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Matlock posted:RT mail app, at Surface launch, did support POP3. I know this, as I was able to properly set up a Roadrunner email address on one of the devices. You must have had a different Surface than everyone else on the planet.
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CharlesM posted:You must have had a different Surface than everyone else on the planet. http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/forum/surfwinrt-surfusing/windows-rt-surface-to-support-pop3/edcf3be5-53cc-4d24-b0d4-c379cd0bed95 Microsoft Surface supports POP, IMAP, and Exchange ActiveSync (EAS). RT. Not Pro.
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I was able to set up a POP3 account on my VivoTab while I had it. I had to plug a lot of settings in manually, but it definitely worked.
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Matlock posted:http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/forum/surfwinrt-surfusing/windows-rt-surface-to-support-pop3/edcf3be5-53cc-4d24-b0d4-c379cd0bed95 You didn't even read the whole post.
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Matlock posted:http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/forum/surfwinrt-surfusing/windows-rt-surface-to-support-pop3/edcf3be5-53cc-4d24-b0d4-c379cd0bed95  What the gently caress  No, that's cool. I don't actually want to read the question I clicked on the link to read or anything, just block it out completely with two separate boxes as soon as I open the site just to make sure.
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Matlock posted:RT mail app, at Surface launch, did support POP3. I know this, as I was able to properly set up a Roadrunner email address on one of the devices. It never supported it. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/pop-email-accounts
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Jul 11, 2013 14:47
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It was likely set up as an IMAP account, not POP.
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Jul 11, 2013 14:58
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Roadrunner does not support IMAP.
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Jul 12, 2013 04:05
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Hey man, keep on rocking the free world, I guess you managed to do what nobody else can do. I guess those 13 pages of people complaining about it that you linked to must be idiots, in addition to Microsoft who published that support article that beefnoodle linked to.
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Jul 12, 2013 06:43
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If the mail app did POP3 then I would've been able to set my Mom's Juno account up on it since it only supports POP3. But alas I could not, and she's never forgiven me.
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Jose Pointero posted:On the other side of the coin, I recently sold my Touchpads and got an XPS 10 through the discount Dell program at work, and I like it. The only thing I needed was the Cisco Anyconnect client, which is apparently in limbo. The network guy here said he can set it up directly using the VPN thing in Windows though.
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Microsoft just dropped the price of the Surface RT to $349 if anyone's not going the pro route.
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Is there any word on when Haswell tablets would start being announced?
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evilweasel posted:Is there any word on when Haswell tablets would start being announced? I hope you don't mean for RT, considering Haswell is x86 and RT wouldn't run on it. There are rumors of a new Surface RT using a Qualcomm chipset, though. Haswell machines have been slowly rolling out for the past few weeks and will probably continue to do so for a month or two.
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Protocol7 posted:I hope you don't mean for RT, considering Haswell is x86 and RT wouldn't run on it. There are rumors of a new Surface RT using a Qualcomm chipset, though. Haswell machines have been slowly rolling out for the past few weeks and will probably continue to do so for a month or two. No, but I believe most Surface Pro discussion was here despite the name so I figured I'd check.
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evilweasel posted:No, but I believe most Surface Pro discussion was here despite the name so I figured I'd check. Ah. Well, I haven't heard anything official from Microsoft about a Haswell Pro, and a quick Google search confirms it. My personal bet would be before the end of the year, but that's also ~5 months worth of time, which could be an issue if you need the machine soonish.
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My university has a deal with Microsoft that I can get a 32GB Surface RT with Touch Keyboard for $249. That seems like a great deal to me. What do you guys think?
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AgentHaiTo posted:My university has a deal with Microsoft that I can get a 32GB Surface RT with Touch Keyboard for $249. That seems like a great deal to me. What do you guys think? Is it your only computer, or something to augment what you have today? As an only machine, no way since you'll probably need a real Windows machine to run different programs from classes. As a second machine to just take to class for notes or whatever it's probably not too bad.
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Jul 22, 2013 21:09
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AgentHaiTo posted:My university has a deal with Microsoft that I can get a 32GB Surface RT with Touch Keyboard for $249. That seems like a great deal to me. What do you guys think? If you only want to use metro apps (and desktop office) it might be worthwhile.
