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Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Ehh, I'm still going with fir.

In other news, I got the kraken mobile shapes back from the cutter today. I was questioning whether I'd like it with the opaque plastic (I was originally planning on using tinted clear colors, but the opaque was all the local shop had), but I think they turned out super cute and I'm really happy with them this way.

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Tyson Tomko
May 8, 2005

The Problem Solver.

Bad Munki posted:

In other news, I got the kraken mobile shapes back from the cutter today. I was questioning whether I'd like it with the opaque plastic (I was originally planning on using tinted clear colors, but the opaque was all the local shop had), but I think they turned out super cute and I'm really happy with them this way.

That is one excellent humpback whale! It makes me want to be a little kid again so I can have that over my crib.

(also after way too many unnecessary pic comparisons I'm pretty sure that's gotta be fir too)

Tyson Tomko fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Jul 25, 2013

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


I'll freely admit I cheated on most of the shapes: a quick google for "<animal> silhouette" and a few minutes in illustrator to turn the result into vector data made for some really nice pieces in spite of my lack of actual artistic talent. :)

Effingham
Aug 1, 2006

The bells of the Gion Temple echo the impermanence of all things...
I really appreciate all the advice and feedback I got when I was getting ready to order stuff to outfit my workshop. I thought I should let y'all know what the outcome was, so the following are the boxes sitting in my garage or in trucks wending their way to me now.

Cabinet Saw: SawStop Professional Cabinet Saw

Drill press: Grizzly G7944 -- 12-Speed Heavy-Duty 14" Floor Drill Press

Bandsaw: Grizzly G0555LANV -- 14" Bandsaw

Compound miter saw: DeWalt DW717

Router: Bosch 1617EVSPK (Plunge & Fixed Base)

Router table: Bosch RA1181

Mortiser: Jet 708580 JBM-5

Planer: DeWalt DW734

Jointer: Grizzly G0725 -- 6" x 28" Benchtop Jointer

Biscuit joiner: Makita PJ7000

Orbital sander: Bosch ROS20VSK

Jigsaw: Bosch JSH180B

Cordless brad nailer: DeWalt DC608K

Cordless Drill: Bosch DDB180-02

Circular saw: Bosch CCS180B

Benchtop sander: Rikon 50-150

And an array of files, jigs (for tenoning, dovetailing, pocket-screwing, etc.), rasps, hand planes, handsaws, hammers, mallets, squares, chisels, router bits, drill bits, measuring devices, marking gauges, and some nice Freud blades. (Any recs. for a good blade maker for the bandsaw?)

Can't wait to get them all out and assembled. Some are done, some are still awaiting being unpacked. Whee! Christmas in July!

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


That's awesome, but you'll be sick of everything shop-related by the time you finish unpacking. ;)

Effingham
Aug 1, 2006

The bells of the Gion Temple echo the impermanence of all things...
That's why I also ordered a zero-gravity recliner for the deck. :)

Do yourself a favor and get one. Oh. My. GOD. This is a wonderful thing.

Cmdr. Chompernuts
Jun 6, 2004

Tell me about your hand tools, Mr. Monopoly!

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Effingham posted:

That's why I also ordered a zero-gravity recliner for the deck. :)

Do yourself a favor and get one. Oh. My. GOD. This is a wonderful thing.

Ha. I received one last father's day. When it's not too hot out, that's my office. :D

Effingham
Aug 1, 2006

The bells of the Gion Temple echo the impermanence of all things...

Cmdr. Chompernuts posted:

Tell me about your hand tools, Mr. Monopoly!

LOL! Well, there is are a few nice Japanese saws for dovetailing, details, ripping, etc. (I like to have hand tools that can do the same work as the power tools), a good backsaw, a small crosscut saw, and a ripper.

I've only got two Stanley block planes so far -- I expect to get more as I get a better feel for hand work and what the planes want me to do (hey, I listen to the tools), but I did get a shoulder plane as well. I'm not really familiar (yet) with plane work, and I'm still reading from the small library of books on woodworking I ordered from Amazon, so I expect I'll be ordering more as I get a handle on them (heh).

I have a set of meh chisels to experiment with, as well as a couple of dedicated mortising chisels.

There's also a set of inexpensive carving chisels to see how I do with that.

