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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Hm...the SR4 inauguration station AND SR3 are both crashing on startup now. SR3 was working just last week.

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Rei_
May 16, 2004

The difference between confinement and rest is a shift in perspective

Common Sensei posted:

So there has just been a pretty major update to the steam page for Saints Row IV.

Not only is the metacritic score displayed and the Season Pass available, but the countdown appears to have been changed. It is showing three days and three hours for me right now, which would put the game's EST release at midnight rather than the previous 3:00am.

Is anyone else getting the same countdown? If so I am very excited because a midnight release makes it far more practical to start playing Monday night, and will make it feel like the game is coming out a full day earlier.

Nah, same for me.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
I have seen that with other releases, only for me I get to play the day before, at 9pm.

West side, bitches. The superior time zone. :smug:

Jokymi
Jan 31, 2003

Sweet Sassy Molassy

Common Sensei posted:

So there has just been a pretty major update to the steam page for Saints Row IV.

Not only is the metacritic score displayed and the Season Pass available, but the countdown appears to have been changed. It is showing three days and three hours for me right now, which would put the game's EST release at midnight rather than the previous 3:00am.

Is anyone else getting the same countdown? If so I am very excited because a midnight release makes it far more practical to start playing Monday night, and will make it feel like the game is coming out a full day earlier.
I'm seeing the same thing. I'm in MST, which would end the countdown at 10 PM. It even says 'Available: August 19th, 2013'.

That's pretty awesome.

mania
Sep 9, 2004

Common Sensei posted:

So there has just been a pretty major update to the steam page for Saints Row IV.

Not only is the metacritic score displayed and the Season Pass available, but the countdown appears to have been changed. It is showing three days and three hours for me right now, which would put the game's EST release at midnight rather than the previous 3:00am.

Is anyone else getting the same countdown? If so I am very excited because a midnight release makes it far more practical to start playing Monday night, and will make it feel like the game is coming out a full day earlier.

Non US goon here and I'm using the trick that forces steam to the US store and I'm seeing the same thing. Which is awesome since I have the day off and now I can play it at noon instead of halfway through the day.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Klyith posted:

I'm not sure how you can get Hollywood Hulk Hogan and make a boring wrestler

Because they got 21st century Hollywood Hulk Hogan.

Shindragon
Jun 6, 2011

by Athanatos

Aphrodite posted:

Because they got 21st century Hollywood Hulk Hogan.

Pretty much. They got basically TNA hogan. Not 80s hogan.

At least RVD was a blast. He was pretty hilarious for SERC.

Shindragon fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Aug 17, 2013

CHUMPVILLE
Feb 25, 2006
YOUR FAVOURITE
Is anyone in America ordering the Commander in Chief edition? I'm in Australia and really interested in the bonus stuff from the Dangerous Wub Wub edition EXCEPT for the game itself, specifically the Dub Step Gun Replica and that other crazy crap. I'd be happy to pay the difference to get that stuff, plus the shipping to get it to me...

Dr. Abysmal
Feb 17, 2010

We're all doomed
Even if you had prime Hogan, Angel was still written to be a somber mentor character and rendered completely forgettable as a result. Killbane was more of a Hulk Hogan personality than the character that Hogan actually voiced.

Also Sasha Grey sounded like she would rather be anywhere else but Tera Patrick's performance in that SR2 DLC made her sound like Jennifer Hale in comparison.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Are there any little changes to the game mechanics in 4 versus 3? The aiming in 3 always seemed oddly off to me (not as much as 2 though) and jumping gets all weird sometimes.

I'm gradually being swayed over to wanting it on day one, now. 3 ultimately disappointed me but it still kept me playing for a good long time. And I love how my boss looks.

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Aug 17, 2013

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Oh, by the way, I'm having trouble with the community site, and its functions inside of SR3 and the Inauguration Station (which is now not crashing for some reason). It says "found an account associated with your steam account", which is expected, and I put in my password which is documented from last time and...nothing. I ask for a password email and never got it. Any ideas?

edit: also it won't let me change that username, for the purpose of starting a new account, not inside the game anyway. Any idea where that info is stored?

