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They already showed that Rusty's potential could really be unlocked by being a supervillain in the Dr. Killinger episode, and Rusty rejected it. Sure, he COULD be a success as a super-villain, but he doesn't want to be. That's he doesn't want to be a supervillain. Obviously he wants to be a success. Well okay, so he probably thinks he already IS a success.
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Well, Killinger did say that Rusty had a deep-seated fear of success. That may be because he wouldn't like the kind of man he would be if he was successful. New sneak peek for this Sunday's episode : http://video.adultswim.com/the-venture-bros/sneak-peek-bot-seeks-bot.html Shoreleave is as hilarious as ever. What happened to Snoopy and Headshot? Did they not see Hatred go in?
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Jul 11, 2013 22:59
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We've really not seen much of the Monarch this season, have we?
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Jul 11, 2013 23:35
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Silhouette posted:Except that Rusty's been shown to be a brilliant biologist/geneticist. You can't make a Frankenstein without knowing your poo poo, plus in the Halloween special, Ben said that he and Jonas started the cloning program and Rusty perfected it. It's the mechanical super sciences and engineering that he's terrible at, but in which Jonas was (and J.J. is) an expert. I think maybe part of that explains Dean's current robotics/engineering pursuits. At first, he might have started to invest more of himself into the sciences perhaps as a direct response to wanting to find something completely opposed to Triana's magical studies to distance himself from her emotionally and academically. Since discovering his nature as a clone and just one of Doc's genetics projects, he's maybe hitting harder into the robotics/engineering side of things as perhaps his personal bit of rebellion against Doc's field of study. Keep in mind, too, that when Doc was close to Dean's age, he personally thought that robotics were a dead-end. One of the things about last episode was the theme of secrets and secrets getting revealed. Dean's secret conversations and meeting with Myra got found out, Hank's secret trickery with Teddy was shared, Dermot learned who his true dad was and Doc confessed all sorts of secrets and sins. In some way, this episode made me think of ORB, for some reason I can't put my finger on, and that alone makes me feel that the next episode will end up being the start of a major game changer. Also, I wouldn't be suprised at this point if Gary didn't turn out to be a Venture cousin, with his mother or father being a 'Fictel' blood relative.
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X_Toad posted:Well, Killinger did say that Rusty had a deep-seated fear of success. That may be because he wouldn't like the kind of man he would be if he was successful. With a full head of hair and a successful musical?
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Jul 11, 2013 23:36
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Action Tortoise posted:With a full head of hair and a successful musical? I kind of got the impression that that Rusty stole his musical.
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Jul 12, 2013 00:04
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn88hl1Iz64 Everyone says it, but man I wish they'd do a full song. Or even better a full Broadway like musical VOD.
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Jul 12, 2013 00:08
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I still don't understand how Dean came to be the heir to guild of calamitous intent, but that's mainly me not paying enough attention and instead enjoying the gags in that episode. LADY NIGHTSHADE.
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Jul 12, 2013 00:52
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a cock shaped fruit posted:I still don't understand how Dean came to be the heir to guild of calamitous intent, but that's mainly me not paying enough attention and instead enjoying the gags in that episode. LADY NIGHTSHADE. Dean's great grandpa or whatever was the head of the original guild of calamitous intent. I know I know, Rusty but eh.
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Jul 12, 2013 01:03
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The Sovereign probably saw it as the quickest, easiest way to squash The Phantom's claims of usurpation.
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Jul 12, 2013 01:31
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Phantom Limb isn't very bright these days, so the history of the guild gave the Sovereign a workable enough excuse to befuddle him. Remember that Phantom Limb killed the Manotaur because of the Monarch's lovely excuse one time years ago...
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Jul 12, 2013 01:51
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I see Phantom Limb as a bit like Col. Rawls from the wire if he had aspirations to cultural refinement. Smart, sometimes even brilliant at field operations. Much, much less politically savvy than he'd like to believe, but no one likes messing with him because he carries a grudge forever.
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Jul 12, 2013 02:28
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The Mighty Manotaur being mentioned has me wondering about Shadowman9: In the cradle of Destiny. Are we to assume that the ENTIRE time the Monarch has been arching Rusty he's been a Guild dropout/AWOL? He was some low-level Guild employee while serving as a henchman, the episode kinda argues his motivations for arching were twofold, one pursuing Dr. Girlfriend, and two (presumably) not wanting to jump through hoops hench'ing under Phantom Limb for years before being able to become a villain of his own and arch Rusty properly. Did they show or mention Monarch ever being guild sanctioned in or prior to that episode? Just seems like an odd inconsistency, having a giant palette matched hovering cocoon fortress, Dr. Girlfriend supplying "standard guild issue [gadgets]" in an episode or two, and an army of card carrying Guild henchman (don't we overhear them complain about crappy Guild medical or some such?), all while he was still a non-Guild member freelance villain? I guess Monarch did mention getting a sweet inheritance, or it could be Dr. Girlfriend who was approved to be her own villain funneling him supplies. Total over-sperg about animated TV show supply chains, I know, I'm sorry.
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Jul 12, 2013 02:57
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Jul 12, 2013 03:01
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If memory serves, the season 3 premiere implies that Phantom Limb knew what the Monarch was doing and smoothed things over with the Guild. Most likely it was part of his long-term plan to get Dr. Girlfriend back.
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Jul 12, 2013 03:18
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Pope Guilty posted:If memory serves, the season 3 premiere implies that Phantom Limb knew what the Monarch was doing and smoothed things over with the Guild. Most likely it was part of his long-term plan to get Dr. Girlfriend back. Yeah but what he's getting at is since phantom limb killed manotaur, having bought the monarchs lovely excuse, he wasn't actually covering it. If they even bother to address something as spergy as this it'll be the monarch lied and all the guild stuff he had wasn't from the guild. That or whatever guild supplier you buy flying butterfly costumes from just assumed he was in the guild from his costume.
