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I saw this in the local paper, and wondered if everybody else thought this was as bizarre as I do.
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Only because she's really not that good a singer.
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Apr 15, 2013 18:35
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I quite enjoyed the bike chases at the start. I don't know if they were better made back then or if they just got old when they started having one in every episode for no reason. Probably a bit of both.
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Apr 15, 2013 18:49
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Recursive posted:I saw this in the local paper, and wondered if everybody else thought this was as bizarre as I do. Wasn't there at least one SoA episode, maybe last season, that featured a not-great cover song that she did? Katey Sagal: Renaissance Woman edit: huh quote:Many people don't know that you used to be a backup singer for Bob Dylan and Bette Midler. What was that like? http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/katey-sagal-on-acting-and-singing-in-sons-of-anarchy-20111206#ixzz2QYduaBOv
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Apr 15, 2013 19:22
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I just wanted to pop in here and say I, contrary to most goons, love this show. If I sat here judging shows for all the unrealistic bullshit that flies out of them, and furthermore quitting due to stupid plot holes, I'd probably never watch any TV at all. SoA, if taken for a fun show about a ruthless biker club, and not comparing it to Shakespeare and other poo poo, is a lot better. I also love Walking Dead, Dexter, Arrow, and other campy and unrealistic bullshit that is on TV nowadays. To each their own! v v
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Jun 9, 2013 20:57
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Recursive posted:I saw this in the local paper, and wondered if everybody else thought this was as bizarre as I do. If memory serves, she started as a backup singer for Ike & Tina Turner (or maybe Tina solo). I remembered hearing about her moonlighting as a singer way back during Married With Children, and might have sung on a few episodes.
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Jun 9, 2013 21:47
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Holy poo poo, there's going to be a loving comic book http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=46255
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Jun 24, 2013 23:16
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Obscurity posted:I just wanted to pop in here and say I, contrary to most goons, love this show. If I sat here judging shows for all the unrealistic bullshit that flies out of them, and furthermore quitting due to stupid plot holes, I'd probably never watch any TV at all. SoA, if taken for a fun show about a ruthless biker club, and not comparing it to Shakespeare and other poo poo, is a lot better. I also love Walking Dead, Dexter, Arrow, and other campy and unrealistic bullshit that is on TV nowadays. To each their own! v I don't think anyone quit due to plot holes or it being unrealistic. In fact I think I'm the only person that quit the show or at least loudly declared it. The show started off with a good first season and amazing second and then just crap storytelling upon more crap. None of it was good drama. I quit because Opie was just so poo poo upon as a character that it made no sense at all and it was misuse of the awesome acting Ryan Hurst was providing. I legit have no idea what happened the rest of season 5 except for a transexual and Sutter literally masturbating on screen but none of it will draw me back. Sorry but your ~I'm cool because I go against goon opinion~ post is poo poo.
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Jun 24, 2013 23:30
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KidDynamite posted:I don't think anyone quit due to plot holes or it being unrealistic. In fact I think I'm the only person that quit the show or at least loudly declared it. The show started off with a good first season and amazing second and then just crap storytelling upon more crap. None of it was good drama. I quit because Opie was just so poo poo upon as a character that it made no sense at all and it was misuse of the awesome acting Ryan Hurst was providing. I legit have no idea what happened the rest of season 5 except for a transexual and Sutter literally masturbating on screen but none of it will draw me back. Sorry but your ~I'm cool because I go against goon opinion~ post is poo poo. Someone enjoys the show I stopped watching? Better call them out!
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Jun 24, 2013 23:52
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I loved the show as pretty loving good TV in the first two seasons but I've continued to enjoy it as something else. I think the potential was there for this to be one of the best shows of all time but the ratings were getting high and there was a point where it became obvious that Sutter would rather have a high number of fans than critical praise. He's a hard dude to figure out, but I think it's clear to me now that he'd rather have weekend riders love this show than TV critics.
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Jun 25, 2013 13:36
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Obscurity posted:I just wanted to pop in here and say I, contrary to most goons, love this show. If I sat here judging shows for all the unrealistic bullshit that flies out of them, and furthermore quitting due to stupid plot holes, I'd probably never watch any TV at all. SoA, if taken for a fun show about a ruthless biker club, and not comparing it to Shakespeare and other poo poo, is a lot better. I also love Walking Dead, Dexter, Arrow, and other campy and unrealistic bullshit that is on TV nowadays. To each their own! v I enjoy the show for what it is, but I will probably be in this thread making fun of it come season premiere. A close friend of mine thinks it's one of the best dramas on TV, close behind Breaking Bad. Can't say I agree with him, but oh well. I'm such a sucker for campy shows and movies. 