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I already have a Thinkpad x120e with Windows 7 that I absolutely love. I was thinking of it as a secondary machine or for my wife so she'll stop stealing my laptop, and she only needs Skype, Office, and streaming video.
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AgentHaiTo posted:My university has a deal with Microsoft that I can get a 32GB Surface RT with Touch Keyboard for $249. That seems like a great deal to me. What do you guys think? It's a pretty good deal. Worst case you can sell that on ebay for cost/minor profit. (Seem to be running about $380 for that config on ebay right now). Get it, try it, sell it if you don't like it. Should be a good note taking platform. You might like it enough for that alone, the rest of the apps are only so-so.
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AgentHaiTo posted:I already have a Thinkpad x120e with Windows 7 that I absolutely love. Should handle that use case well. 8.1 might really improve the usability.
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AgentHaiTo posted:I was thinking of it as a secondary machine or for my wife so she'll stop stealing my laptop, and she only needs Skype, Office, and streaming video. My mother uses her RT for office, Skype, email, web and facebook, and she's delighted with it.
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Now with the surface @ $349, is there really a better 10 inch tablet? The surface has a full desktop web browser right? So aren't most of the "apps" redundant since I can just go to Hulu (and not pay for plus) or Amazon Prime directly through IE? E: Amazon is selling a Lenovo Ideapad Lynx tablet which has full Windows 8 and is also $349.
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The old Nexus 7 is Tegra 3 with an actually well-developed app market and on the cheap. For $350 get a real laptop or x86 tab like the Lynx you posted. It'll be slow but it's full Windows.
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Zarfol posted:Now with the surface @ $349, is there really a better 10 inch tablet? The surface has a full desktop web browser right? So aren't most of the "apps" redundant since I can just go to Hulu (and not pay for plus) or Amazon Prime directly through IE? iPad 3, iPad 4. The refurbs should run about $350. Please love the N7 and N10. The BN Nook HD+ is selling for $149 directly from BN right now. http://www.barnesandnoble.com/u/nook/379003208??cm_mmc=AFFILIATES-_-Linkshare-_-lw9MynSeamY-_-10:1&r=1 If you get the Nook the suggestion is to put a custom ROM on it to make it faster. The Nook HD+ has a significantly better screen for less than have the price. At $349 the Surface still is not a great value proposition unfortunately.
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Protocol7 posted:The old Nexus 7 is Tegra 3 with an actually well-developed app market and on the cheap. For $350 get a real laptop or x86 tab like the Lynx you posted. It'll be slow but it's full Windows. Atom stuff is roughly comparable performance wise to ARM RT tablets though, if I recall. Honestly Microsoft should really just woot these things and if they want to make smaller runs with more updated hardware, look at doing that. Nothing really wrong with the design/form factor from what I've seen, the Surface RT was just old tech when it was released, and it hasn't really aged super well.
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Yeah, Microsoft absolutely had the capital to sell the things off for $300 apiece when they were released, and they should have been bundled with the touch cover since that's apparently an integral part of the experience. Not subsidizing a product you want to successfully enter an already well-established market full of technological zealots is a mistake.
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Protocol7 posted:Yeah, Microsoft absolutely had the capital to sell the things off for $300 apiece when they were released, and they should have been bundled with the touch cover since that's apparently an integral part of the experience. Not subsidizing a product you want to successfully enter an already well-established market full of technological zealots is a mistake. I think if they had scrapped the Windows on ARM plans and launched an atom-powered Surface RT alongside the i3/5/7 powered Surface Pro they might have seen more adoption.
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Naffer posted:I think if they had scrapped the Windows on ARM plans and launched an atom-powered Surface RT alongside the i3/5/7 powered Surface Pro they might have seen more adoption. Although windows on ARM is a nice stick to keep Intel working on Atom.
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Or http://slashdot.org/topic/cloud/a-radical-plan-for-saving-microsofts-surface-rt/quote:But if Microsoft decides to continue with Surface, there’s one surefire way to restart its (metaphorical) heart: make it the ultimate bargain. The company’s already halfway there, having knocked $150 off the sticker price, but that’s not enough. Imagine Microsoft pricing the Surface at a mere pittance, say $50 or $75—even in this era of cheaper tablets, the devices would fly off the shelves so fast, the sales rate would make the iPad look like the Zune. But for $50? I don't think I'd even blink before clicking "Order".
