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Boz0r
Sep 7, 2006
The Rocketship in action.
Can the Peavey Triple XXX do 80ies hair metal with extra gain? Someone is selling one near me for 950€. All the videos on youtube are just chugging in drop F# or whatever.

EDIT: What about the Bugera 333XL?

Boz0r fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Aug 29, 2013

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Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
Definitely. They're like a ridiculously tight, more nasal JCM 900. That price seems a little high though. I know American amps are more expensive in Europe and vice versa, but that's like twice what they go for used here. If you had problems playing your earlier setup loud, that's not gonna change with that amp though.

Bugeras I'd avoid in general due to reliability issues.

the wizards beard
Apr 15, 2007
Reppin

4 LIFE 4 REAL
That does seem a little pricey. You could even get a new 6505 if you just want a hair metal amp in that price range.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
You can definitely get a Laney or one of the cheaper ENGLs for that much. Or a 5150III mini which definitely fits the bill for smaller and sounds okay at less than deafening volume.

Boz0r
Sep 7, 2006
The Rocketship in action.
There's a guy selling a Laney GH50L for 450€. I've looked at the 5150 III, but I can't find one used here in Denmark and I'd like to get a reasonable return of investment if I sell it again. Also, it's 1.000€ on Thomann. The 6505 is 1.200€, and I haven't been able to find one of these used either. I'm wondering, though, why the combo is half the price of the head.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
If you're referring to the 6505 1x12 combo it's because it's made in China and not the US like the head. I have one I converted to a head and it's pretty much the same amp except a little tighter in the low end due to the smaller transformer. The 5150III is made in Vietnam; no idea why Fender's charging as much as they are though.

Boz0r
Sep 7, 2006
The Rocketship in action.
Some guy is selling a Marshall 30th Anniversary head for 600€. Is this a good deal for hair metal?

EDIT: It doesn't say 6100, it just says "30th Anniversary 1962-1992".

Boz0r fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Aug 30, 2013

Cool Blue Reason
Jan 7, 2010

by Lowtax
Lol dude is selling a 70's Bassman 10 for 150 bucks on craigslist. Says there are just some "minor issues with the master volume". Is it just me or should something like this be going for a lot more? I'm kind of skeptical. I'm pushing him for more info about the problem right now.

iostream.h
Mar 14, 2006
I want your happy place to slap you as it flies by.

Cool Blue Reason posted:

Lol dude is selling a 70's Bassman 10 for 150 bucks on craigslist. Says there are just some "minor issues with the master volume". Is it just me or should something like this be going for a lot more? I'm kind of skeptical. I'm pushing him for more info about the problem right now.
If it powers up, buy it.

jwh
Jun 12, 2002

Cool Blue Reason posted:

Lol dude is selling a 70's Bassman 10 for 150 bucks on craigslist. Says there are just some "minor issues with the master volume". Is it just me or should something like this be going for a lot more? I'm kind of skeptical. I'm pushing him for more info about the problem right now.

They're not really that desirable to collectors or players, but they can sound good.

It's not uncommon to find even blackface bassmans for under about $800

Cool Blue Reason
Jan 7, 2010

by Lowtax

iostream.h posted:

If it powers up, buy it.

Honestly that's what I was planning. Even if it sits there awhile waiting to be repaired something like this doesn't come around too often, locally anyway.

*EDIT*

He deleted the posting and didn't reply to my email, I guess he found someone who would buy it without asking a ton of questions. :negative:

Fortunately there's another one up on ebay right now.. for 800 bucks.

Cool Blue Reason fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Aug 31, 2013

iostream.h
Mar 14, 2006
I want your happy place to slap you as it flies by.

Dunno why I decided to do this while loading up, but I needed to check and make sure my tubes were seated properly.
Look, I DON'T KNOW why, it's just the way it is and I have a screwdriver in my gig bag.
Guts porn ahoy.




Otis Reddit
Nov 14, 2006

Cool Blue Reason posted:

Lol dude is selling a 70's Bassman 10 for 150 bucks on craigslist. Says there are just some "minor issues with the master volume". Is it just me or should something like this be going for a lot more? I'm kind of skeptical. I'm pushing him for more info about the problem right now.

These things are some of the cheapest routes to awesome tone, the trade off is how loving big and heavy they are. If you can deal with it, go for it; you won't be paying more than $100 to get it fixed. They're also decent platforms for modding -- nobody really desires silverfaces since they made so many of them.

