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WolfensteinBag
Aug 7, 2003

So it was all your work?

a life less posted:

This girl posts her progress with her (loving amazingly gorgeously beautiful) puppy on another forum I frequent. Love her. The videos she posts show a really amazing progression as the pup matures. I expect you do be doing this with your dog ASAP.

http://youtu.be/6HLsCruyjHM

E: Because I'm smitten.



I finally got to a computer to watch this, that music choice is hilarious, haha! She IS a really pretty girl! I love how fast she scoots her rear end around on the turns.

It was really interesting watching the showline dogs work yesterday. They were all doing really well, but you could see they were antsy. Then this BEAUTIFUL sable working-line girl comes out, and she's rock solid, all business, agile, quick as poo poo... AND I guess even though the lady had her for awhile and did obedience, she only just recently started her in protection. I know the club doesn't discriminate, and they were mostly showline dogs there, but drat could you see a difference in the work ethic!

OneOverZero posted:

So glad to see this because I grew up with a GSD / Border Collie...

What cute dogs! :3: Thanks for sharing!

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WolfensteinBag
Aug 7, 2003

So it was all your work?

Triangulum posted:

I know I've mentioned a few times how much training recall with a ball has changed Vecna's compliance and how awesome the book Schutzhund: Theory and Training Methods is

I went back to look this up, do you have any more reading suggestions now that you're really involved in the sport? As good as you say the book is, I'm hesitant on anything over 20 years old. :shobon: (Although, I'll probably still pick it up!)

Triangulum
Oct 3, 2007

by Lowtax
Not really, sorry. I honestly haven't been reading much IPO stuff outside of seminars notes and online classes. Have you looked at the Fenzi Dog Sport Academy at all? They have a School of IPO that looks pretty cool. One of the ladies I train with just finished the IPO Fundamentals 1 class and got a lot out of it. I've been debating whether to take the Tracking 1 class or hold off for another month and do the Skill Building for Tracking class. Not sure I wanna spend 4 weeks on scent pads AGAIN haha.

But yeah, I wouldn't recommend that book for learning IPO since the rule change in 2011 but it does have a lot of useful obedience techniques. If you do end up running across a more recent book that you like please post it here. I did just pick up
Top Working Dogs - A Schutzhund Training Manual
but it hasn't come in the mail yet.

a life less posted:

This girl posts her progress with her (loving amazingly gorgeously beautiful) puppy on another forum I frequent. Love her. The videos she posts show a really amazing progression as the pup matures. I expect you do be doing this with your dog ASAP.

http://youtu.be/6HLsCruyjHM

E: Because I'm smitten.



I swear I recognize this dog/handler team from another forum. Regardless that dog is really lovely :3: Any info on it's breeding?

a life less
Jul 12, 2009

We are healthy only to the extent that our ideas are humane.

Triangulum posted:

I swear I recognize this dog/handler team from another forum. Regardless that dog is really lovely :3: Any info on it's breeding?

Dog's name is VP Carma vom Oz Haus. Not being a GSD person, I have no other info for you. I would steal that puppy in a second though. Looks amazing. Want her.

Instant Jellyfish
Jul 3, 2007

Actually not a fish.



a life less posted:

Dog's name is VP Carma vom Oz Haus. Not being a GSD person, I have no other info for you. I would steal that puppy in a second though. Looks amazing. Want her.

Here you go. I love that fuzzy little GSD too :3: (I want Onyx the mal more though, I may be insane)

a life less
Jul 12, 2009

We are healthy only to the extent that our ideas are humane.

Instant Jellyfish posted:

Here you go. I love that fuzzy little GSD too :3: (I want Onyx the mal more though, I may be insane)

Oh my god. Onyx is the prettiest loving Mal I've ever seen. :swoon:

Triangulum
Oct 3, 2007

by Lowtax
Well don't just tease us, post a pic already

a life less
Jul 12, 2009

We are healthy only to the extent that our ideas are humane.



Triangulum
Oct 3, 2007

by Lowtax
Holy poo poo she's lovely :swoon: Look at that little raptor face

Siochain
May 24, 2005

"can they get rid of any humans who are fans of shitheads like Kanye West, 50 Cent, or any other piece of crap "artist" who thinks they're all that?

And also get rid of anyone who has posted retarded shit on the internet."


