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Ogantai
Apr 21, 2003

Full of bologna

Lawman 0 posted:

It might be banned/non-existent on a per province level.
Nope, it's just wrong. Kalimantan is blue on the map, but has McD's. Same for Sulawesi.

Edit: Sabah and Sarawak are part of Malaysia, but are blue on that map. Both have McDonald's.

Ogantai fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Aug 21, 2013

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Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

GreenCard78 posted:

I really don't think that is accurate. One of my best friends is Bolivian and I'm pretty certain when he visits, McDonald's is his go to place in order to get away from Bolivian food because it's one of the few American places there.

I don't want to call your friend a liar but according to Wikipedia Bolivia is one of the few places on earth that McDonald's failed in.
Here.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

I don't know what the rules for starting a franchise in other countries is but in the US you need to upfront the 750,000k costs yourself and can not take out loans to do so. Presumably theres a bit more leeway in somewhere like Nairobi but for a product without any real market penetration or cultural cache it's probably a tough sell to businesspeople of in other countries.

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

"A Big, Beautiful Midcentury Map Celebrating American Folklore"

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_vault/2013/08/21/william_gropper_his_mid_century_map_of_american_folklore.html

Elim Garak
Aug 5, 2010


Interesting, I've never heard of the guy riding a cod that's leaping over the place of my birth, Bowleg Bill.

PrinceRandom
Feb 26, 2013


Deadwood Dick.

Yes, that's all there is to say and yes I am a child.

A Dapper Man
Apr 7, 2007

Sometimes, I just like to kick it freestyle.

Famous winds of Michigan? I did not know we had famous winds. Unless they mean the wind at the Mackinac Bridge.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Why is Sal of the Erie Canal in Canada?

PrinceRandom
Feb 26, 2013

Technocrat posted:



I'll be honest, I'm relieved that the UK didn't come second in this one.

I remember visiting Venice a couple of years ago. There's only one branch of McDonalds in the entire city, but on every bloody street there's a sign saying "This way to the only McDonalds in Venice!"

Here's the Wikipedia map of McDonalds introductions internationally.



Edit: Since this map was made Bosnia, Armenia and Trinidad/Tobago have joined the McD's rank, with Vietnam set to open one in 2014.

PrinceRandom fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Aug 22, 2013

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
I know it's not a country but Corsica has no McDonald's.

PoizenJam
Dec 2, 2006

Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!
I'm surprised McDonald's would ever close down in a country. For a brand that's ubiquitous with the spread of fast food chains, you'd think they'd subsidize struggling McDonald's, particularly if it was the only one left in a country. I mean, the brand presence means a lot, and they're continuing to spread and achieve market penetration, so you'd think the sheer advertising value of one or two McDonald's in a country would be worth it. Not to mention, with greater spread and market penetration, things like 'logistically difficult and expensive to ship to and maintain' are only temporary issues, right?

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

Kurtofan posted:

I know it's not a country but Corsica has no McDonald's.
It also doesn't belong to Italy.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

A McDonalds actually went out of business by my house, it was like the first time it ever happened in the region. It was right by a highschool too, but there were too many good local little restaurants and they couldn't compete. Why spend like $6 on a lovely burger when the same money gets you a sushi lunch combo or some decent italian ?

Soviet Commubot
Oct 22, 2008


HookShot posted:

It also doesn't belong to Italy.


If you're referring to this map:


You might be looking at Sardinia, Corsica is the same color as the rest of France.

edit: Sorry, quoted the wrong guy.

Soviet Commubot fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Aug 22, 2013

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

Soviet Commubot posted:

If you're referring to this map:


You might be looking at Sardinia, Corsica is the same color as the rest of France.

edit: Sorry, quoted the wrong guy.
Ugh, you're right, sorry, I wasn't wearing my glasses this morning and mixed them up :downs:

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

Baronjutter posted:

A McDonalds actually went out of business by my house, it was like the first time it ever happened in the region. It was right by a highschool too, but there were too many good local little restaurants and they couldn't compete. Why spend like $6 on a lovely burger when the same money gets you a sushi lunch combo or some decent italian ?

