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Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

My boss told me developing the oilsands is the the only way to create jobs and ensure prosperity. It must be true because he has more money than me.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 00:57

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 12:02

Paper Mac: Mar 2, 2007; lives in a paper shack

vyelkin posted:

It totally is. It's on the NatPo video player, not a Youtube:

Thanks, Opera is acting up.

Edit: Looks like Yatim was returning to the location he was standing a few seconds prior. I don't think there's any way that shooting is defensible.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 01:24

Paper Jam Dipper: Jul 14, 2007; by XyloJW

treble posted:

The Star has apparently identified the shooter according to police sources:

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2013/07/30/sammy_yatim_officer_in_shooting_identified.html

Apparently he was on the provincial "sunshine list" of public employees who earned over $100k last year.

He's so devastated. It was just so difficult for him to pull the trigger. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 01:25

BattleMaster: Aug 14, 2000

What's really damning here, aside from the multiple videos, is that out of all the cops present, out of all the bullets fired, the killing was the doing of just one guy. No one else present seemed to think that bullets were warranted.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 01:36

PittTheElder: Feb 13, 2012; Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Paper Jam Dipper posted:

He's so devastated. It was just so difficult for him to pull the trigger. And again. And again. And again. And then pause for a long time. And then again. And again. And again. And again. And again.

FTFY.

BattleMaster posted:

What's really damning here, aside from the multiple videos, is that out of all the cops present, out of all the bullets fired, the killing was the doing of just one guy. No one else present seemed to think that bullets were warranted.

Yeah, that's what's really odd.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 01:37

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Paper Jam Dipper posted:

He's so devastated. It was just so difficult for him to pull the trigger. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again.

Another tragic victim of the vicious attacks of Canada's hug-a-thug liberal media.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 01:39

Paper Mac: Mar 2, 2007; lives in a paper shack

It's also clear from the security video, if I'm understanding correctly when shots were fired, that Yatim wasn't moving at all after the first three shots dropped him. The other officers seem surprised and scatter when shooting resumes.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 01:48

Paper Jam Dipper: Jul 14, 2007; by XyloJW

Paper Mac posted:

It's also clear from the security video, if I'm understanding correctly when shots were fired, that Yatim wasn't moving at all after the first three shots dropped him. The other officers seem surprised and scatter when shooting resumes.

I saw a description of the security tape state that Yatim's right leg "moves around a little bit" which is of course a perfect reason to fire six more shots.

What still bothers me is that only one officer has been suspended when every officer there was present when the decision was made to TASER YATIM AFTER HE HAD NINE BULLETS FIRED AT HIM.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 02:11

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

And now the only married news team in Canada...

# ? Jul 31, 2013 03:18

JawKnee: Mar 24, 2007; You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

THC posted:

And now the only married news team in Canada...

Maybe the only ones in Canada

# ? Jul 31, 2013 04:39

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Just watched the Yatim video. Jesus Christ, I think you got him Constable :stare:

# ? Jul 31, 2013 07:55

Paper Jam Dipper: Jul 14, 2007; by XyloJW

Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD
Loud bang heard in Cote St Luc where standoff continues with armed man barricaded in his house since about noon yesterday #CJAD #standoff

Police issue order twice via loud horn to barricaded man to surrender, the second followed by a loud bang

"Drop your gun, come out, make sure we see you" police to barricaded man in

"No way we're going to let you go on like this, you need to surrender right now." police to barricaded man in #cotestluc #CJAD #standoff

"We're taking charge now, come out slowly through the front door." police to barricaded man in #cotestluc #CJAD #standoff

Several big bangs heard #cotestluc #CJAD #standoff

Another message to surrender followed by loud bangs #CJAD #standoff #cotestluc

# ? Jul 31, 2013 11:05

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

The Ottawa Citizen reports that it's a 74-year-old man with dementia and a lot of firearms. He threatened a hydro employee when the guy came to change the meter, shot at police and is now refusing (or unable) to communicate.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 13:12

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

Pfft sounds like Cote St. Luc could use a little Toronto Justice to get this thing wrapped up by lunch.

e: A bit of quick internet detective-ry last night told me that Const. James Fucillo (Sammy Yatim shooter) is an ex-Montrealais.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 13:29

Odddzy: Oct 10, 2007; Once shot a man in Reno.

Makes sense, we've got rotten luck with competent cops in Montreal.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 14:34

Dallan Invictus: Oct 11, 2007; The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes, look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.

Well, on the other hand they managed to wrap this incident up without any additional murder (or tear-gassing a senile 74-year old, which I'm SURE would have ended well.)

# ? Jul 31, 2013 15:30

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

Odddzy posted:

Makes sense, we've got rotten luck with competent cops in Montreal.

