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Incendies is one of the better film ive seen. It threads on matters that very little movies have been able to. Worth watching with subtitles. Its like Der untergang. You have to watch it in the original language.
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Baloogan posted:You are never going to get a job in our federal government. Story of my life. 
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Aug 4, 2013 03:50
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The worst part is how smug the little french 40 year old men are about it during your interview (that came at the end of a 6 month process involving 2 aptitude tests). Its institutionalized bigotry; and institutionalized, government bigotry is the thing I hate most about this country. We have an awful lot of it.
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Aug 4, 2013 04:02
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If working for the federal gov. is anything like working for BC then you dont want that.
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Aug 4, 2013 04:23
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The Trotsky is a great movie from Quebec and as a bonus it's (mostly) in English for you dirty outsiders.
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Aug 4, 2013 04:28
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Austrian mook posted:If working for the federal gov. is anything like working for BC then you dont want that. I'm so glad they didn't take me in retrospect. I'm making hella more money in STEM private industry. I was young and stupid and the world was in one hell of a recession right when I graduated.
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Aug 4, 2013 04:31
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Baloogan posted:I'm so glad they didn't take me in retrospect. I'm making hella more money in STEM private industry. I was young and stupid and the world was in one hell of a recession right when I graduated. I got in with Municipal government, defined pension, somehow competitive salary. Best of both worlds really. But its just accounting.
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Aug 4, 2013 04:43
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HookShot posted:The Trotsky is a great movie from Quebec and as a bonus it's (mostly) in English for you dirty outsiders. This so loving hard. This is one of my favorites of all time. Please everyone go watch it. As a histpry major i swear this movie was made for me
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Aug 4, 2013 06:03
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HookShot posted:The Trotsky is a great movie from Quebec and as a bonus it's (mostly) in English for you dirty outsiders. Also jumping on the 'The Trotsky is fuckin awesome' bandwagon. One of my favourite Canadian movies for sure. I want to host a social justice themed prom 
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Aug 4, 2013 06:25
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Dont you know that public servant are ruining our economy? Benefits are the bane of capitalism. And bon cop bad cop is a pretty good one. I do enjoy a movie that makes you think bilingually. But gently caress then french etc. E: I want to host a social justice themed porn. Cocaine Bear fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Aug 4, 2013 |
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Aug 4, 2013 06:28
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JoelJoel posted:Dont you know that public servant are ruining our economy? Benefits are the bane of capitalism. Don't worry, governments can just bankruptcy all those pesky entitlements away.
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Aug 4, 2013 06:42
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The Quebecois have always been at the forefront of Canadian Feature Film Cinema. Most of Canada in the past thought major feature fiction films should be produced and exported by the Americans until movies like Mon Oncle Antoine. Hence why a lot of non Quebec cinema were amazing documentaries such as Warrendale and Nanook Of The North or experimental cinema like Neighbours and Wavelength. Not to say there wasn't big non Quebec films before the Tax Shelter Era such as Going Down The Road. Although, if you really enjoy Canadian or Quebec Cinema I recommend Les Ordres, one of the greatest films I have ever seen and is about one of the larger moments in Canadian History post World War Two. Also Leolo is fantastic as well.
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Aug 4, 2013 06:47
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JoelJoel posted:And bon cop bad cop is a pretty good one. I think it's a really bland mass appeal comedy and I hate that it's what Canadians instantly think of when they hear about Quebec cinema. We've got a fantastic crop of young directors that are gaining recognition internationally through the festival circuit (Denis Villeneuve, Philippe Falardeau, Xavier Dolan, Kim Nguyen to name a few). Now, sadly, their critical success hasn't translated to box office success here in Quebec either. There's been a debate going on for about year about the decrease in popularity of Quebec films. Some are arguing, like theatre owner Vincent Guzzo, that we're funding too many auteur films at the expense of more commercial pictures. quote:Many stakeholders stepped up to the plate and replied to [Guzzo]. Amongst these, director Philippe Falardeau (Oscar nominee Monsieur Lazhar) responded more specifically to the accusation of wasting "taxpayer money" in "grant movies that are always complaining about something." His rebuttal was rigorously logical: (1) it's impossible to predict what will become a commercial success (and thus what "people want to see"), (2) big productions are not profitable even though producers and distributors earn a lot of money, and (3) all movies receive grants, from the smallest to biggest productions, and sometimes, it's the smaller productions that end up costing less to the taxpayer. http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/behind-numbers/2013/05/cultural-exception-and-state-funding-quebec-film-industry Notice how I'm trying to veer my own thread derailment into a political discussion?
