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PleasingFungus posted:I can't tell you many times I've died a suspicious death and immediately gotten the triumphant message, "Your plot to murder your father has succeeded!" I really want to see a 6 year old convince a bunch of adults to help kill his dad with him.
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PleasingFungus posted:I can't tell you many times I've died a suspicious death and immediately gotten the triumphant message, "Your plot to murder your father has succeeded!" Did you make that emote? 
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Jun 22, 2013 18:24
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Waiting for a brief moment of peace in my realm so I can finally switch over to Elective... I've been waiting for about 10 years now. Just stop killing each other, guys. Please?
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Jun 22, 2013 18:29
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Also: I think in vanilla, the frankish kingdoms are hardcoded to be more likely to have factions desiring Elective Monarchy. This seems to make it more likely that the HRE will develop as it did historically. Do any of the factions in CK2+ want elective monarchy? Edit: Another CK2+ question - How long does it take for an Empire to dissolve if it falls below 150 holdings? Noreaus fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Jun 22, 2013 |
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Jun 22, 2013 18:51
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So I ended up losing after getting down to the last female heir of Munster. I ended up winning back the crown, but died before I could murder my husband and get my lineage going again. I tried to take over another province but they had WAY more troops than my three counties together! WTF!? I hired mercenaries and SO DID THEY and I lost horribly. A few questions. I levied up some troops from a county, a small amount compared to my main force. However the AI immediately invaded and killed them before I could join them up against the AI in the AI's own county. What makes their troops move so much faster than mine, and how can I do it to them? I ended up cleaning up with my main force, but its a bit silly that they just stood there to fight them at crazy bad odds. How do I get more troops total? I can't build anymore since gold in this game is ridiculously slow. That one lady had like 2300 troops, and I could only muster between all three counties about 1800. How do I maximize my troop levels? Speaking of gold, how do I generate gold faster? Does it matter who I have lead troops or is it like a trivial bonus depending on the leader? Lastly, what do you do when you've murdered all the opposing troops but can't siege the holdings? Just wait?
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Jun 22, 2013 19:09
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Jastiger posted:
Taxes. Raise taxes on burghers and temples. Don't go too crazy raising taxes on feudal vassals, unless you're a small kingdom with few small vassals. Increasing the number of vassals increases the amount you get from taxes on them, so try to hold counties with many holdings as your desmesne. Plop your spymaster somewhere and set them to "Build Spy Network"-- there's a random event that the spymaster will discover a noble is a homosexual and the noble will pay 50 gold to keep you silent about his reputation. Plop your steward in the richest province in your desmesne.
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Jun 22, 2013 19:27
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There are a lot of reasons they could have had more troops than you: If a holding is held by a vassal instead of you, their opinion of you determine how many troops you'll get (there is a minimum, of course). If those territories were recently conquered they might also be suffering a huge penalty to both levies and income. It's also possible that the person you attacked had allies join in the war (for some reason the default message config has allies joining wars as a minor messages), or they could simply have hired more mercenaries. Army speed can be modified by generals and unit type, though you have to consider that travel time between different provinces is not the same for all of them (eg It might take 5 days to get from Kildare to Dublin, but 6 to get from Kildare to Ossory, and there are of course way larger differences) For troops, you might want to try increasing the relationships with your vassals or raising the levy laws. Buildings are pretty much the most reliable way to increase troop numbers and gold income. In particular, castle towns in your own holdings will give you the biggest benefit. You might also consider sending your steward to collect taxes in a high-value province. You might also want to fiddle with the tax levels, but raising them will make your vassals like you less (potentionally giving you less troops, etc). Also, if you're catholic, bishops only pay you taxes if they like you more than they like the Pope. If you don't have enough troops you can either wait for your levies to replenish or hire mercenaries. If you've already hired mercenaries and they've taken losses, remember that unlike levies, they can reinforce on the field. I made the logo lighter 
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Jun 22, 2013 19:35
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DrSunshine posted:Taxes. Raise taxes on burghers and temples. Don't go too crazy raising taxes on feudal vassals, unless you're a small kingdom with few small vassals. Increasing the number of vassals increases the amount you get from taxes on them, so try to hold counties with many holdings as your desmesne. Plop your spymaster somewhere and set them to "Build Spy Network"-- there's a random event that the spymaster will discover a noble is a homosexual and the noble will pay 50 gold to keep you silent about his reputation. Plop your steward in the richest province in your desmesne. You can also appoint a anti pope and laugh at the idea of ever running out of money again. Unless they nerfed them to poo poo since i last used them ( Around 1.07).
