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User-Friendly posted:...the director wasn't allowed to take risks (including sympathizing with the villain). The worst offenders were Iron Man 2, Thor, and Captain America. Did you actually watch Thor? Loki, for as big of an rear end in a top hat as he is, is pretty sympathetic. That part of the story is even carried into The Avengers. I'd also argue that making the movie version of Thor as faithful to the comics as it was, both visually and in concept, was probably one of the bigger risks taken in any superhero movie. It could have been a disaster yet they just rolled with it and played it straight. DFu4ever fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Jul 21, 2013 |
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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=83845 So, uh, this is a little surprising. I could see this going one of two ways: 1. Ultron is Stark's, as a malfunction of his AI driven suits. 2. Ultron is introduced by SHIELD, and it turns out (in a later movie) that it was Pym all along
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Jul 21, 2013 21:07
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aBagorn posted:http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=83845 How sad. I was really looking forward to seeing Pym in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I always thought the way he was handled in the Ultimates made him so tragic and interesting. Oh well, I think Ultron being a product of Stark could definitely work as an offshoot of Jarvis, as well as the possibility (and probability) of the inclusion of LMDs.
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Jul 21, 2013 21:09
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Tuxedo Jack posted:How sad. I was really looking forward to seeing Pym in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I always thought the way he was handled in the Ultimates made him so tragic and interesting. Oh well, I think Ultron being a product of Stark could definitely work as an offshoot of Jarvis, as well as the possibility (and probability) of the inclusion of LMDs. Pym will be in the MCU, but not until Phase 3
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Jul 21, 2013 21:10
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Tuxedo Jack posted:How sad. I was really looking forward to seeing Pym in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I always thought the way he was handled in the Ultimates made him so tragic and interesting. Oh well, I think Ultron being a product of Stark could definitely work as an offshoot of Jarvis, as well as the possibility (and probability) of the inclusion of LMDs. Did they not announce an Ant Man movie already? I could have sworn I had heard that. I'm sure Hank will make it in at some point though.
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"Part of the fun for me, definitely this time around, is writing Hawkeye. He did get possessed pretty early by a bad guy and had to walk around all scowly for most of the movie so now it's nice to actually have the character there and see him interact with the other guys." He didn't have to, that's how you wrote him and it was boring. Edit: I really hope they don't introduce Life Model Decoys. A True Jar Jar Fan fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Jul 21, 2013 |
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Jul 21, 2013 21:13
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aBagorn posted:http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=83845 I'd be on board for the SHIELD idea and the Pym reveal in Ant-Man.
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Surlaw posted:"Part of the fun for me, definitely this time around, is writing Hawkeye. He did get possessed pretty early by a bad guy and had to walk around all scowly for most of the movie so now it's nice to actually have the character there and see him interact with the other guys." To be fair that's how Marvel wanted him to write it. Whedon had very little say on the plot for that film and Marvel had come to him with a fully formed idea (And a completed script). They allowed him to do a rewrite but it was basically all dialogue.
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Jul 21, 2013 21:23
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The Dave posted:Have any of the panel teasers leaked? Haven't scrubbed through it, but here's the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe panel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh5hCBlD-tc [edit] Tom Hiddleston loves this poo poo.
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Jul 21, 2013 21:27
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Senor Candle posted:Did they not announce an Ant Man movie already? I could have sworn I had heard that. I'm sure Hank will make it in at some point though. I was under the impression they were going with Scott Lang for Ant-Man, and with this news, I would assume they were cutting Pym out entirely... I'd be very happy to be wrong.
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Jul 21, 2013 21:40
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Tuxedo Jack posted:I was under the impression they were going with Scott Lang for Ant-Man, and with this news, I would assume they were cutting Pym out entirely... I'd be very happy to be wrong.
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Jul 21, 2013 21:44
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aBagorn posted:http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=83845 It wouldn't be out of line of have Tony create Ultron. I was just looking forward to tying Pym into the story and including him in Avengers 2, so that makes me sad. At the very least, can we still have Ultron become sentient after coming into contact with Scarlet Witch, falling in love with her, and then flipping out in a jealous rage because she is in love with her brother?
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Jul 21, 2013 22:34
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You know what would be insane and actually kind of cool? Ultron being the Jarvis AI.
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Jul 21, 2013 23:22
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Timeless Appeal posted:You know what would be insane and actually kind of cool? Ultron being the Jarvis AI. Maybe one of the suits that gained autonomy/sentience. It would tie in to the end of Iron Man 3, without having Iron Man 3 rely on the future movie like Iron Man 2 did.
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Jul 21, 2013 23:27
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Devour posted:Do you mind me asking why?
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Ofc. Sex Robot BPD posted:Because it means there'll be another melodramatic scene where she activates her ability by looking straight up at the camera, eyes pure white, as it zooms in on her face. So why are you mad that Halle Berry is playing Storm?
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Jul 21, 2013 23:37
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Timeless Appeal posted:You know what would be insane and actually kind of cool? Ultron being the Jarvis AI. This would also handily address the issue of "Why would Tony ever need to put himself in danger instead of remote-controlling multiple suits?" that might otherwise require a slightly less tidy application of comic book science to prevent.
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The Nova Corps costumes are a little underwhelming but it does get the point of a police sort of force across so it's cool. I'm kinda hoping if there's a Nova Prime of sorts its Richard Rider in the costume he used in Annihilation. And I did love the costumes from here but whatever, it all seems cool enough. EDIT: You know what, screw it. Have a teen superhero movie with Nova like in the current book. That'd be a lot more fun and open audiences.  vs 
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Jul 22, 2013 01:22
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Ofc. Sex Robot BPD posted:Because it means there'll be another melodramatic scene where she activates her ability by looking straight up at the camera, eyes pure white, as it zooms in on her face.