Ohhhhh man those are amazing dogs. Jesus.
I wants :(

adventure in the sandbox
Nov 24, 2005



Things change



Ok Malamutes are friggin' awesome. This is one of the most beautiful dogs I have seen.

Skizzles
Feb 21, 2009

Live, Laugh, Love,
Poop in a box.
You mean Malinois...? :cheeky:

adventure in the sandbox
Nov 24, 2005



Things change


Ahahaha yes I do! How did I type Malamute?? I am not distracted, not looking at pictures of them or anything.. :)

ETA: I also like Malamutes and would like one one day :3:

DenialTwist
Sep 18, 2008
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.


This dog is the best dog :3:

Also, I've seen that GSD ALL posted in the German shepherd forms before so maybe you recognize her from there? She is super adorable and her trainer/owner seems pretty awesome.

Stregone
Sep 1, 2006
Had a pretty good practice session at the park with Shelby today. Looks like she got all of her fight anxiety out of her system. She was a mess at the last class, getting nervous and jumping up on me during the runs. Today she was all business, only getting distracted by a stupid kid who desperately wanted to say hi even though shelby is lunging and growling at him. I swear it was exactly like the off leash dogs we come across, the kid was running up to us, with the father ineffectually yelling his name. Luckily he stopped short and begrudgingly went back to the playground. But the exact same thing happened twice again each time he saw us.

She seems to have finally picked up her search command. Which helps alot keeping her focused. After she finds a hide I can say "Where is it?!" and she spins around and pokes the hide again :3:

WolfensteinBag
Aug 7, 2003

So it was all your work?

Stregone posted:

She seems to have finally picked up her search command. Which helps alot keeping her focused. After she finds a hide I can say "Where is it?!" and she spins around and pokes the hide again :3:

That is just too cute. :3:

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth


Ours "Karraine Good Golly". AKA "Molly"
Got her as a guard dog for the property (farm). First night we brought her home as a pup she was the sweetest little thing. Loved nuzzling her nose between your legs, and always did. Parents insistent on toughening her up. She was supposed to be a ' tough Outside dog'.She was in a kennel on the verandah first night and a huge lightning storm blew through. Couldn't handle listening to her whining and crying, it was heartbreaking. Brought her into my room and took care of her and that was the end of it. She was mine from then on. Followed me everywhere. Never left my side. I used to sleep with my bedroom door open and she'd come in every morning to wake me up, slept on my bed when she was younger but started taking to just sleeping on the floor next to my bed. Dunno why. Used to knock on the door to be let in or out, as do all our dogs but we don't mind, it's not lke they can operate a door handle. They aren't a pain in the rear end at all. Gave her Basic training, such a well behaved dog. Beautiful girl. Followed by a doberman and a fox terrier, she was the head dog. Even the other dogs respected her, didnt hound her too much like puppies do. When she started getting sick in her old age the others were almost nursing her, always licking her and whatnot. We never trained her to attack or be aggressive, never even so much as to ever wear a collar. Never on a leash. Could take her out in public and she'd just stay by your side and never cause grief. Always free running, never strayed from the property, she got out a bit to beaches and whatnot when parents went out horseriding but she knew the boundaries and never stepped over them. Like I'd walk out to get the mail or the garbage bins and she'd stop at the gate and just watch me and wait for me to come back over the invisible line.. and she never showed any aggression towards anything. But one night I was having a party and some random car shows up and starts letting off fireworks in my driveway, was a bit worried and grabbed a pitchfork (lol) and start thinking im gonna have to do some nasty stuff, she perks up, puffs out her chest, bares teeth and starts snarling and barking by my side, must have sensed whatever I did. Car left and she goes back to placid, quiet well behaved girl.

She killed a platypus when she was really young and my stepdad beat her over the head with it and she hid under my room (outside bungalow thing) for the entire day sulking and whining, she never even so much as looked at a platypus sideways after that. Never harmed anything ever again. I used to play pretty rough with her, she'd chew my arm and I'd often get some mad bite marks and deep cuts but I didn't mind, she never picked up a bad habit and never exercised that kind of roughplay on anyone else, she just loved a bit of rough & tumble, was super gentle with children & small dogs, played well with others, was extremely well socialised, worked well with horses, cows, chickens etc... never attacked or scared or intimidated them, always hung to the back in a shepherd trait. We taught her the basics like sit, lie down, heel, stay etc but she just had the most beautiful personality and placid nature and was just always there being quiet and well behaved. Curious as to what you were up to.
I've grown up with 3 german shepherds, I've never felt more attached to any animal.

