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The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

Flattest Fish posted:

So, how does the bad thread feel about older GRRM stories such as "Fevre Dream", etc.-


Opinion of "Wild Cards" not required.

The incest story that's clearly about him loving his sisters is American Tolkien as balls.

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Urdnot Fire
Feb 13, 2012

A GLISTENING HODOR posted:

The incest story that's clearly about him loving his sisters is American Tolkien as balls.
For sure. I recommend Portraits of His Children to all my show-watcher friends:

quote:

He woke suddenly, in darkness, to the light touch of skin against his foot.

Cissy was perched on top of the footboard, a red satin sheet wrapped around her, a long slim leg exploring under his blankets. She was playing footsie with him, and smiling mischievously. "Hi, Daddy," she said.

Cantling had been afraid of this. It had been in his mind all evening. Sleep had not come easily. He pulled his foot away and struggled to a sitting position.

Cissy pouted. "Don't you want to play?" she asked.

"I," he said, "I don't believe this. This can't be real."

"It can still be fun," she said.

"What the hell is Michelle doing to me? How can this be happening?"

She shrugged. The sheet slipped a little; one perfect red-tipped eighteen-year-old breast peeked out.

"You still have eighteen-year-old tits," Cantling said numbly. "You'll always have eighteen-year-old tits."

Cissy laughed. "Sure. You can borrow them, if you like, Daddy. I'll bet you can think of something interesting to do with them."

"Stop calling me Daddy," Cantling said.

"Oh, but you are my Daddy," Cissy said in her little-girl voice.

"Stop that!" Cantling said.

"Why? You want to, Daddy, you want to play with your little girl, don't you?" She winked. "Vice is nice but incest is best. The families that play together stay together." She looked around. "I like four-posters. You want to tie me up, Daddy? I'd like that."

quote:

Cissy reached through the folds of his robe, shoved her hand inside his briefs, squeezed him gently. "Liar," she said. "You want me. You've always wanted me. I'll bet you used to stop and jack off when you were writing the sex scenes."

"No," Cantling said. "Never."

"Never?" She pouted. Her hand moved up and down. "Well, I bet you wanted to. I bet you got hard anyway. I bet you got hard every time you described me."

"I," he said. The denial would not come. "Cissy, please."

"Please," she murmured. Her hand was busy. "Yes, please." She tugged at his briefs and they fluttered to the floor. "Please," she said. She untied his robe and helped him out of it. "Please." Her hand moved along his side, played with his nipples; she stepped closer, and her breasts pressed lightly against his chest. "Please," she said, and she looked up at him. Her tongue moved between her lips.

Richard Cantling groaned and took her in his trembling arms.

She was like no woman he had ever had. Her touch was fire and satin, electric, and her secret places were sweet as honey.

In It For The Tank
Feb 17, 2011

But I've yet to figure out a better way to spend my time.
GRRM has written some pretty good horror but also

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Urdnot Fire posted:

For sure. I recommend Portraits of His Children to all my show-watcher friends:



It's been nice, but it hasn't been that nice.

HoAssHo
Mar 10, 2005

:love::love::love:

Flattest Fish posted:

So, how does the bad thread feel about older GRRM stories such as "Fevre Dream", etc.-


Opinion of "Wild Cards" not required.

I've said this before but what made me pick up AGOT way back when it first came out was that I loved GRRM's sci-fi anthology Sandkings in highschool (it's out of print now, but I believe all of those stories can be found in other anthologies). I read some of those stories several times - particularly In the House of the Worm - so when I saw that he had written a fantasy novel, I bought it immediately because I was an even bigger fantasy nerd than a sci-fi nerd at the time.

I haven't read any of those stories in probably 15 years though, so I have no idea if they would stand up today or if they only seemed so good back then because I was a dumb kid. Probably the latter.

Edit: oddly, I've never read Fevre Dream or any of his other novels though.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Sammy, you are about to get told by Azure_Horizon about just how loving amazing Sandkings is. He sleeps with a copy under his pillow. When he makes love, he doesn't look at or even think about his partner, no, his lust is consumed with thoughts of Sandkings.

Sandkings. King of Sands. King... of Literature.

rejutka
May 28, 2004

by zen death robot
Wouldn't that chafe and scratch and poo poo?

