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Renaissance Spam posted:I suspect they have no interest in having TNA at all. TNA is a nice little show that gets them a solid 1.0 rating. Nothing more. If TNA ever showed a return on their investment and got them better ratings, they might have considered backing it more, but TNA has tried everything. They never get higher than a 1.2 at absolute best. And never will, without a namechange and massive management overhaul.
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Wow, in Canada it was just a heavily edited Raw on Mondays and you had to wait for Tuesday to get a Nitro fix (if there wasn't anything else TSN had lined up. I think CURLING preempted Nitro during the Scotts Tournament one time.)
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Jun 21, 2013 22:10
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ITV used to show worldwide mid afternoon on a saturday in my region. I never really got really into wrestling until i got cable in 98 and then it was WWE because I used to rent the ppv tapes from blockbuster.
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I Before E posted:Where I had to stop was when security showed up to separate them, and I assume this is where the segment ended. It got worse actually...the Harris brothers scoop her up, slam her, than one picks her up by her hair and slams her again. WWE rehired Russo a few years after this right?
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The last page of discussion has made me curious, for those of you who watched wrestling during the Monday Night Wars, what was the most wrestling you'd ever watch in a week? In 1997 I might end up watching: 2 hours of Nitro a bit of Raw 2 hours of Saturday Night 1 hour of Pro 1 hour of Worldwide 1 hour of Superstars 1 hour of Shotgun 1 hour of Main Event for 9+ hours of wrestling in a week. In 1998 I'd max out at: 3 hours of Nitro a bit of Raw 2 hours of Thunder 2 hours of Saturday Night 1 hour of Main Event 1 hour of Superstars 1 hour of Shotgun 1 hour of Worldwide 1 hour of Hardcore TV 12+ hours of wrestling in a week. I didn't do that every week, but gently caress...
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Jun 21, 2013 22:55
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2 hours of Raw The first hour of Nitro 2 hours of Thunder 2 hours of Smackdown 1 hour of Heat 8 hours because I'd never really watch Saturday Night, Superstars, or any of the smaller shows. But if I liked Raw that week I might have watched the Telemundo replay on Saturday afternoon, even though I never spoke Spanish.
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Jun 21, 2013 23:01
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I'd watch: First hour of Nitro and flip/tape between Raw and Nitro afterward (preferred Raw by far). Thunder/Smackdown (were they head to head?) WCW Saturday night Sunday Night Heat Super Astros (!) And whatever smaller shows I remembered to tape/flip on.
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Jun 21, 2013 23:04
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Snacksmaniac posted:Thunder/Smackdown (were they head to head?) I remember Smackdown on Thursdays and Thunder on Wednesday.
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Jun 21, 2013 23:06
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3 hours of Nitro 2 hours of RAW 2 hours of Saturday Night 1 hour of Shotgun 2 hours of Thunder 2 hours of Smackdown So 8 hours when Thunder/SD were both on Thursdays. Jesus Christ thats like a full day of work.
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I'm currently watching: 3 Hours of RAW 2 Hours of Smackdown 1 Hour of NXT 1 Hour of Superstars 1 Hour of Main Event + Random youtubes So there's that.
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Jun 21, 2013 23:09
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The key was that Nitro was immediately replayed on TNT for the west coast, so you could just watch Nitro after RAW if you wanted to do both.
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It was difficult for me to watch anything more than Raw during the Attitude Era, because even though I had a TV in my bedroom, I only ever watched WCW occasionally. I think this was because Nitro came on Tuesday afternoons in Canada, from 4-7, so that was a pretty terrible time. My most watched period was during 2002, where I am pretty sure I watched every single WWE show (save for the clip shows). So, from memory, this would be Raw, Smackdown, Velocity, Heat, and Confidential. I also got "free" satellite, so I would watch every single TNA PPV. If I wasn't able to watch it while it was on, I would just tape it and watch it later. This was also in addition to my tape collection. Just writing this out right now is making me wonder how I had time for anything other than wrestling, and how I wish I spent that time on something useful.
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Jun 21, 2013 23:13
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From what I remember, I was probably watching 6-7ish hours in a row on a Friday night in the UK. TNT used to air Nitro, followed right away by Thunder and once they wrapped up, the midnight repeat of Raw came on. Then during the week I watch Shotgun and Superstars, although if memory serves me correct, they were the same show with different announce teams. Sometimes TNT would also randomly shove on an old Thunder or Nitro on a Saturday night too. So yeah, I was at about 9 hours for a good chunk of 98-2000 before Nitro was sold off when TNT became TCM over here.