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Ballmer: hey shareholders! Come watch us burn these huge piles of (your) money!
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If Microsoft were seriously interested in the RT ecosystem, I think it'd be very much to their advantage to price the Surface RT at absurdly cheap (like $150-200), just to increase adoption rates. That said I don't think they're seriously interested in the RT ecosystem.
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waffle posted:If Microsoft were seriously interested in the RT ecosystem, I think it'd be very much to their advantage to price the Surface RT at absurdly cheap (like $150-200), just to increase adoption rates. That would gently caress over any partners they have left.
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Don Lapre posted:That would gently caress over any partners they have left. Maybe they should just keep Windows RT to themselves then so they can price it dirt cheap and let their partners rumble with full Windows 8 tablets. It isn't like OEMs are making RT tablets.
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doomtuba posted:Maybe they should just keep Windows RT to themselves then so they can price it dirt cheap and let their partners rumble with full Windows 8 tablets. It isn't like OEMs are making RT tablets. That has the unfortunate side effect of all the consumers who just want cheap poo poo, as well as the tech illiterate buying your product. Partner products with full Windows 8 won't sell because people will be upset that RT can't do whatever they want, and think that all windows tablets must suck, because even the Microsoft one sucks. They're in a pretty no win situation right now.
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It's obvious at this point (and fairly obvious back when RT launched) that RT was a hedged bet by Microsoft that Intel wouldn't be able to move into the low power mobile space quickly. To put it bluntly, they lost that bet. ARM competitive low power x86 is a reality today and will only be stronger by the time next generation hardware will launch. There's no market for an ARM based neutered Windows variant with you could ship the same product with the full OS and hit the same power and price targets. There's not much point in any OEM pursuing a next gen RT product at this point. Microsoft will end up liquidating existing product and RT will fade away in the next product cycle. It will likely not officially be "killed", but I doubt you'll be able to buy a refreshed product based around it.
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bull3964 posted:It's obvious at this point (and fairly obvious back when RT launched) that RT was a hedged bet by Microsoft that Intel wouldn't be able to move into the low power mobile space quickly. The best Microsoft can hope for is that they'll be able to use some of the arm ported code on windows phone, since its clear mobile device s aren't moving to x86 anytime soon.
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Naffer posted:since its clear mobile device s aren't moving to x86 anytime soon. Don't be so sure. I'm not saying they are going to take over tomorrow or anything, but products exist and they are competitive. Motorola launched the Razr i last year on x86 and it's competitive across the board with the Razr M (the Krait based counterpart.) Samsung announced last month that the Galaxy Tab 3 10.1 will be using an Atom Z2560 (Clover Trail+ platform). The fact of the matter is, ARM is supply is constrained by fab capacity at this point and the next iteration of mobile growth is likely going to REQUIRE significant entry by Intel into the market to meet SoC demand. This is probably the reason why Samsung went with Intel for the Tab 3 10.1, it needs its own fab capacity pumping out Exynos chips for the international SGS4. Intel is a natural fit for Microsoft for at least the tablet space (the argument could be made that the phones should move there too in the future.) At any rate though, RT does't have a purpose anymore and will die from market attrition alone.
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Well, I went by the Microsoft Store today, and with my university discount, snagged a Surface RT 32GB for $214. I like it ok especially for that price, but I didn't get either of the keyboard covers for it, and I'm still on my x120e typing this post. My wife is using it now, and her being a new tablet user, she is not in love with the on-screen keyboard, but it's working fine for her to browse the web and Skype(which worked great, and was better quality than my x120e). She is also new to Windows 8 and is still learning how to navigate it. I may go back next week and get the Touch Cover for $49.99 if she decides she cannot learn the on-screen keyboard. EDIT: I should say that even with this great discount, the sales staff had no idea what I was talking about when I said my university had a bigger discount than the current sale of $349. They had to make a couple of calls before they would give me the $199 price. It made me think that not many people are taking advantage of this special sale at all and it started June 17th. I'm going to spread the word around campus and maybe they'll get more sales. AgentHaiTo fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Jul 25, 2013 |
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