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FreeKillB posted:
So do Hetty, Renard, and Coyote. I honestly don't see the fuss here. Yeah, Renard is a killer. As it's expected from a Forest Spirit. Sorry, but Nature ain't innocent. He had been ever since he was introduced. Maybe he didn't knew at first that his power would kill, but he definitely does afterward. And he didn't care back then. Now, Renard is not the same as he was back then, considering he regret his past, selfish actions. However, that does not make him suddelndly a saint or a pacifist. He was just elevated from a straight up villain to a morally grey anti hero. And I really don't see why should Siddel refrains from showing a morally ambiguous character do evil poo poo once in a while. We know murder is bad, thank you very much, no need to turn the story in a PSA about it.
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I think it's still too early to call it murder per se. Not that that's not entirely possible, but we don't really know. Death isn't exactly straightforward in GC, after all. Forest fairies have to die to be reborn in the court, for vague reasons. We don't even know for certain that Rey would die without a body, all we have is Eglamore saying one time that without another body 'he must have died as well'. It's not as certain as saying he definitely would die, it sounds like he's just drawing a logical conclusion. There's enough wiggle room there that the story could go another direction. And Rendard's power is specifically one given by Coyote, which may be entirely different than whatever lets Hetty the shrimp monster possess a doll. Annie was able to disconnect her spirit from her body in the ether in the classroom full of crazy fairies, and she didn't instantly die. Who knows, though. Maybe Friday will just have Shrimpy saying 'augh you killed me' -chapter end symbol-.
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Jul 31, 2013 17:30
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Also this is a world where innately evil (or good) beings can exist. Coyote is a jerk because it's in his very nature, he isn't "mentally ill". Sometimes a murdershrimp is just a murdershrimp.quote:I'm actually wondering if Hetty has the proper version of Reynard's power, where she won't leave him dead after a possession, and winds up framing him for something. That bottle on the title page has to mean something. I think it might not be like Renard's power at all. Maybe it's something specific to etheric sea creatures like Lindsey or Bud, who can leave their bodies at will. Renard's "energy form" when he leaves his body trying to possess a new one doesn't look anything like shrimp hettie. (In that it looks like rey is made of energy while hetty just looks like a ghost prawn)
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Jul 31, 2013 17:45
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In a completion of all those questions people keep asking Tom about what exactly Renard could posses, Hetty will end up possessing the eye of a needle stuck inside Renard's doll body. Crazy doll spirits all the way down.
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Jul 31, 2013 17:48
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In any case y'all might wanna get yourself away from that raging inferno, Renard 
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Jul 31, 2013 18:51
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Renard painfully severs the connection between doll and demon-krill Hetty, and then says "there you go rear end in a top hat, now you don't have to make that kid's life miserable anymore". Then ditches her for his real friends. 
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Jul 31, 2013 18:58
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SHISHKABOB posted:Renard painfully severs the connection between doll and demon-krill Hetty, and then says "there you go rear end in a top hat, now you don't have to make that kid's life miserable anymore". Gunnerkrigg Court after school specials are weird.
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Jul 31, 2013 19:42
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There can be only one.
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Jul 31, 2013 20:32
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This entire chapter has been kinda weird to me so far. As it has been extremely straightforward despite how the dialogue has been written. In fact it's still kinda weird as Hetty continues their nigh complete ignoring of anything Renard says even in the middle of being attacked.
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Jul 31, 2013 20:34
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I wonder if Coyote will act any difference once Renard has destroyed his shrimp-form.
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Blackheart posted:This strengthens my belief that the body changes are only out of utility. Need some precision limbs to stomp and flick things? Dollmode activate! Need some chompin' pouncin' action? wolfmode activate! and that the whole "plaything of the body" stuff meant something different from "I have different personalities depending on my current form" I thought that it was accepted he changes wolf forms based on however he feels or whatever he needs, and that the discussion about changing with body/bodies were referring to when he has a fox/human/Sivo/toy body? E: I get the feeling I may have misunderstood what people were talking about when speaking of changing bodies. If it was purely about the changing wolf form then yeah, I'd agree that he changes based on utility or as a reflection of how he's feeling. Battle Pigeon fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Jul 31, 2013 |
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Battle Pigeon posted:I thought that it was accepted he changes wolf forms based on however he feels or whatever he needs, and that the discussion about changing with body/bodies were referring to when he has a fox/human/Sivo/toy body? No, there are people that think even toy/wolf form changes the way he acts, which I disagree with. It's just a different perspective though, I don't think anyone is dumb or anything for believing that.
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Renard literally said "the mind is a plaything of the body". I don't remember when he says that, or if he (or anyone else) ever says it again. But to me it sounds similar to "love makes you do crazy things" in that it's one of Tom's themes or whatever that he's trying to get across. There's oodles and oodles of different situations where people are in different bodies or forms and that changes the way they act. Also haircuts, Kat and her haircuts. And Kat and the way she dresses. Of course clothes aren't a part of your body, but it's about what you look like. It's a major theme.
