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tbp posted:Hm I guess you do have a point, I hadn't really thought about that. I bet most Americans would get Canada right but the other two wrong. I felt compelled to search for a survey and here's what I got: about 50%. http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/05/11/half-of-americans-know-the-capital-of-canada-vancouver-sun/
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Please, I'm Jamaican and the first thing people ask me is if I have seen Cool Runnings. You people don't know suffering.
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I really like this map, just from a visual standpoint. It's a representation of shipping line density. 
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iajanus posted:To be fair this happens a lot; hell, I've lost count of the times I've heard how I live in the capital of Australia (Sydney), and my cousins live in the capital of Canada (Toronto) and New Zealand (Auckland). People just have a natural tendency to assume the largest city is the capital, irrespective of whether the one in their country is. Australia is extra special because you get the two-fer. "Ohhhh....right, right, right--the capital's not Sydney; it's Melbourne!"
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Jul 12, 2013 08:25
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eSports Chaebol posted:Australia is extra special because you get the two-fer. "Ohhhh....right, right, right--the capital's not Sydney; it's Melbourne!" Heh, everyone knows it's Wien 
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Jul 12, 2013 08:42
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Thank god I am Austrian, and not Australian. I tell you, they are the worst country in Europe.
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Jul 12, 2013 09:06
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PrinceRandom posted:I really like this map, just from a visual standpoint. It's a representation of shipping line density. This really makes you appreciate human engineering. Look at that density near the Panama and Suez Canals.
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Amarkov posted:This really makes you appreciate human engineering. Look at that density near the Panama and Suez Canals. Look at the English channel, if you really want to see something scary. Doesn't get any worse than that.
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Jul 12, 2013 10:13
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Isn't this one technically incorrect, though? I thought that Great Britain was only the big island, and didn't include the fiddly bits like Mann and the Hebrides and such.
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Jul 12, 2013 11:40
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Unreal_One posted:Isn't this one technically incorrect, though? I thought that Great Britain was only the big island, and didn't include the fiddly bits like Mann and the Hebrides and such. Technically yes, though Great Britain is probably the most imprecise term of the lot of them as it very much depends on the context of what is being discussed. Most everyone in Britain will use the other terms in their technically correct sense, but Great Britain could mean the Island, England Scotland and Wales, or the UK depending on what's being discussed. But yeah definitely not the Isle of Man.
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Vegetable posted:You should all move to city-states because we don't have this problem Are you posting from ancient Greece?
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prefect posted:Are you posting from ancient Greece? He could be from Singapore!
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Jul 12, 2013 12:57
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Or Monaco or Vatican City! (I had thought there were more)
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Unreal_One posted:Isn't this one technically incorrect, though? I thought that Great Britain was only the big island, and didn't include the fiddly bits like Mann and the Hebrides and such. More importantly the northern bit of the Welsh border is drawn funny. The Wirral isn't part of Wales, dammit!  England, 876 AD The border between Viking and Anglo-Saxon territory can still be seen today in place names. The Old Norse toponym "-by" or "village" is only really found in areas marked as the Danelaw here.  Place names ending in or containing "-by" There's a couple of bits that don't match up, like I could only find two places in East Anglia and the cluster on the Wirral (the peninsula inbetween Wales and Liverpool). I can't really explain the first one, although it might have something to do with the Viking rule over East Anglia lasting significantly less time than in the northern parts. The Wirral was the site of a Viking colony apparently established around the turn of the 10th century by Vikings expelled from Ireland. It was a pretty busy port from the Iron Age because of the Dee estuary which would let you sail a ship up it when the tide was in and then turn into a giant beach when the tide went out. Edit: Also on the Wirral is Bromborough, the most likely candidate for the site of the Battle of Brunanburh during which Æthelstan, King of the English, defeated a coalition of Norse and Scottish forces that were invading the north of England. 5 Norse kings, the son of Constantine II of Scotland and a bunch of ordinary people on both sides died. Michael Livingston posted:…it would be no small stretch to consider the battle the moment when Englishness came of age. The men who fought and died on that field forged a political map of the future that remains with us today, arguably making the Battle at Brunanburh one of the most significant battles in the long history not just of England but of the whole of the British Isles. 
