Canadian Politics Megathread: That is simply not Trudeau

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Lobok: Jul 13, 2006; Say Watt?

infernal machines posted:

Not to mention that the easiest way for the Feds to fund this is to pull their funding from the Transit City LRT projects.

How many billions was it discovered the feds lost this past month or so? Three billion that vanished somehow? Or did it get pared down to only a billion and change?

# ? Jul 12, 2013 22:04

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 12:19

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

I've lost track. It's not as if any of that money was going to go towards transit infrastructure, let alone in Toronto.

Why commit new money when you can reshuffle the old, announce it again, and let the province and the city deal with the funding shortfall for the LRT?

# ? Jul 12, 2013 22:15

JohnnyCanuck: May 28, 2004; Strong And/Or Free

Helsing posted:

We're the fifth largest city in the North America but since the rest of the province / country resent us and most Toronto residents tend to vote based on factors other than regionalism we get massively neglected by both the province and the Feds.

And we're the CAPITAL OF CANADA but Queens Park barely remembers we exist when it comes to Provincial funding.

# ? Jul 12, 2013 23:44

The Dark One: Aug 19, 2005; I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!

Lobok posted:

How many billions was it discovered the feds lost this past month or so? Three billion that vanished somehow? Or did it get pared down to only a billion and change?

Maybe the military can afford to lend the few billion dollars it accidentally forgot to spend this year. :v:

# ? Jul 12, 2013 23:48

colonel_korn: May 16, 2003

The Dark One posted:

Maybe the military can afford to lend the few billion dollars it accidentally forgot to spend this year.

Attawapiskat should offer to send them an accountant.

# ? Jul 13, 2013 00:02

peter banana: Sep 2, 2008; Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

JohnnyCanuck posted:

And we're the CAPITAL OF CANADA but Queens Park barely remembers we exist when it comes to Provincial funding.

loving seriously. THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN YOUR BUILDING TAKE THE TTC TO GET THERE, YOU FUCKS.

# ? Jul 13, 2013 00:58

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

HipGnosis posted:

loving seriously. THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN YOUR BUILDING TAKE THE TTC TO GET THERE, YOU FUCKS.

I think he was referring to Ottawa.

# ? Jul 13, 2013 01:02

quaint bucket: Nov 29, 2007

infernal machines posted:

I think he was referring to Ottawa.

Ottawa? What's that, some district of Toronto?

# ? Jul 13, 2013 03:19

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Not according to Rick Green, it's not.

I'd love to link you to the skit but it's apparently not on the internet.

# ? Jul 13, 2013 04:29

vyelkin: Jan 2, 2011

Ontario's finance minister has come out and openly said that unless Ford comes to the table with serious proposals for how Toronto would pay their share of a subway extension rather than a new LRT, "it will be a very short conversation" because the LRT plans are already in place, already paid for, provide the exact same level of service, and cost less which frees up more money to be spent on transit elsewhere (not that that $500M/$1B will actually get spent on other transit, but oh well). Ford's scheme here is really transparent and everyone involved is aware of that and doesn't want to put up with it.

# ? Jul 13, 2013 15:13

bunnyofdoom: Mar 29, 2008; [b]BUNNIES ARE CUTE BUT DEADLY/b]

JohnnyCanuck posted:

And we're the CAPITAL OF CANADA but Queens Park barely remembers we exist when it comes to Provincial funding.

Even more hilarious considering the premier's riding was Ottawa South, and Yasir Naqvi's (OLP president)is Ottawa Centre.

# ? Jul 13, 2013 15:16

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

vyelkin posted:

Ford's scheme here is really transparent and everyone involved is aware of that and doesn't want to put up with it.

I can't see what Karen Stintz' angle is here. I get that she wants to run for Mayor next year, but does drinking Mayor Ford's kool-aid really help her after she had so much popularity and success acting as his antagonist from the right? I really can't figure it.

# ? Jul 13, 2013 16:20

Lobok: Jul 13, 2006; Say Watt?

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

I can't see what Karen Stintz' angle is here. I get that she wants to run for Mayor next year, but does drinking Mayor Ford's kool-aid really help her after she had so much popularity and success acting as his antagonist from the right? I really can't figure it.

She could be running for Mayor, making her case for Deputy Mayor if Holyday goes provincial, or simply vying for reelection by showing that she can get transit built, be diplomatic, have "vision".

# ? Jul 13, 2013 16:46

Helsing: Aug 23, 2003; DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU JOE BIDEN

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

I can't see what Karen Stintz' angle is here. I get that she wants to run for Mayor next year, but does drinking Mayor Ford's kool-aid really help her after she had so much popularity and success acting as his antagonist from the right? I really can't figure it.

A lot of Stinz' support came from people like me who almost certainly never consider voting for her but who appreciated the fact she was willing to derail Ford's agenda and re-establish the much more reasonable arrangement that Miller had negotiated.