Cool Blue Reason
Jan 7, 2010

by Lowtax

juche mane posted:

These things are some of the cheapest routes to awesome tone, the trade off is how loving big and heavy they are. If you can deal with it, go for it; you won't be paying more than $100 to get it fixed. They're also decent platforms for modding -- nobody really desires silverfaces since they made so many of them.

He already sold it though :(

A guy is also selling a bassman 50 head, but he wants 450 for it. Honestly I think these are probably going to be way too loud for a residential area anyway, and if I drop 400-600 I won't be able to afford a decent attenuator for awhile. I might just get a Blues Jr. or something.

Otis Reddit
Nov 14, 2006
As a guy who owns a blackface Bassman and a 15w Pro Jr., I can say that I've MAYBE ran into two gigging situations in the past 18 months where I've needed more balls than the little guy could bring. I suppose the type of music you play matters too, but an attenuator and probably a dirt pedal are gonna be needed to get some nice dirty tones from the Bassman at a reasonable volume.

If I could do it all over again, I'd probably just buy a Blues Jr.

Rotten Cookies
Nov 11, 2008

gosh! i like both the islanders and the rangers!!! :^)

iostream.h posted:

Dunno why I decided to do this while loading up, but I needed to check and make sure my tubes were seated properly.
Look, I DON'T KNOW why, it's just the way it is and I have a screwdriver in my gig bag.
Guts porn ahoy.

Messing with gear right before a show? I see you like to live dangerously.

(I assume it was right before a show.)

Spagghentleman
Jan 1, 2013
So I've been playing my guitars through Guitar Rig instead of an amp since I haven't gigged in almost 5 years. I have a pretty good patch bank set up for tones I like. Problem is I now want to start gigging again, and I really have no clue what I want. I play a lot of Buckethead, Satch, and Paul Gilbert. I'm pretty minimalistic and would rather not have to use pedals to achieve the tone I want.

Currently looking into:
- Bugera 1990 Infinium
- Carvin Legacy (Can't find any new or used ones in my area, do they even have dealers in Canada?)
- Marshall DSL 50 JCM 2000


Leaning towards the Bugera 1990 Infinium right now. Are these still as unreliable as they are made out to be? Carvin is kinda out because I cannot find one ANYWHERE, new or used. The Marshall is a bit too pricy unless I manage to find a decent used one.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
Carvin ships to Canada. It costs a lot though.

Cool Blue Reason
Jan 7, 2010

by Lowtax

juche mane posted:

As a guy who owns a blackface Bassman and a 15w Pro Jr., I can say that I've MAYBE ran into two gigging situations in the past 18 months where I've needed more balls than the little guy could bring. I suppose the type of music you play matters too, but an attenuator and probably a dirt pedal are gonna be needed to get some nice dirty tones from the Bassman at a reasonable volume.

If I could do it all over again, I'd probably just buy a Blues Jr.

Yeah I went with a modded Blues Jr. It sounds great and despite my worries about 15 watts still being too loud, I can crank it a little without having to worry about the neighbors. I'll probably get an AC15 soon-ish too, unless those are drastically louder for some reason.

XYZAB
Jun 29, 2003

HNNNNNGG!!

Leninboarrir posted:

Does anyone have any experience with Hovercraft amps? They look/sound rad as gently caress and the dude behind them sounds really cool. I'm just wondering if it'll be worth it to drop (probably) $900+ on an amp I haven't gotten to play in person.

http://www.hovercraftamps.com/

There's a lot more info and samples on their Facebook page.

Since nobody's replied to this, I'll just say that I've been following Hovercraft for maybe a year now and I am continually impressed. Chronobot came through Lethbridge on a tour of the prairies not too long ago and their guitar player had a Hovercraft Dwarvenaut 20 head and it sounded fantastic. If I were in the market for a vintage style tube amp for heavy riffy stoner rock I'd definitely have them at the top of my list. poo poo, if the guy puts out that 5w Ampeg VT22 inspired head again I might have to snag one.

Ingmar terdman
Jul 24, 2006

I have a question related more to cabs than amps: I'm sort of starting to collect old heads whenever I see them pop up on eBay (Sunn, Sovtek, whatever weird 70s stoner thing I see on the cheap), but the cab game seems to be a bit different. For one, old Sunn cabs are way less likely to pop up on eBay, when they do, they are usually expensive as all hell and are pickup only on the other side of the country, etc. I guess my question is where and what should I be looking for in cabinets for a 70s stoner/doom vibe? Is it worth it to shell out for the true vintage gear online or should I be cruising local shops for any old serviceable cab? If it helps, I have a pretty standard Avatar 4x12 that I bought new 5-6 years ago that I love.