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PrinceRandom posted:I really like this map, just from a visual standpoint. It's a representation of shipping line density. Huh...I'm surprised at how little traffic (relatively) Australia gets compared to a lot of other places. I'm guessing it's because a lot of the other traffic is just stopping at points "along to way" to somewhere else, like around Africa, Indian Ocean, etc..., where if you're going to Australia, it's mostly just to go to Australia.
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DrBouvenstein posted:Huh...I'm surprised at how little traffic (relatively) Australia gets compared to a lot of other places. 
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Jul 12, 2013 16:50
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It makes perfect sense. Population-wise, Australia is barely twice the size of Belgium. For me, the surprising part of that map is South America.
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Vegetable posted:Or Monaco or Vatican City! (I had thought there were more)
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Phlegmish posted:It makes perfect sense. Population-wise, Australia is barely twice the size of Belgium. For me, the surprising part of that map is South America. South America is actually the reason I went looking for this map, as I was trying to find out how widely trafficked the Strait of Magellan was. It turns out it's not... Argentina and Chile seem so lonely 
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PrinceRandom posted:South America is actually the reason I went looking for this map, as I was trying to find out how widely trafficked the Strait of Magellan was. It turns out it's not... Argentina and Chile seem so lonely Yeah, one of the biggest things that map illustrates is what a good investment the Panama and Suez canals were for world shipping.
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I'm pretty surprised at how much traffic Hawaii sees.
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Mister Adequate posted:I'm pretty surprised at how much traffic Hawaii sees. The weird thing about Hawaii is that the biggest part of their traffic seems to be back-and-forth with the continental US. If it were used as a stopping point on the way to Asia/Australia/et cetera, that would seem to make more sense.
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prefect posted:The weird thing about Hawaii is that the biggest part of their traffic seems to be back-and-forth with the continental US. If it were used as a stopping point on the way to Asia/Australia/et cetera, that would seem to make more sense.
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chippocrates posted:Does this include cruises? Is Hawaii self sufficient in terms of food and other necessities? Hell no.
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Jul 12, 2013 20:55
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Hawaii is covered in retarded rich people.
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chippocrates posted:Does this include cruises? Is Hawaii self sufficient in terms of food and other necessities? No, when I was there in 2004 milk was like $8 a gallon at Safeway, which should give you an idea of what the food prices are like.
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Hawaii has like a ten day reserve of oil at any given point, and probably similar quantities of other necessities, so yeah it gets a lot of traffic just to keep it running. I suppose that's probably also why Anchorage looks to get a way disproportionate amount of traffic as well?
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prefect posted:The weird thing about Hawaii is that the biggest part of their traffic seems to be back-and-forth with the continental US. If it were used as a stopping point on the way to Asia/Australia/et cetera, that would seem to make more sense. Modern cargo ships generally have sufficient range that they can proceed directly from Hong Kong to LA (just for example) without needing to make stops on the way, so unless a ship is picking up or dropping off something in Hawaii there's no reason to go there. I wouldn't be surprised if goods produced in Asia and sold in Hawaii were typically shipped right past Hawaii to LA, warehoused, then put on a different boat and sent to Hawaii.
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Yeah, there would be zero reason for a large ship to stop off in Hawaii during a journey from Asia to North America, or vice versa. Happened a lot back in the 19th century (there was a good triangle trade going, and not despicable like that other one), but ships are far more capable these days.
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XMNN posted:
As an Englishman living in England in 2013 I can only say it's a pity they didn't wipe us all the gently caress out back then.