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Austrian mook posted:This so loving hard. This is one of my favorites of all time. Please everyone go watch it. As a histpry major i swear this movie was made for me This movie owned and not just because they filmed it at my high school.
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Aug 4, 2013 07:12
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JayMax posted:I think it's a really bland mass appeal comedy and I hate that it's what Canadians instantly think of when they hear about Quebec cinema. Well, to be fair, I'm no cinema expert and though I recognize the silly attempts at humour and the over reliance on bland tropes, it was a fun flick that explored the idea of a movie for a bilingual audience. My first experience with the style and something I liked (at the risk of a detail, aren't movies supposed to be things you enjoy watching?). JayMax posted:Notice how I'm trying to veer my own thread derailment into a political discussion? Seeing as there likely isn't enough of an audience (presumably) to warrant its own thread, I don't see the harm in a modicum of discussion of Quebecois cinema in this thread. Maybe I'm wrong.
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I think that in a film so interested in the (a) Canadian identity, a heavy reliance on tropes is actually an asset. It's trying to define, or at least articulate, a Canadian lowest common denominator so the points of genericness establish the movie's universality. Sure there's the issue that this 'fundamental canadianness' is two white dudes talking about hockey, but I think it does an okay job of getting across the Two Solitudes and arguing that they are fundamentally reconcilable.
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Aug 4, 2013 17:01
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This is the best/worst pride outfit. 
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Aug 4, 2013 23:02
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Pinterest Mom posted:This is the best/worst pride outfit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URGhV9XiivY
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Aug 4, 2013 23:38
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Pinterest Mom posted:This is the best/worst pride outfit. this is so loving  I love it.
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Aug 4, 2013 23:43
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Austrian mook posted:If working for the federal gov. is anything like working for BC then you dont want that. It was awful and I would never go back. Seriously, unless you've been there for decades already working for the fed sucks. I work for a municipality now and it's much nicer, though still awful in many ways.
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Aug 5, 2013 01:02
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Dix still managed to do better than the last time they were photographed together.
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Aug 5, 2013 13:08
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Dix honestly should just get out of politics post haste.
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I understand why Dix is clinging to his position since once he's out as NDP leader his political career will almost certainly have peaked. This is his last and best shot at launching a career as a prominent national level politician. What I don't understand is why anyone else in the BC NDP would be supportive of this. I understand maybe keeping him for a year or so as a caretaker but why does it increasingly look like this clown is going to get another shot at a general election? I guess this is what happens when party democracy completely withers away. Being on good terms with the handful of insiders who run the party bureaucracy is more important than actually winning elections or shifting the political status quo.
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He is not an interesting politician, his excuse for fabricating information on government documents is "I was in my 30s, young and naive...". I held my nose to vote NDP in the last provincial election. Someone in the BC NDP thought it was a good idea to slowly reveal their platform. Layton shouldn't have died. He died when Canada needed him most...
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Aug 5, 2013 19:23
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Isn't Dix's boringness supposed to be his main selling point? I don't have a great grasp on BC politics but I've seen numerous commentators say something to the effect of "Dix is the new kind of NDPer who strikes a centrist tone and doesn't talk about class warfare". This, supposedly, was a major part of his success and why he was going to win the last election. Also, gotta love the banner ad I just saw for this thread: "FACT: Wireless rates in Canada are typically lower than in the U.S."  
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Aug 5, 2013 19:36
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Helsing posted:
Didn't you know that if you start a sentence with "FACT:" it's irrefutably true?
