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Tornhelm posted:You know nothing, Daric. It's never going to happen - she's writing other things
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Dravs posted:This is why I generally try and stick with Sanderson these days. He seems to be some kind of robotic book generation matrix. I have even heard that when he needs to take a break from writing, he relaxes by writing something else! Butcher does this, too. That's why, during Alera, his Dresden books kept a tighter schedule. Now he's got Cinder Spires started, so maybe it'll work the same way.
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Jul 18, 2013 16:48
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VanSandman posted:Felix Castor, dammit! Although it lacks a proper resolution. The Rook should be required reading for this thread.
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ConfusedUs posted:The Rook should be required reading for this thread. And there will be a quiz at the end of the thread.
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Jul 18, 2013 19:08
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ConfusedUs posted:The Rook should be required reading for this thread. Just make sure it's The Rook by Daniel O'Malley and not The Rook by Steven James. You're in for a lot of "How the gently caress is this Urban Fantasy" if you make that mistake.
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Dravs posted:That's it, just finished Cold Days.. *boosh* Have you read the spinoff short stories yet?
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Dravs posted:That's it, just finished Cold Days.. *boosh* Yeah I loved the ending of cold days.
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ConfusedUs posted:The Rook should be required reading for this thread. No, it shouldn't. I've tried three times, and it's just too dumb to get past the stupid initial premise.
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torgeaux posted:No, it shouldn't. I've tried three times, and it's just too dumb to get past the stupid initial premise. You're going to need to explain how The Rook is any more ridiculous than anything else recommended in this thread.
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Ornamented Death posted:You're going to need to explain how The Rook is any more ridiculous than anything else recommended in this thread. Easy. Magic? Suspend disbelief, same for mythical creatures. Amnesia, zero knowledge, but go to work, at an Intel type agency, with zero prep? Pretenfding to be someone known to lots of people? The whole premise is unworkable, and the author does a poor job of trying.
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I don't think its that bad. Her past self did a whole bunch of prep work and left her tons of notes. Plus, she wasn't social at all before. She's not pretending to be someone who knows everyone and has a bunch of inside jokes with them; she's pretending to be the quiet one who sits in her office and makes sure the numbers line up all day. Also her coworkers do realize that something happened to her. Most of them just come to the wrong conclusion and two of them are actually helping to cover for her.
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Jul 19, 2013 01:28
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torgeaux posted:No, it shouldn't. I've tried three times, and it's just too dumb to get past the stupid initial premise. This is the most incorrect statement I've read in a while. I keep selling people on this book because I keep telling them that it is the single best use of an amnesia plot.
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Jul 19, 2013 01:31
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cbservo posted:This is the most incorrect statement I've read in a while. I'm in the minority here,I know. Three tries because of the love here. Still a terrible, unbelievable job. Just not seeing how people get past it.
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Anias posted:It's never going to happen - she's writing other things My hope at this stage is that she's gonna do what she did for The Diviner and is just working on it (even in part) while not talking about it.
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From what I understand the manuscript for The Captol's Tower was destroyed or something at some point by her, so I wouldn't keep waiting if I were you.
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torgeaux posted:Easy. Magic? Suspend disbelief, same for mythical creatures. Amnesia, zero knowledge, but go to work, at an Intel type agency, with zero prep? Pretenfding to be someone known to lots of people? The whole premise is unworkable, and the author does a poor job of trying. Zero prep? Did you miss the part where she had an entire luggage set + safe house full of info because she knew the amnesia was coming in the first place? And as for the second part, pretty much everyone thought something was up the second she came back.
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torgeaux posted:I'm in the minority here,I know. Three tries because of the love here. Still a terrible, unbelievable job. Just not seeing how people get past it. I feel your pain. I've tried the Malazan books half a dozen times because of all the love they get in EVERY fantasy thread, but I just can't like them.
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I've never heard of anyone being just okay with the Malazan books. Its always a strong hate or love. I am firmly in the hate column.
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I like some of the malazan stuff, but don't love it - so put me in the middle? I think it's an interesting structure for epic fantasy, but it's not always the best delivery and I certainly skimmed the poo poo out of some of it when I first started them.
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404GoonNotFound posted:Zero prep? Did you miss the part where she had an entire luggage set + safe house full of info because she knew the amnesia was coming in the first place? No, I didn't miss the part where she spent one day reading files before going to work.
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Whoever recommended the Metro 2033 books in this thread must have been desperate for a book. I'm about halfway through it and my brain hurts so bad, but now I need to know what happens to this poor little guy living in the sewers under Moscow after a total nuclear war + 40 years  . The Russian > English translation leaves a little bit to be desired.
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Kwyndig posted:From what I understand the manuscript for The Captol's Tower was destroyed or something at some point by her, so I wouldn't keep waiting if I were you. Believe me, I know all about the whole saga of her mental issues, losing the plans she had for the third book, getting contracted to write other books instead, etc. I still hold out hope though, because at this stage I've been waiting for the book half my life. It also helps that I'm well past the GRRM stage, now the wait has aged like the 30 year old bottle of port that I bought when I got book 2 and have been aging ever since while waiting for its release. And as a bonus, if the book never comes out, I'll have a bloody amazing drink waiting for me for when I finally crack it open. Tornhelm fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Jul 19, 2013 |
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Wade Wilson posted:Just make sure it's The Rook by Daniel O'Malley and not The Rook by Steven James. You're in for a lot of "How the gently caress is this Urban Fantasy" if you make that mistake. I put Nocturnal on reserve at the library, Scott Sigler does some awesome horror and when I went to pick it up I was given some romance novel. I bet there's a lot of crossover titles.
