Canadian Politics Megathread: That is simply not Trudeau

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Dallan Invictus: Oct 11, 2007; The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes, look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.

Helsing posted:

The incessant complaining about NDP partisanship in this thread is really weird. There are plenty of biases on display in here but slavish consistency to the NDP platform certainly isn't one of them. Who in this thread has ever rabidly defended the current incarnation of the NDP?

I think people are using "NDP partisanship" as shorthand for "the Canadian equivalent of the constant leftier-than-thou dogpile that characterises the rest of the forum".

This is inaccurate as hell for several reasons, but whatcha gonna do.

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Blade_of_tyshalle: Jul 12, 2009; If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Oh, a new email from the NDP! I wonder what's u--

:siren:

IT'S US VERSUS THEM :supaburn:

Stephen Harper's corporate cronies are going to fund his Eternal Conservative Reich unless I give Thom Mulcair $20 right now, oh gently caress oh gently caress oh gently caress :gonk:

# ? Jun 27, 2013 00:10

cowofwar: Jul 30, 2002; by Athanatos

Helsing posted:

The incessant complaining about NDP partisanship in this thread is really weird. There are plenty of biases on display in here but slavish consistency to the NDP platform certainly isn't one of them. Who in this thread has ever rabidly defended the current incarnation of the NDP?

From what I can tell elsewhere, if you don't hold neoliberal ideals then you're an NDP Marxist/Communist.

# ? Jun 27, 2013 00:10

Squibbles: Aug 24, 2000; Mwaha ha HA ha!

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

Oh, a new email from the NDP! I wonder what's u--

IT'S US VERSUS THEM

Stephen Harper's corporate cronies are going to fund his Eternal Conservative Reich unless I give Thom Mulcair $20 right now, oh gently caress oh gently caress oh gently caress

Also I just got a phone call yesterday asking me to start donating to my local riding association in addition to the national party.

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quaint bucket: Nov 29, 2007

Typical leftists asking for handouts and calling it a donation :smugdog:

# ? Jun 27, 2013 00:38

Paper Jam Dipper: Jul 14, 2007; by XyloJW

Justin Trudeau knows his emails are annoying so the subject line for his last was, "It's me again"

# ? Jun 27, 2013 01:01

BGrifter: Mar 16, 2007; Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!

Paper Jam Dipper posted:

Justin Trudeau knows his emails are annoying so the subject line for his last was, "It's me again"

I liked the one where he thanked me for making him Liberal leader. Worked hard on that one. Those dog-ate-my-homework deadline jokes don't write themselves.

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cougar cub: Jun 28, 2004

lonelywurm posted:

The Awful Party of Canada: we shine light on the darkness.

I propose we implement a jobs program that consists of reshaping all of southern Ontario to more closely resemble a cock and balls.

This is awesome. I hope you don't mind if it gets used as an avatar at some point in the future.

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Stoven: Feb 11, 2008

What if we elect parliament by FPTP and senate by PR then they can duke it out on the hill.

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Sovy Kurosei: Oct 9, 2012

Stoven posted:

What if we elect parliament by FPTP and senate by PR then they can duke it out on the hill.

I kinda like this idea but it will never happen.

# ? Jun 27, 2013 06:14

colonel_korn: May 16, 2003

Sorry for the Sun News link, but oh god :gonk:

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/2491255757001

He sounds like a Miss America contestant.

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Lexicon: Jul 29, 2003; I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

wrong thread

# ? Jun 27, 2013 12:44

bunnyofdoom: Mar 29, 2008; [b]BUNNIES ARE CUTE BUT DEADLY/b]

Oh Boy! More half-baked seperatists

New party wants a sovereign 'State of Vancouver Island' posted:

By Ben Ingram, Special To The Echo; -Nanaimo Daily News June 25, 2013

A new political party wants to be on the ballots during the next federal election in Canada - the Sovereign State of Vancouver Island Party.

The SSVI announced its 'official' formation on Tuesday and the party intends to challenge the Canadian government, first against electoral boundaries.

"We feel that the people of Vancouver Island could significantly benefit as a separate and sovereign state," said the party's secretary, Richard Robin Creech.

SSVI had planned to announce its existence at a later date, said Creech, but a discussion at the June 10 Village of Cumberland council boiled their blood.

Conservative Party MPs John Duncan and James Lunney submitted a proposal to the BC Electoral Boundaries Commission to tweak the current proposed maps.

The Lunney and Duncan proposal would see their ridings redrawn in a way that would avoid carving the City of Courtenay down the middle.

If enacted the altered proposal would, however, divide the Village of Cumberland.

