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Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!
I thought I would be reading Horus Heresy novels until they ran out of poo poo to write about, but I've reached the breaking point three shorts into Mark of Calth. It didn't help that it started with the world's most generic bolter porn. Now I'm skipping whole pages in disinterest. Stupid ADB ruining my brainless books, spoiling it with his stupid, great writing.

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mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Donnerberg posted:

I thought I would be reading Horus Heresy novels until they ran out of poo poo to write about, but I've reached the breaking point three shorts into Mark of Calth. It didn't help that it started with the world's most generic bolter porn. Now I'm skipping whole pages in disinterest. Stupid ADB ruining my brainless books, spoiling it with his stupid, great writing.

Keep going, the quality takes a sharp upswing very soon.

EyeRChris
Mar 3, 2010

Intergalactic, all-planetary, everything super-supreme champion
The Black Library should really pit a major battle of Dan Abbot on the Imperium side with ADB writing the Chaos side of the battle. A collaboration story between those two would be amazing.

Dravs
Mar 8, 2011

You've done well, kiddo.

EyeRChris posted:

The Black Library should really pit a major battle of Dan Abbot on the Imperium side with ADB writing the Chaos side of the battle. A collaboration story between those two would be amazing.

It wouldn't work, you would be rooting for both sides to win.

On another note, I have just finished Seventh Retribution by Ben Counter, new publication released last month featuring Lysander and the Imp Fists. Interested in what someone else who has read it thinks of it before I weigh in.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Dravs posted:

It wouldn't work, you would be rooting for both sides to win.

On another note, I have just finished Seventh Retribution by Ben Counter, new publication released last month featuring Lysander and the Imp Fists. Interested in what someone else who has read it thinks of it before I weigh in.

I haven't read it but I'll give a review anyway: it's a lovely Ben Counter book

Dravs
Mar 8, 2011

You've done well, kiddo.
Yes it is pretty lovely, and not in a lovely but enjoyable way like his Soul Drinker books, I just found it very boring and generic with nothing really happening, lots of broken canon and a stupid plot line. He doesn't even write the action scenes well.

Spoiler in case someone is going to read it:

He creates a new Assassin temple (think Callidus or Eversor or Vindicare etc) which is an assassin that can create new biomass on the fly and make new things grow out of her. Somehow this assassin is able to call upon multiple chaos champions and control them utterly until you have a Khornate World Eater kneeling in front of her (and he isn't even very angry) ready to do her bidding. It is never really explained how she manages to do this apart from 'assassinorium sekretz'. Most of the marines who die are killed by things which would never really inconvenience them in canon, like a blade in the stomach or a pointy branch through the neck or caught in a landslide. The fates of several of the marines whose pov you get in the book are just completely ignored at the end which has Lysander seemingly abandoning one of his brothers who had just crashed inside a Thunderhawk, never finding out his fate. One of the main characters in the book who actually has chapters written just for him. Forgotten as Lysander walks off into the sunset.

gently caress you, Ben Counter

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Dravs posted:

It wouldn't work, you would be rooting for both sides to win.

On another note, I have just finished Seventh Retribution by Ben Counter, new publication released last month featuring Lysander and the Imp Fists. Interested in what someone else who has read it thinks of it before I weigh in.

It's extremely terrible, in my opinion.

Lily Catts
Oct 17, 2012

Show me the way to you
(Heavy Metal)
What the poo poo? That is from the same guy who wrote the most decent novella in Architect of Fate? (which is telling about the book's overall quality)

I liked Ben Counter's story most because it was the most coherent and didn't make me roll my eyes with the inscrutable nature of Fateweaver's plans and just did straight-up bolter porn.

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
I got Soul Hunter due to this thread and its sooooo fuckin good. Beautifully written and paced, great characters and an epic sense of scale.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:
I finished reading Titanicus recently. I felt like it didn't pick up until midway but Abnett seemed to have fun with the Mechanis world building. The internal intrigue in the Forge was probably my favorite part. As always with Abnett the ending was rushed but it was nice that things weren't completely resolved by the Titans themselves with the soldiers on the ground playing a key part. The subplot with the one soldier's husband being an idiot seemed like it was tacked on as filler. I would have liked a little more time with the Mechanis representative and Imperial observer in its place to flesh out more of the lore.