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Jul 31, 2013 21:18
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SHISHKABOB posted:Renard literally said "the mind is a plaything of the body". I don't remember when he says that, or if he (or anyone else) ever says it again. http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=413 The correct answer when you don't know when someone said something is to go archive diving. Just bring a backup air supply, you may get trapped down there.
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Jul 31, 2013 22:08
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BobTheJanitor posted:http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=413 The problem with archive diving is that if it's beyond the first couple dozen pages, you just forget what you were looking for and suddenly it's a day later and you just read up to the most recent page, and you still have no idea what you were looking for or where it is.
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Jul 31, 2013 22:18
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Some day I am going to write a synopsis for each chapter detailing the major events so that I don't have to burn through hundreds of chapters looking for stuff.
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Jul 31, 2013 22:19
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SHISHKABOB posted:Some day I am going to is what I think you meant to say.
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Rasamune posted:In any case y'all might wanna get yourself away from that raging inferno, Renard
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Paracelsus posted:In a surprise twist that doesn't show through in the art, while in animal form Renard is still actually made out of highly flammable stuffing. I hate to start this, but since Surma made him for Annie there's some chance that she made sure the doll was somewhat fire resistant.
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Jul 31, 2013 23:04
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Asbestos fiber -- what better plush material for your beloved daughter/soul-reincarnation?
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Dogdoo 8 posted:I hate to start this, but since Surma made him for Annie there's some chance that she made sure the doll was somewhat fire resistant. You know, I'd be surprised if he wasn't, to some degree. Even if it's just a side effect of having Annie's symbol.
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Blackheart posted:No, there are people that think even toy/wolf form changes the way he acts, which I disagree with. It's just a different perspective though, I don't think anyone is dumb or anything for believing that. I suspect it's a bit of both. It changes the way he acts in the same way that, say, if you woke up six foot four tall and covered in muscle, you'd probably act and react to the world differently to if the following day you woke up a four foot weakling, even though it was the same you. Not a direct force, but it leaves an impression, shifts his frame of mind. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Aug 1, 2013 |
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Aug 1, 2013 03:59
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Creepy burning smiling doll face.
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SHISHKABOB posted:Creepy burning smiling doll face. I only see half of that face and yet it creeps me out beyond belief.
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Aug 2, 2013 08:03
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Reynard is stone cold. "OK, that's Hetty done with. Now what was I doing, oh yeah."
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Aug 2, 2013 08:03
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drat, Renard's all pro ice all of a sudden.
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Boy, that was something. Kind of a tonal change for the series, in my opinion. We've never had a developed character meet a gruesome end like that, unless you count Jeanne's elf boyfriend as a developed character. Plus it was at the paws of someone we're familiar with and like. Also, finally we find out about who owns the house. Still betting on Brinnie.
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Aug 2, 2013 08:06
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Rest in peace, Hetty. You were too evil for this world.
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Aug 2, 2013 08:28
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Bad to the bone 
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Aug 2, 2013 08:45
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Gosh, it's almost like everyone who had known Reynardine since before Annie even came to the court and had been calling him far more dangerous than appearances suggested knew what they were talking about. I mean, seriously, he knew exactly what to do. Expose the 'spirit', sever the connection. Zero hesitation.
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Aug 2, 2013 08:50
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 Anyways, Rey Rey, back to what you were doing before you were so rudely interrupted by the evil marionette thing.
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I tried to make a gif but it came out less angry head-shaking and more happy tail-wagging. I guess soul-shrimp tastes pretty good.
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Aug 2, 2013 09:30
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Well, it looks like we're going to find out whose house that is come monday.
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Aug 2, 2013 09:53
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The house of Reynard's agent, "Yeh boss, I took care of 'er, now where's me money!" Reynard has found himself a new job as a to-hire spirit-assassin, the rest of the comic will be Reynard hunting down evil spirits in a gritty, film-noir style.
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I've been assuming it's someone connected to the man Reynard possessed and killed, likely a family member. Reynard has been going to that door repeatedly in an attempt to be forgiven, and has been rebuffed each time by the closed door. I think we're about to see the first time the door has been opened to Rey.
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Aug 2, 2013 10:21
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Oh what a cute dog! Pet pet pet... aaaaa it's full of glass fibres, how could you?!
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Aug 2, 2013 10:29
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Okay, Renard does not gently caress around 
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Madrox posted:I've been assuming it's someone connected to the man Reynard possessed and killed, likely a family member. Reynard has been going to that door repeatedly in an attempt to be forgiven, and has been rebuffed each time by the closed door. I think we're about to see the first time the door has been opened to Rey. He needed to finish the "atonement" quest ("slay at least one evil spirit") in order to unlock the area. Conveniently, one quest target was materialized in the vicinity upon receiving the quest.
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Goodbye to you too, Tommie.
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What's that in the fire in the third panel? At first glance it looks like the outline of a wolf, but then it looks more like a boulder with a hole in it.
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