For the SSVI, it's the straw that broke the camel's back, as the party announced on Tuesday that it would challenge the federal government's "neglect, intransigence and oversight."

Their solution: separate from Canada.

"We strongly feel that Cumberland should be considered as an indivisible, whole entity and not split in half," Creech said.

The party's secretary promised that SSVI would have "a lot more to say" in the coming months and years as the organization matures.

Their opening salvo against Canadian federalism occurred before the party was ready, Creech admitted, but the Victoria-based SSVI expects to expand its reach across Vancouver Island.

Nanaimo-Cowichan MP Jean Crowder likened it to an expression of frustration.

Transportation challenges and efforts to improve the food security and self-sufficiency of Vancouver Island highlight the difference between islanders and mainlanders, she said.

"I don't see a real will to unilaterally set ourselves up as an independent island," she said.

Nanaimo Museum curator David Hill-Turner said the idea of separation is an old one.

He pointed to original debates at the province's joining of confederation in 1871.

"People were looking more to the South than to the East," he said.

Man, I know we started this whole thing, but why the hell are people wanting to copy Rick Perry so badly?

(Also, their website doesn't work)

# ? Jun 27, 2013 16:29

JohnnyCanuck: May 28, 2004; Strong And/Or Free

bunnyofdoom posted:

Oh Boy! More half-baked seperatists

It's still bad form to just post laughter after a quote, right? Because I want to. I want to so bad.

# ? Jun 27, 2013 16:45

Blade_of_tyshalle: Jul 12, 2009; If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

A travesty! Vancouver Island cannot be allowed to leave. Canada cannot afford to lose its tactical supply of authentic Nanaimo bars! :mad:

# ? Jun 27, 2013 17:10

Paper Jam Dipper: Jul 14, 2007; by XyloJW

You know what?

Let them separate.

# ? Jun 27, 2013 17:12

bunnyofdoom: Mar 29, 2008; [b]BUNNIES ARE CUTE BUT DEADLY/b]

To be fair, a good portion of the navy is based out of Vancouver Island. So, we'd lose those ports for a month until they come crawling back.

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Ceciltron: Jan 11, 2007; Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!; Pillbug

Canada's PERILOUS HOUSE OF CARDS is FINALLY COLLAPSING!!!!

# ? Jun 27, 2013 17:29

Dolash: Oct 23, 2008; aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,

Sometimes it's fun to imagine the dominoes falling for some reason and all of Canada breaking up. When I lived in the Maritimes, there was always a lot of confusion regarding what Quebec separatism would mean for New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, PEI and Newfoundland (and Labrador - actually, maybe especially them!). Some people seemed to take it as given that we'd just separate too, or that we'd join the States.

# ? Jun 27, 2013 17:37

Paper Jam Dipper: Jul 14, 2007; by XyloJW

Dolash posted:

Sometimes it's fun to imagine the dominoes falling for some reason and all of Canada breaking up. When I lived in the Maritimes, there was always a lot of confusion regarding what Quebec separatism would mean for New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, PEI and Newfoundland (and Labrador - actually, maybe especially them!). Some people seemed to take it as given that we'd just separate too, or that we'd join the States.

My favourite sci-fi is where North America is now a smashed collection of countries resembling Europe. Then again, life would probably be better that way.

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colonel_korn: May 16, 2003

I moved to St John's a couple years ago and was interested to see how much more popular the Newfoundland Republic flag is here than the official provincial flag. Though that may be largely because it looks cooler.

(I think they basically just ripped off Ireland's flag in the 1880s and changed the orange to pink because they didn't like Protestants)

# ? Jun 27, 2013 17:48

HackensackBackpack: Aug 20, 2007; Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

colonel_korn posted:

I moved to St John's a couple years ago and was interested to see how much more popular the Newfoundland Republic flag is here than the official provincial flag. Though that may be largely because it looks cooler.

(I think they basically just ripped off Ireland's flag in the 1880s and changed the orange to pink because they didn't like Protestants)

See, if they had changed the green to brown, they could have had an ice cream flag.

# ? Jun 27, 2013 17:50

Helsing: Aug 23, 2003; DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU JOE BIDEN

bunnyofdoom posted:

To be fair, a good portion of the navy is based out of Vancouver Island. So, we'd lose those ports for a month until they come crawling back.

Alternatively we can refuse to vacate the military bases, erect huge walls around them, keep paying Vancouver Island $1 a year in rent, and then later we can keep our prisoners of war there so they don't have recourse to Canadian courts!

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Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

I'd unironically love a FREE VANCOUVER ISLAND. We have the best flag.

Beavers and pine cones man

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ocrumsprug: Sep 23, 2010; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

As I understand, there was a rail-line on the island that was to be maintained in perpetuity, as a condition of BC joining confederation. That line was a shut down a bunch of years ago, so maybe they could use that as their casus belli.

