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At this point, this is beyond laughter and now officially just sad. 
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Aug 9, 2013 06:43
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No, it's still pretty funny.
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Aug 9, 2013 06:50
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Seriously how do you gently caress up a system launch to a point where almost no one knows it's a new system? How did that even come to be? Edit: and then how do you gently caress it up so much that no one knows what it is a year after it's released? This has to be just about the worst marketing failure I have ever seen. veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Aug 9, 2013 |
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Aug 9, 2013 07:03
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The best thing about this sign is that there's no way to interpret it other than people are returning Wii U games that they mistakenly bought for their Wii. So even Wii owners are confused.
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Aug 9, 2013 07:06
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They should have called it by it's proper name, the "Super Nintendo Revolution". There you go Nintendo. You can have that one for free and you can fire your marketing team that is so intent on naming your consoles after things that sound like confusing bathroom jokes.
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Aug 9, 2013 07:14
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Quest For Glory II posted:The best thing about this sign is that there's no way to interpret it other than people are returning Wii U games that they mistakenly bought for their Wii. They are probably pissed that weird tablet controller is always sold out too and they have to buy a new Wii to get one.
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Aug 9, 2013 07:27
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NESguerilla posted:They should have called it by it's proper name, the "Super Nintendo Revolution". There you go Nintendo. You can have that one for free and you can fire your marketing team that is so intent on naming your consoles after things that sound like confusing bathroom jokes. If they rebrand it, they won't just call it the Wii 2- that would be too easy. How about... WiiWii?
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Aug 9, 2013 07:35
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Have they ever explained why it wasn't called the Wii 2?
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Aug 9, 2013 07:40
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Toady posted:Have they ever explained why it wasn't called the Wii 2? The same reason they didn't just make a machine with modern components and a normal controller. That would have made sense.  (No, there's really no rhyme or reason for the things Nintendo does any more.)
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Aug 9, 2013 07:43
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Soul Glo posted:The same reason they didn't just make a machine with modern components and a normal controller. But guys, Mario!
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Aug 9, 2013 07:46
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Toady posted:Have they ever explained why it wasn't called the Wii 2? I seem to remember a rambling speech by... who, Reggie? when it was announced where he went on about how the Wii was about 'We' and the U was about 'You' while showing off the Miiverse. I might be completely off base, but I'm pretty sure it's a reference to it's tolerable-by-console-standards internet connectivity.
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Aug 9, 2013 07:48
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Toady posted:Have they ever explained why it wasn't called the Wii 2? I'd be willing to bet it was a sad attempt at milking Apples success in giving devices really stupid names and making bank off of it, despite whatever Reggie says.
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Aug 9, 2013 07:54
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One and the Same posted:I seem to remember a rambling speech by... who, Reggie? when it was announced where he went on about how the Wii was about 'We' and the U was about 'You' while showing off the Miiverse. I might be completely off base, but I'm pretty sure it's a reference to it's tolerable-by-console-standards internet connectivity. I don't think it was Reggie but you are spot on here. It was at the very first reveal where they only showed the tablet controller and name. Wii was about group play and families so it was renamed to Wii because We play together. The Wii U is designed for personal experiences and hardcore gamers or You. You can still play as a group so We You / Wii U. You know like a siren. Even then people thought the controller might also be the system and the console itself was seen in a background shot of a separate promo video. What a bad introduction.
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Aug 9, 2013 08:00
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Wouldn't it be funny if nintendo actually made a pokemon mmo like everyone and their dog has been asking for decades, and it didn't turn out as cool as the idea was made to sound?
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Aug 9, 2013 08:03
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Ka0 posted:Wouldn't it be funny if nintendo actually made a pokemon mmo like everyone and their dog has been asking for decades, and it didn't turn out as cool as the idea was made to sound? It will never be as good as anyone would imagine it, especially if it is Nintendo's first MMO. Maybe they could get some outside help and it could be as good as Dragon Quest X or Monster Hunter 3 #20. There is always Pokemon Rumble and Tretta until then. Pokemon Snap 2 please. Let me use the tablet as a camera.
