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Do you guys come across a lot of flyers in your matches? I haven't played much since 6th edition, and I'm not sure how much AA I need to bring.
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Aug 26, 2013 01:39
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There's only 1 guy here who brings a flyer, everyone else only brings ground-pounders. I bring them occasionally with my IG, but never with my Dark Angels. The points are almost better just given up/away, rather than wasted on a DA flyer 
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Aug 26, 2013 01:41
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Mukip posted:Do you guys come across a lot of flyers in your matches? I haven't played much since 6th edition, and I'm not sure how much AA I need to bring. If you're building an all comers list I'd have something in mind for AA but don't overdo it. A quad gun, a flyer of your own even some autocannon dreads are good.
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Aug 26, 2013 02:03
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Icon Of Sin posted:There's only 1 guy here who brings a flyer, everyone else only brings ground-pounders. I bring them occasionally with my IG, but never with my Dark Angels. The points are almost better just given up/away, rather than wasted on a DA flyer This is unfortunately true. I don't think mine will ever leave my case. Flyers are much less common now that Tau have the capability of bringing so much skyfire and interceptor on the table. I still bring 3 scythes when I play my Necrons, but it's not nearly as powerful as it once was. If you are ever not sure, bring an Aegis. Don't forget that Interceptor works against any models that come in from reserve within range, not necessarily flyers only.
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Aug 26, 2013 02:04
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Zhent posted:Flyers are much less common now that Tau have the capability of bringing so much skyfire and interceptor on the table. I still bring 3 scythes when I play my Necrons, but it's not nearly as powerful as it once was. I think this is one of the greatest parts about Tau, they effect my games even when they're not in it!
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Aug 26, 2013 02:08
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Man I love plasma; I stick it in as many units in my UMs, IW and Guard. Who cares if you lose a guy or two, its not that likely to happen and in the case of marines, you have a good chance of not dieing. And if its a guardsmen? Who cares, its just a guardsmen.
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Aug 26, 2013 02:45
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TheChirurgeon posted:Finished my Decimator today. gently caress this thing is huge. Maaaan, I'd totally do a Night Lords army if I could paint lightning bolts with any skill  It's a toss-up between Night Lords and Black Legion (using the regular CSM book, screw the supplement). Your paint job might push me towards Night Lords 'cuz that's a sweet color scheme.
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Aug 26, 2013 03:15
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Lightning isn't too hard if you've got enough colours to build up with. Here's an example with lava I used for my Paladin's nemesis weapons, but the principle is the same. http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6438
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Aug 26, 2013 03:38
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It's more a lack of practice, and just never really 'getting' how lightning is supposed to look. Though I guess I could practice. ...hm. Maybe I could cheat using transfers.
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Aug 26, 2013 03:55
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Slimnoid posted:...hm. Maybe I could cheat using transfers. What? No man. Wikipedia lightning and practice on a piece of paper. Honestly, I think purple lightning would look really cool. Grab like three different colors of purple and then some light grey and then white and just make them increasingly smaller as you go inward. You don't even have to blend if you do it fine enough.
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Aug 26, 2013 04:00
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I'm painting a Ravenwing company banner and holy gently caress there's a ton of detail on it and what is this poo poo about doing it again on the other side  It's not done, but I'm almost done loving with it. Tabletop/3-foot test it'll be alright, up close will be borderline atrocious though.
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Aug 26, 2013 04:06
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I'll never not love this dude.
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Aug 26, 2013 04:15
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Mukip posted:Do you guys come across a lot of flyers in your matches? I haven't played much since 6th edition, and I'm not sure how much AA I need to bring. I too am getting back into it since 6 however I am building an all flying ig army. 3 valkyrie (one as a vendetta) with infantry squads and 2 vulture gunships. Command squad on the ground. Roughly 1k points.
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Aug 26, 2013 04:57
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I went to a doubles tournament about a month ago and of the six teams, mine was the only one without a single flyer. Today, I went into the same store, though didn't play, and I saw 0 flyers, but three Tau and two Eldar players out of seven players. I do enjoy the fast pace changing of the 40k meta, but it is a shame everyone seems to be flocking to the flavor of the month even more so now. Hope the SM and Nid codex are a hit so my Tau don't feel like the meta bully anymore.
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Aug 26, 2013 05:29
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The best thing is there will be a point where people go "no one takes flyers anymore!" and leaves their AA defenses at home, and then you come in with your squadron of Crimson Hunters.