My stepdad is a vet and he put her down. Even then she didn't make a fuss when he gave her the needle. She just lay down. I cooked her up a big tbone steak beforehand and she even struggled to eat that the poor thing was so sick. My stepdad used to take her into his clinic and she often donated blood if he needed it for clients dogs etc. She never made a fuss. Even he cried like a baby, he said he'd always wanted a shepherd and couldn't have asked for a better dog. We buried her next to the chook shed so she could watch over them, on a hill with a good view of the property. Planted a eucalyptus tree on top of her as well as a grevillia (shrub) with the hybrid name 'Molly'. Was very fitting. One of the hardest loving things I've ever had to do. Will miss her dearly.

Goddamn I'm even welling up with tears writing this. I loving loved that dog. She wasn't a pet she was a part of the family.

These were some pics I took of her in her last few days. I flew interstate to be home for it. She had a tumour or something in her stomach. Stepdad didn't want to aubtopsy because what purpose would that serve, but he was sure there was something seriously wrong with her gut. She lived a long & very happy 11 years.











She'd lost a tonne of weight, was looking really small and sickly but she was still lovely, still wanted to know what you were doing, still perked up and made an effort to go for a walk. we took her to the beach and around the property and she had a go, but she was getting to the end. making her suffer any longer was just cruel.

If I ever get land or a good sized property I'll get another german shepherd, but I know they need room to run so I wouldn't punish one by making it live in a tiny environment. They are top of the list though, most amazing beautiful dogs of all. Our doberman is funny but she's pretty dumb & clumsy, but equally as nice and sweet and friendly. Very quiet, never barks but when she does you know about it. When mum got the fox terrier puppy the doberman kind of adopted it as her own and if it was getting out of line the doberman would hold her down until she stopped misbehaving, and if the little one was annoying Molly the doberman would grab her and drag her away and make her leave her alone. Doberman has her tail too, and goddamn that thing can do some damage if she's in a good mood.



I met a woman one day who had a really small GSD, and she was telling me she used to have one that was loving enormous, bred from attack dog stock, can't remember the name of the breed... it was something german? Like super seized german shepherds. She said she couldnt keep it because it was just so drat protective. Any ideas on what they could be called?

Sludge Tank fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Aug 4, 2013

pomme
May 8, 2013

Sludge Tank posted:




I met a woman one day who had a really small GSD, and she was telling me she used to have one that was loving enormous, bred from attack dog stock, can't remember the name of the breed... it was something german? Like super seized german shepherds. She said she couldnt keep it because it was just so drat protective. Any ideas on what they could be called?

I'm so sorry about your loss. I'm dreading the day I go through it. Take comfort in the fact you gave Molly a good life.
On the quoted, I've heard king shepherds are larger than most. Is that what you're thinking of?

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth
Yeah it was a week ago and I'm still heartbroken/weepy/sulking

I can't remember, she said it was some long german name. Said it weighed around 45kg (about 100bs) and was just all dog. Sounds pretty badass to me.


e: looking up king shepherds... now THAT'S a dog I could fall in love with. Amazing. I'd almost daresay that would be the kind of dog this lady was talking about.

edit2: on the topic of ear tattoos, my stepdad being a vet would tattoo most animals he worked on the inside of their ears. His veterinary mates all had their own unique tattoo on the ear so they knew who had worked on it before and get in touch with them to ask medical history of the animals etc.

E3: I'm just gonna dump my photos and be done with it. Some of these are really old.








After our Pomeranian passed away (she was the oldest) mum wanted to get another small dog, so she got a miniature dachsund. The breeder was a prick and sent this poor little thing on a 3 hour flight in a cage with no bedding, when it got to us it was half dead. Unfortunately it didn't last too long, we had it for a couple of weeks. Molly thought it was an interesting thing.


edit: on the topic of King Shepherds... I'm absolutely in love! Am I allowed to post pictures of them that aren't mine? Please feel free to delete them if I'm not..
but I mean just look at some of these specimens Such handsome creatures. Frig.
140lbs of pure dog!


















Also, this guy has an absolutely SPECTACULAR looking KS

'Leo'

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kdc123/sets/72157629225187545/with/6839000153/ (can't link the photos directly)

Sludge Tank fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Aug 4, 2013

Triangulum
Oct 3, 2007

by Lowtax
King Shepherds are gross pointless mutts, sorry.