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Jun 22, 2013 19:46
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I have raised taxes a bit but never enough to really get up there. All the holding improvements are so expensive though. 700 for a castle! I can't afford that! And to update already held holdings it is like 300 or so. Ridiculous! How do you get that much? Also what does an anti pope do for cash. I didn't know vassal opinions mattered. Thanks!
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Jun 22, 2013 19:55
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You probably won't be constructing any new holdings for a while, but the first two income improvements only cost 100-180 gold, and they pay for themselves after a short while.
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Jun 22, 2013 20:00
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Captain Beans posted:
I now this is being nitpicky but please: A Duke holds a Duchy, not a dukedom.
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Jun 22, 2013 20:30
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Jastiger posted:Also what does an anti pope do for cash. Bishops, which are the second best source of revenue after city mayor dudes, pay money either to you or the Pope, whichever they like better. Which means you have to suck all their dicks to get your cash. If you have an antipope, they pay money either to your antipope (your vassal) or you, so you're not flushing all your money to Rome. Also, it gives you a casus belli to attack Rome 
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Jun 22, 2013 20:44
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Torrannor posted:I now this is being nitpicky but please: A Duke holds a Duchy, not a dukedom.  "Dukedom" is a real word, it refers to the title of Duke of Wherever, as opposed to the duchy which are the lands associated with the title.
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Jun 22, 2013 20:44
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I'd much rather prefer beard guy from the Old Gods extreme trailer in the emote. 
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Jun 22, 2013 21:02
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My amazing 21 intrigue wife was killed by a loving minor Norwegian Princess in my court.  I avenged her by asking the pope to excommunicate her, then I imprisoned her and cut off her head. Also 51% of the counties to create the duchy is annoying when there are only 2 counties. This game is crazily addictive.
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Jun 22, 2013 21:29
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Trujillo posted:I know you can't join vassal wars unless they're crusades/jihads, which is pretty frustrating when one of your kin is getting overthrown and you can't do a thing about it. Stab the aggressor, or if your ruler is relatively popular, imprison/execute. Broken Cog posted:So, how severe are the penalties for inbreeding in this game? As long as it's not a close relative they probably won't go all Hapsburg on you. Even if it's a Zoroastrian divine marriage you can still get worthwhile children, though you may need to get rid of a terrible one if it's your heir.
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Jun 22, 2013 22:00
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TinTower posted:I'd much rather prefer beard guy from the Old Gods extreme trailer in the emote. I will not be blackmailed! 
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Jun 22, 2013 22:15
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Geokinesis posted:Also 51% of the counties to create the duchy is annoying when there are only 2 counties. Yeah, it kind of is, but it was more annoying when the limit for creating or usurping was 50% and you would occasionally wind up usurping the title back and forth. To those who know: are those numbers separate and exported for easy modification? Like, if I wanted to set it so that you only needed 50% to create a duchy but 51% to usurp it, is that possible?
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Winter Stormer posted:Yeah, it kind of is, but it was more annoying when the limit for creating or usurping was 50% and you would occasionally wind up usurping the title back and forth. Yep! defines.lua: code:
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grancheater posted:I will not be blackmailed! Now just give him the wink and it will be perfect.
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Something is REALLY hosed up with this Elective Monarchy system. Okay, this is the deal. I got my son to marry the heir of Sweden and everything was just peachy until her brother Dan was born. Easy fix, right? Just stab him a bit and it should go back to the way it was. Except after he dies, it goes to some uncle. When you kill HIM it goes to some random cousin or some poo poo. I switch over to the King of Sweden, fix everything up, switch back and kill the King via console command to make sure it sticks. Now my heir is married to the Queen of Sweden and everything is just fine EXCEPT the heir to Sweden isn't one of their kids. I switch over to her and attempt to nominate an heir and NONE of the kids are in the options available. How can you be the Queen of Sweden and not be able to elect your own kids?! And it has nothing to do with the dynasty either since previous options have been from other dynasties and it can't have to do with age EITHER because some other children were in the options too.
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Jun 22, 2013 22:43
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Lareine posted:Something is REALLY hosed up with this Elective Monarchy system. Were the people from the other dynasties that got elected either landed in Sweden or claimants? AfroSquirrel posted:Now just give him the wink and it will be perfect. 
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Nolanar posted:Yep! defines.lua: Just tried this and edited the DEJURE_COUNTY_LIMIT_TO_CREATE value to 0.50 but I still can't form a duchy with 2/4 of the counties in my control. It shows that the "2/4" requirement is green but it says I don't have enough gold, which I do. The notification at the top telling me that I can create the title is not appearing as well.
