sucks because dang does it look cool.
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Jun 20, 2013 14:02
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mewse posted:the best punch is the pimp slap I'll raise you the GERMAN pimp slap
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Jun 20, 2013 14:48
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kimbo305 posted:Knuckles, or wrist, or elsewhere? It always ends up at the wrists, but sometimes, I get pain in my middle two knuckles. Israfel posted:Dude, hooks OWN, especially if you're a lefty, practice them a lot. Angel taught me how to hook a lot better so if you can go in the morning, go to one and ask him. I definitely want to get the hang of hooks for sure. Especially if they're a great weapon for lefties! I prob do hit the bag a bit hard. I warm up first, I start off just tapping the bag and focusing on technique. Then, I ramp up the power while still trying to use good technique. I guess I need to calm down a bit and quit trying to kill the bag. It seems counter-intuitive that not trying to kill the bag will make your punches better! I'm using the gym's gloves right now, but I plan to pick up some gloves when I save up a bit more cash. I'm not familiar with the four-count combos you've listed off. We've actually never drilled those in the month and a half I've been training. The combo drills are usually punching only drills. Or, we work on a specific skill. I'd like to get to the gym early enough to take a 6am class. It's pretty hard to do that living across the bridge in St. Pete. I think the instructors at the gym are getting hip to the fact that the early classes are free private sessions. Now, students are being requested to post up on Facebook if you'll be making it. [EQUIPMENT-CHAT] I was looking at gloves on Amazon last night and there's a bunch of different gloves out there! Competition gloves, sparring gloves, bag gloves, lace ups, etc. There doesn't seem to be a general purpose type glove out there. Ugg! I know I don't want lace ups since we're constantly taking gloves on and off to put on protective gear, grab a drink of water, etc. But I dunno what kind of gloves to get. I need a pair that will primarily be used on heavy bags, Thai pads, and focus mitts. But, will hold up when I go sparring months (or even a year) from now. I would assume that means I would be best served by bag gloves. But will they fall apart after one sparring session? Also, I'm looking at MT style shorts - do you all have any brands you love? Brands that make piss poor shorts? Same goes for gloves, any brands to avoid? I understand that for gloves at least, Fairtex is worth the money and hype.
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Jun 20, 2013 15:19
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Buy a pair of Twins leather gloves and a pair of pink Top King shorts, never look back.
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Jun 20, 2013 15:25
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Cael Sanderson teaches you a single. We worked this at my last wrestling class -- it's a very cool and simple setup (kind of like an arm drag), and you can take the back even if they sprawl successfully. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3m10z6-lzc
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Syphilis Fish posted:uh... I never have or had a problem throwing a left hook after a left straight (jab) without full power? Also, sometimes you need that hook just to tag him so you can hit him hard with the right? Just throw the first hook, then throw the second hook. Load it up as normal. ("bam, BAM" if you make sound effects) You're misunderstanding we're talking about a hook after an uppercut. Mechafunkzilla posted:Cael Sanderson teaches you a single. We worked this at my last wrestling class -- it's a very cool and simple setup (kind of like an arm drag), and you can take the back even if they sprawl successfully. I've never been able to shoot correctly. I can't get my forward knee to drop ever. Not sure if it's due to ankle inflexibility or some other factor how do people get that part right? KidDynamite fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Jun 20, 2013 |
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Jun 20, 2013 15:43
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KidDynamite posted:You're misunderstanding we're talking about a hook after an uppercut. Are you a big or fat guy? Bigger guys tend to have really lovely balance when they're low. Aside from just drilling shots until you can do them you can try stabilization exercises like split squats, lunges, bosu ball squats, etc.
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Dolemite posted:[EQUIPMENT-CHAT] These are all you will ever need for anything and everything at the gym (in 16 oz so you can spar with them) http://www.muaythai-fighting.com/fairtex-muay-thai-boxing-glove-bgv-1.html If you want to down the road, get a Boon belly pad, Top King shin guards, and Fairtex/Boone thai pads to train on your own. You've probably noticed the stock thai pads in the gym are fairly nice as well for the money. You can also buy gloves in the gym shop iirc, you might be able to get a discount. The site I linked has been used by myself and several other goons with no issues, so they're a good seller as well. Also I meant the 9 am classes, not the
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you just have to do a lot of shooting drills up and down the mat to get the strength and coordination. I couldn't do it either but drilled it enough that now its fairly natural.
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Dolemite posted:It always ends up at the wrists, but sometimes, I get pain in my middle two knuckles. For gloves, I use Ringside IMF Techs. They are good all leather boxing gloves for sparring or bag work. azreal fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Jun 20, 2013 |
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Are you a big or fat guy? Bigger guys tend to have really lovely balance when they're low. Aside from just drilling shots until you can do them you can try stabilization exercises like split squats, lunges, bosu ball squats, etc. Right now yes but even when fit in high school and on the wrestling team I was unable to do it correctly. My coach could never figure it out and we worked on it until I started winning and he was like you're a senior do what works. Dang harsh but probably true! VVVV KidDynamite fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Jun 20, 2013 |
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Jun 20, 2013 20:44
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KidDynamite posted:Right now yes but even when fit in high school and on the wrestling team I was unable to do it correctly. My coach could never figure it out and we worked on it until I started winning and he was like you're a senior do what works. I think I figured it out, the reason you can't do a single is because you've had lovely coaching
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Guess whose gym got onto Gilt deals? http://www.giltcity.com/boston/redlinefightsports They used a pic of me. 
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kimbo305 posted:Guess whose gym got onto Gilt deals? haha I see the Winning headgear! Enjoy the newbies, treat them well. Or pound them if they are butts.
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More proud of the Boons I got from poster JeromeLouis. How's that headgear working out? I have a pair of Lonsdale gloves if you want them, but they're weird and might not provide wrist support for others, too.
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This one kid who was deathly afraid of sparring has made good progress wearing it. It took some mental block off getting hit for him. We've explained he'll have to get weened off it to make sure he can go into a fight and he seems like he'll be able to make that step just fine. Thanks again dude. Can't be said enough.
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azreal posted:For gloves, I use Ringside IMF Techs. They are good all leather boxing gloves for sparring or bag work. I'm a big fan of Fairtex, Twins and punchtown, I use the latter at the moment and haven't had any issues.
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