Shameless
Dec 22, 2004

We're all so ugly and stupid and doomed.
Angel Exterminatus has made the longlist for the Guardians "Not the Booker" prize.

http://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2013/aug/05/not-the-booker-prize-longlist-shortlist

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Shameless posted:

Angel Exterminatus has made the longlist for the Guardians "Not the Booker" prize.

http://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2013/aug/05/not-the-booker-prize-longlist-shortlist
What in the world does "Not the Booker" mean?

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

berzerkmonkey posted:

What in the world does "Not the Booker" mean?

They're worst of list I'd imagine.

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib

bunnyofdoom posted:

They're worst of list I'd imagine.

It's just a prize voted on by the Guardian's readers.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_Booker_Prize

Shameless
Dec 22, 2004

We're all so ugly and stupid and doomed.

berzerkmonkey posted:

What in the world does "Not the Booker" mean?

The Booker prize is a big literary prize every year, where the titles are judged by literary people. Last year (I think) The Guardian started the "Not the Booker" prize where all books are nominated and judged by readers rather than the literati.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Shameless posted:

The Booker prize is a big literary prize every year, where the titles are judged by literary people. Last year (I think) The Guardian started the "Not the Booker" prize where all books are nominated and judged by readers rather than the literati.
Oh, ok - that makes sense now.

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
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Shameless posted:

Angel Exterminatus has made the longlist for the Guardians "Not the Booker" prize.

http://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2013/aug/05/not-the-booker-prize-longlist-shortlist

Should have been Betrayer.

Dog_Meat
May 19, 2013

VanSandman posted:

Should have been Betrayer.

What, no love for Battle for the Abyss?

CreepyGuy9000
Jul 9, 2013

Dog_Meat posted:

What, no love for Battle for the Abyss?

Released in the wrong year unfortunately.

Lily Catts
Oct 17, 2012

Show me the way to you
(Heavy Metal)
Chris Wraight's new HH novel is a serialized ebook. Umm, what. That pricing.

Fellblade
Apr 28, 2009

Schneider Heim posted:

Chris Wraight's new HH novel is a serialized ebook. Umm, what. That pricing.

I hate the person that is trying to push this awful marketing. I am getting upset about plastic man books.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
£18 for an eBook. We're reaching academia pricing.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

ed balls balls man posted:

£18 for an eBook. We're reaching academia pricing.
Even worse, it's $36 in the US. GW let their marketing and sales department take over the company and ruined a good thing.

At times, I consider getting back into 40K or picking up a book, and then I see something like this. Then I am reminded of the horrible greed, with absolutely no consideration for their customers. gently caress you, GW. gently caress you. :argh:

berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Aug 7, 2013

Dog_Meat
May 19, 2013
It's a shame, because I had actually brought every one of the paperbacks up to Angel Exterminatus (even the bad ones, I'm typically obsessive) - but I've stopped because of the new larger formats and splitting the series into retarded audio books, ebooks, etc.

Now I'm leaving the series because I feel like I'm being pushed out by GW's marketing and insistance on doing things this way. I have a shelf full of half a series that ends with a giant, glossy book that I wouldn't have brought had I realised it was a 'special release'.

Just give me the books in nice, uniform paperbacks and I'll buy the lot. All of them. Even the lovely ones. I own 'The Primarchs' for gently caress's sake. Why won't you take my money? Why can't I waste my disposable income on pew pew space man stories?

rocket_Magnet
Apr 5, 2005

:unsmith:
That Chris wraight scars ebook is showing up as £18 for some of you? Shows as £1.50 for me :iiam:. Maybe I'm just being a luddite but I would have preferred for the HH series to remain all paperback, instead of throwing in exclusive audio books, and now exclusive ebooks. I read paperbacks on the way to and from work, but I'm not going to listen to some terrible voice acting or buy a kindle/ipad just so I can get my spacemans fix.

edit: £22.00 for an audiobook of helsreach :psyduck:

edit: ohh, right yeah that makes sense. Jesus, guess they were worried people would pay the £18 in one go but £1.50 a week is a bargain :downs:

rocket_Magnet fucked around with this message at 12:37 on Aug 7, 2013

Deformed Church
May 12, 2012

5'5", IQ 81


rocket_Magnet posted:

That Chris wraight scars ebook is showing up as £18 for some of you? Shows as £1.50 for me :iiam:. Maybe I'm just being a luddite but I would have preferred for the HH series to remain all paperback, instead of throwing in exclusive audio books, and now exclusive ebooks. I read paperbacks on the way to and from work, but I'm not going to listen to some terrible voice acting or buy a kindle/ipad just so I can get my spacemans fix.