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Aug 5, 2013 19:42
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A lot of the time it is actually true, though? (  this is not something to be proud of, US rates from the majors are also awful)
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Aug 5, 2013 19:48
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Helsing posted:Isn't Dix's boringness supposed to be his main selling point? I certainly don't want class warfare rhetoric coming out of political leadership. The only thing class warfare could bring to Canada is chaos. Our rich would just move 100 miles south.
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On the plus side, at least the dog pictured to the left of the banner ad has the decency to look ashamed at what the banner ad is saying.
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Helsing posted:Isn't Dix's boringness supposed to be his main selling point? I don't have a great grasp on BC politics but I've seen numerous commentators say something to the effect of "Dix is the new kind of NDPer who strikes a centrist tone and doesn't talk about class warfare". This, supposedly, was a major part of his success and why he was going to win the last election. Change, for the better. One practical step at a time. God forbid a political party make a passionate argument for itself. I don't think Dix hanging on until the end of the party's post-mortem about the last election is that concerning. He doesn't seem to have the support of the membership, I don't think he has a constituency in caucus who is willing to go to bat to keep him around, he's basically a dead man walking. I think it might actually be healthy. Asking the questions about what went wrong, what went right, how and where to get the next 5% or 10% of the electorate BCNDP needs to win is probably a lot easier to do and more productive when relatively divorced from a campaign for the leadership. It might be better for the party as a whole to do it, let members and potential candidates gather their thoughts and figure out how they want to change things than it would be for, say, the Cullen camp and the Farnworth camp and the Robertson camp to try to use party reform as a wedge during a snap leadership campaign. Look at what happened in the federal NDP. Jack died, the party never really took the time to reflect and look back at what worked and what didn't during Jack's tenure as leader, and you got a really boring leadership campaign where five of the six major candidates were running on a platform of "let's not change a thing", and the sixth wanted to not change a thing, but maybe make friends with Liberals sometimes. A party doing its devoir d'inventaire before launching a leadership race could be a good idea. I'm predicating this on the idea that Dix is smart enough to not try to stay on and understands that he is currently serving as caretaker leader. I'd be really surprised if it were otherwise, but I suppose it could be possible. Dix could be thinking "McGuinty and Harper looked like eternal losers after their first election, too". I don't think he is, though.
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Baloogan posted:I certainly don't want class warfare rhetoric coming out of political leadership. We already practice class warfare, it just happens to be aimed at the working poor, natives, seasonal workers, etc. instead of bankers. And given that we have one of the worst records of corporate investment or innovation in the OECD I'm really not sure why it would be a bad thing if Conrad Black decides to move South again. What do you imagine will happen? Will all of Canada's natural resources dissapear after the rich leave (p.s. most of them won't leave)? Will our highly educated workforce suddenly lose all their skills? Will our healthcare and infrastructure suddenly stop mattering? Will median wages and salaries start declining even faster than they have been for the last four decades?
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Helsing posted:Also, gotta love the banner ad I just saw for this thread: The telecoms are spamming the airwaves here in BC with this bullshit. There's an ad that basically spouts this line, and then there's another that complains about how Verizon is going to be subsidized by the Canadian government, and that jobs will be lost because they're an American company. You can almost taste the desperation at actually having to face real competition.
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Aug 5, 2013 20:38
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But Helsing, without our wonderful job creators, who will create jobs for Canadians??? Why do you hate prosperity
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Aug 5, 2013 20:39
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What's hilarious is that everyone I've talked to where the topic came up called them out on their bullshit. Its an ad campaign thats so desperate that even average politically/economically ignorant people aren't buying it. Canada gets royally screwed by our Carriers, and its no secret
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Aug 5, 2013 20:44
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Don't forget the line about how Verizon has more customers in the USA than people living in Canada.
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The way we used to defend it when I worked for Telus was something like "infrastructure costs are higher for a telecom in Canada based on the large territory that needs to be covered and the low population density."
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Baloogan posted:I certainly don't want class warfare rhetoric coming out of political leadership. Good.
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Yeah, I don't know a single person who actually thinks we get a good deal on our telecom stuff.
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Canadian telecoms are so afraid of people turning against them that they got this video which was directed towards U.S. telecoms banned in Canada. Because it doesn't matter which country, it's the same buttfucking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xadoX2E7wY
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