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Aug 17, 2013

Tortolia
Dec 29, 2005

Hindustan Electronics Employee of the Month, July 2008
Grimey Drawer
Just found out I am getting SR4 as a slightly belated birthday gift for PS3. This obviously means I will play through it, wait until the winter steam sale, buy SR4 PC for like 50% off and then enjoy the fruits of 4 months of modding time. :toot:

Can't wait! I'll have to see how well it actually performs on my PS3 versus what the reviewers are saying.

Zaa Boogie
Sep 13, 2007

"Suckle on this receptacle!"

Samurai Sanders posted:

Oh, by the way, I'm having trouble with the community site, and its functions inside of SR3 and the Inauguration Station (which is now not crashing for some reason). It says "found an account associated with your steam account", which is expected, and I put in my password which is documented from last time and...nothing. I ask for a password email and never got it. Any ideas?

edit: also it won't let me change that username, for the purpose of starting a new account, not inside the game anyway. Any idea where that info is stored?

"If you run into account problems on our website or Inauguration Station: send your username/registered email to saintaccount@deepsilver.com"

I did that and they got me sorted pretty quick.

Come oooooon, Green Man Gaming. I want my code so I can preload!

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Zaa Boogie posted:

"If you run into account problems on our website or Inauguration Station: send your username/registered email to saintaccount@deepsilver.com"
The problem is, I guess I don't know what the email is, since like I said I entered my username and it never sent me an email.


...and then I registered a new account with my current email just to check if it was that, it let me make a new account. Hence the question about whether I can change its associated username in the game.

edit: now it won't let me log into the website with that username either. Come to think of it, I think I remember these kinds of problems from when SR3 launched...

Rocketlex
Oct 21, 2008

The Manliest Knight
in Caketown
All these horror stories about how badly SR4 supposedly runs on consoles doesn't phase me. I played Saints Row 2 on PC, and I did it without installing the mods that make it not run like rear end. And I used the keyboard controls.

So long as SR4 runs better than that, I'm fine.

The Mimic
Apr 27, 2009

Rocketlex posted:

All these horror stories about how badly SR4 supposedly runs on consoles doesn't phase me. I played Saints Row 2 on PC, and I did it without installing the mods that make it not run like rear end. And I used the keyboard controls.

So long as SR4 runs better than that, I'm fine.

A trooper stands before us. I played SR2 on PC after playing it on the xbox and it was almost unbearable. I still beat it (again) but it was a thoroughly less enjoyable experience. I hope my 5850 gets along well with the PC version. ATi cards are weird.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Dr. Abysmal posted:

Even if you had prime Hogan, Angel was still written to be a somber mentor character and rendered completely forgettable as a result. Killbane was more of a Hulk Hogan personality than the character that Hogan actually voiced.

Yeah, I remember when I was first playing SRTT and vaguely remembered Hogan was in it, I thought he had to be the super-bombastic wrestler with a penchant for showmanship. It was almost surreal when I found out he played Angel.

Dr. Abysmal posted:

Also Sasha Grey sounded like she would rather be anywhere else but Tera Patrick's performance in that SR2 DLC made her sound like Jennifer Hale in comparison.

Sasha Grey has always had the flat, utterly bored voice though, from live-acting in Entourage to voice-acting in SRTT, and even when absolutely horrible things were being done to her in pornography. Same cadence, same seeming disinterest in anything and everything that was happening.

But yeah, you could've pretty much cut either her or Zimos out and little would have changed. For what it's worth I liked Zimos though, or at least his concept; an auto-tuned pimp that had been turned into a bondage pony-boy that culminates in him being your escape vehicle was probably the zenith of the series' surreality, though I would love it if SRIV topped it :allears:

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Honestly, if you asked me, Killbane killed the wrong DeWinter.

If you want to have a celebrity voice a character, write for them instead of trying to mold them into your writing. If you're hellbent on having Sasha Grey voice a character then write her as a Mentat, a human computer void of emotion. A pure logic machine.

chiefnewo
May 21, 2007

Croccers posted:

You could always try jumping onto a VPN to start the preload then switch back once it's started, Steam should continue the download. I've done that with a few titles.

