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zzMisc
Jun 26, 2002

D2 Pre-Orders up.

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ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

That's not all


Disgaea 4 Returns has been announced for the Vita! Not much information is on it but I have high hopes because if they fix the post game it'll be amazing :v:!

Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

That's not all


Disgaea 4 Returns has been announced for the Vita! Not much information is on it but I have high hopes because if they fix the post game it'll be amazing :v:!

Oh man, I've been looking for more excuses for a Vita. if it's anything like the D3 Vita I'll need one soon.

King of Solomon
Oct 23, 2008

S S

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

That's not all


Disgaea 4 Returns has been announced for the Vita! Not much information is on it but I have high hopes because if they fix the post game it'll be amazing :v:!

This was pretty much guaranteed to happen, but gently caress I can't wait anyways. I loved Disgaea 4, and I'll love it even more with whatever improvements they bring along (and on that gorgeous screen.)

Cape Cod Crab Chip
Feb 20, 2011

Now you don't have to suck meat from an exoskeleton!
Oh man if they fix D4's problems I just might break down and buy a Vita.

Also, since this thread's showing some activity, does anyone happen to have a link to some D2 game mechanics? Evilities, move properties, anything you have really. Japanese pages filtered through Google Translate acceptable. Failing that, I'd appreciate anything anyone might wanna type up.

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

I actually never bought Disgaea 4 because I assumed an improved version would come to Vita :v: I hear it's one of the best so with all the improvements it should be great.

FrantzX
Jan 28, 2007


The peak of Mt. Number Porn.

Scher
Sep 15, 2011

~Solar Sect of Mystic Wisdom~

FrantzX posted:



The peak of Mt. Number Porn.

Wow, that is just ridiculous. I thought it was crazy enough as it was being able to max out traps on the Vita version of D3. I'm assuming this is a Disgaea D2 screenshot? Since there's only one level 999 item, I'm assuming there's no method for duping this time around?

FrantzX
Jan 28, 2007


One Trillion Damage!

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

FrantzX posted:



The peak of Mt. Number Porn.

Over 200 Billion HP, a "bit" less SP with 500 Million in the other stats.

It's... beautiful.

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

... Items go to 1000 now?

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


FrantzX posted:



The peak of Mt. Number Porn.

How long did that take?!

Clam Chowdown
May 8, 2006

That's an unacceptable answer, Donny!
Does she have 185% crit chance? What does that even mean?

Bloodly
Nov 3, 2008

Not as strong as you'd expect.
Double or even triple criticals. Or possibly there's a stat or status that counters Critical.

Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010

FrantzX posted:



One Trillion Damage!

It's beautiful.

It'll be hard not to take a day off and plow through it when I get a hold of it.

Shoopuf
Oct 18, 2010

Don't touch shoopuf. Tailss will be shlapping!
Weird, but quick question. At what point in Disgaea 3 (Detention, not Justice) should I actually care about having a bunch of cool, different units and when is too early to just grind everything into oblivion? I'm only in chapter 2, having just returned to Mao's heart after eating the sunny-side up dragon egg, and it's hard to tell when numbermania is supposed to start!

As far as getting my hands on the rest of the games go, it looks like only Disgaea PSP is good to get? With a Vita version of 2 being released and 4 also getting the Vita treatment. Is this correct?

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

Shoopuf posted:

Weird, but quick question. At what point in Disgaea 3 (Detention, not Justice) should I actually care about having a bunch of cool, different units and when is too early to just grind everything into oblivion? I'm only in chapter 2, having just returned to Mao's heart after eating the sunny-side up dragon egg, and it's hard to tell when numbermania is supposed to start!

As far as getting my hands on the rest of the games go, it looks like only Disgaea PSP is good to get? With a Vita version of 2 being released and 4 also getting the Vita treatment. Is this correct?
You probably shouldn't give much of a poo poo about grinding until you get into the postgame, at which point you'll have the tools and resources to make grinding fun and efficient. At least wait until you unlock Class World, not sure if the vita version changes anything but you should be getting it pretty soon.

Disgaea 1, even the PSP version, is really primitive compared to the later games, its kinda hard to go back to it in a serious way. The story might be good enough to go back and just play the campaign though. If you want to go backwards, the PSP port of Disgaea 2 is the game you want to play. As far as I know its not coming to Vita but I don't really keep track of that stuff.

Cape Cod Crab Chip
Feb 20, 2011

Now you don't have to suck meat from an exoskeleton!
The main campaign of D3 is actually surprisingly tightly balanced and you can beat it without doing any grinding if you use the characters the story provides and stick to using uniques once you have good enough characters to replace the generics so as to not diffuse EXP gain too much. Doing so, you'll actually find yourself considering movement ranges, managing resources and all that good SRPG poo poo, with little to no grinding required. Once you reach the postgame, though, the math gets bugfuck stupid and that's when you start grinding and just go nuts with what team you dreamed of.

As for the rest of the games, yeah, always go for the enhanced portable editions if you want extra content. Personally I like playing my games on a large screen, but if you don't care about that (and don't mind waiting an extra three years to get your hands on an installment in the franchise) then the portable releases are the way to go.