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Jun 21, 2013 23:18
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Usually I would flip between Raw and Nitro depending on what was more engaging at the moment. By the time Smackdown came out, I'd basically stopped watching Thunder (they were booked head-to-head on Thursdays at first, until Thunder moved back to Wednesdays) because it was barely a step above Saturday Night, so I just watched Smackdown instead. So if you count Raw and Nitro as four hours, that'd be around six hours of wrestling per week. These days I just watch three hours of Raw, but I also enjoy other federations so that makes up for the rest, I guess.
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The late Raw showing was 2am, so it was entirely possible to watch all 7 hours in a row. Then the next day there was livewire, action zone, superstars all in a row on Sky one and then the same footage used for superstars was commentated on with a different team on Sunday lunchtime. I can't remember what night the first airing of Smackdown was in the UK. Saturday?
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Skinty McEdger posted:The late Raw showing was 2am, so it was entirely possible to watch all 7 hours in a row. Then the next day there was livewire, action zone, superstars all in a row on Sky one and then the same footage used for superstars was commentated on with a different team on Sunday lunchtime. God yeah, I forgot that I watched that Saturday block too on Sky 1. Was it 2am? Thought it was midnight but it has been a long time but yeah, I think I did that more often that I should've. Yeah, we got Smackdown I think ~6 months after it began if not more and it was on Sky Sports on Saturdays.
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My wrestling was very limited because my parents didn't approve of it and didn't want me staying up past 9 on weekdays, so my wrestling mostly consisted of a Raw every two weeks, the occasional thunder and WCW Saturday Night. I didn't have TNT (Yay Canadian cable!) so Nitro was this mysterious show people talked about but I never saw until TSN picked it up for a Tuesday night slot.
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Jun 21, 2013 23:30
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I remember that my first exposure to nitro was eading the results that they put up on the Cartnoon network text pages. What has always amused me was that they always put the results up on a Tuesday morning, so TNT ended up spoiling the show by the time it aired over here on a Friday.
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Jun 21, 2013 23:33
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I think my first exposure to Nitro was waiting for Raw to come on one night and flipping through the channels and had that "Wait, there's other wrestling?" moment. I think it was some kind of nWo beatdown involving Jim Duggan?
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Jun 21, 2013 23:57
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I think I watched close to 17 hours of wrestling during Wrestlemania week between the weekly programming, the RoH PPV, the NJPW iPPV, and Wrestlemania itself.
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oatgan posted:I think I watched close to 17 hours of wrestling during Wrestlemania week between the weekly programming, the RoH PPV, the NJPW iPPV, and Wrestlemania itself Look nerd, we're talking about back in the day when wrestling was cool as poo poo, not today when it's totally uncool!
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Jun 22, 2013 00:13
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oatgan posted:I think I watched close to 17 hours of wrestling during Wrestlemania week between the weekly programming, the RoH PPV, the NJPW iPPV, and Wrestlemania itself. Mania week is my Wrestling Week. I just binge out on all wrestling I can get. I technically still watch everything WWE put out, but watching it online means I can skip a lot of it.
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MassRafTer posted:Look nerd, we're talking about back in the day when wrestling was cool as poo poo, not today when it's totally uncool! In that case, zero minutes.
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Mania week this year was moving week. I actually pushed back my moving day so I could be at my friends WrestleMania party. Dear god, my autocorrect actually corrected the capitalization for WrestleMania.
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The American Males just beat Harlem Heat for the tag title and the crowd loving loved it. This was in the first match of the third episode of Nitro. You sort of have to admire WCW for throwing title changes out there like that. Of course they'd gently caress that up later on like everything else but there's still something refreshing about it and in the early days helped cultivate that "anything can happen" attitude.
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My weekly wrestling time: -3 hrs of Raw -2 hrs of Smackdown -1 hr of Main Event -Whatever I decide to not fast forward of Impact -NXT when I get to it -misc.
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Renaissance Spam posted:Wow, in Canada it was just a heavily edited Raw on Mondays and you had to wait for Tuesday to get a Nitro fix (if there wasn't anything else TSN had lined up. I think CURLING preempted Nitro during the Scotts Tournament one time.) Hey, we Canadians used to get WCW Saturday night on... Saturday afternoon as well! I can't remember what channel carried it, but I only had the 5 that our antenna could get us so it was a basic one for sure. It BLEW MY MIND once they decided to start airing edited down episodes of Nitro instead of Saturday Night in that slot. Finally, I thought, I get to experience where the Big Boys Play!! Of course this was in 1999 when the show was at it's absolute worst.
