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I gave a lot of thought to making a 42 year old Roger Clemens my 5th starter but I eventually saw reason. The Lake Louise Longshots select 1959 Bob Gibson. Finger Bangers are up!
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 Now, before we finalize our company directory-slash-baseball team, we have decided to take one last chance on acquiring end of the draft draft picks or bullpen arms for the following: '96 Hideo Nomo '96 Ramon Martinez '68 Mel Stottlemeyer '08 Tom Hughes '68 Fritz Peterson '68 Al Downing We might also be open to trading some position players to get a deal done, but it would depend on the player.
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 Spreadsheet here! Stadium: The Graveyard (modelled after Turner Field) 25-Man roster 1B: Jason Giambi (2003 Yankees, giambja01), 2B: Eddie Collins (1923 White Sox, collied01), Alfonso Soriano (2003 Yankees, soriaal01) 3B: Ron Santo (1969 Cubs, Dispersal Draft XI Pick #1, santoro01), Robin Ventura (2003 Yankees, venturo01) C: Jorge Posada (2003 Yankees, posadjo01), Ted Simmons (1975 Cardinals, simmote01) SS: Derek Jeter (2003 Yankees, jeterde01) LF: Gary Sheffield (1995 Marlins, sheffga01) RF: Reggie Smith (1975 Cardinals, smithre06), Carlos Beltran (2008 Mets, Dispersal Draft XI Pick #4, beltrca01) CF: Kirby Puckett (1984 Twins, puckeki01) DH: Stan Musial (1959 Cardinals, Dispersal Draft XI Pick #3, musiast01), Bernie Williams (2003 Yankees, willibe02) 1#SP: Red Faber (1923 White Sox, faberre01) 2#SP: Rick Reuschel (1976 Cubs, Dispersal Draft XI pick #2, reuscri01) 3#SP: Mike Mussina (2003 Yankees, mussimi01) 4#SP: Frank Viola (1984 Twins, violafr01) 5#SP: Bob Gibson (1975 Cardinals, gibsobo01) Closer: Mariano Riviera (2003 Yankees, riverma01) Setup: Robb Nen (1995 Marlins, nenro01) Short Relief: Alejandro Pena (1995 Marlins, penaal01) Short Relief: Al Hrabosky (1975 Cardinals, hraboal01) Middle Relief: Ron Reed (1975 Cardinals, reedro01) Long Relief: Roger Clemens (2003 Yankees, clemero02) Minors Harry Hooper (1923 White Sox, hoopeha01) Chris Speier (1984 Twins, speiech01) Ray Schalk (1923 White Sox, schalra01) Armando Benitez (2003 Yankees, benitar01) Andy Pettitte (2003 Yankees, pettian01) Lineup against RHP #1 Eddie Collins #2 Stan Musial #3 Reggie Smith #4 Jason Giambi #5 Gary Sheffield #6 Ron Santo #7 Jorge Posada #8 Kirby Puckett #9 Derek Jeter against LHP #1 Eddie Collins #2 Jason Giambi #3 Reggie Smith #4 Gary Sheffield #5 Bernie Williams #6 Ron Santo #7 Jorge Posada #8 Kirby Puckett #9 Derek Jeter Trades Lost 1995 Bryan Harvey (to Rakers) Gained 2nd round Super Draft pick (Season XI, from Rakers) Strategy Hit and Run: -2 Sacrifice Bunt: -2 Squeeze Play: -2 Trying for extra bases: 0 Stealing Bases: 0 Aggressively Tagging Up: 0 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): +1 Giving Intentional Walks: -1 Pitching Around Good Hitters: 0 Bringing the Infield In: 0 Guarding the Lines: 0 Making Cutoff Throws: +1 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: -2 Bringing in Pinch Runners: -2 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: +1 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -3 Letting pitchers pitch through trouble: +1 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: +1
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 Before I post my final roster, I thought I'd post these two two guys left on my feeders: OF/1B '70 Don Baylor - 21 year old power and speed who you could probably platoon effectively 3B '99 Eric Chavez - 21 year old on base dude who plays great D. Another good platoon option In case anyone thinks they could use them and wants to trade me picks or a minor league SP option better than Kevin Appier for one of them. I also have a pile of 1990s relievers for desperate bullpen situations, and a Matt Stairs. Because having a Matt Stairs can never be a bad thing.
