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ImpAtom posted:Man, that does not look even a little good gameplay-wise. I'm not really worried about this because I really don't expect games from the people at Cavia to actually have good combat so if it's tollerable then it's good enough for me.
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ImpAtom posted:Man, that does not look even a little good gameplay-wise. I thought the regular combat stuff seemed fine. At least Nier level, which is all I really expect. Dragon stuff looked REALLY rough though.
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# ? Jul 1, 2013 17:55 |
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Yeah, this doesn't really look that fun to play, but I'm not too worried yet. Nier wasn't exactly a slam dunk in the gameplay department, so if they at least manage to match that, I'll soldier through it. Those dragon segments do look really rough, though.
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# ? Jul 1, 2013 18:03 |
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ImpAtom posted:Man, that does not look even a little good gameplay-wise. Yeah, it doesn't look too great, but it is a Drakengard game after all - mash X til things die. Looks a bit more involved than Nier's combat, anyway - it resembles Drakengard 2's a bit. Either way it looks passable. The Dragon combat however...that looked kinda...janky. The framerate coming to a grinding halt didn't help. [e]: There's a new story up on the website. [e2]: Eng subs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ElVD9RHvIM Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Jul 1, 2013 |
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The dragon's voice is too good. Played Drakengard 1 recently and had a fairly good time with it so it would actually have to play worse than that for me to be put off by the gameplay. Probably going to import it unless they actually announce that someone is publishing it outside of Japan before it comes out there. e: the narrator at the beginning sounds like the one from the first Drakengard. Maybe I'm crazy. see you tomorrow fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Jul 1, 2013 |
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It's a Taro Yoko game, if the gameplay's more than 'passable', we'll be impressed. Besides, is anyone actually here for the button-pressing bits?
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# ? Jul 1, 2013 18:50 |
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I thought the fighting in Nier was pretty satisfying. Slamming enemies into walls with a giant sword or skewering five at a time with the spear was pretty great. Loved the magic system as well!
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# ? Jul 1, 2013 20:39 |
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I feel like I just found something special. Something very special. Very late to the party, but I just completed this game and got all the endings: A, B, C and D. I have to agree with some of the views in this thread about how it is unbelievable that this game doesn't have as much acclaim as it deserves compared to more recent games that have traversed similar territory: Bioshock, Spec-Ops The Line, The Last of Us, etc. It's like watching Total Recall and Blade Runner and not giving Philip K. Dick any credit for his original stories. Not that we need to make this a contest or anything; they are all good in their own respects. I just feel like this flew completely under the radar. In fact, the only way I knew of its existence was the soundtrack. My roommate who played the game and only got ending A would listen to the soundtrack a lot, despite his dislike for the game. I would constantly play devil's advocate and say that there is no way for a game to be bad with a soundtrack that good, despite having never played it. So, things came to a head and I ended up buying the game to prove my point (couldn't borrow it from the roommate, he had sold it out of spite). It was a hell of a ride and he has definitely changed his tune. Would people recommend playing Drakengard again? I did play it a long time ago, but I don't feel like I gave it the attention it deserved, so I'd like to give it another shot. However, perhaps it simply wouldn't be fun if the gameplay mechanics are too archaic, like trying to play Assassin's Creed 1 after having played the newest ones. I did enjoy Nier's combat, as simplistic as some people would say it is. Also, it might be a bit pointless because I did read the Grimoire and do understand how the worlds connect. I also have Drakengard II but I think that is universally canned by everyone I talk to, so I've never played it. Anyway, just glad to join the magical, depressing world of Cavia!
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# ? Jul 1, 2013 20:47 |
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FutureCop posted:Would people recommend playing Drakengard again? I did play it a long time ago, but I don't feel like I gave it the attention it deserved, so I'd like to give it another shot. However, perhaps it simply wouldn't be fun if the gameplay mechanics are too archaic, like trying to play Assassin's Creed 1 after having played the newest ones. I did enjoy Nier's combat, as simplistic as some people would say it is. Also, it might be a bit pointless because I did read the Grimoire and do understand how the worlds connect. I also have Drakengard II but I think that is universally canned by everyone I talk to, so I've never played it. Read The Dark Id's LP. don't play Drakengard.
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# ? Jul 1, 2013 20:49 |
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Renoistic posted:I thought the fighting in Nier was pretty satisfying. Slamming enemies into walls with a giant sword or skewering five at a time with the spear was pretty great. Loved the magic system as well! I loved the magic system but the normal combat was pretty sub par.
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# ? Jul 1, 2013 20:51 |
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Nyagato posted:Read The Dark Id's LP. don't play Drakengard. X See the X above? Tap it every few seconds for the next 35 minutes and you too will have experienced the all the combat depth and variety Drakengard has to offer.