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Does anyone actually enjoy playing as a Muslim? I's impossible to manage decadence on characters outside your realm.
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It's weird how...normal things can look after you beat back the Vikings. P.S. Alfred the Great is an amazingly fun start. 
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Jun 22, 2013 23:38
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Who's getting stabbed? I don't see any stabbing in that picture.
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Jun 22, 2013 23:46
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DrSunshine posted:The fair thing would be for someone to release a mod that turns off Mongols. I would seriously pay cold hard cash for an official DLC that does this, holy poo poo. I just wanted to be a Persian without getting my dick kicked in by the Ilkhanate  Although once I did see Persia totally survive the Ilkhanate invasion, because they decided to move in on the Golden Horde's turf instead. Of course, that's when I wasn't playing as Persia.  Can't wait for the inevitable Golden Horde arrival 
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In my Irish Viking game every young girl that is captured during a raid ends up lesbian when they grow up. I'm starting to wonder if my cruel lesbian daughter is to blame for this. 
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Newbie gavelkind questions.... So im ireland starting. What happens exactly when i die with two sons and several daughters? Does the oldest get the kingdom as a whole and the other a county? How about the daughters? Will one son be resentful and try rebelling?
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Gavelkind is a bit wonky all around. Generally daughters won't get anything, pretenders won't be too unhappy. Your oldest son should get the kingdom title and, if you only got one, the duchy. On a county level things get a bit random.
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Always nice when Gavelkind succession problems solve themselves. (No savescumming involved) Just a shame that that one guy is absolutely terrible, all my daughters have amazing traits.
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Zotix posted:Newbie gavelkind questions.... So, in order. The idea is that your titles will be split evenly, but it's fairly screwed up at the moment. Most likely, your eldest will receive the kingdom and one county, while your second son will get nearly everything else. What happens with your daughters depends on the other half of your succession rules: if you're under (true) cognatic, they'll inherit equally with your sons; if you're under agnatic-cognatic, they would only inherit if you had no sons; and if you're under agnatic, they'd be bypassed completely, and your titles would revert to an older family member if you didn't have sons. And yeah, your other kids would be pretenders and claimants to the throne of Ireland, and could cause a serious ruckus if you're unlucky. Ambitious siblings are the most likely to cause a problem, due to the "wants stuff from you + ambitious" opinion malus and their tendency to join and create factions. The best bet here is to slay your brother and convert to a better succession scheme ASAP. I'm a fan of elective, personally, though it can bite you in the rear end if you're not careful or have multiple elective titles.
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Magyars are funny, I did like somebody suggested and held on to all the holdings in Bulgaria and de jure hungary not in boehmian hands. Once I had 25k troops I turned into Hungary. So I now have three stacks of 25k event troops. It took a few years though and I probably lost out on about 30 gold a month for 5 or 6 years. I have no difficulty bar when I load the savegame.
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So for anyone that wants to play as Norse traders but doesn't know how to change the starting nations... You can start as the non senior member of one if the trade republics and use conquest CB to take enough territory to make a duchy then sue for independence. You can set up shop wherever you want since you can conquest any coastal territory and after taking 2-3 counties you can over power anything your doge will send at you.
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A Tartan Tory posted:It's weird how...normal things can look after you beat back the Vikings. The Alfred the Great start obviously has a lot of potential, but I just can't seem to beat back Ivar the Boneless. He just throws 10k doomstacks at my few thousand guys. How do you guys go about beating him? It doesn't help that despite his amazing stats Alfred starts as with only two counties and his craven brother for a liege (who just won't die).
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Amnistar posted:So for anyone that wants to play as Norse traders but doesn't know how to change the starting nations... I just used the console. 
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I was expecting something special for sacrificing the freaking Pope. 
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Lawman 0 posted:I was expecting something special for sacrificing the freaking Pope. Bask in the warm glow of
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Dallan Invictus posted:Bask in the warm glow of Actually im not sure if I should feel very proud of myself since the pope is not the vassal of anyone and is basically sitting in rome watching all his gold pile up until I send my goons to break in for a bit of smash and grab.
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Lawman 0 posted:Actually im not sure if I should feel very proud of myself since the pope is not the vassal of anyone and is basically sitting in rome watching all his gold pile up until I send my goons to break in for a bit of smash and grab. Yeah, it seems like you should ransom him instead, if you capture him. He's a king-level ruler, right? I imagine his ransom is 250 or so.
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