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Devour posted:That has nothing to do with Halle Berry's fine rear end playing storm. You're talking about the character storm itself, in which I actually do find your argument somewhat valid. Maybe they'll have her go all Emperor Palpatine or some poo poo with the lightning in the future. You're not even talking about the character. That is the director or whatever that wants to do that shot.
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Jul 22, 2013 02:29
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Senor Candle posted:You're not even talking about the character. That is the director or whatever that wants to do that shot.
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Jul 22, 2013 02:34
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Devour posted:Storm can discharge lightning from her finger tips? I don't know why you would assume I was talking about the second half of your post.
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Devour posted:Do you mind me asking why? Because she's been terrible in the role.
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teagone posted:Because she's been terrible in the role.
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Timeless Appeal posted:You know what would be insane and actually kind of cool? Ultron being the Jarvis AI. Ultron's first appearance in Avengers #54 actually involved a brainwashed Jarvis mess (i.e. Jarvis is a bad guy using a robot! No wait, he's been controlled by the robot known as Ultron), so like the Loki thing in the first Avengers movie being a call back to the first Avengers comic, Jarvis being involved with Ultron would be a good call back again.
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Timeless Appeal posted:To be fair, it's a loving terrible role. I think the only thing you can truly blame her for is thinking that increasing her screen time in these films would somehow give Storm depth and give her some handle on the character besides "Speaks with an accent(?)" Pretty much. With Wolverine always in the picture, there hasn't been any chance for other characters to do anything meaningful except play off Wolverine in various ways. Storm's cinematic journey and character development can be summed up as follows: X-Men (2000): Lightning! X2: X-Men United (2003): Befriend Kurt. Tornados (sans sharks)! X-Men: Last Stand (2006): New promotion at work because her boss and her boss's boss both died. Flying like a top! I don't get the hate for Halle Berry because she sure as didn't write those scripts and limit her character on purpose. Maybe its all a grudge because she kinda sorta dissed the source material long ago but not really. The real problem with the X-Men movies has been Wolverine.
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Cocks Cable posted:The real problem with the X-Men movies has been Wolverine. It's kind of a catch-22 then, because if Wolverine is their biggest problem I'd say Hugh Jackman is still arguably their biggest asset. I say arguably because of Stewart and McKellen's chemistry.
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Cocks Cable posted:I don't get the hate for Halle Berry because she sure as didn't write those scripts and limit her character on purpose.
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Cocks Cable posted:The real problem with the X-Men movies has been Wolverine. If you removed Hugh Jackman/Wolverine from these movies you would chop their box office in half, and that's being fairly generous to the rest of the cast/characters.
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Supreme Allah posted:If you removed Hugh Jackman/Wolverine from these movies you would chop their box office in half, and that's being fairly generous to the rest of the cast/characters.
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Umpire Weekend posted:I dunno about that, First Class did pretty good, didn't it? Wolverine's ten second appearance in that movie is very arguably the most popular part of it. It also grossed less than all three X-Men movies and Wolverine Origins.
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Naw guys listen, Storm has a deep and wonderful personality! For example, she's from Africa! Ooooh! There's only like one other marvel hero from there! Her struggle against claustrophobia is the stuff of legends! Children everywhere look up to her in their fight against the worst villain of them all: enclosed spaces. And don't get me started about how she's part of the x-men. loving x-men! That poo poo is the real deal. She could've ended up in some third rate group like the avengers or the guardians of the galaxy or that one group with just four people in it (seriously those guys are losers), but no she's the best and only the best get into the x-men therefore she deserves to be there. When hollywood hired Halle "I only act when I want to" Berry to be storm I bet she was all like "Awesome I am getting paid better show my best acting skills oh wait this movie is about man children gently caress it time to phone it in" seriously she is the worst!!! Hollywood hates comic book people.
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I hate comic book people.
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Comic book people are eminently hateable and the only reason comic book movies are any good is because Hollywood ignores them. If they didn't then comic book movies would have died 13 years ago when Danzig was running around in yellow pajamas.
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Halle Berry phoned it in but so did a lot of people. There are only like 3 standouts in X-Men
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Mu Zeta posted:Halle Berry phoned it in but so did a lot of people. There are only like 3 standouts in X-Men Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen, Hugh Jackman... Anna Paquin? I don't feel like she did a bad job. Though I think yea, everyone else just went through the motions.
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Apparently Rebecca Romijn isn't going to be in Days of Future Past at all.  I know she was "cured" in that terrible X3 movie, but as mystique she was by far the best part of the original 3 films in my opinion.E: That eerie/creepy as gently caress sound that occurred whenever she appeared on screen, oh god. 
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Fishylungs posted:Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen, Hugh Jackman... Anna Paquin? I don't feel like she did a bad job. I like Magneto, Wolverine, and Mystique. Patrick Stewart was fine but he was just doing Captain Picard
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If there's one thing the X-Men movies all did right, it's Mystique. What a lovely boring comic book character turned into a creepy interesting movie villain.
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Devour posted:Apparently Rebecca Romijn isn't going to be in Days of Future Past at all. http://www.comicvine.com/articles/x-men-days-of-future-past-have-a-look-at-bishop-an/1100-146887/ Scroll down to the third image. 
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