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth
Why?

notsowelp
Oct 12, 2012

Though she is small, she is fierce.
Frankly, show shepherds are gross and pointless too: at least 'King Shepherds' don't appear to be literally crippled by their conformation - plus, their community seems to be super big on health testing too. If someone is looking for a pet GSD, where would you suggest they go? Frogdog show lines? Super hardcore working lines? Being snooty at people for being drawn to a GSD type dog that isn't falling apart in the rear and/or too intense and drivey to fit comfortably into their home is dumb and counterproductive. The breed is a mess, I'd far rather a novice go to a ~~byb~~ breeding for sane conformation and doing health tests than get some wobbly-hocked no-butt travesty from a show kennel.

Triangulum
Oct 3, 2007

by Lowtax
They're just Shiloh Shepherds (Malamute x German Shepherd) bred with Great Pyrenees for literally no reason besides "GSDs should be bigger, fluffier, and lazier." They're pretty much designer dogs for people who think GSDs are pretty.

notsowelp posted:

Frankly, show shepherds are gross and pointless too: at least 'King Shepherds' don't appear to be literally crippled by their conformation - plus, their community seems to be super big on health testing too. If someone is looking for a pet GSD, where would you suggest they go? Frogdog show lines? Super hardcore working lines? Being snooty at people for being drawn to a GSD type dog that isn't falling apart in the rear and/or too intense and drivey to fit comfortably into their home is dumb and counterproductive. The breed is a mess, I'd far rather a novice go to a ~~byb~~ breeding for sane conformation and doing health tests than get some wobbly-hocked no-butt travesty from a show kennel.

I'd suggest they go to the breeders who do a mix of working and good showlines and produce structurally sound but lower drive dogs. There is actually something in between "horrible frogdog", "literally a police dog", and "GSD version of a labradoodle" dude.

notsowelp
Oct 12, 2012

Though she is small, she is fierce.

Triangulum posted:

They're just Shiloh Shepherds (Malamute x German Shepherd) bred with Great Pyrenees for literally no reason besides "GSDs should be bigger, fluffier, and lazier." They're pretty much designer dogs for people who think GSDs are pretty.


I'd suggest they go to the breeders who do a mix of working and good showlines and produce structurally sound but lower drive dogs. There is actually something in between "horrible frogdog", "literally a police dog", and "GSD version of a labradoodle" dude.

Sure but shaming people about :byodame: GROSS POINTLESS MUTTS for happening to express a preference for saner looking gsds (or gsd types) is pretty dumb considering the state of the breed. Something I notice a lot when people who arent dogladies look at ~shiloh shepherds~, ~king shepherds~ and such is that they'll start talking about how *that's* what the gsds they remember used to look like, and oh man wouldn't it be nice to have a real old-fashioned GSD that actually looks like a dog. Launching into a :smug: patronising sperglord lecture about labradoodles at that point is completely counterproductive if your goal is actually educating people where to look in a breed which is so bewilderingly and (especially for a newcomer) intimidatingly atomised.

Don't be a dick to people who are impressed by the look of king shepherds and shiloh shepherds; point them in the direction of breeders you consider reputable who are producing similar dogs.

Skizzles
Feb 21, 2009

Live, Laugh, Love,
Poop in a box.
I love big dogs, and I love GSDs. But I am tired of people breeding dogs primarily for appearance. If they're health testing and aiming for sound confirmation and temperament, then cool, definitely a million times better than a show frogdog. But I'm still tired of the "BIGGER IS BETTER!" mentality.

Also I'm a complete hypocrite because I would be a filthy lying whore if I said looks weren't going to be an important factor in choosing my next dog. :downs: I want a gorgeous dog so sue me. But if I were to come across an ugly dog that had everything else I wanted, then so be it.

