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bebaloorpabopalo posted:Just a heads up to anybody actually reading Brett posts, this is pure conjecture and Tom and Tony Cannon have both said they received no money from NRS or Warner Bros except pot bonuses. I mean you could believe Brett and think the only reason the most popular non-Capcom fighting game at the moment is only at EVO because they were literally paid but then you'd also have to wonder why the gently caress Persona 4 is there because there's no way in hell they were given money for that and MrWiz absolutely hates the game. Actually Tom Cannon said on Ultrachentv Monday that they did pay for the expenses for Injustice (but nothing extra to the organizers), unless I misunderstood him. I'd link the archives but I'm on my phone.
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wixard posted:Both NRS games should be at EVO if they have the entrants, but it seems pretty unlikely no money changed hands when NRS basically has their own stream for the whole weekend. That's on the streamer - the person doing the NRS stream pretty much only streams MK9 and IJ so it makes sense.
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To back up Brett and lazarenth, Tom Cannon did confirm on UltraChen that WB/NRS put in money for setups+overhead to have Injustice at Evo. NRS contacted the Evo staff about having Injustice in Evo, staff told them how much money it would cost to run Injustice, WB/NRS gave them that money. Chen also talked about why MK9 and Injustice are getting their own streams. The main room will have only setups to play games and is where all the other games will be ran, while the second room will have vendors+BYOC+indie games (I think)+setups and is where MK9 and Injustice will be ran. edit: Now that I'm not on my phone anymore, here's the link to the UltraChen episode http://www.twitch.tv/ultrachentv/b/427844809 Chen talking about the room/stream situation is at 22:00 Cannon talking about money being provided to run Injustice is at 41:30 Also worth noting is that Evo is supporting other people to stream over 4G. IE Battlegrounds will be doing Tekken and ST, FinestKO is doing P4A I believe iPodschun fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Jul 10, 2013 |
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It's not really on the streamer, the TOs decide who the streamers and commentators are. It doesn't make sense for the biggest fighting game tournament in the world to assign streamers randomly and say "Here you go, stream what you like." I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, but it seems naive to think it just happened that NRS games have more time on-stream than the games that way more people watch and play. edit: Simply put, if no one paid to have Injustice added does anyone think the 2nd official EVO stream would be MK9 for 2 days straight? They would have found a way to set it up to show other games. ChristsDickWorship fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Jul 10, 2013 |
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Tom Cannon also mentioned part of the reason MK9 is getting so much stream time stems from it sharing its room with Injustice, but not overlapping in times, due to there being a lot of overlap between the MK9 and Injustice players. Since those games are what's being run in that hall, it makes sense that the stream station in that hall streams those games. I at least found that story pretty plausible from a tournament running logistics perspective, with the stream essentially being a secondary consideration.
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To distill what other people are saying: if you put together the facts Tom Cannon provided the real reason MK/Injustice are alone in the second room is because NRS paid for those ten setups and won't let them be used for other games. Sucks for P4A/TTT2 to have between them 3x as many entrants as MK9 and 1/3rd the total time on the main streams, sounds like side streams will be holding it down though (4G the god).
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iPodschun posted:Also worth noting is that Evo is supporting other people to stream over 4G. IE Battlegrounds will be doing Tekken and ST, FinestKO is doing P4A I believe Don't forget Clashtournaments streaming Melee. e: VGbootcamp too. drat I like Smash but even I think that's a little excessive. It would be more expedient to have one stream and just record the other matches for later. F. Lobot fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Jul 10, 2013 |
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Jul 10, 2013 16:53
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More side stream info: According to the SRK viewing guide ( http://shoryuken.com/2013/07/09/how-to-watch-evo-2013-a-viewers-guide/ ), Karastorm will stream SFxT, IE Battlegrounds will have ST, and IE Battlegrounds 2 will have TTT2.
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I hope 4G in Vegas isn't as bad as is rumored, I really wanted to see Tekken top32.
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Twitch speedrunner Cosmowright made this little video explaining some melee mechanics for those curious about how the game is played competitively https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwo_VBSfqWk
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Live on Three will have Gootecks as a host tonight and Wizard as a guest later on. Show just started. https://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv edit: Arturo has Battle Circuit https://www.twitch.tv/nycfurby iPodschun fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Jul 11, 2013 |
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    THREAD IS CLOSED UNTIL EVO IS OVER!!!!! CLICK BELOW TO WIN A FREE EVOLUTION 2013 THREAD http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3559225 http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3559225 http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3559225 I'll reopen the thread on monday.
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Welcome back to the world of Pro Fighting Games (TM).
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When's marvel? VXG two weeks
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Can someone post some stuff about VXG? I know it was a minor deal in the Carribean last year and gootecks was there, and I know that this year there's tons of money being thrown around to draw in tourism and a bunch of it went to EMP, but that's it. Are there any dates or schedules or games announced? Any names other than the obvious EMP people going?
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Elephant Ambush posted:Can someone post some stuff about VXG? I know it was a minor deal in the Carribean last year and gootecks was there, and I know that this year there's tons of money being thrown around to draw in tourism and a bunch of it went to EMP, but that's it. What you posted is pretty much what's happening. They're putting a big pile of money in, and paid for a number of winners from other tournaments to go down and compete. They want to make it a big deal, so they're pouring money into it. Also, it's not just a fighting game tournament - it's being billed as a weekend-long party with all kinds of beach parties, DJs and dance hall stuff going on too. As far as games, expect all the rgulars - SF4, Marvel, MK9, Injustice, Tekken, KOF...I think P4A will be there. Oh also it's got FPS stuff too. It'll be interesting to see how it comes off. I just looked through their rules, and they are...uh...way more strict than FGC rules usually are. edit: runs July 25-28 uhh... reading more about the event, this is really weird. There's a Mortal Kombat "reenactment lunch hosted by Shang Tsung", a couples discount where you can get a sensual massage, and all sorts other things you'd expect from a resort hotel. This is going to be one weird loving culture clash. Platypus Farm fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jul 15, 2013 |
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I remember Triforce was trying to hook Skullgirls up with booking at VxG in response to smash winning the Evo Charity Drive, I wonder if that's still happening.