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# ? Jul 1, 2013 20:53 |
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FutureCop posted:Would people recommend playing Drakengard again? NO. Read the LP of it, and save yourself having to suffer through the gameplay. Nier's combat maybe simplistic, but Drakengard's is basically "mash attack" or "use (mostly useless) magic". It's rather mindless in the gameplay sense. Drakengard 2 on the other hand, mechnically it's more enjoyable - controls better, no obvious fog-of-war, better camera, slightly more depth to the combat (enemies have specific weapon type weaknesses), etc - but the story is another matter. Drakengard 1's story and cast are refreshing in how hosed up they are, Drakengard 2's (aside from the stuff involving Caim and the Dragon) are a massive letdown. The music for both is pretty good - each for their own reasons - Drakengard 1's OST is a clusterfuck that perfectly suits the feel of the game, while Drakengard 2's is a more conventional score which sounds pretty solid. [e]: The bells. The bells. i h e a r a s o u n d . . . Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Jul 1, 2013 |
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FutureCop posted:I feel like I just found something special. Something very special. I'll be the one voice of dissent you'll hear and say sure, go for it. There's something to be said for experiencing it yourself. It isn't unplayable. The huge variety of weapons all with unique magic attached to them is a neat idea. The dragon stages can even be legitimately fun. The biggest problem by far is the grinding. To make all of those weapons actually viable you have to kill hundreds of enemies with each. There's no scaling for tougher enemies, it's just the raw number of kills, so you end up repeating the easiest stages with the most enemies again and again. It's quite bad. The best alternative is to cheat using something like a Codebreaker disc. You can pick one up on Amazon for like $30. If you rip the ISO you can even use it with an emulator. They include codes to unlock individual weapons and instantly increase them to max level. The game becomes much more bearable that way.
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# ? Jul 1, 2013 21:08 |
I actually LIKE Drakengard, and i still wouldn't recommend PLAYING it. TDI's LP just adds so much to the game, it's basically the best way to experience it.
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# ? Jul 1, 2013 21:14 |
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I was sick with an ear infection and was bed-ridden for a week. I could not get out of bed without feeling incredibly dizzy and sick to my stomach. During that time, I played Drakengard basically 12 - 16 hours a day because that was all I could do (besides vomit). This is pretty much the only way I can imagine playing Drakengard. I didn't even get ending E; I was about 3/4 of the way there. This was with no internet/game faqs or anything of course.
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# ? Jul 1, 2013 21:28 |
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Dorroile posted:I actually LIKE Drakengard, and i still wouldn't recommend PLAYING it. TDI's LP just adds so much to the game, it's basically the best way to experience it. It's a wonderfully bleak story with an amazing soundtrack wrapped in some highly questionable gameplay mechanics and half-baked to wonky perfection. There's a lot to like, but sadly, it requires suffering through the gameplay.
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# ? Jul 1, 2013 21:34 |
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Pesky Splinter posted:Oh boy, this manga. The brown-haired girl is Furiae and she's all hot and bothered over Caim. After Nero attacks her and One chases him off, she tells him that if she can't give it to her brother she'll give it to anyone, even him. It really says something when you make the guy who's been wantonly slaughtering folks for the entire manga look that uncomfortable. This chapter is a little much but I'm interested where the manga is going. Given the timeline/gender reveal I don't think the One in the manga is the same as the One from the game, although they might be related somehow. Re: the new story up on the website, it's all about Five and her appetites. She says the world is made up of things she wants, and things she wants more. The only person she thinks she can't have is her father, whom she can't remember at all. It's also revealed that her apostle/boy-toy is Dito so I guess Zero must steal him from her by the time of/during the course of the game.
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# ? Jul 1, 2013 21:49 |
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dazat posted:Re: the new story up on the website, it's all about Five and her appetites. She says the world is made up of things she wants, and things she wants more. The only person she thinks she can't have is her father, whom she can't remember at all. It's also revealed that her apostle/boy-toy is Dito so I guess Zero must steal him from her by the time of/during the course of the game. Now I'm hoping that the entire game is just killing superpowered women and taking their boytoys.
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# ? Jul 1, 2013 21:53 |
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dazat posted:The brown-haired girl is Furiae and she's all hot and bothered over Caim. Well that's cleared that up for me, thanks. Jesus Christ Drakengard
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jonjonaug posted:Now I'm hoping that the entire game is just killing superpowered women and taking their boytoys. Still not the weirdest version of Pokemon I've ever seen.
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# ? Jul 1, 2013 22:43 |
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I'll echo the general sentiment that if the gameplay is serviceable, it should be worthwhile. I'm really not here for the gameplay. The train wreck of crazy is more than enough.Call Now posted:What aliens Yoko Taro made a joke that, after the end of the game, hostile aliens invade and force Replicants and Gestalts to work together so they don't get killed by an extraterrestrial menace. Happy end! It became official in the drama CD's "Great Space War", where 300 years later Emil tries to befriend a flying saucer and it responds by trying to murder him.
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# ? Jul 2, 2013 01:34 |
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I started Nier last April and finally gotten around to playing it. I've only gotten to the first fight with Kaine and the two kids upgraded my weapon. Does the combat get any better? Am I supposed to use something specific whenever the circle appears above a boss? Are sub quests required? All that aside, the music's great.