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Aug 28, 2013 20:29
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 Home Town: Alma, Zone 1 (or Chicago, IL) Stadium: Wrigley Field 25 Man Roster: code:code:code:code:code:code:code:
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 Home City: Leningrad Home Stadium: Glorious Cosmodrome of the Workers (aka Kaufman Stadium this joke was better when it was the launchpad that is Coors Field but that led to disastrous results in the EC) DH Preference: In the people's republic, no man may "designate" another to hit in his place while he sits idle on the bench, exploiting the labor of his comrades. code:RF Shoeless Joe 3B Mel Ott CF Willie Mays LF Orlando Cepeda 1B Willie McCovey 2B Nap Lajoie C King Kelly SS Brooks Robinson <pitcher> (with DH): RF Shoeless Joe 3B Mel Ott CF Willie Mays DH Orlando Cepeda 1B Willie McCovey 2B Nap Lajoie C King Kelly LF Hugh Duffy SS Brooks Robinson Pitching Rotation: Juan Marichal Randy Johnson John Clarkson Kid Nichols Gaylord Perry Strategy (Rate on a scale from -5 to +5) Hit and Run: -5 Sacrifice Bunt: -5 Squeeze Play: -5 Trying for extra bases: 0 Stealing Bases: 0 Aggressively Tagging Up: 0 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -2 Giving Intentional Walks: +1 Pitching Around Good Hitters: +1 Bringing the Infield In: 0 Guarding the Lines: 0 Making Cutoff Throws: 0 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: -2 Bringing in Pinch Runners: -5 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: -2 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: +1 Letting pitchers pitch through trouble: +2 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: +4
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 Spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArQtY_nNZLdVdHczQ2VHSUgxdDNmSjJEQlUyblpyYUE&usp=sharing Feeders posted:1999 Tampa Bay Devil Rays Stadium posted:Home City: Haukness Roster: posted:
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Make Victor Martinez the Personal Catcher for Gaylord Perry Strategy Hit and Run: 0 Sacrifice Bunt: -5 Squeeze Play: -5 Trying for extra bases: 0 Stealing Bases: 3 Aggressively Tagging Up: 1 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -4 Giving Intentional Walks: -5 Pitching Around Good Hitters: -5 Bringing the Infield In: 0 Guarding the Lines: 0 Making Cutoff Throws: 0 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: -1 Bringing in Pinch Runners: -5 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: -3 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -5 Letting pitchers pitch through trouble: 5 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: 5 Pash fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Aug 28, 2013 |
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Aug 28, 2013 22:02
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The Fukuoka Finger-Bangers select James Rodney Richard, and consider it a stroke of luck that he was still available. Expect a series of rosters to trickle in over tonight and tomorrow.
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Aug 28, 2013 22:16
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The Merry Marauder posted:The Fukuoka Finger-Bangers select Definitely feel stupid for not noticing him. Once struck out 313 batters in a season but finished 3rd in the Cy Young voting because of Wins and Saves. E: Holy poo poo, the voting that year was  terrible: http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_1979.shtml#NLcya
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Aug 28, 2013 22:23
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There's reason to worry about his walks in this league, but the 'Bangers can't really pick a guy who doesn't strike people out and expect to use him, as they have enough of those already, and their infield defense is just awful. That is a hilarious vote, though, and I hope Phil punched Joe at Thanksgiving. The Premodernists reject the stolid univocity of BABiP, embrace the Super-League policies on PEDs, and select Rafael Palmiero.