This worked, thanks for suggesting it.

Rocketlex
Oct 21, 2008

The Manliest Knight
in Caketown

Wolfsheim posted:

But yeah, you could've pretty much cut either her or Zimos out and little would have changed. For what it's worth I liked Zimos though, or at least his concept; an auto-tuned pimp that had been turned into a bondage pony-boy that culminates in him being your escape vehicle was probably the zenith of the series' surreality, though I would love it if SRIV topped it :allears:

I maintain the reason Zimos doesn't have a role in the final mission of SR3 is so you'd have someone you could call in as backup at a properly dramatic moment (like I did).

Cape Cod Crab Chip
Feb 20, 2011

Now you don't have to suck meat from an exoskeleton!

Samurai Sanders posted:

The problem is, I guess I don't know what the email is, since like I said I entered my username and it never sent me an email.


...and then I registered a new account with my current email just to check if it was that, it let me make a new account. Hence the question about whether I can change its associated username in the game.

edit: now it won't let me log into the website with that username either. Come to think of it, I think I remember these kinds of problems from when SR3 launched...

Yeah, that happened to me too. Like the guy said earlier, send an email to saintaccount@deepsilver.com and give it a shot anyway. When I did, they asked me for the email address the account was tied to and my DOB, and it turned out that I had used one of my regular accounts (as I thought) but it wasn't sending me an email password reset. Worst case scenario, you explain that you forgot which email address it was exactly and you try to hash something out with them.

Kuso Meriken
Jun 30, 2007

Jygallax posted:

Is there an article or blog or something somewhere where you learned this stuff? I think this this sort of thing is super interesting and would love to read about all the different concepts they considered while designing the game.

I'm in the same boat, would love to know the story. I've tried googling and come up short.

PunkBoy
Aug 22, 2008

You wanna get through this?

Samurai Sanders posted:

The problem is, I guess I don't know what the email is, since like I said I entered my username and it never sent me an email.


...and then I registered a new account with my current email just to check if it was that, it let me make a new account. Hence the question about whether I can change its associated username in the game.

edit: now it won't let me log into the website with that username either. Come to think of it, I think I remember these kinds of problems from when SR3 launched...

Honestly, shoot them an e-mail anyway. I had a problem where I couldn't remember any details about an old Saints Row account besides the user name, and the support was able to help me out. Worst comes to worst they can delete any old accounts and you can start fresh.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Yeah, I did, but I hope they can understand my problem from the email because I don't really understand myself, its like fifteen things went wrong or unknown at once + I don't really remember what my account was like back when I was playing SR3.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Jygallax posted:

Is there an article or blog or something somewhere where you learned this stuff? I think this this sort of thing is super interesting and would love to read about all the different concepts they considered while designing the game.

Kuso Meriken posted:

I'm in the same boat, would love to know the story. I've tried googling and come up short.

There's a surprisingly in-depth wikia for the whole series. I happened on it when I was first playing SR3 to look up stats of the vehicles, trying to find the best 4-door car, and recently was reading stuff about 1 & 2 for the backstory that will be in IV. The stuff about the sisters and the old fourth faction is taken from posts by Steve Jaros on the SR official forums (all of which are giving me a 500 poo poo's hosed error when I try to look at the originals now).

Suben
Jul 1, 2007

In 1985 Dr. Strange makes a rap album.
So one thing I've been wondering: what is it about Fuzz that apparently makes it such a pain in the rear end to program/add for SR3 and SR4 that wasn't a problem for SR2, new system or no? It's the best activity in the series and it sucks it's only in one game (even if it's the best game) while Mayhem continues to exist.

Clitch
Feb 26, 2002

I lived through
Donald Trump's presidency
and all I got was
this lousy virus
While we're talking about awesome things Volition does, Steam has the Red Faction series 80% off this weekend.

