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ronya posted:Given that the Court is apparently old and that humans only occupy a minority of the buildings, it is seems reasonable to suppose that the robots maintain the place. The students travel substantial distances just to go to a robot barber, someone has to keep the maglevs running. Oh, I figured that the parts which are actually used, even in the slightest, are maintained by robot and human society working together, as are the infrastructure links, but I suspect that the majority of the unused Court is simply left to its own devices.
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RandomPauI posted:Wow, Jones played matchmaker? She's been around as long as humanity (longer actually). It isn't surprising that she had a solid grasp on how people interact. She needs to, just to fake emotions and so forth.
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Jun 23, 2013 11:42
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I'm inclined to lump her in with Dr. Manhattan. They say they aren't aware of having emotions but that doesn't mean there aren't any.
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Jun 23, 2013 11:50
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I think she had a perfectly normal range of human emotions, and then spent 4.54 billion years with no-one to talk to, and is now a bit nuts.
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Heavy Zed posted:The Donlans have gone on holiday around Europe. Kat even sent Annie some pictures. Could've been a stargate buried in the Court somewhere, etc. The suggestion that the Court exists in some parallel dimension was a popular one a while ago, to explain how Zimmy could've come from Birmingham, England.
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Jun 23, 2013 21:23
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Hodgepodge posted:She's been around as long as humanity (longer actually). It isn't surprising that she had a solid grasp on how people interact. She needs to, just to fake emotions and so forth. Yeah there ain't anything fake going on with Jones's emotions. Despite what she claims, I'm pretty sure perfect mimicry of emotions, down to small, personal gestures of grief, is indistinguishable from the real thing. We can leave the qualia to the p-zombies.
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A big flaming stink posted:Yeah there ain't anything fake going on with Jones's emotions. Despite what she claims, I'm pretty sure perfect mimicry of emotions, down to small, personal gestures of grief, is indistinguishable from the real thing. We can leave the qualia to the p-zombies. If you make a video recording of a person acting like a person, that doesn't make the recording an actual person with emotions and whatever. It's still a recording.
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SHISHKABOB posted:If you make a video recording of a person acting like a person, that doesn't make the recording an actual person with emotions and whatever. It's still a recording. If your recording is completely indistinguishable from an actual person, you can't create a definition of person that excludes it.
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Jun 23, 2013 21:48
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Heavy Zed posted:The Donlans have gone on holiday around Europe. Kat even sent Annie some pictures. cptn_dr posted:The River Annan is a real river in Scotland. So it's entirely possible that the Court is in Scotland. Kat captions the first photo with "Still in Scotland" which I never caught the first time around.
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A big flaming stink posted:Yeah there ain't anything fake going on with Jones's emotions. Despite what she claims, I'm pretty sure perfect mimicry of emotions, down to small, personal gestures of grief, is indistinguishable from the real thing. We can leave the qualia to the p-zombies. (though as before, I think she has/had emotions and is just severely psychologically damaged)
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Splicer posted:I think she had a perfectly normal range of human emotions, and then spent 4.54 billion years with no-one to talk to, and is now a bit nuts. I don't know. What's a normal range of human emotions for an indestructible, immortal being who has no needs, no fears, no desires? One thing's for sure: something is driving her, otherwise she would have never gotten out of that ocean floor.
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Jun 23, 2013 23:49
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I subscribe to the theory that that Jones story isn't to be taken at face value. No idea at exactly what value it is to be taken, though.
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Jun 24, 2013 00:31
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Cyphoderus posted:I subscribe to the theory that that Jones story isn't to be taken at face value. You mean the whole origin story, or her description of herself as unliving and emotionless?
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Blackheart posted:You mean the whole origin story, or her description of herself as unliving and emotionless? More the origin story. In much the same way as Zimmy's awful city isn't real exactly, it's something her own mind creates, nothing stops Jones' origin story from being... you know. Not true. After all, the only source we have is Jones herself. That's hardly reliable. Her description of herself has the same problem. Why should we consider her a reliable source at all?
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Cyphoderus posted:More the origin story. In much the same way as Zimmy's awful city isn't real exactly, it's something her own mind creates, nothing stops Jones' origin story from being... you know. Not true. After all, the only source we have is Jones herself. That's hardly reliable. Her description of herself has the same problem. Why should we consider her a reliable source at all? Because all avenues of information point towards Jones as being a truthful, non-forgetting sort of person. Granted, that doesn't mean you're wrong, but it would be a bit more out of the blue than Tea-san usually goes. I vaguely remembers Jones from way back when, but I could be wrong in that regard. Also Coyote.
