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hitension
Feb 14, 2005


Hey guys, I learned Chinese so that I can write shame in another language
Man, Meimei Guo is so 2011.
I think it turned out she wasn't directly affiliated with the Red Cross...
I am surprised every time corruption makes the news headlines in China. I mean, really? It's China. There's corruption.

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Deep State of Mind
Jul 30, 2006

"It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."
Fun Shoe
Taking money meant for disaster relief and sick people and given out of the kindness of others' hearts and using it to buy exorbitantly expensive luxury toys for a ditzy, barely 20-something bimbo mistress is a special kind of disgusting and egregious. It's different from/worse than taking tax money that, like you said, already has some expectation of being embezzled. I mean considering public sector salaries in China, there is basically a 'corruption allowance' to bring civil servants' pay up to something approaching private sector rates.

It also has that extra little spice of sex scandal to it that makes it so much more newsworthy. Remember this is Greater China where "this girl has big tits and exists" is a regular news story.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Bloodnose posted:

Remember this is Greater China where "this girl has big tits and exists" is a regular news story.

That's a regular story in Britain too if you read The Sun.

Deep State of Mind
Jul 30, 2006

"It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."
Fun Shoe
The Sun isn't quite on the same level as the People's Daily.

GuestBob
Nov 27, 2005

Just for everyone's listening pleasure, the World Service presenters seem to be having a competition to see how many vowels they can insert in the syllable "Bo". Yesterday someone managed two diphthongs before collapsing from verbal confusion.

Dr. Tough
Oct 22, 2007

Bloodnose posted:

The Sun isn't quite on the same level as the People's Daily.

This one is easily the most chortle worthy of the "beautiful female journalists at two sessions"

http://english.people.com.cn/102774/7750203.html

The Sun is on a different world (:downs:) compared to People's Daily. Also I noticed in a linked picture article that Chairman Mao's grandson appears to have been replaced with a sitcom character.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Listening to BBC Science Hour yesterday over lunch, heard a story about arsenic contamination mapping, and that it's particularly a problem in Asia... particularly China... particularly central Sichuan. Lunch ruined.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Dr. Tough posted:

This one is easily the most chortle worthy of the "beautiful female journalists at two sessions"

http://english.people.com.cn/102774/7750203.html

The Sun is on a different world (:downs:) compared to People's Daily. Also I noticed in a linked picture article that Chairman Mao's grandson appears to have been replaced with a sitcom character.

This article is really creepy

Wonton
Jul 5, 2012

Bloodnose posted:

The Sun isn't quite on the same level as the People's Daily.

The boobs stories are mostly on Apple Daily rather than People's Daily

GuestBob
Nov 27, 2005

MeramJert posted:

This article is really creepy

Aye maybe, this is China - the land that feminism forgot!

"Group wedding held to mark international women's day!"

http://english.people.com.cn/90882/7751200.html

:downs:

GuestBob fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Aug 26, 2013

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

hitension posted:

Man, Meimei Guo is so 2011.
I think it turned out she wasn't directly affiliated with the Red Cross...
I am surprised every time corruption makes the news headlines in China. I mean, really? It's China. There's corruption.

Dunno, in America "man shot and killed" is a news headline.

Deep State of Mind
Jul 30, 2006

"It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."
Fun Shoe
The government decided to help people living in subdivided apartments. They're giving each family of 3 or more HK$10,000. That's like US$1,250.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnuOv0e4xOQ

They're calling it a 'subsidy.' I don't know why. It feels more like "have a chunk of money all at once and don't bother us." It's not like a comprehensive social security thing that will subsidize them monthly to find better housing. What can you do with $1200 just handed to you at once?


In unrelated news here's an absolutely disgusting story of Indonesian maid abuse.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Has anybody heard anything about people in China who are being sent to prison for posting exaggerations about things on the internet? My ex told me that this happened to at least two different people, although she only provided specifics for one of them- a woman who posted about there being a huge flood somewhere in China and was subsequently put in jail for a couple of weeks for, as the state-run media said, "causing chaos in public."

On a related note, she thinks that this ties into the Bo Xilai trial- put enough people in jail for shitposting and they won't shitpost about the trial. That seems kind of cynical but it makes sense to me.