That happened near me, too. It wasn't near a highschool or anything, but smack dab in the middle of our downtown pedestrian mall area. Food carts, small local places, etc... were better, and similar price or maybe a tad more, but worth it for orders of magnitude better quality. The building the McD's is in is now a sort of mid-upscale "farm to table" and craft brew place called The Farmhouse. HUGE beer selection.

And when that closed a few years ago, it meant that technically the largest city in Vermont does not have a McDonald's. It is a bit of a technicality, since although Burlington has no McD's, there are three in South Burlington.

We are also the only state with no McD's in our state capital.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
Well Montpelier is by far the smallest state capitol.

GreenCard78
Apr 25, 2005

It's all in the game, yo.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
Why did Chile and Argentina choose the time zones they're in?

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

HookShot posted:

Why did Chile and Argentina choose the time zones they're in?

Their main trading partners were probably in the timezone they eventually chose.

The real fun timezone is Nepal, because they're shifted just so you know you're not in India anymore.

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

HookShot posted:

Why did Chile and Argentina choose the time zones they're in?

I guess its yet another way for countries to show how much they dislike each other.

Captain Frigate
Apr 30, 2007

you cant have it, you dont have nuff teef to chew it
Are there any effects at all due to all of China having the same time zone? I mean besides the obvious of sunrise/sunset being at dramatically different times on different sides of China.

John Nance Garner
Aug 16, 2012

Bring your bourbon and cigars to the "Bureau of Education".

Captain Frigate posted:

Are there any effects at all due to all of China having the same time zone? I mean besides the obvious of sunrise/sunset being at dramatically different times on different sides of China.

The Chinese government doesn't care about the far western part of China

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
France was forced to switch to Central European Time during German occupation and hasn't switched back to its previous timezone (the same as UK) after the Liberation.

Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Aug 22, 2013

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Where's California and Turkey on this map?! Oh, thanks.

Also man.. fuckin' half hour time zones are so goofy. Aren't there movements at all to phase those out?

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



John Nance Garner posted:

The Chinese government doesn't care about the far western part of China

Well, for a certain value of "doesn't care". They sure as poo poo care if Tibet or Xinjiang try to do anything Beijing doesn't approve of, like being Tibetan or Uighur.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Mister Adequate posted:

Well, for a certain value of "doesn't care". They sure as poo poo care if Tibet or Xinjiang try to do anything Beijing doesn't approve of, like being Tibetan or Uighur.

Apparently there is an unofficial timezone recognized where everything just opens and closes 2 hours earlier than normal Beijing time.

Thorium Ninety
Apr 17, 2007
PACIFIST CRUSH!!!!

DrBouvenstein posted:

That happened near me, too. It wasn't near a highschool or anything, but smack dab in the middle of our downtown pedestrian mall area. Food carts, small local places, etc... were better, and similar price or maybe a tad more, but worth it for orders of magnitude better quality. The building the McD's is in is now a sort of mid-upscale "farm to table" and craft brew place called The Farmhouse. HUGE beer selection.

And when that closed a few years ago, it meant that technically the largest city in Vermont does not have a McDonald's. It is a bit of a technicality, since although Burlington has no McD's, there are three in South Burlington.

We are also the only state with no McD's in our state capital.

They tore one down around the corner from where I used to live. To be fair 3 people were brutally murdered there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_River_McDonald%27s_murders

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
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Kurtofan posted:

France was forced to switch to Central European Time during German occupation and hasn't switched back to its previous timezone (the same as UK) after the Liberation.

What's with Spain then?

PoizenJam
Dec 2, 2006

Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!

Baronjutter posted:

Also man.. fuckin' half hour time zones are so goofy. Aren't there movements at all to phase those out?

I live in one of the half-hour time zones, Newfoundland. We're a small province of 500k people who were deeply in the eastern half of the Atlantic Time Zone, near the border with the neighbouring timezone. At the time, we were an independent dominion (not yet part of Canada), so it was desirable to have a dominion-wide time zone. As we were a separate 'country', we retained the ability to adopt our own time zone. And since our capital lay squarely -3:30 from Greenwich, it made sense.

