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anathenema
Apr 8, 2009
Crossed is by Garth Ennis, who is kind of famous for his depravity going into self-parody. If he and Ashley Cope were anything alike, this most recent chapter would have featured Duane fellating a dolphin or Lemuel eating an aborted fetus.

I mean, the last scene with Duane was hard to read, no doubt, but for all the right reasons. It was the product of a very long emotional commitment in a character we (or at least I) desperately wanted to be okay. That's kind of the way to do tragedy.

I haven't read the meta sources for Unsounded. I have seen Ashley's DA gallery and I mostly see what I see on every webcomic artist's DA gallery: drawings of their characters, frequently naked. That's just kind of what they do. But I'm inclined to believe the person who was able to keep me on the edge of my seat for the entirety of the last chapter, even though I already knew what was going to happen, when she says she can make a villain seem unlikable.

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A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

anathenema posted:

Crossed is by Garth Ennis, who is kind of famous for his depravity going into self-parody. If he and Ashley Cope were anything alike, this most recent chapter would have featured Duane fellating a dolphin or Lemuel eating an aborted fetus.

I mean, the last scene with Duane was hard to read, no doubt, but for all the right reasons. It was the product of a very long emotional commitment in a character we (or at least I) desperately wanted to be okay. That's kind of the way to do tragedy.

I haven't read the meta sources for Unsounded. I have seen Ashley's DA gallery and I mostly see what I see on every webcomic artist's DA gallery: drawings of their characters, frequently naked. That's just kind of what they do. But I'm inclined to believe the person who was able to keep me on the edge of my seat for the entirety of the last chapter, even though I already knew what was going to happen, when she says she can make a villain seem unlikable.

Sorry clarification derail:

The first Crossed is by Garth wich is what he was saying he liked, the other later volumes were by other dudes and contain the giddy, grotesque, gore porn that they found disturbing.

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

I really like Unsounded, I didn't read any of the extra material outside of the main comic so when Murkoph appeared and started licking a small child I assumed he'd be killed off relatively soon. Then I found out he's the author's favorite character. Whelp.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Mr.Pibbleton posted:

I really like Unsounded, I didn't read any of the extra material outside of the main comic so when Murkoph appeared and started licking a small child I assumed he'd be killed off relatively soon. Then I found out he's the author's favorite character. Whelp.

Yeah this is where I am. I thought he was just a dude with no significance but adding some creepy humanized conflict. Then I saw that blogpost where the author talks about how fully realized he was and thought, wait when did all this happen exactly.

Granted I figure he's supposed to be detestable weirdo.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

There's nothing I can see to like about Murkoph, and the khert as a setting would do enough of a job of making the scene just as unsettling (if not moreso), so it's not like he's adding anything.

Theoretically he could do something to justify his existence later on, but for now, the best we can hope is that Settle and Duane leave him behind in the khert.

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



The unwitting hero being tricked into releasing an unspeakable monster from its prison and having to eventually vanquish it is a plot device that is as old as dirt if not older, it shouldn't be hard to find a place for him in the story.

Tubgirl Cosplay
Jan 10, 2011

by Ion Helmet

Cowcaster posted:

The unwitting hero being tricked into releasing an unspeakable monster from its prison and having to eventually vanquish it is a plot device that is as old as dirt if not older, it shouldn't be hard to find a place for him in the story.

Yeah but I think it's pretty clear loads of people don't want to see him as a recurring villain entire arcs are oriented around, in fact that's sort of exactly the primary concern being expressed. Dude's not horrible and hateful in the sense that he'd be a great antagonist, he's just unpleasant to the point you want to stop watching.

I mean, I'll buy that he can work and Cope knows what the character is and is good for, but there's already one gross sociopathic pedophile major character who doesn't go slithering around naked licking children and that's plenty.

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



Tubgirl Cosplay posted:

Yeah but I think it's pretty clear loads of people don't want to see him as a recurring villain entire arcs are oriented around, in fact that's sort of exactly the primary concern being expressed. Dude's not horrible and hateful in the sense that he'd be a great antagonist, he's just unpleasant to the point you want to stop watching.

Fair enough, I didn't mean that "Oh hey here's going to be the end boss of the story of Unsounded". More of a "Hey Sette, you hosed up and you're going to have to fix it" sort of plotline.

edit: Now that you mention it if Murkoph makes it out of the khert a confrontation between him and Starfish seems like it could actually be quite exceptional if played very, very carefully.

Cowcaster fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Jul 3, 2013

Hotwire
Mar 11, 2006

hehehe
All the Murkoph bitching should now be removed due to his face in the final panel.


That is sarcasm feel free to keep whining but oh god that face.