GuestBob
Nov 27, 2005

Y-Hat posted:

Has anybody heard anything about people in China who are being sent to prison for posting exaggerations about things on the internet?

Fxed that for you.

The Bo Xilai trial has been fairly well managed by the State actually - who have cut out the Chinese media (which is mostly just an echo chamber) and flooded the discourse with information of their own, information which may even be true. It's a bold strategy but one which has caught alot of people off guard. I think it hints at how solid Bo's support base was/is: anything to avoid him becoming a martyr of a show trial.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Bloodnose posted:

In unrelated news here's an absolutely disgusting story of Indonesian maid abuse.

The kids are going to be monsters.

Sogol
Apr 11, 2013

Galileo's Finger
Some friends of mine in Beijing are European-Chinese couple with three kids. Of course there kids have to deal immediately with all the issues of having siblings. I have thought a lot about the time when all the leaders in China have never had to deal nor gained the social skills associated with having siblings. It is like another Sparrow case of sweeping systemic change and unintended consequences on a massive scale.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Sogol posted:

I have thought a lot about the time when all the leaders in China have never had to deal nor gained the social skills associated with having siblings.

This would also explain why in every fight I've seen on the street in China they fought like pussies.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

VideoTapir posted:

This would also explain why in every fight I've seen on the street in China they fought like pussies.

That actually does explain a lot.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Maybe it's time for the south to rise. They never stopped having siblings down south.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008
Looks like the thread title been made into a comic, courtesy of the political cartoons thread.

Deep State of Mind
Jul 30, 2006

"It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."
Fun Shoe
Just gotta shop some baby formula in there.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Another inaccurate thing is that people usually don't carry around a roll of toilet paper, they carry around a little packet of tissues.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
But street making GBS threads is still a thing :china:

Pro-PRC Laowai
Sep 30, 2004

by toby

caberham posted:

But street making GBS threads is still a thing :china:

Next time I have an excuse to go to HK, imma take a big dump right in the middle of a subway car.

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

Pro-PRC Laowai posted:

Next time I have an excuse to go to HK, imma take a big dump right in the middle of a subway car.

That's mass transit making GBS threads, They do that in New York, nothing uncivilized or lesser world about it, you will just be assumed to be a crazy street person.

Pro-PRC Laowai
Sep 30, 2004

by toby

AtomikKrab posted:

That's mass transit making GBS threads, They do that in New York, nothing uncivilized or lesser world about it, you will just be assumed to be a crazy street person.

Gonna wear a nice suit and everything, and then stick a little british flag in it.

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

Pro-PRC Laowai posted:

Gonna wear a nice suit and everything, and then stick a little british flag in it.

Crazy

Street

Person.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
The one in the elevator gets me. She's so matter-of-fact about it and the guy just casually keeps the door closed. We had to make it God knows how many millenia into human development before we could invent something as amazing as the elevator to whisk you vertically through large structures and there she is, pooping in it like a cavewoman.

Maybe a good green initiative for China would be to grow banana trees everywhere for people to use the leaves to wipe with, depositing their fecal matter at the base of the tree where it composts inside the leaf and feeds the tree's growth. Cleaner air, eliminates waste and it's cheaper than pubic restrooms while offering some shade and natural beauty as you squat in public and drop a load in front of everyone.

Or maybe some wiseass in HK should grow a banana tree in a well-known mainlander destination and hang a sign on it that says "public toilet" in Chinese, with another sign pointing to the leaves saying, "wipe, please."

ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Aug 30, 2013

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
http://kingmandailyminer.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=57726&TM=8499.075

quote:

Kingman is one big metaphor for freedom, Chinese visitors learn


Kim Steele
Miner Staff Reporter


KINGMAN - For all the recent social, economic, educational and technological advances in China, those who know it well understand there's still something missing.

Complete freedom.

While the socialist-communist country is slowly changing, heavy restrictions still exist in many facets of life, including religion, reproductive rights, politics, social organizations, the press and travel. But as the government continues to loosen its tight grip on its 1.35 billion-plus residents, it has led some to look beyond their homeland for models of how to handle the blossoming liberties in the East Asian country.