You don't have to tell me, I was close enough to hear the gunshots when Martin Suazo was murdered.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2001/03/02/suazo010302.html

quote:

Five years after his son was fatally shot while on his knees waiting to be handcuffed for shoplifting, Alessandro Suazo can't believe that a Montreal police officer has only been suspended without pay for 45 days.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 15:36

Sir Teabag: Oct 26, 2007

Not the same caliber as the shooting/standoff, but I didn't see this posted in the last few pages.

Ottawa Citizen forces Carleton University to hand over students marks. Not sure if this is actually an issue, but it bothers me. Their reasoning seems faulty, and the don't provide information as to why they wanted to marks in the article. It comes out later, in the comment section (from the author) that he wants to check for "grade inflation".

In the article they claim that since Carleton is "publicly funded" that Ontario Taxpayers have the right to know how students are doing. And that employers need to know if a degree from one school is worth more than that of another. That ignores the fact that students pay tuition, and in my experience - employers don't give a gently caress how you did in first year calculus, or art history. Grades are only used to get funding from agencies, or to apply for more schooling. Both of those things are regulated by the academic industry themselves, and therefore it's in the schools interests to make sure that a mark from one school is roughly par with marks from another.

I can't help but feel they just want this information so they can say "look at gen Y! They have it so easy! back in my day we had to work for our marks!",etc., etc.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 15:54

HackensackBackpack: Aug 20, 2007; Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

It's a good thing those lazy Gen-Y kids won't have any jobs to go to when they graduate. That'll build some character!

# ? Jul 31, 2013 16:47

sbaldrick: Jul 19, 2006; Driven by Hate

Sir Teabag posted:

Not the same caliber as the shooting/standoff, but I didn't see this posted in the last few pages.

Ottawa Citizen forces Carleton University to hand over students marks. Not sure if this is actually an issue, but it bothers me. Their reasoning seems faulty, and the don't provide information as to why they wanted to marks in the article. It comes out later, in the comment section (from the author) that he wants to check for "grade inflation".

In the article they claim that since Carleton is "publicly funded" that Ontario Taxpayers have the right to know how students are doing. And that employers need to know if a degree from one school is worth more than that of another. That ignores the fact that students pay tuition, and in my experience - employers don't give a gently caress how you did in first year calculus, or art history. Grades are only used to get funding from agencies, or to apply for more schooling. Both of those things are regulated by the academic industry themselves, and therefore it's in the schools interests to make sure that a mark from one school is roughly par with marks from another.

I can't help but feel they just want this information so they can say "look at gen Y! They have it so easy! back in my day we had to work for our marks!",etc., etc.

that almost made me happy that they where going to be forced to give me my transcript without paying 75 bucks.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 16:52

Pinterest Mom: Jun 9, 2009

I think [url=]there[/url] will be the final polls for the Ontario byelections tomorrow, from Campaign Research.

Nothing terribly surprising. Close races in Etobicoke and London (with Al Gretzky potentially serving as spoiler :laffo:

), potential for an upset in Scarborough, PCs ahead in Ottawa and NDP running away with Windsor.

Man, imagine Pupatello winning the leadership and having to fight for her seat in Windsor :allears:

# ? Jul 31, 2013 16:52

Precambrian Video Games: Aug 19, 2002

Please tell me that this means the end of Giambrone's miraculous comeback from being a tremendous shithead.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 17:02

Paper Jam Dipper: Jul 14, 2007; by XyloJW

I'll be working the Windsor Tecumseh election for the Liberals. I enjoy free sandwiches.

There's a Libertarian candidate in Windsor Tecumseh. No I'm serious.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 17:03

Pinterest Mom: Jun 9, 2009

eXXon posted:

Please tell me that this means the end of Giambrone's miraculous comeback from being a tremendous shithead.

He'll just end up running somewhere like Trinity�Spadina federally or provincially next year, and he'll win that time.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 17:05

Blade_of_tyshalle: Jul 12, 2009; If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

I literally only just yesterday got my first flyer from Bronwyn Funiciello. I had no idea she's VP of the OCDSB, not that it'll make a difference at this point in anyone's vote.

Still haven't ever seen anything from Matt Young or the Green Party Also-Ran, other than signs everywhere.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 17:26

bunnyofdoom: Mar 29, 2008; [b]BUNNIES ARE CUTE BUT DEADLY/b]

Paper Jam Dipper posted:

I'll be working the Windsor Tecumseh election for the Liberals. I enjoy free sandwiches.

There's a Libertarian candidate in Windsor Tecumseh. No I'm serious.

Same on both for Ottawa South.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 17:32

Blade_of_tyshalle: Jul 12, 2009; If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

bunnyofdoom posted:

Same on both for Ottawa South.