Last, it's not on the list above, but I'm also thinking of getting a lathe (it's really the only "big tool" that I don't have in the mix yet).



Edit to add:

Oh, yeah. I'm also adding a window air conditioner to the garage. It gets warm in there. ;)


I should point out that my parents taught me early about "the $30 hammer" (you know the story -- a crap hammer for $10, a good one for $20; and if you buy the crap one, you've just spent THIRTY on your hammer, 'cause you're going to buy the $20 one in a few months when the $10 one fails), so I generally never buy the cheaper items. There are a few times, however, where I'm willing to buy less expensive things (like the chisel set above) as I expect to make some mistakes with them and I wouldn't want to ruin a good set off the bat.

Oh, yeah. Another thing.

NEVER try to hump a 200-pound band saw out of the box by yourself. This message is brought to you by the makers of Xanax.

Effingham fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Jul 25, 2013

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
drat Effingham, you went all out. I didn't realize Makita made a biscuit joiner.

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

wormil posted:

drat Effingham, you went all out. I didn't realize Makita made a biscuit joiner.

I just bought that biscuit joiner. It is amazing!

Tim Thomas
Feb 12, 2008
breakdancin the night away
My first thought at Effingham's list: "Man, for $525 for a mortiser and biscuit jointer, if I'm Mr. Monopoly, I buy neither and move to a Domino." I think I've lost it.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Effingham posted:


NEVER try to hump a 200-pound band saw out of the box by yourself. This message is brought to you by the makers of Xanax.

Why would anyone do that when you can just cut the box off at the base? Then you can muscle up and gently caress up your back.

Not an Anthem
Apr 28, 2003

I'm a fucking pain machine and if you even touch my fucking car I WILL FUCKING DESTROY YOU.

Spongebob Tampax posted:

Why would anyone do that when you can just cut the box off at the base? Then you can muscle up and gently caress up your back.

Humping machines (esp huge planers) onto and off of pallets is great if you are in your 20's. Not so much your 30's.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Don't have to tell me, I'm 30 and my back is shot already. Walk like an octogenarian for the first bit most mornings. Don't try to be he-man.

Meow Meow Meow
Nov 13, 2010
My girlfriend and I recently picked up a older solid maple table, we got it off kijiji for super cheap. It has a solid oak frame, with three huge sliding dovetails to expand it and put its three leaves in, pretty solid table. It's about 50 years old, and still in alright shape, the finish is a bit rough I figure I'll take most of the wax off and touch up the damaged parts.

Does anyone know how to get this stretcher back in, I don't know how without potentially breaking it? Any other refinishing tips?

Effingham
Aug 1, 2006

The bells of the Gion Temple echo the impermanence of all things...

Not an Anthem posted:

Humping machines (esp huge planers) onto and off of pallets is great if you are in your 20's. Not so much your 30's.

And it REALLY sucks if you're 52.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
That's what friends and beer are for. Or kids, make your kids do it for you. Or just bolt it to the floor and cut poo poo lying down. It sucks at any age, just find a younger lackey to do it for you.



Alright, I have a legitimate request/question. A friend of mine is thinking about getting some quail and wants some nesting boxes and a coop built. Anyone built one before?

Prathm
Nov 24, 2005

What tool-brand makes good chisels? Preferably one available in Europe/ Denmark.

Kirov
May 4, 2006

Prathm posted:

What tool-brand makes good chisels? Preferably one available in Europe/ Denmark.
Pretty much anything from normal hardware stores is junk. Try online for Kirchen/Two Cherries, Narex Premium or possibly the new Stanley sweethearts unless you happen to have a specialised woodworking store near you. Expensive but excellent brands are Lie Nielsen and Veritas. I bought some Narex premiums with oiled handles and so far they seem to be holding up. They are easy to sharpen on a waterstone and cheap too, under 12€ per chisel.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
Alternately I read great and terrible things about Two Cherries, do they have more than one line of tools?