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
So what is up with Sette and her tail and blood and stuff anyway :confused:

Fake Edit: Unless Murkoph is immune to pain that missed stomp probably hurt like hell.

TheFuzzyLumpkin
Sep 15, 2003

But you are a person, and I can't say I'm awfully fond of that.
Word of god on zombies is they have limited sensation and a limited ability to feel pain. Duane can really only feel heat and pressure anymore, and he only hurts if his bones break. He doesn't like the sun, but he can handle it. So the stomp probably didn't bother Murkoph any since Murkoph is also dead.

Sette's really interesting, but we don't have enough knowledge to even guess correctly yet. External sources, but my speculation follows: There were once lions in Kasslyne, but they were wiped out by the Ssaelit. This is because Ssael, their mortal-ascended-to-godhood, was betrayed by his grandson to the Gefendurs, who fed him to lions. The Ssaelit eventually ended up taking the lion as one of their symbols, because it was post-death that Ssael really got going. Anyway, Sette's naturally sharp teeth, lion tail and big hair (actual author word is all Kasslynian lions had manes, not just the male ones) all point to some definite link with her and the lost lions. Her ability to interact barehanded with the khert (and fall into it) also point to a connection to pymary that nobody's figured out/noticed yet. Frummagen may know SOMETHING about her, since he clearly got ahold of her at some point and wasn't inclined to let her go, going so far as to adopt her.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


TheFuzzyLumpkin posted:

Word of god on zombies is they have limited sensation and a limited ability to feel pain. Duane can really only feel heat and pressure anymore, and he only hurts if his bones break. He doesn't like the sun, but he can handle it. So the stomp probably didn't bother Murkoph any since Murkoph is also dead.

Murkoph isn't a zombie though. He's a ghost, and this is an afterlifey place. I think.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

TheFuzzyLumpkin posted:

Word of god on zombies is they have limited sensation and a limited ability to feel pain. Duane can really only feel heat and pressure anymore, and he only hurts if his bones break. He doesn't like the sun, but he can handle it. So the stomp probably didn't bother Murkoph any since Murkoph is also dead.

Sette's really interesting, but we don't have enough knowledge to even guess correctly yet. External sources, but my speculation follows: There were once lions in Kasslyne, but they were wiped out by the Ssaelit. This is because Ssael, their mortal-ascended-to-godhood, was betrayed by his grandson to the Gefendurs, who fed him to lions. The Ssaelit eventually ended up taking the lion as one of their symbols, because it was post-death that Ssael really got going. Anyway, Sette's naturally sharp teeth, lion tail and big hair (actual author word is all Kasslynian lions had manes, not just the male ones) all point to some definite link with her and the lost lions. Her ability to interact barehanded with the khert (and fall into it) also point to a connection to pymary that nobody's figured out/noticed yet. Frummagen may know SOMETHING about her, since he clearly got ahold of her at some point and wasn't inclined to let her go, going so far as to adopt her.
Sette's teeth are filed; it's a separate story Cope indicates she'd like to tell one day. Now the tail and all of the pymary related stuff is still true.

Roger Explosion
Jan 26, 2006

THAT'S SPECTACULAR.
Murkoph gawkin' at Duanne through his own legs actually made me laugh a bit. The guy truly gives absolutely no fucks about his junk just dangling all over the shop. :v:

geist hirsche
Jul 23, 2004

TheFuzzyLumpkin posted:

Sette's really interesting, but we don't have enough knowledge to even guess correctly yet. External sources, but my speculation follows: There were once lions in Kasslyne, but they were wiped out by the Ssaelit. This is because Ssael, their mortal-ascended-to-godhood, was betrayed by his grandson to the Gefendurs, who fed him to lions. The Ssaelit eventually ended up taking the lion as one of their symbols, because it was post-death that Ssael really got going. Anyway, Sette's naturally sharp teeth, lion tail and big hair (actual author word is all Kasslynian lions had manes, not just the male ones) all point to some definite link with her and the lost lions. Her ability to interact barehanded with the khert (and fall into it) also point to a connection to pymary that nobody's figured out/noticed yet. Frummagen may know SOMETHING about her, since he clearly got ahold of her at some point and wasn't inclined to let her go, going so far as to adopt her.

To add to this and the lion connection, there's also this piece of old art. I mean it is really old and things could have changed since then, but the fact that I remember there used to be a comment on it that said the lion was her brother and it's now been removed, makes me think it's something the artist doesn't want people knowing yet. And I never knew Sette's teeth were filed. That's kinda, uh... horrifying.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

britt posted:

To add to this and the lion connection, there's also this piece of old art. I mean it is really old and things could have changed since then, but the fact that I remember there used to be a comment on it that said the lion was her brother and it's now been removed, makes me think it's something the artist doesn't want people knowing yet.