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Maybe Jones' story is true in the same sense that Coyotes' stories are true. Belief and reality kind of intermingle in this world.
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Jun 24, 2013 01:43
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I'm voting that Jones is literally Satan.
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Jun 24, 2013 01:47
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Things need not have happened to be true.
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Jun 24, 2013 02:00
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Jones is a robot. Why else would she try to deny it?
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Yoya posted:Jones is a robot. Why else would she try to deny it? But robots don't lie. A robot confirmed this. It would cause a paradox, causing Jones to self-destruct!
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Blackheart posted:But robots don't lie. A robot confirmed this. It would cause a paradox, causing Jones to self-destruct! Yeah, like Jones wouldn't have paradox-absorbing crumple zones.
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seravid posted:One thing's for sure: something is driving her, otherwise she would have never gotten out of that ocean floor. The question I was left with after that chapter was: why did she hunt the auroch? It's the first time (chronologically) that we see her associating with humans, and here she is helping them get dinner. If she's really as unfeeling as all that, what purpose is there in this?
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idonotlikepeas posted:The question I was left with after that chapter was: why did she hunt the auroch? It's the first time (chronologically) that we see her associating with humans, and here she is helping them get dinner. If she's really as unfeeling as all that, what purpose is there in this? Curiosity?
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idonotlikepeas posted:The question I was left with after that chapter was: why did she hunt the auroch? It's the first time (chronologically) that we see her associating with humans, and here she is helping them get dinner. If she's really as unfeeling as all that, what purpose is there in this? You got it backwards, early human society coalesced around her longtime hobby of buffalo wrestling
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Curiosity is an emotion. And we all know her real hobby is hosting a dating advice call-in show.
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I hold the theory that Jones isn't an etheric being at all, but some sort of misfired attempt at time travel. Some entity (smart money's on the Court, of course) attempts to send a volunteer chrononaut back in time and instead by accident her personal timeline gets ... smeared all across history. That's why she can't be injured or even her hair cut; at every moment in time, from her origin back to the destination, she remains as she was at the very instant she was sent, and the timeline prevents any paradox by making her inviolate. This would also help explain how she appeared way back when with a fairly modern hair style. She now perceives her timeline in the forward direction, gathering experiences along the way, to eventually either merge with her human template or see her own origin as it happens. I've had theories about this comic before, of course, so your grain of salt size should be very large.
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idonotlikepeas posted:The question I was left with after that chapter was: why did she hunt the auroch? It's the first time (chronologically) that we see her associating with humans, and here she is helping them get dinner. If she's really as unfeeling as all that, what purpose is there in this? She herself mentions that she thought she was like other humans, at first. She probably started mingling with them very early on, trying to get to know them better.
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Cyphoderus posted:More the origin story. In much the same way as Zimmy's awful city isn't real exactly, it's something her own mind creates, nothing stops Jones' origin story from being... you know. Not true. After all, the only source we have is Jones herself. That's hardly reliable. Her description of herself has the same problem. Why should we consider her a reliable source at all? Just wanted to note that in that chapter they did cover that there was material evidence that Jones's story is true. Her footprint was found in presumably very ancient rock, implying she walked across it as it was cooling.
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dyzzy posted:She herself mentions that she thought she was like other humans, at first. She probably started mingling with them very early on, trying to get to know them better. I gotta say, this doesn't make a lot of sense. Jones witnessed human evolution first hand, I can't imagine it took Art for her to realize they have so little in common. I would think seeing these fragile creatures constantly dying from injury, disease, hunger or predators, and constantly reproducing to extend their insignificant life span would do the trick just fine. Also, just to nitpick: would she be accepted amongst prehistoric Man? She looks pretty drat different from them... I suppose killing big game single-handedly would work, but wouldn't that work too well? She'd be like a god to them. Better check cave paintings for depictions of the Great Blonde Hunter.
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This is what I have been waiting for. What a gorgeous page.
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Goddamn, Coyote is a prick here. EDIT: He's a prick everywhere, but especially here he's convincing Renard to literally kill a man.
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Not so happy.
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Jun 24, 2013 08:04
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Jun 24, 2013 08:04
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Confirmed: Coyote manipulates emotions, still a jerk.
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He can't help it, it's part of his nature!
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