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Yeah, despite everything bad I've said about it, I still enjoy the show on some level, as I wouldn't waste my time hate-watching a show or whatever. And it's not a case of so-bad-it's-good either, since it's not car-crash bad enough for that (although it has got close a few times). I guess I just like the Outlaw Biker aesthetic; have some misguided hope that it might possibly return to some kind of form; and still care about some characters, although I'm not sure who, now that Oppie has gone. Let's say Chibbs.
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Jun 27, 2013 12:35
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This is one of those shows I enjoy for the most part when I'm watching it but later come into this thread to rubberneck at the live chat mocking of it.
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Jun 27, 2013 13:01
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I don't mind the show. It got a bit dumber and more "out there" as the seasons went on but I still think it's good entertainment
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Jun 28, 2013 00:46
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Said it before but it's the A-Team on motorcycles, and that hasn't changed yet. A part of me will always pointless bike chase sequences set to generic buttrock, and as long as the show delivers on that front, I'm good. e: the show would be a lot more well-regarded if it was more episodic like Justified instead of completely serialized. There wouldn't be as much pressure on the writers to come up with increasingly dumb conceits to get from plot point A to plot point B every week. Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Jun 28, 2013 |
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Jun 28, 2013 02:22
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Wow, so I'm going to against apparently every person on this thread and say I love Sons of Anarchy. LIke I mean, all 5 seasons. I felt like season three dragged out what should have been like a 3-4 episode plot into a whole season. And 5 was slightly weak, but overall I really loved the series which I binged through the past few weeks. I don't get all the hate on this thread. It seems like everyone acts like season 1 and 2 were some form of high art, but then descended into a trashy soap opera after that. WTF? I honestly found the show to be pretty ridiculous from the start, that gradually and realistically (within the universe of the show) got more ridiculous as it went on. Maybe I was watching it for different reasons as everyone else, but drat if I wasn't entertained for 65 or however many episodes. I really wish I would have planned this better and waited another 2 more months to watch this, because drat September 11 can't come fast enough! Between this, Breaking Bad, Boardwalk Empire holy poo poo September is going to be amazing!!! EDIT: Also, <3 Kurt Sutter. And <3 Otto. He was such a cartoony character from the beginning, it only seemed logical the next thing to have him do in season 5 was have him jerk it in front of Tara.
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Jul 17, 2013 00:55
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Did you watch them on a binge? This show works better that way. In between episodes most of this thread didnt have anything to do but read kurt sutter tweets where he calls people cunts. edit: you did. There ya go.
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All the hate is from the death of Opie, that's all. That said, my favorite season BY FAR was season 4. In there we fully got to see Clay become a full on villain (Dealing with Cartels, beating the gently caress out of Gemma, Piney, the truth about J.T., etc) while it also had the most gritty feel throughout each episode too. Opie's death didn't really bother me that much. My problem with season 5 was that it just felt completely dragged out. There was really no central plot at all except with Clay still being up to no good, which was basically a plot point in the previous season. Damon Pope was just a joke that was clearly put in there with the intention of imitating the persona of the ultimate badass kingpin of Gus Fring or something. I will concede though that the S5 finale set up some really interesting story arcs though, with Lee Toric/Otto in particular. That alone has me looking forward to S6.
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Jul 21, 2013 09:32
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RichardDunn posted:
Season 1 and 2 were a lot better, yes.
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Devour posted:Damon Pope was just a joke that was clearly put in there with the intention of imitating the persona of the ultimate badass kingpin of Gus Fring or something. I really disagree with this upon re-watching it. Damon Pope is part of the mentoring process Jax undergoes. He's got Nero trying to get him out of the game and Pope trying to bring out Jax's inner gangster potential. Viewed through this lens, Opie's death takes on more significance in Jax's life.
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Dead Snoopy posted:I really disagree with this upon re-watching it. Damon Pope is part of the mentoring process Jax undergoes. He's got Nero trying to get him out of the game and Pope trying to bring out Jax's inner gangster potential. Viewed through this lens, Opie's death takes on more significance in Jax's life.