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Have been binging through this thread lately, great stuff all around, makes me want to go back and reread Death of WCW. Two questions: What's the story behind Sid Vicious going for the turnbuckle move that hosed his leg so badly? Wasn't it something like creative bullying him into doing it when he had no experience doing top turnbuckle moves? That to me was peak WCW right there, it got no worse than that. Secondly, is there anyone out there outside of Vince Russo himself who genuinely enjoyed WCW in 99-2000? I started watching wrestling with WCW in late 99, and I enjoyed since I didn't know anything about the WWF at the time. I quickly switched to almost fully watching the WWF at a friend's recommendation, though, and didn't really turn back outside of the first hour of Nitro. Are there people out there who enjoyed it unironically? And would even today defend it? Or is it universally panned by everyone?
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crankdatbatman posted:Secondly, is there anyone out there outside of Vince Russo himself who genuinely enjoyed WCW in 99-2000?
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All this talk of hours spent per week watching is giving me a nostalgia overload. I preferred WWF at the time, but all my friends were WCW fans. I couldn't stay up late enough to watch both on Monday nights, so in order to be able to talk about wrestling with my friends on Tuesday, I taped Raw in the living room and watched Nitro in my bedroom while my mom watched tv in her bedroom. I remember being so worried that my mom would walk out and see the risqué stuff happening on Raw. Of course, on Tuesday, I pretended to be interested in what my friends had to say about Nitro, but I would secretly rush home and watch my taped Raw ASAP. Tuesdays seemed like they lasted an eternity 
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Dr. Mantis Toboggan posted:All this talk of hours spent per week watching is giving me a nostalgia overload. I preferred WWF at the time, but all my friends were WCW fans. I couldn't stay up late enough to watch both on Monday nights, so in order to be able to talk about wrestling with my friends on Tuesday, I taped Raw in the living room and watched Nitro in my bedroom while my mom watched tv in her bedroom. I remember being so worried that my mom would walk out and see the risqué stuff happening on Raw. I completely missed the boat on being able to talk to my friends about wrestling. I didn't watch it at all when WCW was popular (like late 98-early 99, although more and more of my friends were talking about the Rock and WWF around that time too). When I started watching WCW late 99, the few friends I had all watched WWF. Then when I finally started watching WWF, all my friends had quit watching completely. There was something about the summer of 99 with my friends that apparently made every one quit watching completely or switch to WWF only. Or maybe the dropoff was going on throughout 99 and I just never noticed it until I actually made an effort to watch wrestling. I also remember being legitimately scared Hulk Hogan was actually running for president at one point.
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All I can think about when I watch old nitros is how small the ring looks. Why doesn't Goldberg like Hall?
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crankdatbatman posted:
It wasn't just your friends
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I'd have to cross check at what point everything was running but there was definitely a period where I was watching RAW, Nitro, Thunder, SmackDown, ECW Hardcore TV, and the essentially weekly PPVs between the three companies, plus still getting Japanese and indy tapes.
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jeffersonlives posted:I'd have to cross check at what point everything was running but there was definitely a period where I was watching RAW, Nitro, Thunder, SmackDown, ECW Hardcore TV, and the essentially weekly PPVs between the three companies, plus still getting Japanese and indy tapes. By the time Smackdown got going you probably could add ECW on TNN into that mix, but by that point I had cooled off watching Thunder every week and only rarely watched Smackdown.
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I was writing reviews of Thunder specifically because of how bad it was by that point. What a tremendously awful television program.
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jeffersonlives posted:I was writing reviews of Thunder specifically because of how bad it was by that point. What a tremendously awful television program. Review WCW Thund... oh, well then.
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It was a rotating column called "Death by Thunder" or something like that. It usually involved alcohol.
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jeffersonlives posted:The key was that Nitro was immediately replayed on TNT for the west coast, so you could just watch Nitro after RAW if you wanted to do both. I did this far too often.
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I watched Raw each week, and sometimes I'd try to watch Nitro but I generally got bored or frustrated or both with it and would stop watching it for a few weeks at a time - whenever I came back it was generally pretty much the same thing happening anyway, Hogan was the Champion and the show would end with an nWo beatdown. So I probably watched maybe 2 hours a week minimum and 4-5 hours at an absolute maximum. Of course when Smackdown came along I always watched that, so that doubled my wrestling watching.
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