If she actually wants to win she needs to attract conservative voters, many of whom are really angry at her for what they view as her betrayal of Ford.

JohnnyCanuck posted:

And we're the CAPITAL OF CANADA but Queens Park barely remembers we exist when it comes to Provincial funding.

The TTC pays 63.2% of their operating expenses using fares, whereas Ottawa's transit system only covers 52% of their expenses with fares. I agree that both systems should get better funding but its worth emphasizing that Toronto, despite being the largest city in the country, gets a significantly worse deal on transit than any other Canadian or American city of comparable size.

Also, on an unrelated note, the jokes here pretty much write themselves:

CBC posted:

Conservative convention rescheduled for Halloween

The Conservative Party's national policy convention has been rescheduled to Oct. 31, according to party president John Walsh, who issued a written statement on Friday.

The convention was originally to be held in Calgary beginning June 27, but was postponed due to the floods.

"We have been working closely with the authorities and local businesses in Calgary to find the adequate space, despite the understandable difficulties with such a short time frame," Walsh said.

The convention will take place from Oct. 31 to Nov. 2 at the BMO Centre, Stampede Park, in Calgary.

"This decision reaffirms our commitment to Calgary � a great Canadian city that has shown tremendous courage in the face of the Alberta floods," Walsh said.

With a major cabinet shuffle expected this summer, a fall convention will be a chance for Prime Minister Stephen Harper to showcase the fresh faces he is expected to add to his inner circle.

Five members of Harper's cabinet have cleared the way for the prime minister to appoint new talent to his front bench: Vic Toews, Marjory LeBreton, Diane Ablonczy, Ted Menzies, and Keith Ashfield.

The senate expenses scandal and the $90,000 cheque the prime minister's former chief of staff Nigel Wright gave to Senator Mike Duffy to repay ineligible expenses � a transaction now being investigated by the RCMP � derailed Harper's agenda for the better part of the spring sitting.

Helsing fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Jul 13, 2013

# ? Jul 13, 2013 17:14

Blade_of_tyshalle: Jul 12, 2009; If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

God, I want Harper to do the convention dressed as Frankenstein's monster. Laureen can be the Bride :twisted:

# ? Jul 13, 2013 17:17

Franks Happy Place: Mar 15, 2011; It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the dank of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion.

CBC posted:

"This decision reaffirms our commitment to Calgary — a great Canadian city that has shown tremendous courage in the face of the Alberta floods," Walsh said.

I promise you, dude- nobody ever doubted the CPC's commitment to Calgary. :rolleyes:

# ? Jul 13, 2013 17:23

HookShot: Dec 26, 2005

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

God, I want Harper to do the convention dressed as Frankenstein's monster. Laureen can be the Bride

When I went trick or treating at 24 Sussex back in 2006 Harper was dressed as a zombie and boy was that outfit fitting. Laureen had so much more charisma than he did, it was actually kind of jarring.

Also Michelle Jean was dressed as a witch and she was totally awesome and really into it.

# ? Jul 13, 2013 17:28

Powershift: Nov 23, 2009

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

God, I want Harper to do the convention dressed as Frankenstein's monster. Laureen can be the Bride

He's done every other convention as Frankenstein's monster, i want him to pick something new.

# ? Jul 14, 2013 04:49

Imperialist Dog: Oct 21, 2008; "I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
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The TTC should follow the Hong Kong model. Build shopping centres and high rise apartment blocks on top of the subway station so thousands of residents now find it more convenient to use public transit, and pay operating costs from property rents. With the large Cantonese business population I'm surprised it hasn't been done already.

# ? Jul 15, 2013 13:53

Lumius: Nov 24, 2004; Superior Awesome Sucks

Imperialist Dog posted:

The TTC should follow the Hong Kong model. Build shopping centres and high rise apartment blocks on top of the subway station so thousands of residents now find it more convenient to use public transit, and pay operating costs from property rents. With the large Cantonese business population I'm surprised it hasn't been done already.

hello yonge and finch area.

# ? Jul 15, 2013 14:00

Canuckistan: Jan 14, 2004; I'm the greatest thing since World War III.; Soiled Meat

So big shuffle today. Different people same poo poo?

# ? Jul 15, 2013 14:00

Dreylad: Jun 19, 2001

With probably the most powerful people in cabinet (Flarherty and Baird) keeping their jobs I'm not sure how much will change.

# ? Jul 15, 2013 14:22

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

Imperialist Dog posted:

The TTC should follow the Hong Kong model. Build shopping centres and high rise apartment blocks on top of the subway station so thousands of residents now find it more convenient to use public transit, and pay operating costs from property rents. With the large Cantonese business population I'm surprised it hasn't been done already.

This is not dissimilar to the P3 "plan" the Mayor has been selling to the masses. Unfortunately, this post is also as detailed about implementation as the Mayor's plan.