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth
I like big dogs. Our gsd molly was pretty small. But super fit. I really dont get the dropped rear end showdog look and have heard that breeding that look is really bad for the dogs. Im not a showperson or anything of the sort just a country bumpkin who likes big dogs and loves shepherds and personally find that king shepherd really cool. I love the old wartime big shepherd look and i mean if they had to do some crossbreeding to get massive dogs well what's done is done. If i could find a breeder locally that bred big gsd's i'd definitely check them out. I dont know anything about gsd breeders especially here in aus and our girl was from a kennel obviously producing typically smaller shepherds. Sorry if my like of king shepherds was offensive i was just genuinely impressed. Id love to have a dog that i could wrestle with and then use as a couch. I think if those KS's were any bigger theyd just start to look weird though. One breeder is was looking at in Iowa i think says they have really strict health checks on their breeding dogs and always only breed the healthiest and fittest. Hips xrayed And whatnot. Dont think i'd settle for anything less knowing how prone they could be to prpblems

Didnt mean to put people against each other.

Sludge Tank fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Aug 5, 2013

Skizzles
Feb 21, 2009

Live, Laugh, Love,
Poop in a box.
Just make absolutely sure they have healthy hips. I knew someone with an oversized GSD (he was something like 100lbs), but he had an AWFUL rear. He looked so wobbly and unstable. Strict health and temperament testing are a must, especially if you're going for something like that.

Triangulum
Oct 3, 2007

by Lowtax
Kings and Shilohs don't have anything to do with old fashioned/wartime GSDs whatsoever, regardless of what the breeders say. The actual "old-style" dogs were fairly small, lighter boned, and very athletic because a huge, heavy dog lacks the stamina and agility to do the jobs GSDs traditionally do. Since you gave me the excuse, here are some cool war dogs:








As you'll notice these dogs bear almost no resemblance to the Kings and Shilohs whatsoever. More than anything, these breeders are recreating the big derpy showdog of their youth rather than the "German wartime dog". Breeding dogs for no other purpose than "be massive" is also a pretty lovely thing for a breeder to do especially in a breed as riddled with structural problems as the GSD. I'm not completely against outcrossing GSDs at all; honestly adding some Belgian and Dutch shepherds to improve their structure and diversify the gene pool would probably do the breed a world of good. But it needs to be done purposefully and in an attempt to improve the breed not just because it looks cool. Breeding for extremely exaggerated features (rear angulation, size, coat color etc) is precisely why you see all these hosed up GSDs with frog legs and banana backs. Breeding for extreme size is just an extension of that obsession with exaggeration that's destroying the breed and saying "Well we health test and their backs are straight" doesn't change that.

And I'm just gonna say it: If you want a dog who will be content chilling out on the couch most of the day, a GSD probably isn't for you. A GSD from a breeder certainly isn't anyways. If you're really insistent on getting a chill dog that looks like a GSD troll the shelters for a while, they're a very popular breed.

cryingscarf
Feb 4, 2007

~*FaBuLoUs*~

Triangulum posted:

I'd suggest they go to the breeders who do a mix of working and good showlines and produce structurally sound but lower drive dogs. There is actually something in between "horrible frogdog", "literally a police dog", and "GSD version of a labradoodle" dude.

Probably would have been more helpful to include this with your first reply to the king shepherd stuff. Sludge seems to be handling it well, but better to educate someone than risk chasing them off and then post good info. I mean, I can see how someone who isn't as involved in the dog world could fall for shiloh/king shepherds and instead of shaming them like notsowelp said, give them a friendly nudge in the right direction. If they then continue to be stupid? Attitude is justified.

Edit: and not to mention, I have been reading up on archives and many PI regulars were innocently clueless to stuff like this not long ago (myself included). You have to start somewhere.

cryingscarf fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Aug 5, 2013

Sutureself
Sep 23, 2007

Well, here's my answer...
Those old wardogs are shaped like my parents' gsd/kelpie mix, but he's a lazy-butt. :3:

WolfensteinBag
Aug 7, 2003

So it was all your work?

cryingscarf posted:

Probably would have been more helpful to include this with your first reply to the king shepherd stuff. Sludge seems to be handling it well, but better to educate someone than risk chasing them off and then post good info. I mean, I can see how someone who isn't as involved in the dog world could fall for shiloh/king shepherds and instead of shaming them like notsowelp said, give them a friendly nudge in the right direction. If they then continue to be stupid? Attitude is justified.

Edit: and not to mention, I have been reading up on archives and many PI regulars were innocently clueless to stuff like this not long ago (myself included). You have to start somewhere.