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Regarde Aduck posted:As an Englishman living in England in 2013 I can only say it's a pity they didn't wipe us all the gently caress out back then. Aha, I didn't mean for that to come across all nationalistic if that's how it read, it's just one of the more interesting bits of local history from where I grew up. On the bright side, Æthelstan was invading Wales and Scotland before that campaign, so if they hadn't fought the Saxons there, even more bits of Britain might have been filled with English people now.
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tbp posted:Hm I guess you do have a point, I hadn't really thought about that. I bet most Americans would get Canada right but the other two wrong. I am pretty sure most americans would think ottowa was a made up word if you asked them what it was.
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Real hurthling! posted:I am pretty sure most americans would think ottowa was a made up word if you asked them what it was. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6_7xvGrU34&t=158s Even Michael Moore agrees
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tractor fanatic posted:I don't get why people get offended by this. They obviously don't actually think you know the person they're asking about, but on the off chance you do, it's a great small-world moment. I think most ex-pats have actually had that line work. It gets asked at such an annoying high frequency that you kinda tune it out but when it works, WHOA. When I lived in Germany, I'd get asked, "Oh, you're from the US, do you know so-and-so or so-and-so?" all the time. All the time. Worked once. Holy gently caress was that crazy. A lot of my American buddies had similar stories. In my case it was totally a friend-of-a-friend thing, real distant. Still crazy but nothing worth bragging about. My buddy, on the other hand, she had a great story. She hooked up with a guy at a bar and found out that he knew a guy she dated in middle school. Coming from Milwaukee, I'd often describe where I came from as "near Chicago" and when that didn't work "near Detroit". That was usually enough, though I'm fairly confident that if I asked them to point to "Chicago" or "Detroit" on a blank map of the US they'd be totally, and I mean totally, hosed. That's fair, not a big deal. But they knew what "Chicago" and "Detroit" were, you know? The trick came when people knew enough to be dangerous. Because rather than accepting "Chicago" or "Detroit" as abstractions they wanted something concrete. That pretty much always lead to me saying, "Yes, I'm from Texas." Because that was what they wanted to hear.
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PrinceRandom posted:I really like this map, just from a visual standpoint. It's a representation of shipping line density. The significant shipping density north of Norway and south of Greenland is unexpected. For an interesting juxtaposition, airline route map (circa 2009): 
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rzeszowianin 44 posted:The significant shipping density north of Norway and south of Greenland is unexpected. It's shipping into/out of Murmansk, which is actually ice-free year-round thanks to the peculiarity of ocean currents.
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eSports Chaebol posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6_7xvGrU34&t=158s That's John Candy
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Real hurthling! posted:That's John Candy The movie was written by Michael Moore. Shbobdb posted:I think most ex-pats have actually had that line work. It gets asked at such an annoying high frequency that you kinda tune it out but when it works, WHOA. When I lived in Germany, I'd get asked, "Oh, you're from the US, do you know so-and-so or so-and-so?" all the time. All the time. Worked once. Holy gently caress was that crazy. A lot of my American buddies had similar stories. In my case it was totally a friend-of-a-friend thing, real distant. Still crazy but nothing worth bragging about. My buddy, on the other hand, she had a great story. She hooked up with a guy at a bar and found out that he knew a guy she dated in middle school. I've been an ex-pat for 3 years and I honestly don't think I've ever been asked if I know Bob from City, State yes. I did recently start teaching English so maybe it'll start. Someone mentioned the Scots and Welsh as being red-haired which reminded me of this. Does anyone know who that is out in Russia? I thought maybe it was the Tatars but my girlfriend (who is from Yekaterinburg) doesn't think so. 
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Soviet Commubot posted:Someone mentioned the Scots and Welsh as being red-haired which reminded me of this. Does anyone know who that is out in Russia? I thought maybe it was the Tatars but my girlfriend (who is from Yekaterinburg) doesn't think so. Edit: GIS first result for Urdmurts: 
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