FancyMike
May 7, 2007

Silver Brushes posted:

I have a question related more to cabs than amps: I'm sort of starting to collect old heads whenever I see them pop up on eBay (Sunn, Sovtek, whatever weird 70s stoner thing I see on the cheap), but the cab game seems to be a bit different. For one, old Sunn cabs are way less likely to pop up on eBay, when they do, they are usually expensive as all hell and are pickup only on the other side of the country, etc. I guess my question is where and what should I be looking for in cabinets for a 70s stoner/doom vibe? Is it worth it to shell out for the true vintage gear online or should I be cruising local shops for any old serviceable cab? If it helps, I have a pretty standard Avatar 4x12 that I bought new 5-6 years ago that I love.

Cabs are way cheaper to find locally because they cost a fortune to ship and are the hardest kind of gear to sell used. Consequently you can get really good deals on craigslist. For doom poo poo you should be able to find an old peavey 215 (with black widows preferably) for dirt cheap. Sometimes guitar center's used site will have good deals, I got a sunn 215B for $150 shipped last year, but there's still shipping to pay.

Ingmar terdman
Jul 24, 2006


This is exactly what I'm wanting but things looked so scant online I figured I would need to branch out. But all of this is good advice, I'm going to keep poking around locally.



edit: vvvv Yeah any time I search #sunn on Instagram those dudes pop up. Their backline is pornographically unholy

Ingmar terdman fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Sep 8, 2013

XYZAB
Jun 29, 2003

HNNNNNGG!!

Silver Brushes posted:

This is exactly what I'm wanting but things looked so scant online I figured I would need to branch out. But all of this is good advice, I'm going to keep poking around locally.

I saw Black Pussy open for Vista Chino on Friday, they had five or six 6x12's or 6x10s, a couple 2x15s or 2x12s, and about 6 heads. All Sunn. I asked where they managed to find all of them, "all over the country." So if you REALLY want to start collecting, go out on the road. :drum:

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Build your own cabs. :science:

Verizian
Dec 18, 2004
The spiky one.

Declan MacManus posted:

Build your own cabs. :science:

Any guides for getting started with this and DIY tube power amps in general? I've been skimming through AX84.com but I already have a 12AX7 equipped modelling preamp and they don't have any beginner level projects for just a power amp.

I mostly only do low power circuits for USB/Arduino devices and rewired my strat with dragonfire quadrails for custom HSH/HHS/SHH switching.

Iucounu
May 12, 2007


So I've sold my Fractal Audio Axe-Fx II, it was simply too complex and I don't have the patience to spend a ton of time tweaking. Also, using it with a powered monitor didn't have the same room presence as a real amp. That said, I'm anxiously awaiting delivery of a used VHT/Fryette Deliverance 60 head! Nothing like a simple single channel amp to uncomplicate my gear situation.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Verizian posted:

Any guides for getting started with this and DIY tube power amps in general? I've been skimming through AX84.com but I already have a 12AX7 equipped modelling preamp and they don't have any beginner level projects for just a power amp.

I mostly only do low power circuits for USB/Arduino devices and rewired my strat with dragonfire quadrails for custom HSH/HHS/SHH switching.

I don't know about building high wattage power amps but here is what I used to learn how to build/service/mod tube amps: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0615291805/ref=mw_dp_mdsc?dsc=1 (along with tips from my local amp tech)

As far as a first project, I'd recommend trying to recreate a Fender Champ, but if you're just interested in making a power amp, http://m.instructables.com/id/Building-A-Stereo-Tube-Amp/step2/Parts-What-Youll-Need/ could be right for you

Verizian
Dec 18, 2004
The spiky one.
Both of those seem perfect thanks. Though the book is gonna be hard to find in the UK without paying 50% extra in shipping.

The Fender Champ's probably a good goal to aim for, I've got a Zoom G5 running into a cheap Kustom KGA10 solid state at the moment but it has some grounding issues and likes to pickup background noise as well as lacking the feel of a tube amp. The G5's 12ax7 circuit is nice but it's applied after the effects/amp modelling patch which feels very different to a more traditional OD->Amp rig.