Miracon
Jan 1, 2010

Cape Cod Crab Chip posted:

The main campaign of D3 is actually surprisingly tightly balanced and you can beat it without doing any grinding if you use the characters the story provides and stick to using uniques once you have good enough characters to replace the generics so as to not diffuse EXP gain too much.

Am I the only one who really likes the generic classes? I tend to use them ahead of all of the special characters.

King of Solomon
Oct 23, 2008

S S

Miracon posted:

Am I the only one who really likes the generic classes? I tend to use them ahead of all of the special characters.

Hell no. Ever since the first Disgaea, my long-term plan every game has been to unlock the Lady Samurai and make her the core of my squad.

Cousin Todd
Jul 3, 2007
Grimey Drawer
I loved the tree men in 2.

Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010

Miracon posted:

Am I the only one who really likes the generic classes? I tend to use them ahead of all of the special characters.

I usually only use a couple of the special classes myself. Not even all of the main characters. (In 4, only Val, Fuka and Artina were regular parts of my main team). Generics also have a MUCH easier time learning more skills, at least in 3 and 4, rather than dragging everyone through the Class World to learn Big Bang, they just start as a Bodyguard, learn Big Bang, then move on to whatever I was going to make them in the first place.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

I have yet to play a Disgaea game without a spear using Lady Fighter.

She's my MVP. :colbert:

Cape Cod Crab Chip
Feb 20, 2011

Now you don't have to suck meat from an exoskeleton!
Y'all are weird.

counterspin
Apr 2, 2010

My team is always headed by a ghost named Haunt who is first in line for all the best goodies. This is the only correct way to play.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

Dr Pepper posted:

I have yet to play a Disgaea game without a spear using Lady Fighter.

She's my MVP. :colbert:
This is always the first guy I make and she never leaves my main group :unsmigghh:

Clam Chowdown
May 8, 2006

That's an unacceptable answer, Donny!
I'm not gonna knock on generic troops cause I always have an archer and magic knight, but a spear user? C'mon, guys.

sentrygun
Dec 29, 2009

i say~
hey start:nya-sh
My thief is the core of my team every time. I don't even remember to steal poo poo once it becomes relevant, but man I gotta use guns right away.

Marogareh
Feb 23, 2011
All I need is a ninja that can punch someone through the solar system.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
In Disgaea D2 I don't know what I would do without my heavy knight, thanks to their broken as gently caress passive ability. If you set them to guard during your turn, they will take a hit for ANY allied unit on the map, no matter where they are, no matter how many times (until they die). Load them down with hp boosting items and your team just doesn't get hit.

Cheap Trick
Jan 4, 2007

A new challenger appears!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnQIByYsX30

Sonata Mused
Feb 19, 2013

I'll show you... a nightmare...
Love it. Just reminds me how much I really really want Witch and The Hundred Knights.

TEGGS
Nov 21, 2004

Spoony Bard!
So D2 has dual specials or something?

Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010

TEGGS posted:

So D2 has dual specials or something?

It's replacing Magichange. Instead you can ride monsters, and get their defensive stats or something, and there's a new attack for each monster while being ridden.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Hunter Noventa posted:

It's replacing Magichange. Instead you can ride monsters, and get their defensive stats or something, and there's a new attack for each monster while being ridden.
It's pretty awesome, as long as the monster has more hp/defenses than the rider (since they take 100% of the damage until they die). If not it's pointless.

It's still the best thing the series has done with monster units so far, brings them the closest yet to me actually wanting to use them when it's a choice between them and a humanoid unit.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

Samurai Sanders posted:

me actually wanting to use them when it's a choice between them and a humanoid unit.

I hope Desco is an exception :colbert:

Your Moms Ahegao
Sep 3, 2008

Hunter Noventa posted:

It's replacing Magichange. Instead you can ride monsters, and get their defensive stats or something, and there's a new attack for each monster while being ridden.

Teggs was talking about the Climax Combo Collabo at the 3:00 min mark, I think.

Edit: Oh, Metallica is a monster class, so it is a Magi Change type attack, weird.

Your Moms Ahegao fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Jul 28, 2013

TEGGS
Nov 21, 2004

Spoony Bard!

Monomythian posted:

Teggs was talking about the Climax Combo Collabo at the 3:00 min mark, I think.

Edit: Oh, Metallica is a monster class, so it is a Magi Change type attack, weird.

Yeah, the thing she did with Laharl.

Velho!
Sep 12, 2011
I'm starting Disgaea 4 now and it will be the first one I take seriously (I played 1 way back when and didn't go very far for whatever reason). Anything I should know to make this more awesome? Opinions on the english/japanese V.A. are something I'm curious about, for one...

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Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe
Do not patch it if you plan to really get into endgame and don't want a stupid ammount of grinding.

Either language is fine, but I do prefer the English slightly. If only for Desco's amazing voicework. Speaking of Desco, don't do too much grinding at all until you get her. She's an amazing mana farmer.

Mokinokaro fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Jul 28, 2013

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