Today it's kind of retained for 2 reasons. Culturally it's a throwback to when we were an independent nation, and for tourism- we often promote events as happening here first; St. John's was the first city in North America to hit Y2K, or get midnight releases of anything from Harry Potter books to video games and movies.

So yeah I don't think we'll give it up anytime soon.

The Monkey Man
Jun 10, 2012

HERD U WERE TALKIN SHIT
That time zone map is out of date- Venezuela switched to GMT -4:30 a few years ago.

joshtothemaxx
Nov 17, 2008

I will have a whole army of zombies! A zombie Marine Corps, a zombie Navy Corps, zombie Space Cadets...

John Henry is a West Virginia legend. Don't take that from my adopted state :(

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Baronjutter posted:

Where's California and Turkey on this map?! Oh, thanks.

Also man.. fuckin' half hour time zones are so goofy. Aren't there movements at all to phase those out?
They've tried to fix the weird bit in the centre of Australia, but it keeps getting knocked back. It's been like that for a century though.

It gets much more confusing with DST.

Deep State of Mind
Jul 30, 2006

"It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."
Fun Shoe

Poizen Jam posted:

I'm surprised McDonald's would ever close down in a country. For a brand that's ubiquitous with the spread of fast food chains, you'd think they'd subsidize struggling McDonald's, particularly if it was the only one left in a country. I mean, the brand presence means a lot, and they're continuing to spread and achieve market penetration, so you'd think the sheer advertising value of one or two McDonald's in a country would be worth it. Not to mention, with greater spread and market penetration, things like 'logistically difficult and expensive to ship to and maintain' are only temporary issues, right?

McDonald's in most countries are owned by a single franchisee. And I think all McDonald'ses in the world are franchise owned. Are there any corporate-owned McDonald's?

Anyway, in weird countries they're always single franchisee for the whole country, which means it's a really rich guy (any female franchisees?) who could be subsidizing the thing himself anyway. But anyway the corporation can't subsidize a franchisee even if they wanted to, because franchise agreements need to have the same terms. You can't agree to subsidize one franchisee and not the others, and you can't stop a franchisee from closing down if he's losing too much money and decides to throw in the towel. All you can do is wait for another franchisee to come along.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Bloodnose posted:

McDonald's in most countries are owned by a single franchisee. And I think all McDonald'ses in the world are franchise owned. Are there any corporate-owned McDonald's?


Apparently about 15% of them are.

Pyromancer
Apr 29, 2011

This man must look upon the fire, smell of it, warm his hands by it, stare into its heart

Your map is pre-2010, Russia changed its timezones twice since then, got rid of those two bits near Samara and merged far east zones; and switched to permanent DST in second change and moved some more bits to/from Vladivostok time. Now there is no UTC+5 in Russia, 4 borders 6, far east is UTC+11 instead of 11 and 12.

E: this is still 1 change short of latest

Pyromancer fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Aug 23, 2013

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
You want to hear about stupid time zones look up Arziona. They are the only state in the Union not to observe Daylight Savings. The Navajo Nation does, however. Indiana was another weird one, originally on Central Time, most of the state eventually switched to Eastern. Some counties didn't observe daylight savings so Indiana ended up with 3 time zones: Eastern, Indiana Central, and Central. Finally the state told the Indiana Central time zone counties to pick Eastern or Central, almost all of them switched to Eastern.

edit: Looking it up on wiki, Hawaii also doesn't observe DST.

ulvir
Jan 2, 2005

Here's a political map. (source)


There's been a debate on and off since 2011 about wether or not we should lower the voting age to 16 in Norway.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

ulvir posted:

Here's a political map. (source)


There's been a debate on and off since 2011 about wether or not we should lower the voting age to 16 in Norway.

How did 18 become more or less standard as the age of majority around the world?

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Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.
What's with "none" in Mauritania and UAE? No doubt some horrible reason...

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