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Jul 12, 2013 03:33
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Actually considering that he stole most of his gear from Hatred and then just painted it yellow there doesn't need to be any complicated backstory for how the Monarch had standard Guild issue tech.
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Jul 12, 2013 03:40
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I figure it was one of those things like how the government can know you exist and apparently have enough money to live, but never pay your taxes and you get away with it for years and years. But then you try to file once and they come down on you with an endless universe of suffering. Or come down on you like a storm, in Orpheus's voice.
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Jul 12, 2013 04:00
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The Halloween episode is up on adultswim.com this week. Compared with the rest of this season, it seems kinda weak.
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Jul 12, 2013 04:00
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The thing about Venture Bros. is even the weaker episodes have one or two amazing, perfect things in them. Like, State Dinner still has all the Lincoln jokes. The Halloween special has H. Jon Benjamin's voice coming out of Santa Claus, so I can't help but love it.
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Jul 12, 2013 04:23
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Pope Guilty posted:If memory serves, the season 3 premiere implies that Phantom Limb knew what the Monarch was doing and smoothed things over with the Guild. Most likely it was part of his long-term plan to get Dr. Girlfriend back. I sort of thought that explanation was put together by Dr. Girlfriend and that the Council believed it. What makes more sense? That someone like the Monarch managed to slide through the Guild's net, so to speak, and managed to accidentally, falsely and fraudulently operate within their ranks for years without anyone catching on, or that it was another of the traitorous Limb's long game schemes to create chaos and overthrow the Guild by making him into an unknowing pawn in his plans? In the end, everyone was ready to shift the blame of the Monarch onto Limb and they assumed the latter when in reality it was actually the former. I guess, they were more willing to accept the Limb was a genius that tricked them than believe that the Monarch was an idiot who did so on his own.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Yeah but what he's getting at is since phantom limb killed manotaur, having bought the monarchs lovely excuse, he wasn't actually covering it. If they even bother to address something as spergy as this it'll be the monarch lied and all the guild stuff he had wasn't from the guild. That or whatever guild supplier you buy flying butterfly costumes from just assumed he was in the guild from his costume. I think Limb killed Manotaur to make it look like he'd bought the Monarch's lie. He's not as smart as he thinks he is, but he's not that stupid. e: Limb seems to have been fairly highly placed in the Guild, due no doubt in part to his lineage as a descendant of Fantoma. I think he was using his influence within the Guild to keep the Monarch off the radar as part of his effort to eventually frame the Monarch and get Sheila back. Pope Guilty fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Jul 12, 2013 |
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Well, as we've seen with Saint Cloud you can straight out buy a guild membership, and The Monarch is supposed to be loaded. He even mentions when 24 catches him changing into his Monarch costume that he's waiting for some trust fund money before officially breaking out.
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Sash! posted:Or come down on you like a storm, in Orpheus's voice. I literally could not help myself from hearing his music when I read that. 
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Jul 12, 2013 06:42
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Stop overthinking it.
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Pope Guilty posted:I think Limb killed Manotaur to make it look like he'd bought the Monarch's lie. He's not as smart as he thinks he is, but he's not that stupid. The Monarch just made the name up on the spot. That there really was a Manotaur was purely coincidental. I think Limb absolutely believed it.
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deong posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn88hl1Iz64
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Happy Landfill posted:I've always secretly dreamed of a Venture Bros musical episode. Between Doc Hammer and JG Thirlwell it's not like they're short on accomplished musicians to draw on.
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Filthy Haiku posted:I literally could not help myself from hearing his music when I read that. Dr O is seriously the best character in the whole thing. Just thinking of him explaining how to make tacos or something with that doofy music blaring in the background brings a smile to my face. I also like that he's one of the only more or less decent people in the series. Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Jul 12, 2013 |
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Barry Foster posted:Dr O is seriously the best character in the whole thing. Just thinking of him explaining how to make tacos or something with that doofy music blaring in the background brings a smile to my face. I cheered a hearty "gently caress yes" when he showed up in the last episode. I love Dr. O and the triad so drat much.
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I wish Dr. O weren't Triana's dad just so he could steer Dean down the right path. Are there any people in the venture universe who marry magic to super science?
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Jul 12, 2013 08:36
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Barry Foster posted:I also like that he's one of the only more or less decent people in the series.
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RandomPauI posted:Are there any people in the venture universe who marry magic to super science? Ghost Robot, maybe?
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Shindragon posted:Dean's great grandpa or whatever was the head of the original guild of calamitous intent. I know I know, Rusty but eh.
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DarkCrawler posted:Rusty AND Hank. Clearly the Guild works on the principle of ultimogeniture. But Hank and Dean are twins, and Hank is clearly the superior of the two. Why wasn't he Sovereign for a day? 
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Pope Guilty posted:I think Limb killed Manotaur to make it look like he'd bought the Monarch's lie. He's not as smart as he thinks he is, but he's not that stupid. No, it was a loving joke. A pretty funny one. You know, the reason people watch Venture Bros...
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Protagorean posted:But Hank and Dean are twins, and Hank is clearly the superior of the two. Why wasn't he Sovereign for a day? Knowing Hank, he would think it isn't Batman enough.
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Shindragon posted:Knowing Hank, he would think it isn't Batman enough. Not very Batman at all.
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Protagorean posted:But Hank and Dean are twins, and Hank is clearly the superior of the two. Why wasn't he Sovereign for a day?
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Protagorean posted:But Hank and Dean are twins, and Hank is clearly the superior of the two. Why wasn't he Sovereign for a day? The Bat would never be the Sovereign, but Enrique Matassa would be.
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