Rocketlex
Oct 21, 2008

The Manliest Knight
in Caketown

Suben posted:

So one thing I've been wondering: what is it about Fuzz that apparently makes it such a pain in the rear end to program/add for SR3 and SR4 that wasn't a problem for SR2, new system or no? It's the best activity in the series and it sucks it's only in one game (even if it's the best game) while Mayhem continues to exist.

Part of it is that the way weapons work in SR3/SR4 is different. Fuzz relied on your character being forced to improvise when handed random weapons, whereas starting in SR3 you have a fixed inventory. To get the same effect, the game would have to randomly lock-out your weapons or something, and that's a lot less fun, though I guess Reality Climax kind of does that.

It was also a mission type that relied entirely on combat challenges, with no secondary lose condition like a time-limit or escort. The only way you were going to lose was if Boss died, and that was fine in SR2. However in SR3 this would mean that once you unlocked the top tier of upgrades and became immune to damage, Fuzz missions would become impossible to lose (unless something really crazy happened).

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Rei_ posted:

The boss is really more anti-authoritarian than anything, like a fun-loving Robin Hood with no sense of collateral damage.
A puckish rogue, you might say

nekoxid
Mar 17, 2009

Samurai Sanders posted:

Yeah, I did, but I hope they can understand my problem from the email because I don't really understand myself, its like fifteen things went wrong or unknown at once + I don't really remember what my account was like back when I was playing SR3.

When I bought the game I was stupid enough to I use a throwaway email, and a password I already forgot by the time Inauguration Station was out. And they still managed to help me (and get back my account). So I'm sure they can help you too.

Orv
May 4, 2011
Is the SR3 boss import going to require their online system or will it be a purely local thing?

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Rocketlex posted:

It was also a mission type that relied entirely on combat challenges, with no secondary lose condition like a time-limit or escort. The only way you were going to lose was if Boss died, and that was fine in SR2. However in SR3 this would mean that once you unlocked the top tier of upgrades and became immune to damage, Fuzz missions would become impossible to lose (unless something really crazy happened).

FUZZ had a time limit.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.

Orv posted:

Is the SR3 boss import going to require their online system or will it be a purely local thing?

It uses the online system. You're not really 'importing' so much as 'downloading'.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Kelp Plankton posted:

It uses the online system. You're not really 'importing' so much as 'downloading'.

Welp, time to figure out if I ever made an account for that thing.

Rocketlex
Oct 21, 2008

The Manliest Knight
in Caketown

Cleretic posted:

FUZZ had a time limit.

Oh, huh.

Well, it might have been the weapon thing, then.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
I just realized that I still haven't completed SRTT yet, despite intending to.

gently caress

WarLocke
Jun 6, 2004

You are being watched. :allears:

Unlucky7 posted:

I just realized that I still haven't completed SRTT yet, despite intending to.

gently caress

It could be worse, Rookersh could just have convinced you to play through SR2 before SR3 before SR4. :downs:

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Rocketlex posted:

Part of it is that the way weapons work in SR3/SR4 is different. Fuzz relied on your character being forced to improvise when handed random weapons, whereas starting in SR3 you have a fixed inventory. To get the same effect, the game would have to randomly lock-out your weapons or something, and that's a lot less fun, though I guess Reality Climax kind of does that.

Don't all the trafficking activities in SRTT do this as well? I think they even change your weapons, I vaguely remember my pistol getting switched from the white one to the police one.

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


Wolfsheim posted:

Don't all the trafficking activities in SRTT do this as well? I think they even change your weapons, I vaguely remember my pistol getting switched from the white one to the police one.

Yep. I think the issue was more that FUZZ was a pain in the rear end to program for SR2 so they didn't bother trying to devote that much attention to it in SRTT.

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Sighence
Aug 26, 2009

Rocketlex posted:

All these horror stories about how badly SR4 supposedly runs on consoles doesn't phase me. I played Saints Row 2 on PC, and I did it without installing the mods that make it not run like rear end. And I used the keyboard controls.

So long as SR4 runs better than that, I'm fine.

'sup unmodded SR2 buddy.

Are we confirmed for a 9PM PST release? Last Amazon had it, it was at midnight.

e: oh now store page loads, looks like we are. :toot:

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