One of the author's comments here is:

Ashley Cope posted:

Ah-ah, this is just concept art for an entirely different project (an illustrated book). What you see here doesn't necessarily apply to Sette in the comic. Don't jump to conclusions :)

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Tollymain posted:

So what is up with Sette and her tail and blood and stuff anyway :confused:

Fake Edit: Unless Murkoph is immune to pain that missed stomp probably hurt like hell.

Well, that did probably contribute to his expression in the final panel.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
Fun speculation stuff that probably isn't true: Go back and look at Duane when he was preaching; the face paint represents scars from being clawed by a lion because you know, his god was killed by lions.

Now look at Murk's face in his closeups.

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!
You know, if the next few panels involve Duane giving Murkoph a tremendous beatdown of one kind or another, that would be really cathartic after the events of this chapter.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
Bummer this was a two-page update ironically; the first page posted today was pretty :smith: but turned on its heel in the next one. Would've had a bit more impact if you had to wait a couple days to see it.

TheFuzzyLumpkin
Sep 15, 2003

But you are a person, and I can't say I'm awfully fond of that.
I don't care, I'm jumping at the notion that we might find something out about Duane's origin with Sette following that string.

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


We're getting near the end (of the chapter), so I doubt that the thread is much more than the "Here's reality" trail.

Tubgirl Cosplay
Jan 10, 2011

by Ion Helmet

ThatBasqueGuy posted:

We're getting near the end (of the chapter), so I doubt that the thread is much more than the "Here's reality" trail.

My guess is it leads to the creeper who gave her that control amulet/whatever it was, given the whole, y'know, leash thing. The entire comic from now on is just a succession of sadistic, disturbed anime prettyboys.

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


Tubgirl Cosplay posted:

The entire comic from now on is just a succession of sadistic, disturbed anime prettyboys.

Starfish-sama... :allears:

PleasingFungus
Oct 10, 2012
idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off
So, uh, remind me. Who are we looking at here?

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Looks like Turas, the henchman that Duane turned inside out in the sex hotel. (Also sounds like him, since he was at the hotel on an errand to bring Sette back.)

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
Yeah, that's the guy Duane's corpse eviscerated when Sette tricked him into going into the hotel room.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


I think Ashley puts it succinctly. "Piss off, Murkoph."

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
Unsounded has gotten into my brain. You know when you sometimes read a thing for too long and for a certain amount of time afterwards all of your thoughts sort of take on the style of whatever you read? The word "nawt" has danced through my skull way more often than it has any right to.

Avoiding Ashley's personal Formspring really is a good idea for enjoying the comic to its fullest. She gives away so much and does it so casually that it deflates a lot of the mystique around events, to say nothing of her numerous TMI responses (see: pretty much everything regarding Murkoph). On the other hand, Duane and Sette's in-character formsprings are both informative and hilarious.

Murkoph himself fits as an antagonist in the khert - between his indestructibility and his habit of warping from place to place, he comes off as a bad dream with skin on, which is appropriate for the nature of the place - but I dunno how well he'll carry on in the physical plane. Maybe he can start by getting some pants.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
Well, this latest page should make some people happy.

Looks like Murkoph's been stranded in the khert. No doubt he'll find another way out at some point, but the Naked Canni-rapist Power Hour is over for the time being.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Surely you mean "naught"?

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

SlothfulCobra posted:

Surely you mean "naught"?

I know that's the proper spelling of the word but that's not how it's used in the comic. I sort of like it, makes it sound coarser.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Well, that's the funniest picture of a rotten corpse I have seen in quite some time.

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
He emotes grumpiness far better without the glamour :allears:

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
He already knows it's going to be one of those days.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


For once we see him without the glamour, but still in control of his faculties.

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
I feel dumb, I don't get the leg commentary. :(

http://www.casualvillain.com/Unsounded/comic/ch07/ch07_122.html

cisneros
Apr 18, 2006

He's had bad legs for like, half of the story.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Duane's leg has gotten progressively hosed up over the past couple of days and needs to be repaired. He's commenting on the fact that his mindless zombie self left Turas's legs untouched, as though he's planning on repairing himself using spare parts or something.

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Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
So this is basically going to be the Worst Day for Duane. He woke up from a dream where he got to watch his daughter die again, finds himself with an unconscious Sette and a dead half-eaten guy, knows that both are his fault, is about to engage in a zany cover-up to get out of the love hotel before the cleaners find the mess, and when he finally manages to limp out of there on his shattered leg, he's going to find out that he is, technically, in Cresce.

Man, it's been almost a year in real-time since he first went to sleep.

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