Yeah, this. :shobon: As much as I absolutely agree with you, Triangulum, we were all ignorant at one point. Putting someone down before they know any better doesn't help them learn. I really wish I did have archives, because I'd love to be able to go back and read some of the stuff I'VE written and likely cringe at it.

notsowelp posted:

Frankly, show shepherds are gross and pointless too: at least 'King Shepherds' don't appear to be literally crippled by their conformation - plus, their community seems to be super big on health testing too. If someone is looking for a pet GSD, where would you suggest they go? Frogdog show lines? Super hardcore working lines? Being snooty at people for being drawn to a GSD type dog that isn't falling apart in the rear and/or too intense and drivey to fit comfortably into their home is dumb and counterproductive. The breed is a mess, I'd far rather a novice go to a ~~byb~~ breeding for sane conformation and doing health tests than get some wobbly-hocked no-butt travesty from a show kennel.

Ok, so here's the problem with the large dogs... even with health testing, not having a sloping back or flat hocks is only going to go so far. Down the line, larger dogs with more weight are going to be more prone to hip and other joint issues, even if it isn't hip or elbow dysplasia. They're also going to be more prone to bloat. If you're looking at meaningful structure, you're looking in the wrong place because the size limits agility and endurance, two hallmarks of the breed. There's just plain no reason, health or otherwise, to be breeding larger dogs.

I have a notion that the majority of these people that get starry eyed thinking about the GSDs they had as kids are just skewing their memories. Even if you're talking less angled show lines, the standard size still hasn't changed. The thing of it is, when we were little, WE were smaller, so EVERYTHING seemed bigger. Of COURSE we could go up to these dogs and give them huge hugs, they were as big as we were. But it doesn't mean they were bigger than the breed standard, that's just not right. So, look for a moderate, male, West German Showline dog if you want a blocky head and a chance at long coated pups, but don't change what the dogs are entirely just because you want to feel like a kid again.

As far as what I would recommend for people interested in seriously researching GSD lines and breeders, I'd say to really get a feel for the type of dog you want, and really research not only lines, but the types of dogs breeders are looking to produce. Dogs have both nerve and drive. Drive is what keeps them wanting to work all day long, but if they don't have the nerves to go with them, that's when you see those skittish dogs that don't know how to settle down in the house. They're constantly on edge because they were bred from lines that only care about the sport and the "GO GO GO" part of it without keeping a clear head to go with it. On the flip side, you'll have dogs from show lines that have practically zero drive for work because they are SO bred to be calm and at ease in the show ring that it takes a lot of effort to get them moving. It's important to find a breeder aiming for the sort of dog you're looking for temperament wise, that breeds the STRUCTURE of dog that you're comfortable with, and that has a list of health tests a mile long (AND knows the health history of their lines, and is willing to share that information, good or bad). If you can weed through the breeders, the forums, the training groups, the clubs, and come out the other side, you'll find exactly the sort of dog you're looking for.

This is why I've been researching GSDs for 5 years, and still no puppy, btw. :sigh:

Sludge Tank posted:

Didnt mean to put people against each other.

Do NOT feel sorry in the slightest!! Dogs in general, but GSDs especially, have a lot of controversy surrounding them. They naturally breed conflict, but having discussions like this is how we educate eachother, bring in new perspective, and hash out our own ethics on the situation. I happen to think in all things in life, we should strive to maintain fluidity in our opinions, because there is absolutely zero chance of any given person being right 100% of the time, and these things carry with them a lot of gray areas. So honestly, thanks for posting, because it's bringing about some great conversation. :)

pomme
May 8, 2013
I love the look of king shepherds but I can't imagine dealing with "regular" GSD shedding plus three inches of length on every single strand of hair that gets stuck to everything I've ever owned ever. :what:
I do agree with Wolfenstein in the sense we were all stupid once. I picked my dog at the pound with an ex because he was cute and we wanted to foster. The dog never left our house and a month later, my ex was kicked out. I was only 19 at the time but was responsible enough to admit that I would just have to deal with it, because ex did not have a job and I wasn't taking the poor dog back when I just needed to work hard to learn to care for him. Looking back, I would not have picked a large breed (though I love large breed dogs!) I was extremely blessed that I have a very low energy shepherd. I wouldn't recommend the risk to someone else. It could have easily gone the way of the helldog.

Skizzles posted:

Also I'm a complete hypocrite because I would be a filthy lying whore if I said looks weren't going to be an important factor in choosing my next dog. :downs: I want a gorgeous dog so sue me. But if I were to come across an ugly dog that had everything else I wanted, then so be it.