One such entity is Shanghai General Motors, a jointly owned consortium of the Chinese government and General Motors. Last week, SGM's Cadillac Division flew 42 winners of a recent contest from China to Chicago, then on to Amarillo, Texas, where they picked up Cadillac vehicles loaned by General Motors in the U.S. so they could drive Route 66 to the Santa Monica Pier. The winners are owners of Cadillac SRX vehicles in China.

At their day-long stop in Kingman, the group toured the Powerhouse Visitor Center, ate lunch at Mr. D'z Route 66 Diner and visited Mother Road Harley-Davidson, where they took pictures with motorcycles and viewed a 1911 Cadillac owned by Kingmanite Bob Campbell. A total of 18 support staff trailed along with the group, including a crew filming Cadillac commercials for SGM.

Afterwards, they loaded up in their Cadillac caravan to spend the night in Laughlin before heading to California.

The winners came from throughout China, said Erica Su, marketing and promotion manager for SGM, and included lawyers, musicians, business owners and even an actress. Each winner, chosen from a field of about 2,000 participants, had to study books about General Motors, its Cadillac brand and Route 66. Su said the test was rigorous, similar to a college entrance examination.

"We are an American brand, and we want people in China to know about American culture," said Su. "Route 66 is the best road to experience that culture because it helped to develop America. There are so many stories on this road, and when our group sees that, they realize how different it is here from China. We tell them about freedom and the importance of respecting it, and that people can say what they want in America and aren't told what to speak. It really impresses them."

Fang Cai, a Canadian who was born in Beijing and splits his time between Toronto and his hometown, inspected motorcycles as he walked through the dealership. Cai, who was one of the contest winners, is a senior executive with Berg-Chilling, a company that manufactures cooling systems, and Toromont CAT, a Caterpillar heavy equipment dealer. Both are located in Canada and service China.

"I feel that the more I see Route 66, the more I want to know the stories behind it and how it affected America," said Cai, who has traveled parts of Route 66 before. "We need to understand Route 66 and the culture behind it to be able to bring information back to China that will help develop it. Everything is getting better there, but it developed too fast and we created new problems because the people weren't ready for it. What we learn here is valuable to us."

Rick Thomas, owner of Open Road Productions in Detroit, coordinated the winners' trip to the U.S. and traveled with them. Thomas said the group wanted to experience Americana on Route 66, from exploring Angel's, a well-known barbershop in Seligman, to visiting a shooting range in California.

"The winners are infatuated with Route 66, but it isn't just tourism to them, although that part is great," said Thomas. "It's about our ability to explore freely. Their middle class can't do that yet. They've made money but they don't know how to spend it.

"We take it for granted that we can travel here without having papers on us or paying fees. They can't just jump in the car and go without having government approval. And they are fascinated by the fact that we can do that in America. They are here to find out how to make that happen in China."

I think Kim Steele learned everything she knows about China from Fox News and maybe the first paragraph of its Wikipedia article.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
I really like America, its history, its idealism, the geography, its internet game servers and cheap online shopping, its food, different accents, and almost everything associated with the USA :911: Let's just leave the horrible DnD parts and horrible wars/foreign policy out.If it wasn't for its world wide tax system I would probably immigrate there and gladly have a USA passport. But reading this article is really nauseating.

quote:

"We take it for granted that we can travel here without having papers on us or paying fees. They can't just jump in the car and go without having government approval. And they are fascinated by the fact that we can do that in America. They are here to find out how to make that happen in China."

Ok this last part is really ridiculous :jerkbag:

But Chinese learn plenty enough from USA in terms of life styles already. The SUV car culture with traffic jams, aspiring to own their own middle class mcmansion, and worst of all : a tacky fake fire place in the living room :rolleyes:

What the Chinese should have but didn't learn, is long term urban planning. Going to Route 66 is a testament of seeing businesses being bled dry and local governments suing the federal agencies to keep an outdated system instead of innovating. For all the crazy spending the Chinese government has made, I'm glad there's a rapid train network and not just a over reliance on cars.