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# ? Jul 2, 2013 01:42 |
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NonsenseWords posted:
I knew about the aliens but didn't know about it being expanded on in the drama CD so I had to look it up: http://orangeislands.net/forums/blog/81/entry-691-nier-drama-cd-the-great-space-war/ This is amazing. And it warms my heart to see that they stuck with the (giant NIER spoilers obviously) populations of merged replicants/gestalts in different areas of the world. They didn't get all destabilized by the death of the Shadowlord/Original Gestalt! I would've liked to see those people expanded on a bit - were their overseers a lot more forthcoming to their replicant populations than Devola & Popola were, or were they completely brutal and outright forced them to merge with the gestalts?
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Gaseous Snake posted:I started Nier last April and finally gotten around to playing it. I've only gotten to the first fight with Kaine and the two kids upgraded my weapon. Does the combat get any better? Am I supposed to use something specific whenever the circle appears above a boss? Are sub quests required? All that aside, the music's great. The answer to all these questions is a pretty big no.
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# ? Jul 2, 2013 03:21 |
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I've seen this before, and it seemed like a really watered down action RPG in terms of the battle system. Maybe not "Kingdom Hearts" simple, but I guess it's really relative. I might give it a go in the near future.
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# ? Jul 2, 2013 03:23 |
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I hope dragon drifting is the new boar drifting.
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# ? Jul 2, 2013 03:33 |
Vaudeville Dragon knows how to enter the stage. The only thing missing is a cane tucked under-wing and a stripey ragtime hat.
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# ? Jul 2, 2013 04:13 |
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You can vote for which old character the team will create a DLC costume for Zero based on here: https://ssl.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/658/658392/index.html The options are Caim, Furiae, Manah (DoD2 Version), Eris, Kaine or Nier. You can only vote for one. You can leave the two text boxes blank (unless you speak enough Japanese to want to answer). You're required to enter your user data at the end, though, which is as follows: Handle Name Email Address Gender (Male, Female) Age Profession (The first four options are Elementary, Grade and High School Student so don't pick those if you've put your age in as 30 for example) Where You Live (it's all prefectures in Japan, so just choose any) Then hit the left-hand button to submit your vote. I voted for Caim, of course. EDIT: Here are the costumes if you need some reference: http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/658/658595/ dazat fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Jul 2, 2013 |
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Kaine's going to win, of course, because scantly clad.
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# ? Jul 2, 2013 05:35 |
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Gonna be honest, I would be okay with either Caim, Kaine or Nier winning this, although the former two moreso than Nier. Basically anything other than Drakengard 2 characters.
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# ? Jul 2, 2013 05:39 |
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Voted Caim. And the idea of the game being about stealing the boys as much as it is killing the girls is an amusing thought that kind of has a Mega-man feel to it. You beat the boss, you get her boyfriend as a power-up or special attack. That concept alone would make a fine video-game.
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# ? Jul 2, 2013 05:58 |
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I guess I'm on kind of a Drakengard roll today? I summarized Five's story:quote:
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# ? Jul 2, 2013 07:14 |
I thought giving her a Kaine costume would be cool, but it didn't immediately register that Kaine wears next to nothing. Kaine is just awesome and Zero resembles her regardless. So, Five sounds entertaining, in a shallow and debauched kind of way. I wonder how much screen time in the game these characters are really going to get, though, since undoubtedly Zero is going to murder them all.
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# ? Jul 2, 2013 09:12 |
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ImpAtom posted:Kaine's going to win, of course, because scantly clad. I'm pretty sure the outfit is going to be scanty no matter which character wins. I had a hard time choosing between Caim and Nier, but Caim's crocs won out in the end!
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# ? Jul 2, 2013 09:53 |
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I think she already looks a lot like Kaine. That's a pretty boring costume!
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# ? Jul 2, 2013 09:56 |
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Renoistic posted:I'm pretty sure the outfit is going to be scanty no matter which character wins. I hope so, a kinky Caim outfit would be hilarious. As long as they keep the crocs.
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# ? Jul 2, 2013 10:03 |
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At first I was thinking "why isn't anyone voting for Dadass outfit" then I realized that it's a japanese poll, which means BroNier
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# ? Jul 2, 2013 10:04 |
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Sorry to be such a spammer. I also translated Zero's story since I thought the translation that came out earlier was kind of unclear. Watch out for the WALL OF TEXT!!! quote:Zero's Story - The Final Rain and the First Flower So are the five girls she died with in the dungeon the other five songstresses? The girl who died beside her being One, maybe? After reading this, I have no doubt Zero and Caim are a match made in heaven. And this is all before she even gets any special powers!
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# ? Jul 2, 2013 11:19 |
Oh, you have no need to apologize. That's uh, that's somewhere in there, there's an omnipresent exclamation of "Drakengard!"
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# ? Jul 2, 2013 11:42 |
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Nier was more than competent gameplay-wise, this looks, well, bad.
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