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In lieu of igniting Smasher's wrath now or later, the Kids are going to make a simple change, and move Jeff Heath to their AAA block, and in exchange of him put Al "One Bucketfoot In The Grave" Simmons on the bench. The change has been made on my roster post (located here) and on my general purpose spreadsheet.
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Ah, Marauder. So reliable. So... predictable. J.R. Richard? A fine pitcher, I've had success with him in the SL myself. But he wasn't the pick there, even if you needed a solid strikeout pitcher. Let me show you how it's done. The New World Symphony select: 1984 Dwight "Dr. K" Gooden.
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mrnoun posted:The New World Symphony select:
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OLDSKOOL come make your pick so I can take my eventual failure.
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Teams Selected: 1947 St. Louis Browns (1 pt) 1923 St. Louis Browns (2 pts) 2008 Toronto Blue Jays (3 pts) 1976 Los Angeles Dodgers (4 pts) Team Name: The New World Symphony Team Logo (150x150 preferred):  Home City: The only logical place to go after exploring the very depths of the cosmos itself: Scranton, Pennsylvania Home Stadium: Nestor G. Chylak, Jr. Memorial Stadium, aka the Wreckage of the Moonchild Domed, artificial turf Infield Quality: Excellent Infield Grass: Long Dimensions: 340-380-440-430-410. We don't have any lefty power hitters, so you don't get to have any, either. DH Preference: I assume I'm still in the Senor Goodtimes. 30-Man Roster: code:vs R: LF Ken Williams 2B Nap LaJoie CF Baby Doll Jacobson DH Josh Gibson 1B Jeff Heath 3B Scott Rolen RF Reggie Smith SS Vern Stephens C Brian McCann vs R, no DH: Gibson plays 1st, Heath sits. vs L: LF Ken Williams 1B Nap LaJoie <-- The Bruzer Maneuver! CF Baby Doll Jacobson C Josh Gibson DH Frank Thomas 3B Scott Rolen RF Reggie Smith SS Vern Stephens 2B Davey Lopes vs L, no DH: Thomas to the bench. Bench: McCann/Thomas platoon Lopes/Heath platoon Ron Cey Vernon Wells Aaron Hill Pitching Rotation: S1 Pedro Martinez S2 Pete Alexander S3 Don Sutton S4 Roy Halladay S5 Dwight Gooden CL Mike Marshall SU B.J. Ryan SR Elias Sosa SR Scott Downs MR Don Stanhouse LR A.J. Burnett Minors: Hank Severeid Marty McManus Jose Bautista Urban Shocker Dizzy Dean Strategy (Rate on a scale from -5 to +5) Hit and Run: -5 Sacrifice Bunt: -5 Squeeze Play: -5 Trying for extra bases: 0 Stealing Bases: -2 Aggressively Tagging Up: 0 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -5 Giving Intentional Walks: -5 Pitching Around Good Hitters: -5 Bringing the Infield In: 0 Guarding the Lines: 0 Making Cutoff Throws: 0 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: 0 Bringing in Pinch Runners: 0 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: -2 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -4 Letting pitchers pitch through trouble: 0 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: -5 Song of the Preseason: Karl Jenkins, Chorale IV (Alama Oo Ya) I'm not normally into choral music, but I love the horn part that comes in around 0m39s.
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tadashi posted:Definitely feel stupid for not noticing him. Not as bad as what happened in the 1982 AL Cy Young voting: http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_1982.shtml#ALcya
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I have said before and will say again that the Vuckovich CYA was a preemptive award for his appearance in Major League.
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If y'all would post the draft spreadsheet once in a while  Oranges take 2005 Kerry Wood, jam him in AAA for the time being and keep the previously posted roster. What was the official decree on Polanco-for-Boggs anyway?
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Trade! Strickland Propane send: 1967 SP Al Downing Brainerd Oxen send: 2011 RP Joe Smith 1974 RP Doug Bird Meh, