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At this point NJPW be considered the #2 wrestling promotion, world-wide at least? If not I can't imagine it being too far-behind from TNA.
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It's clearly #2 in the entire world, closer to WWE than it is to TNA.
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Aug 24, 2013 00:06
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NienNunb posted:At this point NJPW be considered the #2 wrestling promotion, world-wide at least? If not I can't imagine it being too far-behind from TNA. Without a doubt. TNA are a far #3, just because they're more well-known than any others.
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Aug 24, 2013 00:26
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New Japan has had more fans buy tickets to a single show than TNA has had for all their PPVs combined this year
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Skinty McEdger posted:The real answer is that it's all she has. She's never going to be given a position of real power or responsibility in her parents firm, and her PR company was a pretty significant failure propped up by Panda money. In TNA she has power and influence in her own little realm, has name recognition with a group of people she absolutely despises and even got had the opportunity to force herself into a hearing with congress (who didn't even want her there). Slink back into the bowels of hell from whence she came?  No but seriously this point is a pretty good point and I agree.
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NienNunb posted:At this point NJPW be considered the #2 wrestling promotion, world-wide at least? If not I can't imagine it being too far-behind from TNA. New Japan has been #2 in the world ever since NOAH fell apart in 2006. NJPW's closest competition for the #2 slot is from AAA. TNA is a solid #4 because every non NJPW puro promotion is falling apart and CMLL is only propped up by the fact they own their venues. I don't think you can make an argument TNA has ever been the #2 promotion on a worldwide basis.
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Aug 24, 2013 00:56
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I just realized why all this time I thought I knew who Dixie Carter was before she took over TNA; I was confusing her with the actress from Designing Women.
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Aug 24, 2013 01:14
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MassRafTer posted:New Japan has been #2 in the world ever since NOAH fell apart in 2006. NJPW's closest competition for the #2 slot is from AAA. TNA is a solid #4 because every non NJPW puro promotion is falling apart and CMLL is only propped up by the fact they own their venues. I don't think you can make an argument TNA has ever been the #2 promotion on a worldwide basis. I'd argue Dragon Gate over TNA for #4. It's not a large company by any means but it still sells out Korauken every month and has about 6 shows of 9,000+ sold each year. Definitely the #2 in Japan.
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Aug 24, 2013 02:44
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NotQuiteQuentin posted:I'd argue Dragon Gate over TNA for #4. It's not a large company by any means but it still sells out Korauken every month and has about 6 shows of 9,000+ sold each year. Definitely the #2 in Japan. TNA is drawing around 2,000 for each TV taping, plus their house shows and PPVs. They aren't peaking at 9K, but I think they do more at the gate and more on PPV than DG. Plus they have an international reach.
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Aug 24, 2013 02:46
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ABOUT DRUGS posted:Is there a reason that Bray Wyatt's finisher is called Sister Abigail? This question is from a while ago, but WWE didn't post this video until yesterday: http://www.wwe.com/videos/bray-wyatt-tells-the-tale-of-sister-abigail-26143801
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Aug 24, 2013 05:16
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Has TNA ever generated a profit for any fiscal year? I'd love to see how much money the company has lost over its entire history.
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Aug 24, 2013 05:50
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Tato posted:Has TNA ever generated a profit for any fiscal year? I'd love to see how much money the company has lost over its entire history. Dave heard from a friend of Bob Carter's that they had lost 45 million as of a few years ago so I imagine the number is now way over 60 million. As for a profit, Dixie swears they did in like 2008 but I doubt it.
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Wow. TNA has been incompetent dogshit for over a decade and still hasn't lost as much money as WCW managed to lose in a single year. 2000 WCW deserves a monument to its amazing achievement. I wish WWE was still into the "Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior" type of DVD releases, because once they inevitably buy the video library a "Worst of TNA" set sounds far more interesting to me than a "Best of TNA" set, which would just be a single DVD containing the original AJ/Daniels/Samoa Joe match and the segment with the masturbating midget. Tato fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Aug 24, 2013 |
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Aug 24, 2013 06:07
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Tato posted:Wow. TNA has been incompetent dogshit for over a decade and still hasn't lost as much money as WCW managed to lose in a single year. 2000 WCW deserves a monument to its amazing achievement. WCW's 2000 losses at least can be understood. If you take a look at the buyrate lists that were compiled in the WCW thread you get a rough idea of how fast WCW's income crashed. They were spending at the same level they were in 1998 when they made a record profit, but in the spring of 1999 their buyrates and house show gates vanished. Then in the fall of 99 Russo got Nitro scaled back to two hours and another chunk of money vanished. By 2001 they were done. TNA just keeps dragging on losing money... I can't understand it other than inertia.
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Bard Maddox posted:This question is from a while ago, but WWE didn't post this video until yesterday: Holy poo poo the Bray Wyatt character KEEPS GETTING CREEPIER 
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Whether you like Wyatt or not, you have to credit Windham Rotunda, the performer, on being so ridiculously INTO that character and selling the poo poo out of every facet of it. Even if he didn't wrestle, dude can act.
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Aug 24, 2013 07:48
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Bard Maddox posted:This question is from a while ago, but WWE didn't post this video until yesterday: I wish they would show this stuff on TV. I was super hyped for the debut of the Wyatt Family since I first saw them on NXT (hence the avatar). I'm a big fan of horror movies and creepy gimmicks in wrestling, but I've been disappointed in the Wyatts since they first appeared on Raw. All they've done are a few beat downs on Kane and generic "I"m the eater of worlds!" promos. If they would show promos like this and have Bray give more explanation and depth to his character it would be a lot more engaging.
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Aug 24, 2013 08:08
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With the talk of the #3 and lower worldwide promotions, what's going on with All Japan that it isn't even in consideration?
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They've been struggling for a long time and their new owner who complains about "fixed results", wants his guys to to MMA (this poo poo was disastrous for NJPW last decade), and is now booking himself to wrestle later this month without any experience or training doesn't seem to helping things. Keiji Mutoh lost a power struggle a few months ago with the new ownership and with a significant portion of their roster left to form a new promotion named Wrestle-1 which further hurt their roster depth and split their fanbase. Now they seem to be drawing even less then NOAH from reading the Observer results. Thauros fucked around with this message at 13:29 on Aug 24, 2013 |
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Aug 24, 2013 13:26
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Bard Maddox posted:This question is from a while ago, but WWE didn't post this video until yesterday: This is a vast improvement on his previous promos I've seen. It tells a mostly coherent story that you can follow and explains quite a bit about his character - and even about his finisher, a thing he actually does! Far better than his other rambling scripts, which could possibly have been more useful if anyone else took the time to actually deconstruct and/or confront them on the air.
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Time for a little goon detective work. OSWReview have been trying to track down Hogan's mystery belt, at the top of this picture. No-one seems to be able to identify which belt it is. The ones below are the ones we KNEW he wore. 
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Aug 24, 2013 15:03
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drat, I had no idea they went through so many different belts in the '80s before sticking with the Winged Eagle for so long.
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Basically pretend that the Carters are the Corleones and Dixie is Fredo. "We don't want you involved in the important poo poo that actually brings in money because, well, you're kinda stupid, so here's something to keep you busy."
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Karmine posted:Basically pretend that the Carters are the Corleones and Dixie is Fredo. When are the Carter's going to send Dixie out fishing?
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Aug 24, 2013 18:12
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I've always wondered, why is it called the "Winged Eagle" belt? Isn't that redundant? Eagles already have wings, and other belt designs with eagles on them also have wings, albeit less prominent ones. It's like calling the Divas title the Winged Butterfly belt.
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sticklefifer posted:I've always wondered, why is it called the "Winged Eagle" belt? Isn't that redundant? Eagles already have wings, and other belt designs with eagles on them also have wings, albeit less prominent ones. It's like calling the Divas title the Winged Butterfly belt. The wings are such a prominent feature of the belt they have to be part of the name. If the faceplate was flat/less textured it'd probably be called the Eagle Belt.
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sticklefifer posted:I've always wondered, why is it called the "Winged Eagle" belt? Isn't that redundant? Eagles already have wings, and other belt designs with eagles on them also have wings, albeit less prominent ones. It's like calling the Divas title the Winged Butterfly belt. I always figured that since the wings are so prominent and actually stick out from the belt then you can say that the belt itself is winged. It's a winged belt, an eagle belt, and so a winged eagle belt
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sticklefifer posted:I've always wondered, why is it called the "Winged Eagle" belt? Isn't that redundant? Eagles already have wings, and other belt designs with eagles on them also have wings, albeit less prominent ones. It's like calling the Divas title the Winged Butterfly belt. It's because the wings are prominent and spread. It would be more technically accurate to call it the Spread Eagle belt but we don't want to do that.
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sticklefifer posted:I've always wondered, why is it called the "Winged Eagle" belt? Isn't that redundant? Eagles already have wings, and other belt designs with eagles on them also have wings, albeit less prominent ones. It's like calling the Divas title the Winged Butterfly belt. We should be calling the Divas title the Demeaning Pink Butterfly Belt.
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Aug 24, 2013 23:00
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The design of the Divas belt is a goddamn abomination.
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That "86 belt" was used for more than one year. I do know for a fact it Hogan wore it to the ring during WM3 which was in 1987. I don't remember when the switch to the Winged Eagle belt took place. A part of me wants to say it was during the duel Hebner screw job angle, though I could be wrong.
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You're quite right. It made it's debut February 5th, 1988 but wasn't really worn until Randy Savage won it at WrestleMania 4.
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Thauros posted:They've been struggling for a long time and their new owner who complains about "fixed results", wants his guys to to MMA (this poo poo was disastrous for NJPW last decade), and is now booking himself to wrestle later this month without any experience or training doesn't seem to helping things.
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Bubba Grace posted:That "86 belt" was used for more than one year. I do know for a fact it Hogan wore it to the ring during WM3 which was in 1987. I don't remember when the switch to the Winged Eagle belt took place. A part of me wants to say it was during the duel Hebner screw job angle, though I could be wrong. yep it was exactly that night.
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I saw this mentioned in the carnies thread, but there didn't seem to be an explanation for it so I thought I'd ask here. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xrxfiy_jerry-lawler-ted-dibiase-maryse-and-michael-cole-segment-raw-1-31-2011_sport&start=282 Lawler straight up jacks DiBiase the Deuce during a segment with
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titties posted:I saw this mentioned in the carnies thread, but there didn't seem to be an explanation for it so I thought I'd ask here. Lawler is the king of punches, and even he couldn't make that punch look legit. It doesn't even look like it touched him.
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Sir Jebus posted:... he couldn't make that punch look legit. It doesn't even look like it touched him.  I disagree, it looks like it touched him to me.
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Sir Jebus posted:Lawler is the king of punches, and even he couldn't make that punch look legit. It doesn't even look like it touched him. He nailed the poo poo out of ted. That punch was beautiful.
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Aug 25, 2013 17:16
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Who threw the cans of booze at Stone Cold? I've always wondered how they managed to be so accurate with that.
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