Oberst
May 24, 2010

Fertilizing threads since 2010
The Meat Puppet Man or whatever is pretty terrifying, especially that scene where he has sex with a puppet corpse

The Mutato
Feb 23, 2011

Neil deGrasse Highson

Urdnot Fire posted:

For sure. I recommend Portraits of His Children to all my show-watcher friends:

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

Urdnot Fire posted:

For sure. I recommend Portraits of His Children to all my show-watcher friends:

HoAssHo
Mar 10, 2005

:love::love::love:

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

Sammy, you are about to get told by Azure_Horizon about just how loving amazing Sandkings is. He sleeps with a copy under his pillow. When he makes love, he doesn't look at or even think about his partner, no, his lust is consumed with thoughts of Sandkings.

Sandkings. King of Sands. King... of Literature.

Well, if the Irish Joe of The Bad Thread loves it that much, I guess that answers my question as to whether or not it's actually as good as it seemed to me as a teenager. Apparently Sandkings is a bloated and boring disappointment.

mythicknight
Jan 28, 2009

my thick night

I just realized that the show will somehow have to reconcile Jaime & Brienne arriving at King's Landing before Joff's wedding.

I'm not looking forward to seeing Jaime cradling his freshly-choked son and sobbing while Tyrion gets dragged away by guards.

SaviourX
Sep 30, 2003

The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, or Eartha Kitt.

Devorum posted:

I just thought King's Landing as Baltimore was believable in the short fanfic.

I could see Omar down Flea Bottom way, robbing Milk of the Poppy stashes with a crossbow.


There's a few more floating around way back in the thread here if you peep my history. I'd post them in The Wire thread, but it's a no-place consisting of both TVIV but also people that have taste, so..?

HaitianDivorce
Jul 29, 2012

mythicknight posted:

I just realized that the show will somehow have to reconcile Jaime & Brienne arriving at King's Landing before Joff's wedding.

I'm not looking forward to seeing Jaime cradling his freshly-choked son and sobbing while Tyrion gets dragged away by guards.

Doesn't he not really give a poo poo though? I thought (from the half of Feast I could force myself through) that he didn't really like Joffrey and totally recognized he was a little poo poo. Part of his "I've been a terrible person with my incest n' stuff arc" (as opposed to Brienne's "I'm going to do nothing interesting that the reader knows isn't going to lead to anything good arc" my god how did an editor let that poo poo slip through)

ShaqDiesel
Mar 21, 2013

In It For The Tank posted:

GRRM has written some pretty good horror but also

This is outstanding. How about this gem from AFFC?: "...was there ever a woman with nipples so large or so responsive?"

In real life you have to choose but I guess that's what makes this fantasy.

nuncle jimbo
Apr 3, 2009

:pcgaming:

Urdnot Fire posted:

For sure. I recommend Portraits of His Children to all my show-watcher friends:

The Mutato
Feb 23, 2011

Neil deGrasse Highson
Fun on facebook with my friend I repost all the terrible poo poo from this thread to:

savinhill
Mar 28, 2010

SammyWhereAreYou posted:

Well, if the Irish Joe of The Bad Thread loves it that much, I guess that answers my question as to whether or not it's actually as good as it seemed to me as a teenager. Apparently Sandkings is a bloated and boring disappointment.

Nah, Sandkings is legit good. Fevre Dream is a good story too, I'm usually not into vampire books but GRRM's take on them was interesting.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Necroscope is the best vampire novel.

Sorry, folks, it's true. When other fiction catches up to vampires being alien amoeba from another dimension, then we can talk like equals.

Hunky Joe
Dec 21, 2005

I'll fight crime when I feel like it...

Urdnot Fire posted:

For sure. I recommend Portraits of His Children to all my show-watcher friends:

Let's see...

Incest? Check
Description of nipples? Check
Shameful boner? Probably. Check.
Pedophilia? Nope.

3/4 on a GURM scale.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Hunky Joe posted:

Let's see...

Incest? Check
Description of nipples? Check
Shameful boner? Probably. Check.
Pedophilia? Nope.

3/4 on a GURM scale.

No lengthy descriptions of food.

Li Dawny
Apr 14, 2013

As someone who's been trying to read the first book for six months, I don't understand how you guys got through five.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Really easily mostly. I actually find it quite the page turner, especially since almost everything I read is nonfiction, and some of it very academic.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Li Dawny posted:

As someone who's been trying to read the first book for six months, I don't understand how you guys got through five.

With an entire litre of hand creme.

Urdnot Fire
Feb 13, 2012

Li Dawny posted:

As someone who's been trying to read the first book for six months, I don't understand how you guys got through five.
Roy Dotrice is your friend.

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.



Urdnot Fire posted:

Roy Dotrice is your friend.