There's a guy running for the Pauper Party. I guess it's John Turmel, the batshit crazypants with the dubious honour of having run in the most elections ever?

His party's platform is to have the police stop getting involved with drugs, gambling, and sex! Awesome!

And also the elimination of any and all social aid programs. gently caress you, welfare recipients.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 17:39

Team THEOLOGY: Nov 27, 2008

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

I literally only just yesterday got my first flyer from Bronwyn Funiciello. I had no idea she's VP of the OCDSB, not that it'll make a difference at this point in anyone's vote.

Still haven't ever seen anything from Matt Young or the Green Party Also-Ran, other than signs everywhere.

Woah crazy, we have lit dropped most of the riding at least once with most bell weather and leaning places twice. What poll/where are you located?

Edit also: Listen to 580CFRA today at around 2 on Rob Snow, prepare for another bunker buster.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 17:51

bunnyofdoom: Mar 29, 2008; [b]BUNNIES ARE CUTE BUT DEADLY/b]

Team THEOLOGY posted:

Woah crazy, we have lit dropped most of the riding at least once with most bell weather and leaning places twice. What poll/where are you located?

Edit also: Listen to 580CFRA today at around 2 on Rob Snow, prepare for another bunker buster.

Wait, I thought Jon was the bastard, and Robb was the true king in the north.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 17:57

Kafka Esq.: Jan 1, 2005; "If you ever even think about calling me anything but 'The Crab' I will go so fucking crab on your ass you won't even see what crab'd your crab" -The Crab(TM)

Team THEOLOGY posted:

What poll/where are you located?

Don't do it man, it's a trap

# ? Jul 31, 2013 18:02

bunnyofdoom: Mar 29, 2008; [b]BUNNIES ARE CUTE BUT DEADLY/b]

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

There's a guy running for the Pauper Party. I guess it's John Turmel, the batshit crazypants with the dubious honour of having run in the most elections ever?

His party's platform is to have the police stop getting involved with drugs, gambling, and sex! Awesome!

And also the elimination of any and all social aid programs. gently caress you, welfare recipients.

You do realize this led me to look up fringe parties on wikipedia right?

Of note,one of the Christain Heritage Party's stated goals?
"having non-violent criminals pay restitution out of jail,"

BRING BACK WEREGILD!

# ? Jul 31, 2013 18:04

Pinterest Mom: Jun 9, 2009

Team THEOLOGY posted:

What poll/where are you located?

Campaign tunnel vision is amazing. "What poll are you in" is not a question anyone knows the answer to.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 18:09

Blade_of_tyshalle: Jul 12, 2009; If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Kafka Esq. posted:

Don't do it man, it's a trap

...I don't know if I can trust you, Mr. Levant.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 18:13

JohnnyCanuck: May 28, 2004; Strong And/Or Free

Team THEOLOGY posted:

Edit also: Listen to 580CFRA today at around 2 on Rob Snow, prepare for another bunker buster.

Ugh, do I have to? 580 makes my blood boil, even when it's not Lowell Green on.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 18:20

Sir Teabag: Oct 26, 2007

JohnnyCanuck posted:

Ugh, do I have to? 580 makes my blood boil, even when it's not Lowell Green on.

This. Can we get him convicted of some sort of hate crime against my sanity?

# ? Jul 31, 2013 18:34

Team THEOLOGY: Nov 27, 2008

Pinterest Mom posted:

Campaign tunnel vision is amazing. "What poll are you in" is not a question anyone knows the answer to.

Haha that is so true. Sorry. Been a long few weeks. Honestly I was just interested in the general area to see if we missed it, or it was intentional.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 18:45

Blade_of_tyshalle: Jul 12, 2009; If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Elmvale Acres, if it helps. Maybe you guys hit here, but I don't remember getting anything. There are tons of signs all over the place, though.

There's a duplex nearby with a Matt Young on one side and a John Fraser on the other. I'm sure they're the best of neighbours.

# ? Jul 31, 2013 18:51

Helsing: Aug 23, 2003; DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU JOE BIDEN

Uh oh tyshalle. The eye of Mordor is on you now. I hope you're looking forward to receiving notice from Elections Ontario that the location of your polling station was changed at the last minute!

# ? Jul 31, 2013 18:55

Blade_of_tyshalle: Jul 12, 2009; If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

I voted in an advance poll. I take democracy seriously and also enjoy standing in lines where I'm the youngest person by about four decades. :smug:

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 12:02

JohnnyCanuck: May 28, 2004; Strong And/Or Free

So what was this "Bunker Buster" dropped on the Liberals in Ottawa South?

# ? Jul 31, 2013 19:12

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