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Aug 9, 2013 08:08
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Ka0 posted:Wouldn't it be funny if nintendo actually made a pokemon mmo like everyone and their dog has been asking for decades, and it didn't turn out as cool as the idea was made to sound? Whether it succeeds or fails, the results would be spectacular. 
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Aug 9, 2013 08:10
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I remember arguing in the e3 thread because of how bad of a job Nintendo did. They really came off as "Here's a New tablet controller called the Wii U!" They didn't show the console in the video and everyone was like "Wait what" immediately after. Nintendo is also not going to rebrand it. Just leave that idea. They have too much "pride" to make that big of a change.
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Aug 9, 2013 12:07
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It seems outrageous that Nintendo would rename the system. What precedent is there for something like that?
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Aug 9, 2013 12:31
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Sir John Feelgood posted:It seems outrageous that Nintendo would rename the system. What precedent is there for something like that? The PlayStation 3's rebranding to PS3, I guess. This was when they brought out the Slim model, and changed the logo, name, and advertising campaign to try and disassociate itself from the negative press it got when it was released.
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Aug 9, 2013 12:42
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NESguerilla posted:I'd be willing to bet it was a sad attempt at milking Apples success in giving devices really stupid names and making bank off of it, despite whatever Reggie says. But even Apple numbers their devices e.g. iPhone 5, iPad 2
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Aug 9, 2013 12:48
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That loving Sned posted:The PlayStation 3's rebranding to PS3, I guess. This was when they brought out the Slim model, and changed the logo, name, and advertising campaign to try and disassociate itself from the negative press it got when it was released. That's really not a rebranding though. PS2 was established as a synonym years before it.
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Aug 9, 2013 12:51
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The Dave posted:That's really not a rebranding though. PS2 was established as a synonym years before it. They went as far as changing the "frame" on the PS3 game boxarts though, you gotta admit that's pretty huge. And PS2 was never printed on anything Sony produced.
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Aug 9, 2013 12:53
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Do I? Because I don't feel so. When people say rebrand the Wii U were talking brand new name and everything. Also as Sony moved to PS3 didn't all their TV spots still say "Playstation" ?
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Aug 9, 2013 12:55
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Katana Gomai posted:They went as far as changing the "frame" on the PS3 game boxarts though, you gotta admit that's pretty huge. And PS2 was never printed on anything Sony produced. Errr... 
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Aug 9, 2013 12:59
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The Dave posted:Do I? Because I don't feel so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ONtyilKg8Q "Only on PS3." If you're going to be snarky, at least be correct. Magic Mango posted:Errr... OK, that was pretty dumb, although it does say "Playstation 2" under it, and I think everywhere else they used the stylized logo, too. vvv Whatever you want to call it I guess. vvv Katana Gomai fucked around with this message at 13:03 on Aug 9, 2013 |
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Aug 9, 2013 13:00
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Katana Gomai posted:They went as far as changing the "frame" on the PS3 game boxarts though, you gotta admit that's pretty huge. And PS2 was never printed on anything Sony produced. That's not really a rebrand so much as it is Sony going back to a more consistent font for the brand.
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Aug 9, 2013 13:01
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Nintendo is pretty stubborn, they're not gonna change the name now. Even though Wii2 is really all they would need to change it to.
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Aug 9, 2013 13:04
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Macaluso posted:Nintendo is pretty stubborn, they're not gonna change the name now. Even though Wii2 is really all they would need to change it to. Couldn't hurt to try even though I think at this point it would lead to more confusion.
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Aug 9, 2013 13:10
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The only good time to change the name was e3 2012. It's far too late for that now. They can eliminate confusion by building the WiiU into a handheld, combining it with the 3DS brand, and call it the 3DUS, and them there will be no confusion. Just make sure to have two packages, one that looks exactly like a Wii, and one that looks exactly like a 3DS.