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Virigoth posted:Whoever recommended the Metro 2033 books in this thread must have been desperate for a book. I'm about halfway through it and my brain hurts so bad, but now I need to know what happens to this poor little guy living in the sewers under Moscow after a total nuclear war + 40 years Metro 2033 is a fantastic book and while the translation leaves alot to be desired, a large portion of the book is missed by not knowing its political commentary on the current political and social climate in Russia which ties heavily into Artyoms seemingly complete lack of personal agency. Also it has a awesome unreliable narrator and amazingly creepy atmosphere even if the pacing is all over the place.
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Virigoth posted:Whoever recommended the Metro 2033 books in this thread must have been desperate for a book. I'm about halfway through it and my brain hurts so bad, but now I need to know what happens to this poor little guy living in the sewers under Moscow after a total nuclear war + 40 years Metro 2033 gave me a serious bummer upon having finished reading it. So far I haven't found an English version of the sequel, but I need to know what happened afterwards. Those Dark Ones 
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torgeaux posted:I'm in the minority here,I know. Three tries because of the love here. Still a terrible, unbelievable job. Just not seeing how people get past it. Agreed. I've made it through both The Rook and Iron Druid, and neither were worth pushing myself through the bad writing for. (The Dresden Files has piles of awful writing too, but its payoffs are worth the pain) If we're gonna chuck urban fantasy recommendations around, the only two I'm sold on so far are Rivers of London and Child of Fire. drat shame the latter is never gonna get a fourth book
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coffeetable posted:Agreed. I've made it through both The Rook and Iron Druid, and neither were worth pushing myself through the bad writing for. Try kate griffin's books. The midnight mayor is a good, very different series.
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coffeetable posted:Agreed. I've made it through both The Rook and Iron Druid, and neither were worth pushing myself through the bad writing for. Yeah but the fact that Aaronovitch is already writing a 5th makes up for a lot.
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coffeetable posted:Agreed. I've made it through both The Rook and Iron Druid, and neither were worth pushing myself through the bad writing for. I recently binge-read Seanan McGuire's October Daye series. Once she hits her stride around book three and realizes that Toby is a lovely detective, the books turn pretty great. I love her characters and her worldbuilding. The first two books contain a lot of faffing about and the author being a little too pleased with her setting, but they're still entertaining and worth going through to get to the better stuff.
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I just finished the series as well, and love the world building. My main complaint is that all the favor's and prices Toby is supposed to pay for help never amount to much, and a tendency to reuse over reuse plot devices. The world is interesting enough that I'm willing to over look it.
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Cheers for the recommendations  Speaking of Aaronovitch, Broken Homes is out on Friday. Do we have enough readers to justify a thread for it?
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torgeaux posted:Easy. Magic? Suspend disbelief, same for mythical creatures. Amnesia, zero knowledge, but go to work, at an Intel type agency, with zero prep? Pretenfding to be someone known to lots of people? The whole premise is unworkable, and the author does a poor job of trying.
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Skellen posted:You should all read this, it's fantastic. I want to thank you for this recommendation. Really great read
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Verloc posted:The whole intelligence agency/amnesia plot seems really clunky and like a really hamfisted attempt to rip off the Bourne Identity at first. What I've come to realize is that The Rook has a healthy dose of Cabin in the Woods style genre homage / parody vis a vis Bourne style spy thrillers. I think The Rook sticks a little too close to spy thriller stuff and becomes indistinguishable from what it's riffing on sometimes, but the premise becomes a lot less jarring when you realize that it's supposed to be pretty absurd because the story is partly a parody of the Bourne Identity and it's ilk. Yeah I think taking The Rook to task for having a derivative premise is kinda missing the point, by about 1/3rd in it becomes pretty clearly farcical in tone, there's constant dumb and hilarious poo poo happening every chapter from that point on. The 'bad impostor' angle is directly addressed by one of the characters in a pretty funny manner anyway.
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If you're still caring about the plausibility by the time the duck shows up, you're reading the wrong drat book.
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Iacen posted:Metro 2033 gave me a serious bummer upon having finished reading it. So far I haven't found an English version of the sequel, but I need to know what happened afterwards. Those Dark Ones Just finished the first one. Now I feel compelled to read the 2nd one due to that massive cliffhanger.
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404GoonNotFound posted:If you're still caring about the plausibility by the time the duck shows up, you're reading the wrong drat book. If the book intends to mine absurdity, that could work, but it's not apparent that it is doing so in the first 100 pages. I could have used the intervention of a tongue in cheek sensibility...or a duck.
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My copy of Broken Homes has shipped! And it will get here from Amazon.co.uk sometime next week =(
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torgeaux posted:If the book intends to mine absurdity, that could work, but it's not apparent that it is doing so in the first 100 pages. I could have used the intervention of a tongue in cheek sensibility...or a duck.
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Hey so I just got back from SDCC. Here's a link to the Urban Fantasy panel Butcher was on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtNLbHh1Wd8 Also, I got to meet Jim (he grabbed one of those little Dresden Files Character booklets I give out at cons) and he was cosplaying Jack Burton from Big Trouble in Little China
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