# ? Jul 15, 2013 14:27

colonel_korn: May 16, 2003

The new appointments are being announced on Twitter, I guess.

https://twitter.com/pmharper

So far:

Pleased to name @MinBValcourt Minister for Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development
Pleased to name @michellerempel Minister of State (Western Economic Diversification)
Pleased to name @shellygloverMP as Minister of Canadian Heritage and Official Languages
Pleased to name Kevin Sorenson Minister of State (Finance)
Pleased to name Greg Rickford Minister of State (Science and Technology / Fednor)
Pleased to name @kerrylynnefindl Minister of National Revenue
Pleased to name @kellieleitch as Minister of Labour and Minister of Status of Women

# ? Jul 15, 2013 15:15

colonel_korn: May 16, 2003

Bigger announcements now:

Leona Aglukkaq to Environment
James Moore to Industry
Rona Ambrose to Health

# ? Jul 15, 2013 15:27

Canuckistan: Jan 14, 2004; I'm the greatest thing since World War III.; Soiled Meat

Huh, Baird got Foreign Affairs.

# ? Jul 15, 2013 15:27

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Pierre Poilievre makes Cabinet :barf:

For Democratic Reform :barf:

# ? Jul 15, 2013 15:27

Dallan Invictus: Oct 11, 2007; The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes, look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.

Polievre as Minister of State (Democratic Reform)

:laffo:

There is a god and he has a sick sense of humour.

# ? Jul 15, 2013 15:28

colonel_korn: May 16, 2003

Julian Fantino somehow manages to keep a job, Minister of Veteran Affairs.

# ? Jul 15, 2013 15:31

colonel_korn: May 16, 2003

Chris Alexander to Citizenship and Immigration. Uhh, that's a bit surprising, isn't it? Where's Kenney off to?

# ? Jul 15, 2013 15:35

Precambrian Video Games: Aug 19, 2002

colonel_korn posted:

Chris Alexander to Citizenship and Immigration. Uhh, that's a bit surprising, isn't it? Where's Kenney off to?

Probably engaging in a shadowy background power struggle.

I have no idea who half of these people are, but at least the new Science minister isn't a loving young Earth creationist chiropractor, so he can't be worse than Goodyear, right?

# ? Jul 15, 2013 15:38

Canuckistan: Jan 14, 2004; I'm the greatest thing since World War III.; Soiled Meat

According to his wiki he doesn't have much background in science. Not sure what to think here.

# ? Jul 15, 2013 15:42

Canuckistan: Jan 14, 2004; I'm the greatest thing since World War III.; Soiled Meat

There he is:

Pleased to name @kenneyjason Minister of Employment and Social Development (formerly HRSDC)

also

Pleased to name @TonyclementCPC President of the Treasury Board
Pleased to name Diane Finley Minister of Public Works and Government Services

# ? Jul 15, 2013 15:43

Paper Jam Dipper: Jul 14, 2007; by XyloJW

Helsing posted:

We're the fifth largest city in the North America

Fourth now. You passed Chicago recently.

# ? Jul 15, 2013 15:44

Canuckistan: Jan 14, 2004; I'm the greatest thing since World War III.; Soiled Meat

Pleased to name @RobNicholsonCPC Minister National Defence
Pleased to name @MinPeterMacKay Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada

# ? Jul 15, 2013 15:49

Blade_of_tyshalle: Jul 12, 2009; If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Canuckistan posted:

Pleased to name @kenneyjason Minister of Employment and Social Development (formerly HRSDC)

mailto: jasonkenney @ parl.gc.ca subj: I need a job You're the Minister of Employment, hook a brother up. luv, -BoT

# ? Jul 15, 2013 16:21

ZeeBoi: Jan 17, 2001

lol Ambrose is never able to hold onto her portfolio.

Also, laffing at McKay's "demotion". I can't wait to see what that rear end in a top hat Nicholson will do to our army.

# ? Jul 15, 2013 16:37

klockwerk: Jun 30, 2007; dsch

Shelly Glover @ShellyGloverMP Minister of Heritage and Official Languages

I'm trying to investigate, but http://www.shellyglover.ca/ gives me a 404. Off to a good start!

She also don't bother using Twitter and no Facebook updates since October 2012. I almost expect noteworthy politicians (i.e. cabinet ministers) to make use of social networking... is that so wrong?

Yet another Heritage Minister with no background whatsoever in anything heritage related. She is Metis and speaks French and English fluently, so I suppose that explains the Official Languages title.

# ? Jul 15, 2013 16:39

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA: May 29, 2008

This is kind of hilarious.

# ? Jul 15, 2013 16:41

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Franks Happy Place: Mar 15, 2011; It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the dank of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion.

Greg Rickford in cabinet is a loving travesty. That dude is the weirdest, :spergin:

-est, most awkwardly antisocial OCD dude I ever had the displeasure of meeting with in Ottawa. :psyduck:

# ? Jul 15, 2013 16:45

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