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Aug 9, 2013 13:11
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Soul Glo posted:The same reason they didn't just make a machine with modern components and a normal controller. Was this the right decision? That's worth arguing. But it's not as if Nintendo is being managed by total idiots. Institutional stubbornness is the bigger issue at hand rather than laziness or incompetence.
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Aug 9, 2013 13:20
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NESguerilla posted:Seriously how do you gently caress up a system launch to a point where almost no one knows it's a new system? How did that even come to be? This is not a problem self contained to the Wii U, you see this all the time. How many times have you rented a Bluray disc and gotten the warnings about it not working in a regular DVD player? I've seen it on pretty much every Redbox machine, and at my local video store (when it was still around...) they'd be required to ask you every time you rented a Bluray. And it has a totally unique and different name, with a different sized box with a blue case! Same thing happened with the 360 and 3DS during the first year.
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Aug 9, 2013 13:32
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Strange Matter posted:They didn't make a machine with modern components because it would have cost too much money; as a consequence they created the Gamepad in order to make their system unique compared to the more powerful upcoming consoles. So instead they make a machine with hardware that's already outdated with a Gamepad that serves no purpose other than to jack up the price of the whole system to a laughable point. As far as i'm concerned, Nintendo's "institutional stubbornness" is just a nice way to say idiocy. Nintendo refuses to acknowledge or admit that the expectations of the gamer has changed, and as long as they keep making business decisions with the mindset that either we don't matter or that we'll happily eat garbage because it has a Nintendo logo on it, they're eventually going to destroy themselves.
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Aug 9, 2013 13:36
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Katana Gomai posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ONtyilKg8Q "Only on PS3." If you're going to be snarky, at least be correct. I was thinking of the "it does ____" commercials. Wasn't really being snarky, I just don't see the whole thing as "rebranding" unless they 100% scrubbed "Playstation" from everything and you never heard them say it again. I think the PS3 stuff was just a creative teams take on a new campaign.
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Aug 9, 2013 13:36
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Astro7x posted:This is not a problem self contained to the Wii U, you see this all the time. How many times have you rented a Bluray disc and gotten the warnings about it not working in a regular DVD player? I've seen it on pretty much every Redbox machine, and at my local video store (when it was still around...) they'd be required to ask you every time you rented a Bluray. And it has a totally unique and different name, with a different sized box with a blue case! I dunno, they're called Blu-rays, not "DVD U"s. More of the blame falls on Nintendo in this case.
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Aug 9, 2013 13:40
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illcendiary posted:I dunno, they're called Blu-rays, not "DVD U"s. More of the blame falls on Nintendo in this case. Oh man if HD-DVD won the format war...
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Aug 9, 2013 14:02
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illcendiary posted:I dunno, they're called Blu-rays, not "DVD U"s. More of the blame falls on Nintendo in this case. If they called the system the "Nintendo Brand New Console" people would still make the mistake because they are idiots. Though imagine the mass confusion 6 years from now...
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Aug 9, 2013 14:06
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Is the problem letters vs. numbers? I don't think people had a problem confusing the PlayStation with the PlayStation 2 or the Xbox with the Xbox 360. What is it about the Wii and the Wii U that's so incredibly confusing to people?
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Aug 9, 2013 14:07
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I wonder if its an issue where in Japanese adding a character or symbol to a word can vastly change it's meaning, but in English not so much. I don't know anything about Japanese just some rudimentary Korean.
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Aug 9, 2013 14:11
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The Dave posted:I was thinking of the "it does ____" commercials. Wasn't really being snarky, I just don't see the whole thing as "rebranding" unless they 100% scrubbed "Playstation" from everything and you never heard them say it again. I think the PS3 stuff was just a creative teams take on a new campaign. Yeah they also say "Playstation" several times in all those commercials. The PS3 was a subtle "rebrand" if you can even call it that, it was more like a new logo and ad campaign. but the Wii U has been so misunderstood it might require something more drastic. The system hardware design itself would be a good start as it looks so much like the Wii that might be where a lot of the confusion is coming from.
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Aug 9, 2013 14:20
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