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Platypus Farm posted:What you posted is pretty much what's happening. They're putting a big pile of money in, and paid for a number of winners from other tournaments to go down and compete. They want to make it a big deal, so they're pouring money into it. Also, it's not just a fighting game tournament - it's being billed as a weekend-long party with all kinds of beach parties, DJs and dance hall stuff going on too. I really hope they have a stream up for FGC beach parties or whatever. I'm trying to picture all the most well-known FG players in ugly swimsuits trying to act cool while dance music plays in the background. edit: And Marn inevitably vomiting on someone.
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I just realized VxG is the same weekend as SGDQ, gently caress. I'm not going to get any sleep at all.
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Elephant Ambush posted:I really hope they have a stream up for FGC beach parties or whatever. I'm trying to picture all the most well-known FG players in ugly swimsuits trying to act cool while dance music plays in the background. After their love-in after the SF4 evo finals, I hope Chris G and FChamp go as a couple so they can have a free romantic dinner for two with a free bottle of wine from one of the participating resort eateries, and so they can share a couples massage. edit: And so it'll be streamed. VVVVV - then he could REALLY use that massage. Platypus Farm fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Jul 15, 2013 |
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I think ChrisG is going to be salty from losing all his evo money to Nemo.
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Tae posted:I think ChrisG is going to be salty from losing all his evo money to Nemo. And then some
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Oh god. That loving sucks.
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I'm not entirely sure anyone is even going to go to VxG at all. The website is literally one of the craziest things in a whileVXG FAQ posted:There were about 80 entrants last year for MK9. Previously VxG was the major tournament of the Caribbean but now it has become a major international tournament. We expect the numbers to be at least 200 due to the tournament being sanctioned by Shang Tsung, who will have a special dinner for the first 200 signups. Oh, it'll get more MK players than EVO because it's the only major officially sanctioned by Shang Tsung himself. Of course.
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What if everyone rocks up on this island for a Shang Tsung hosted tournament and then they slowly, but surely, realize there are no videogame consoles.
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You guys don't realize that Shang Tsung has won the nine previous VXG tournaments and if he wins this one our realms will merge  Who will be our VXG hero?
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I recorded Apologyman vs MarlinPie in losers if anyone is interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75XxOwEt1I0
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So is there any chance of VxG actually making money, or is this one of those esports bubble things that will happen once and disappear off the face of the Earth?
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Redmark posted:So is there any chance of VxG actually making money, or is this one of those esports bubble things that will happen once and disappear off the face of the Earth? Erm... did you see the quote about Shang Tsung? Sounds like a legit tournament to me.
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They had VxG last year, so I can only assume it did well.
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Redmark posted:So is there any chance of VxG actually making money, or is this one of those esports bubble things that will happen once and disappear off the face of the Earth? From what I've heard, the guys running VxG have a lot of tourism money from the government of St. Maarten and are using it to sponsor and attract a bunch of top players. They've also made some sort of deal with EMP to sponsor the tournament. I doubt this tournament will be profitable for them, but it will certainly generate a lot of publicity for them and maybe attract more vacation goers who will spend money on other stuff on the island.
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Redmark posted:So is there any chance of VxG actually making money, or is this one of those esports bubble things that will happen once and disappear off the face of the Earth? It's wholly funded by the St Maarten government, if it brings people to the island it will happen again
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Goon and cool guy BananaKen is streaming Persona 4 training mode and chatting about stuff: http://www.twitch.tv/denjinj
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So AGE is kinda dead? http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/jul/16/onehandedterror-no-longer-team-manager-age-not-sure-if-team-will-survive/
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Battle Circuit is up on Arturo's channel right now since Spooky is still in California.
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Xian just mentioned he won $5700 for winning AE, was on djWheat's Twitch show.
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It's too bad there wasn't a $25K pot bonus for Xian to reap this year.
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I still believe that the payouts in the community are far too low. $5700 for winning the world championship of a 1600-player tournament stacked with most of the absolute best players on the planet is ridiculously low. Also the biggest game tournament in the world still only paying out to Top 8 is a joke. Given the level of competition, getting to Top 64 in a 1000+ entrant tourney at EVO is the equivalent of winning a major. Especially when EVO has historically made money off those players with stream viewership and DVDs (I don't know if EVO still sells DVDs of finals, though). I don't know how anything will change unless game companies get more involved however. Why Capcom doesn't donate a pot bonus for their games every single year at EVO, I have no clue.
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The EVO 2013 Injustice champion just got beat by a Hawkgirl who had no combos. e: on battle circuit stream BetterToRuleInHell fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Jul 18, 2013 |
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I can't remember who it was, might have been someone on OBS one of the few times I watched it, but they speculated that part of the reason the console games have a hard time getting more sponsorship money was because with the consoles there isn't much to sell. With PC games like LoL you can have sponsors in there selling all kinds of parts and peripherals, but that the consoles are a lot more limited. Most people have the console and probably have the game, so it's just maybe buying a stick or monitor and then some merchandising. I'm not sure how accurate it is but it was an interesting thought.
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