I agree with this too. Every few weeks I dream about the day I'll have the time and means to take care of a second large breed dog but in my heart I know that if I met the right dog that was scrawny and ugly as hell, I wouldn't turn it up.

pomme
May 8, 2013
Yes, yes, double post.

Budworth's birthday is coming up. The big five. What do you normally get your dogs as their birthday binge meal? Last year I got him chicken livers but that is kind of boring and not exciting.

Stregone
Sep 1, 2006
This week at nosework class the instructor brought one of her malinois. I had never seen one in person and up close and personal before. It was soo pretty and soft and I totally see the malinois in Shelby now. It was also tiny, like I thought Shelby was kinda small but this girl was skinny and athletic as hell.

Sangori
Sep 6, 2010
This is my Tanzerin, or Tanzy for short. She's a wild rascal, but she's oooh so pretty!

She's far fancier than I ever intended and from a German line. I barely know about it though, so I can only share what the pedigree says. Her sire is Jaro Von Avenir. Her momma was Ulka Vom Mittelwest.

Here she is the day we brought her home. She managed to flop in some puppy poop in the first hour, so she got a bath.


A tisket! A tasket! A Tanzy in a basket!


Here she at a year old the day after we moved. It was exhausting for all involved.


And this was last week. My fancy girl!

WolfensteinBag
Aug 7, 2003

So it was all your work?

Was she bred by Mittelwest? They're right around the corner from here. Are you near Chicago by chance?

Sangori
Sep 6, 2010
She was not bred by Mittelwest. Her mom is owned by a very small time breeder in Kentucky who just moved back near family in Tampa, Florida. She really verges too close to backyard breeder for my tastes under normal circumstances. We had a mutual friend with the breeder whose husband had just died suddenly. She had a litter of puppies and she was kind of overwhelmed with her circumstances. We had been considering getting another larger breed dog for while. We've had a doberman in the past so we took plunge and got her. FYI, GSDs are a whole other level of intense from dobermans. At least mine is!

Sangori fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Aug 20, 2013

Citrine
Jan 2, 2012
Please remind me to go practice pull-ups.
Aww well hopefully it's OK for me to post my Shiloh Shepherd. :ohdear: It was my husband's choice of dog, I was very much against it not being a fan of any dogs over 15 pounds but she won me over. My husband went with a breeder that is very much health conscious and strict about the standards of the dogs she breeds. Our dog was disqualified from being bred because she had 3 white hairs in her tail tip, which was considered a fault which is how we ended up with her. Her dogs are all hip tested in her line, and she just had all of this current litter tested for heart defects as part of her contract (everyone came out fine). This meant we had to order a heart monitor and shave her hair a bit to attach it to her for 24 hours, so she's a bit funny looking atm. But I figured I'd post some adorable pics of her! Also, her name is Viki.


Between 3-5 months, her ears did eventually straighten up.



Between 6-8 months, she's currently just under 9 months now. Right now she's about the size of most of the German Shepherds at the dog park if a little skinny looking. She's smart, already mastered basic commands, and is such a sweet good dog. :3:

Citrine fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Aug 21, 2013

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
What do you guys feed your GSDs?

Logan's about 6 1/2 months, and as far as I can tell weighs right around 50 lbs. Growth charts I've seen online suggest he should be right about 60. We feed him twice a day, and if he doesn't eat within a reasonable amount of time, we take it away. For the past week or so he just doesn't seem interested in breakfast. I make him sit and stay on the opposite side of the room, which he does, then when I release him he sprints (as well as possible on linoleum) to the food, sniffs it, and goes back to whatever he was doing before. Usually at dinner he'll eat all his food. He seems healthy, there are no other indications that would suggest he's feeling sick. He's still nosy as hell, playful, reasonably obedient, shits like a boss (and conveniently enough, in one section of the yard :) ), and all the normal things you'd expect from a healthy pup. We've been feeding him Eukanuba Large Breed Puppy, on recommendations from the breeder, and until now it's been great. He used to actually work for bits of his kibble, we didn't even have to use treats when working with him. It just seems like he decided he doesn't care for this food anymore.

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WolfensteinBag
Aug 7, 2003

So it was all your work?

GUYS! Maika von Wildhaus is up for adoption! :stare: She sounds peeerrrfffeecctttt...... :cry:

Edit: And they had to spay Heidi!!! :cry: I'm so sad!! :(

WolfensteinBag fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Aug 23, 2013

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