This man speaks truth. I found it unreadable in print, but easy to get through spoken.

Rannos22
Mar 30, 2011

Everything's the same as it always is.

Urdnot Fire posted:

Roy Dotrice is your friend.

Cannot agree with this more. Mr Dotrice was a great companion for my long commutes (except for those times he started talking like a sailor and describing the pornos he watched over the weekend :gonk:)

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
You guys are pansies. I started off my ASoIaF experience by seeing cool :black101: gifs from the first season and deciding to watch S01E10 first because ~free HBO weekend~ and then moved on to reading the dead tree books because I needed to see how Joffrey dies.

The perspective chapter format is ridiculously addictive too. You'll read one you don't like and then tell yourself 'I'm putting the book down after this' and then end up sneaking a peek at the next chapter and holy poo poo it's someone I care about (Tyrion) and end up going on like this for hours.

Then there was ADWD. That's when the drinking games become necessary and everything slows down.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Hey jerks, I want to buy a first edition book to have GRRM sign:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3556341&pagenumber=1#lastpost

rejutka
May 28, 2004

by zen death robot
Why would I listen to a book?

:rhetoricalquestion:

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

syscall girl posted:



It's been nice, but it hasn't been that nice.

This should be the new thread title.

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Reene

Flattest Fish posted:

So, how does the bad thread feel about older GRRM stories such as "Fevre Dream", etc.-


Opinion of "Wild Cards" not required.

Sandkings is his best work, Fevre Dream is an above-average vampire tale, and Tuf Voyaging has quite a few fascinating short stories on the dangers of loving with the environment and ecology of a planet.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

See?! You got TOLD! :nyd:

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Li Dawny posted:

As someone who's been trying to read the first book for six months, I don't understand how you guys got through five.

We've had 16 years. It can be done.

Stay Safe
Sep 1, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

pentyne posted:

We've had 16 years. It can be done.

One week from now, this thread will reach its second birthday, coming to at least 679 pages (surpassing the record of all other bad threads) of primarily book-based discussion and comparative analysis with the television show, along with sides of GRRM loathing.

I only mention this because we will have to wait a while for Winter to come out, so we might as well celebrate every minor event we can.

savinhill
Mar 28, 2010
We'll reach the page count of one of the shorter books in the series, maybe of one of the big ones even. Bad Thread is written, one post at a time, faster than a Gurm book, and that's without the padding of endless food description.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Dead Man Posting posted:

One week from now, this thread will reach its second birthday, coming to at least 679 pages (surpassing the record of all other bad threads) of primarily book-based discussion and comparative analysis with the television show, along with sides of GRRM loathing.

I only mention this because we will have to wait a while for Winter to come out, so we might as well celebrate every minor event we can.

*Clears throat* ... tum ta da tum ...



I farted.

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Hunky Joe posted:

Let's see...

Incest? Check
Description of nipples? Check
Shameful boner? Probably. Check.
Pedophilia? Nope.

3/4 on a GURM scale.

making GBS threads?

AppropriateUser
Feb 17, 2012

HaitianDivorce posted:

Doesn't he not really give a poo poo though? I thought (from the half of Feast I could force myself through) that he didn't really like Joffrey and totally recognized he was a little poo poo. Part of his "I've been a terrible person with my incest n' stuff arc" (as opposed to Brienne's "I'm going to do nothing interesting that the reader knows isn't going to lead to anything good arc" my god how did an editor let that poo poo slip through)

Briennes chapters are an excuse for him to show side stuff about other, more interesting people. Here's Sams rear end in a top hat dad! Here's Gendry! Here's Lady Stoneheart! Here's a Septon who speaks in bullshit and metaphor but also lets you know that the Hound is alive and that Aegon is a Blackfyre! We done? Okay, hang her so she can sell out Jaimie in six years.

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HaitianDivorce
Jul 29, 2012

Potooweet posted:

Briennes chapters are an excuse for him to show side stuff about other, more interesting people. Here's Sams rear end in a top hat dad! Here's Gendry! Here's Lady Stoneheart! Here's a Septon who speaks in bullshit and metaphor but also lets you know that the Hound is alive and that Aegon is a Blackfyre! We done? Okay, hang her so she can sell out Jaimie in six years.

Wait what? I just scanned over the section in my copy and I didn't see anything hinting toward that. And even if he is a Blackfyre I still think I'd like him more than Dany because he ends ADwD actually loving accomplishing something rather than making GBS threads himself back where he started.

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