I think I'll be working on something like a Valvecaster OD pedal first though as it's only 9-12V DC so I can prototype that with barepaint and a chunk of wood or plastic with holes drilled in it.

Verizian fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Sep 13, 2013

Leninboarrir
May 11, 2006

stupid monster

Handen posted:

Since nobody's replied to this, I'll just say that I've been following Hovercraft for maybe a year now and I am continually impressed. Chronobot came through Lethbridge on a tour of the prairies not too long ago and their guitar player had a Hovercraft Dwarvenaut 20 head and it sounded fantastic. If I were in the market for a vintage style tube amp for heavy riffy stoner rock I'd definitely have them at the top of my list. poo poo, if the guy puts out that 5w Ampeg VT22 inspired head again I might have to snag one.

That's good to hear. Unfortunately I lost my job about two weeks ago and I'm not in the position to buy something like that right now.

What kind of music does that band play?

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Looks like I might be upgrading from my old XXX 60 combo to a Dual Terror 30 head. I've searched everywhere for what I want and everything about it fits. I'd like a loop but I can make do with all the other positives. Any chance of them being on sale soon new? I haven't noticed Orange prices changing much.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Kilometers Davis posted:

Looks like I might be upgrading from my old XXX 60 combo to a Dual Terror 30 head. I've searched everywhere for what I want and everything about it fits. I'd like a loop but I can make do with all the other positives. Any chance of them being on sale soon new? I haven't noticed Orange prices changing much.

If you want used, scour eBay/Musicgoround/Guitar Center's online website for a deal, and for new, you can sit on Hello Music or wait for a MF sale. Orange tends to be pretty static; people who want them will pay whatever Orange demands, because it's Orange.

RetardedRobots
Dec 19, 2010

Have you seen this man?
Melon "Weed" Dude 1936 - 2011
Rest in peace, you shitposting bastard.
I've never actually seen an Orange sale. I don't think Orange let's it's stockists put them on sale either, so it would be a long wait. What Orange does allow and support is selling factory refurbs which seem to have some flexibility in price and are practically new.

jwh
Jun 12, 2002

I'd check craigslist. There's a glut of Tiny Terrors out there, though a Dual Terror might be harder to find.

Kerpal
Jul 20, 2003

Well that's weird.
Is there an equivalent cab to a Marshall 1960B lead? I played one at a rehearsal studio and it fit my amp (EVH 5150 III) perfectly. The cab really cut through nicely without getting muddy.


A fellow gear head and friend recommended I get these speakers: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/celestion-g12-65-heritage-65-watt-guitar-speaker

But I'm not sure about building a cab myself. I was looking at empty cabs and I'd prefer a 2x12 form factor. The new empty cabs seemed kinda pricey. Perhaps I'm overthinking this...

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
People unload used cabs all the time. There's really no need to buy one new.

Zonekeeper
Oct 27, 2007



I'm looking for a cheap amp in the $200-ish range for around the house. I'm a beginner and don't plan on gigging, so I figure I don't need anything too loud. There's a Roland Cube 20x on craigslist for $120 locally, but I was wondering if there was a better option in my range before pulling the trigger on it.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
Come on dude, give use something to work with when you ask for a recommendation.

What do you play, what kinda guitar do you have, and tube/solid state/modeling, favorite beer, is 15W ok, first girl you ever kissed. At least provide something people here can use to come up with a good idea for you. Because otherwise I'm just going to give my age old recommendation for "Fender Super Champ."

Zonekeeper
Oct 27, 2007



Francodipshit posted:

Come on dude, give use something to work with when you ask for a recommendation.

What do you play, what kinda guitar do you have, and tube/solid state/modeling, favorite beer, is 15W ok, first girl you ever kissed. At least provide something people here can use to come up with a good idea for you. Because otherwise I'm just going to give my age old recommendation for "Fender Super Champ."

Ok, I have a stock 2012 Squier VM Jaguar and an SX Callisto (Les Paul clone) with an Invader and a P-90. I have a PodXT for modeling and headphone-playing, and I favor 90's alternative and classic rock music.

I'm just starting out, so I guess I'm too inexperienced to be picky about tube vs. solid-state. If I ever decide to get serious I'll probably get something more powerful, so I guess I'm after a decent practice amp.

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Iucounu
May 12, 2007


Roland Cubes are decent practice amps. It will do you just fine.

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