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bunnyofdoom: Mar 29, 2008; [b]BUNNIES ARE CUTE BUT DEADLY/b]

Helsing posted:

Alternatively we can refuse to vacate the military bases, erect huge walls around them, keep paying Vancouver Island $1 a year in rent, and then later we can keep our prisoners of war there so they don't have recourse to Canadian courts!

Pshaw. Vancouver Island doesn't make rum, and their cigars don't contain tobacco.

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Pinterest Mom: Jun 9, 2009

No flag that still has a Union Jack on it is a good flag :colbert:

ocrumsprug posted:

As I understand, there was a rail-line on the island that was to be maintained in perpetuity, as a condition of BC joining confederation. That line was a shut down a bunch of years ago, so maybe they could use that as their casus belli.

That was Newfoundland.

# ? Jun 27, 2013 18:03

Paper Jam Dipper: Jul 14, 2007; by XyloJW

Baronjutter posted:

I'd unironically love a FREE VANCOUVER ISLAND. We have the best flag.

Beavers and pine cones man

Corn on the Cob Trident.

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Franks Happy Place: Mar 15, 2011; It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the dank of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion.

Paper Jam Dipper posted:

Corn on the Cob Trident.

I assumed it was a pearl dildo.

# ? Jun 27, 2013 18:36

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Pinterest Mom posted:

No flag that still has a Union Jack on it is a good flag

Can we make an exception for BC because it has "British" in its actual name

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Blade_of_tyshalle: Jul 12, 2009; If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Only if in the opposite corner it gets to have the Colombia flag.

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peter banana: Sep 2, 2008; Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

Leofish posted:

See, if they had changed the green to brown, they could have had an ice cream flag.

I will separate with other Canadians who also love ice cream. Icecreamlandia.

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Zack_Gochuck: Jan 4, 2007; Stupid Wrestling People

colonel_korn posted:

(I think they basically just ripped off Ireland's flag in the 1880s and changed the orange to pink because they didn't like Protestants)

Believe it or not, the Newfoundland one predates the Irish flag, but it's up for debate. Oral tradition in Newfoundland says that the Newfoundland tricolor is older, but Wikipedia does not put much stock in oral tradition. Thomas Francis Meagher's father was from St. John's, so it actually does add up realistically. I think they're both a riff on the French flag.

Zack_Gochuck fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Jun 27, 2013

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Kintarooooo: Feb 10, 2004; SA > Fark > xians.

THC posted:

Can we make an exception for BC because it has "British" in its actual name

That's what makes then uncanadian.

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HookShot: Dec 26, 2005

I like how "the straw that broke the camel's back" was people in the same village having to vote in different electorates in a PROVINCIAL ELECTION :psyduck:

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Entropic: Feb 21, 2007; patriarchy sucks

Paper Jam Dipper posted:

Corn on the Cob Trident.

Does Ontario's have a marshmallow?

# ? Jun 27, 2013 20:44

unlimited shrimp: Aug 30, 2008

Leofish posted:

See, if they had changed the green to brown, they could have had an ice cream flag.

Neapolis wouldn't be impressed.

# ? Jun 27, 2013 21:08

ARACHTION: Mar 10, 2012

To go back to the Awful party, I would represent Port Moody--Westwood--Port Coquitlam and would run on the platform of immediately seceding and forming the beginnings of Cascadia.

Man, I would actually want Cascadia to be a thing.

# ? Jun 27, 2013 21:54

Saalkin: Jun 29, 2008

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

Only if in the opposite corner it gets to have the Colombia flag.

Quick and dirty

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Funkdreamer: Jul 15, 2005; It'll be a blast

Horrifying

quote:

Canada looks to put GPS bracelets on more migrants

STEVEN CHASE
OTTAWA � The Globe and Mail
Published Thursday, Jun. 27 2013, 6:00 AM EDT
Last updated Thursday, Jun. 27 2013, 7:00 AM EDT

The Canadian government is looking at whether to expand the use of satellite technology to monitor asylum seekers or potential immigrants who would otherwise be detained, and is upgrading the equipment that would allow it to do so.

Ottawa served notice this week that it plans to sign a contract with the U.K. firm Buddi Ltd., used by police forces there to track criminals through electronic bracelet devices that the British media have dubbed �Chav Nav� tags. The technology provides real-time tracking using the same space-based Global Positioning System that drivers rely upon for in-car navigation.

If they fall into the "danger to Canada" category, a GPS bracelet is a ridiculous idea. If they fall into the "identity hasn't been established" category, maybe treat them like human beings and not dogs?

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