Cars is a romantic movie about nostalgia but we all know that route 66 is nothing more than dust, tarmac, and badly maintained old infrastructure.

cafel
Mar 29, 2010

This post is hurting the economy!

caberham posted:

Ok this last part is really ridiculous :jerkbag:

But Chinese learn plenty enough from USA in terms of life styles already. The SUV car culture with traffic jams, aspiring to own their own middle class mcmansion, and worst of all : a tacky fake fire place in the living room :rolleyes:

What the Chinese should have but didn't learn, is long term urban planning. Going to Route 66 is a testament of seeing businesses being bled dry and local governments suing the federal agencies to keep an outdated system instead of innovating. For all the crazy spending the Chinese government has made, I'm glad there's a rapid train network and not just a over reliance on cars.

Cars is a romantic movie about nostalgia but we all know that route 66 is nothing more than dust, tarmac, and badly maintained old infrastructure.

Well, there's also the fact that to drive you need to have a state issued license on you. And to travel by plane you need some kind of government approved photo ID and the same will soon apply to trains and long distance busses. Maybe not the level of bureaucracy you'd have to deal with in China, but I find the statement that you don't need papers to travel disingenuous.

And that doesn't even touch on the way local cops can hassle you, especially if your younger. They're itching to bust people on drug charges and so they can confiscate all their stuff. I've had to deal with a fair amount of bullshit on my road trips through the Midwest and the South.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
But at least it's not COMMUNIST.

GuestBob
Nov 27, 2005

cafel posted:

Well, there's also the fact that to drive you need to have a state issued license on you. And to travel by plane you need some kind of government approved photo ID and the same will soon apply to trains and long distance busses. Maybe not the level of bureaucracy you'd have to deal with in China, but I find the statement that you don't need papers to travel disingenuous.

Actually it's exactly the same level of bureaucracy you have to deal with in China.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
She probably read something obliquely referring to the Hukou system as "internal passports" and imagined checkpoints at every internal border or something.

Deep State of Mind
Jul 30, 2006

"It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."
Fun Shoe

GuestBob posted:

Actually it's exactly the same level of bureaucracy you have to deal with in China.

Well we don't have the hukou system. But if you can afford a car and regular travel in China, you're probably not bothered by the hukou system either.

GuestBob
Nov 27, 2005

VideoTapir posted:

She probably read something obliquely referring to the Hukou system as "internal passports" and imagined checkpoints at every internal border or something.

I don't think reading played much of a part here.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
Kingman is a synonym for meth, which is a metaphor for freedom

DaiJiaTeng
Oct 26, 2010

quote:

"We take it for granted that we can travel here without having papers on us or paying fees. They can't just jump in the car and go without having government approval. And they are fascinated by the fact that we can do that in America. They are here to find out how to make that happen in China."


For some reason whenever I see articles like this use the word "fascinated", I always think of innocent little children learning something amazing, or seeing something eye-opening for the first time. I think that's a big problem: I feel like so much of the media and even political organizations seem to treat Chinese people like these little children who don't know anything about the outside world.

I remember years ago when I went on a tour of the Voice of America HQ in DC. The woman who was our guide actually said with a straight face that the Chinese word for democracy was completely locked down and blocked on the internet, that most people had never heard of democracy, had no idea what democracy was, or that other countries had elections.

On the same trip we went to a foreign relations NGO that apparently lobbies the government or something. Their China expert (who couldn't speak Chinese), said that if we go to China we should tell them that they shouldn't say "Inner Mongolia" and should teach them to say "Southern Mongolia" since it is less sino-centric that way. She said if you go there and say that people will think you are really smart and you can change they way they think.

I remember telling my wife that story at some point awhile ago and she joked that in her opinion it just makes the "China Expert" sound like a separatist.

I have so many other stories, but this post is already too long...

Deep State of Mind
Jul 30, 2006

"It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."
Fun Shoe

:regd08:

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VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

DaiJiaTeng posted:

I remember years ago when I went on a tour of the Voice of America HQ in DC. The woman who was our guide actually said with a straight face that the Chinese word for democracy was completely locked down and blocked on the internet, that most people had never heard of democracy, had no idea what democracy was, or that other countries had elections.

That sounds like a Christian assuming that non-Christians must never have heard of Jesus.




Just making America look even more backward; we don't have a clue how to hate/pity/belittle the Chinese properly.

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