It's twelve episodes at £1.50 each, released over 12 weeks.

TheStampede
Feb 20, 2008

"I'm like a hunter of peace. One who chases the elusive mayfly of love... or something like that."

Dog_Meat posted:

It's a shame, because I had actually brought every one of the paperbacks up to Angel Exterminatus (even the bad ones, I'm typically obsessive) - but I've stopped because of the new larger formats and splitting the series into retarded audio books, ebooks, etc.

Now I'm leaving the series because I feel like I'm being pushed out by GW's marketing and insistance on doing things this way. I have a shelf full of half a series that ends with a giant, glossy book that I wouldn't have brought had I realised it was a 'special release'.

Just give me the books in nice, uniform paperbacks and I'll buy the lot. All of them. Even the lovely ones. I own 'The Primarchs' for gently caress's sake. Why won't you take my money? Why can't I waste my disposable income on pew pew space man stories?

Yeah, this is the part that makes me sad. I could never get into the table top because it had gotten far too expensive by time I got around to 40K (I've got several Rubbermaid containers full of Magic:TCG cards I try not to think about already), and now the literature is becoming ridiculous and prohibitively expensive. I really liked the look of the HH paperbacks, and had a good collection going to display (God...). Now the end of my shelf is full of hardcovers, and then there is all this digital content...that's more expensive then the physical copies...

What the hell GW.

Fellblade
Apr 28, 2009
I feel like an old man, I think I'm going to write a letter to GW HQ complaining.

Quit gettin' mad 'bout 'hams.

Dog_Meat
May 19, 2013
Pft! Everyone knows that a facebook petition is the only way to get this done. Remember when we stopped child abuse?

Seriously though, GW have always been retarded when it comes to their customers. But like George Lucas, they know that enough people will keep going along to get their grimdark fix.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
I wrote in when the local manager was being a dick a while back. Got a bullshit response about policy then they ignored me calling them on that. Feel free to vent though.

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!

Fellblade posted:

I hate the person that is trying to push this awful marketing. I am getting upset about plastic man books.

MooCowlian posted:

It's twelve episodes at £1.50 each, released over 12 weeks.

John Scalzi did this for his latest scifi book. Of course, he charged 99 cents an "episode", not $4


Related, I have the OP for the let's read done, but I want to get a few chapters ahead before I start the thread. I just took a new job, and I have to relocate for it, so I want to be able to update while dealing with all that chaos

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

Fried Chicken posted:

John Scalzi did this for his latest scifi book. Of course, he charged 99 cents an "episode", not $4


I remember preordering a book by Scalzi, which ended up as a very short book for 2-3 times the cost of a pocket book.
So gently caress him, he's not even trying anymore.

A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011
If I really really like Salamanders can I justify reading Vulkan Lives?

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!

Cardiac posted:

I remember preordering a book by Scalzi, which ended up as a very short book for 2-3 times the cost of a pocket book.
So gently caress him, he's not even trying anymore.

Which one was that?

Nephilm
Jun 11, 2009

by Lowtax

SUPER NEAT TOY posted:

If I really really like Salamanders can I justify reading Vulkan Lives?

How many Nick Kyme books have you read? Because this sounds like being the worst of them.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
I wonder if any of the XBox people now work over at GW.

The Warthog
Mar 25, 2013

Did I just do your job for you?

SUPER NEAT TOY posted:

If I really really like Salamanders can I justify reading Vulkan Lives?

If you really, really, like Salamanders, then you have more reason to avoid Nick Kyme's Salamander books than most. He's really shitted on the fluff of one of the most interesting and overlooked FF chapters.

Dravs
Mar 8, 2011

You've done well, kiddo.

The Warthog posted:

If you really, really, like Salamanders, then you have more reason to avoid Nick Kyme's Salamander books than most. He's really shitted on the fluff of one of the most interesting and overlooked FF chapters.

I read those books. After reading them I just felt really confused and depressed. For any aspiring writer, you do not want to give your readers that feeling after reading a trilogy of books you have written.

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VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

Dravs posted:

I read those books. After reading them I just felt really confused and depressed. For any aspiring writer, you do not want to give your readers that feeling after reading a trilogy of books you have written.

Kafka. :colbert:

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