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Aug 26, 2013 06:22
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Boon posted:The [Eldar] list I used was this: Forgive me, but why is the Banshee mask on an Autarch or Shining Spears now worth taking in 6th edition? The Autarch already has stupidly high initiative and grenades, and Shining Spears still don't have grenades, so what gives? Other than how great Spears are when you use them against targets in cover, that is (but an assault unit that is ruined by moving through a bit of cover is so worrisome that I sold them).
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Aug 26, 2013 06:38
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I really like all those covers except the Templars one, maybe I can't see it well but it just looks bland to me. Also Ultramarines chapter tactics look less broken now that it's only once per game.
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Aug 26, 2013 06:53
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Smegmalicious posted:I really like all those covers except the Templars one, maybe I can't see it well but it just looks bland to me. Also Ultramarines chapter tactics look less broken now that it's only once per game. Where's the Templars one?
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Aug 26, 2013 07:02
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Haven't seen it yet.
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Aug 26, 2013 07:11
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Is the blurry rear end black marine not an assault Templar?
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Aug 26, 2013 07:13
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Asphyxious posted:Where's the Templars one? Phyresis posted:
Smegmalicious posted:Is the blurry rear end black marine not an assault Templar? That's a Raven Guard. Or an Iron Hands. IDK which one you are referring to.
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Aug 26, 2013 07:17
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Phyresis posted:That's a Raven Guard. Or an Iron Hands. IDK which one you are referring to. See, now that might be worth $30. Edit: Though Templars are not supposed to have the Aquilla on their chests. We do not wear the symbol of the emperor, we are the symbol of the emperor! Smegmalicious fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Aug 26, 2013 |
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Aug 26, 2013 07:29
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Post 9-11 User posted:Forgive me, but why is the Banshee mask on an Autarch or Shining Spears now worth taking in 6th edition? The Autarch already has stupidly high initiative and grenades, and Shining Spears still don't have grenades, so what gives? Other than how great Spears are when you use them against targets in cover, that is (but an assault unit that is ruined by moving through a bit of cover is so worrisome that I sold them). Banshee Mask drops the initiative of the target unit now by five, I'm pretty sure. So even if your unit doesn't have grenades you'll strike simultaneously most of the time which is pretty important for Shining Spears. LordAba posted:Why do people treat White Scars as all bikers? In most official White Scar army shots they usually have a mix of bikers, droppods, and rhinos which compliment their "move fast" background. Unless the old fluff had them all bikers? It's true, they aren't all bikers but I think all bikes are pretty sweet and not everyone wants to be Raven Guard. Though taking a Rhino is always useful if you're time travelling back an edition and want to avoid :smugkroot:
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Aug 26, 2013 09:29
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Karandras posted:It's true, they aren't all bikers but I think all bikes are pretty sweet and not everyone wants to be Raven Guard. Though taking a Rhino is always useful if you're time travelling back an edition and want to avoid :smugkroot: That picture is still the best thing to come out of any tournament ever. Unfortunately you can only keep 50% of your army in reserve now so it can't ever happen again. 
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Aug 26, 2013 09:32
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Smegmalicious posted:See, now that might be worth $30. A full rulebook was worth $30 literally less than four years ago. Don't be a goddamn moron.
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Aug 26, 2013 09:35
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Safety Factor posted:That picture is still the best thing to come out of any tournament ever. Unfortunately you can only keep 50% of your army in reserve now so it can't ever happen again. If I was GW I would throw in loving stupid in-joke rules like filling your mandatory choices with Kroot allows your opponent to reserve more than 50%
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Aug 26, 2013 09:48
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Played as my friends Orks versus my Guard yesterday, excellent game. I lucked out with a 13" (red paint job) move, disembark, lucky 9" assault move into a contemptor dreadnought which was out of position and then a 6" consolidate to have the boss and mega armoured nobs in front of his lines turn 1, which basically caused it to collapse quickly as he couldn't muster enough shooting to take down targets reliably. Mortars and Grenade Launchers were surprisingly effective - peoples opinions on them? The Griffon looked interesting, as it rerolls scatter and basically ignores cover as a barrage weapon (originating from centre hole). He took mortars in the static command squads and they wracked up some decent kills, though ap6... When're the new marines officially announced? want to get my drop-pod on!