Spikes32
Jul 25, 2013

Happy trees
So I've made my own settlers of catan set (but in ceramic, not wood cue gasp!). However to house the set I also want to take a cheap chest I bought at marshalls, glue wooden slats to the insides that have groves etched into them for the pieces to slide into. I own a fairly nice dremel (originally bought to slice through a lovely rusted on nut on a car), handheld electric wood saw (not great), and a very old hand sander i got at good will for $6. I've made one groove already with the dremel, but its not precise and quite a bit of work sanding everything down properly. What hopefully cheap piece of equipment should I actually be using? I live in an apartment and do work on the balcony, just as an fyi. Below are some photos of what I've already done. Thanks!

http://imgur.com/a/Xok7o

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


You want a router. With some clamps and a straight edge as a guide, you should be able to make perfectly straight, clean dados without any fuss. I don't know what your definition of cheap is, but you should be able to get one for like $80 or less new, or significantly less than that on craigslist. You don't need anything fancy, it sounds like you just want to get the job done. That plus a straight bit will give you what you want.

If that's too much (and assuming you don't want to do hand tools), does your dremel have a plunge jig? It's like a a little mostly-open cage that goes on the end of the dremel, provides a flat base that holds your dremel at a right angle to a wall as you drag it around and cut holes in your drywall, and usually has a screw you can tighten to set the depth. Because with some moderately careful depth-setting on that and a little zip bit, you could use your dremel as a crude router to cut those same dados. You'd have to make multiple passes, but if you put a guide on either side of the slot and then just go back and forth until you're butting up against the guide on each side, the end result will be a clean edge. The bottom of the cut may require some cleaning up.

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Spikes32 posted:

What hopefully cheap piece of equipment should I actually be using? I live in an apartment and do work on the balcony, just as an fyi. Below are some photos of what I've already done. Thanks!

http://imgur.com/a/Xok7o

You could do that with a $10 chisel and mallet, plus the sander you already have.

Might take a few to get them nice and accurate, but if you get a chisel the exact width of the grooves you want, that will make it a lot easier. Mark out where you want to cut out, then define the edges with your chisel with a light hit or two to start with, then start working it out. There are plenty of youtube clips that show you how to cut a mortise.

Or, you could get some sort of guide system for your dremel. Do you have the router attachment?

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


What's your price range, anyhow? Something like that, one of us might be willing to take the ten minutes to cut a few dividers for you on the cheap. If it's something I had scrap of on hand, I'd do it. :)

Spikes32
Jul 25, 2013

Happy trees
The router does seem like it would be perfect, but is a bit much for what will be to me a one use item. I already have the wood slates cut out, and I'm not opposed to spending up to $50, but I would prefer not to spend dozens of dollars on a piece of equipment I won't use again (since I don't really work in wood except for this part of the project). Buying a chisel and mallet seem reasonable to me, though I will need to get some clamps to keep it set when I work.

Edit: no plung jig on the dremel. If it would make this super simple I wouldn't be opposed to going out and getting one

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Don't discount the chisel, though. Handtools have a HUGE amount of value for people wanting to do stuff like this in tight spaces or where dust is an issue (power tools tend to produce dust, hand tools tend to produce chips. Guess which is hugely easier to clean up and doesn't get EVERYWHERE IMMEDIATELY.) The downside is they (generally) take longer and more practice, but the counter to that is you develop awesome skills.

Magnus Praeda
Jul 18, 2003
The largess in the land.
They're also a hell of a lot quieter so I can work on small projects in the living room at 3AM. Woodworking in an air conditioned space while drinking a beer and watching Archer can't be beat, really.

Tyson Tomko
May 8, 2005

The Problem Solver.

Spikes32 posted:

So I've made my own settlers of catan set (but in ceramic, not wood cue gasp!). However to house the set I also want to take a cheap chest I bought at marshalls, glue wooden slats to the insides that have groves etched into them for the pieces to slide into. I own a fairly nice dremel (originally bought to slice through a lovely rusted on nut on a car), handheld electric wood saw (not great), and a very old hand sander i got at good will for $6. I've made one groove already with the dremel, but its not precise and quite a bit of work sanding everything down properly. What hopefully cheap piece of equipment should I actually be using? I live in an apartment and do work on the balcony, just as an fyi. Below are some photos of what I've already done. Thanks!

http://imgur.com/a/Xok7o

That is a beautiful piece of work man I look forward to the finished deal. I'm glad you provided that second picture because the scale of the first one was loving with my brain and I thought it was the size of a 45 record or something.