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Jul 21, 2013 12:43
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Popes death had a huge purpose. Jax did it in such a way that it looks like it was Clay. Now all Pope's connections are going to come after Clay. Jax is trying to get rid of an enemy by getting someone else to kill him or at least run him out of town.
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Jul 21, 2013 18:29
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KilGrey posted:Popes death had a huge purpose. Jax did it in such a way that it looks like it was Clay. Now all Pope's connections are going to come after Clay. Jax is trying to get rid of an enemy by getting someone else to kill him or at least run him out of town.
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Jul 22, 2013 00:53
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KilGrey posted:Popes death had a huge purpose. Jax did it in such a way that it looks like it was Clay. Now all Pope's connections are going to come after Clay. Jax is trying to get rid of an enemy by getting someone else to kill him or at least run him out of town.
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deep space nein posted:Except that Clay will convince the Secret Service to protect him in exchange for selling guns to the Russians in order to take down Cuba Yeah, but then Jax will make a deal in season 7 with the United Nations NWO black helicopter army to take down Clay, the corrupt Secret Service agents and the President who's using drug violence for his own malevolent ends!
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Jul 24, 2013 14:43
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Yeah, but then Jax will make a deal in season 7 with the United Nations NWO black helicopter army to take down Clay, the corrupt Secret Service agents and the President who's using drug violence for his own malevolent ends! The show will end with Clay being the second in command of North korea and Jax driving his motorcycle gang through the demilitarised zone to get to Clay. Bobby will die when accidentally drives over a land mine.
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Jul 24, 2013 14:51
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a scene in Season 4 where as a result of doing business with the Cartels or something that somehow the SoA ended up supplying Al-Qaeda with weapons unintentionally?
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Devour posted:Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a scene in Season 4 where as a result of doing business with the Cartels or something that somehow the SoA ended up supplying Al-Qaeda with weapons unintentionally? I think the Chinese guys they were buying weapons from were getting them from Hezbollah. So, if I've got this right, SoA were selling Hezbollah weapons (like advanced rocket launchers lol) that they bought from the Chinese mafia to a Cartel that was run by the CIA. Yeah.
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Devour posted:Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a scene in Season 4 where as a result of doing business with the Cartels or something that somehow the SoA ended up supplying Al-Qaeda with weapons unintentionally? No, it was Hamas in late Season 1/early Season 2, I think. Also, Hamas doesn't sell weapons- they usually buy them.
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suboptimal posted:No, it was Hamas in late Season 1/early Season 2, I think. Also, Hamas doesn't sell weapons- they usually buy them. Also, it's going to be interesting to see who's going to be hunting Clay for that $5 million bounty.
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Jul 24, 2013 16:45
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let me give you a hint...they're gonna have black skin.
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Dead Snoopy posted:let me give you a hint...they're gonna have black skin. Devour fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Jul 24, 2013 |
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Jul 24, 2013 17:08
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No. This is clearly the way that Sutter intends to introduce next season's main adversary- the Nigerian Islamist terrorist group Boko Haram.
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Jul 24, 2013 17:15
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Devour posted:Didn't Pope say that it would be independent contractors that would be collecting the $5 million instead of his own henchmen? I'm sure Pope's own people would find a loop hole in this.
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Jul 24, 2013 17:42
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quote:"Sons of Anarchy" has traditionally debuted in the fall on FX, and that pattern will continue this year with the sixth season premiering on Tuesday, September 10 at 10 p.m. Can't wait.
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Bradeh posted:Can't wait. Why lie? They should just tell people the truth, this will be a 52 minute episode and everyone watching it legally is going to be force fed 38 minutes of commercials for lovely beer and crappy motorcycles.
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Jul 25, 2013 04:51
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Hell no there'll be an extra 20 minutes of unrelated motorcycle chases scored to whatever buttrock song was last playing on Kurt Sutter's ipod.
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comes along bort posted:Hell no there'll be an extra 20 minutes of unrelated motorcycle chases scored to whatever buttrock song was last playing on Kurt Sutter's ipod. Or a ten minute montage at the end with Katey butchering another cover.
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Jul 25, 2013 05:28
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The butt rock is one of my favorite things about the show. 
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Bradeh posted:Can't wait. quote:"Having framed Clay for the murder of Damon Pope, Season Six begins with Jax's leadership uncontested, but his family life suffering from his single-minded pursuit of John Teller's vision. Jax must find a way to keep Tara from going to prison for conspiracy to commit murder while rebuilding his club and breaking from the cycle of violence and greed that ultimately led to his best friend's death."
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