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Aug 26, 2013 10:01
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Fix posted:A full rulebook was worth $30 literally less than four years ago. Don't be a goddamn moron. He shouldn't be in this hobby then.
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Aug 26, 2013 10:01
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Lord Twisted posted:Played as my friends Orks versus my Guard yesterday, excellent game. I lucked out with a 13" (red paint job) move, disembark, lucky 9" assault move into a contemptor dreadnought which was out of position and then a 6" consolidate to have the boss and mega armoured nobs in front of his lines turn 1, which basically caused it to collapse quickly as he couldn't muster enough shooting to take down targets reliably. Mortars and grenade launchers are good against low save bunched up troops (Orks and Nids for example) but bounce off MEQs most of the time. They are however cheap, and you could potentially deploy a mortar squad miles away from anywhere, plink away at the enemy and see if you can peel an opposing unit out of position to go and deal with them.
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Aug 26, 2013 10:17
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Since I'm only doing Warhammer for the painting, not being interested in playing (yet), and since I wanted to know about the history: Is the mini-rule book adequate for this? Does it include the "fluff" (which is what I'm looking for)? EDIT: I mean, I assume this is what I'm talking about : 
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Aug 26, 2013 10:18
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Unfortunately it doesn't. It has a little tiny bit, but nothing close to the big rule book.
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Aug 26, 2013 10:44
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Big Willy Style posted:Unfortunately it doesn't. It has a little tiny bit, but nothing close to the big rule book. I looked up the mini rulebook, and it doesn't look like it has that cover. ...What am I buying? Is that the full book then?
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Aug 26, 2013 10:46
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Yeah, if you want the fluff and pretty pictures, get the hardback.
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Aug 26, 2013 10:49
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The picture you posted is of the mini-rulebook in the starter set. It's a soft back. The new mini-rulebook on the GW site is a hard back book and probably has the exact same content as the soft back from the starter. If you want the fluff section you want to get the full-sized rulebook. There isn't any other option for that. The book is massive and is full of pictures, artwork, and background information. It's also expensive.
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Aug 26, 2013 10:49
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Safety Factor posted:The picture you posted is of the mini-rulebook in the starter set. It's a soft back. The new mini-rulebook on the GW site is a hard back book and probably has the exact same content as the soft back from the starter. If you want the fluff section you want to get the full-sized rulebook. There isn't any other option for that. The book is massive and is full of pictures, artwork, and background information. It's also expensive. Well, at least I didn't waste my money on it. 
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Aug 26, 2013 11:03
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Just spend a shitton of time drilling down into http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page before you buy a $75 rulebook just to read the (probably same) fluff.
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Aug 26, 2013 11:03
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He could grab a 3rd edition rulebook for like 10 bucks shipped off Ebay. Those are packed full of fluff, though some of it's been retconned since.
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Aug 26, 2013 12:19
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Captain Invictus posted:He could grab a 3rd edition rulebook for like 10 bucks shipped off Ebay. Those are packed full of fluff, though some of it's been retconned since. Sorry for the ignorance (and for being annoying). Is the 5th edition any good on this issue? I found it for 16 bucks shipped so...
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Aug 26, 2013 12:58
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Non Serviam posted:Sorry for the ignorance (and for being annoying). Is the 5th edition any good on this issue? I found it for 16 bucks shipped so... totally, so long as it is the large, hard cover rulebook and not the soft covered small one.
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Aug 26, 2013 13:15
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Slimnoid posted:Maaaan, I'd totally do a Night Lords army if I could paint lightning bolts with any skill thiswayliesmadness posted:Lightning isn't too hard if you've got enough colours to build up with. Here's an example with lava I used for my Paladin's nemesis weapons, but the principle is the same. It's not that bad--I don't even build up. I start with a black basecoat, then I go over the model with Ultramarine/Altdorf Guard blue. After that I paint the Lightning bolts using a 10/0 brush with Skull white/White Scar. Then I start shading the areas around the Lightning Bolts with Drakenhof Nightshade, leaving some Altdorf Blue around the bolts and receding further with each layering. I usually do 3 layers of Nightshade, then do a final layer with Nuln Oil to get the darkest spots. If I want to add some blue to the tips of the bolts, I'll come back and cover those areas with Guilliman Blue glaze. I find that it's much faster to work this way than to layer up from black.
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