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Spikes32 posted:

though I will need to get some clamps to keep it set when I work.
Also, you can make your own clamps fairly easily with threaded metal rods and wing nuts through an appropriately sized piece of flat wood.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

Spikes32 posted:

So I've made my own settlers of catan set (but in ceramic, not wood cue gasp!). However to house the set I also want to take a cheap chest I bought at marshalls, glue wooden slats to the insides that have groves etched into them for the pieces to slide into. I own a fairly nice dremel (originally bought to slice through a lovely rusted on nut on a car), handheld electric wood saw (not great), and a very old hand sander i got at good will for $6. I've made one groove already with the dremel, but its not precise and quite a bit of work sanding everything down properly. What hopefully cheap piece of equipment should I actually be using? I live in an apartment and do work on the balcony, just as an fyi. Below are some photos of what I've already done. Thanks!

http://imgur.com/a/Xok7o

If your electric saw is a circular saw, just use it to cut the sides of the dado and optionally make a cut or two through the waste then knock out the waste with a chisel. Here's a terrible video of a guy doing it freehand but you'll get the idea. I would recommend using a straightedge to guide the saw.

http://youtu.be/3xE6GSul7NI

Not an Anthem
Apr 28, 2003

I'm a fucking pain machine and if you even touch my fucking car I WILL FUCKING DESTROY YOU.

Prathm posted:

What tool-brand makes good chisels? Preferably one available in Europe/ Denmark.

Narex. Cheapest and best.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


rotor posted:

where is the dog chariot. where is it.

I have a friend welding up the chassis and I should get it back Sunday, blasted and primed. It's going to be strong enough that I myself could ride on it, which I'm sure will happen and make for amazing comedy.

Just thought you'd like to know.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
Started working on a drawer front I volunteered to make for a charity auction. There will be 24 drawer fronts total. Roy Underhill and a few other well known woodworkers will also be contributing. I believe Tommy Mac and C.Schwarz both agreed but I don't know if anyone followed up to remind them as this was set in motion many months ago. (or possibly I am misremembering and they were never asked, like I said, many months ago)

This is my progress today. Woods are walnut, quartersawn American holly, and padauk (I never learn). The walnut was 7/8" which I hand planed down to 3/4". The holly and padauk will make up a simple inlay, simple because this is my first time doing it. There will be a few other touches added as I go along. The dulcimer will take up the bottom 2/3rds of the drawer front. I would really like to make a copper pull but I've waited to nearly the last minute and may not have time.







rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Bad Munki posted:

I have a friend welding up the chassis and I should get it back Sunday, blasted and primed. It's going to be strong enough that I myself could ride on it, which I'm sure will happen and make for amazing comedy.

Just thought you'd like to know.

:fistpump:

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


rotor posted:

:fistpump:

Apparently I'm in the jewelry business now, because these two half inch plugs are what I'm giving the guy in exchange for the chariot chassis (which includes materials, labor, everything, so basically a straight-up trade.)

Bad Munki fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Aug 4, 2013

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
Got more work done on the drawer front. It's going slowly as this is my first inlay and I wanted to take my time. The sides and pull are just sitting in place. Just need to do some gluing and finishing. Do you guys think that pull will be okay just glued on? It's long grain to long grain and I don't expect the final cabinet is going to be used much. I think it will be okay but kinda want a 2nd opinion.

http://imgur.com/a/dCZtA






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Apr 8, 2004


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I'd put a dowel or two in there. Just to be safe.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

mds2 posted:

I'd put a dowel or two in there. Just to be safe.

That's a good idea but my concern is the pull is only 1/2" wide at the bottom and I'm afraid of blowing it out. I guess I could go buy some really small dowels. I also need to add something where the tuning pegs would be, small dowels might be just the thing.

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Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal
Has anyone any experience with or ideas for a workbench suitable for disabled people?

In particular I'm thinking of people who need to work from a chair (chiefly with hand tools). Obviously this causes difficulties at a standard workbench, both in reaching and in applying downward pressure. I've been thinking about ways to - in effect - rotate the bench 90 degrees, so that horizontal pressure can be used, but it occurred to me that I'm probably trying to reinvent the wheel: someone must have designed something like this already.

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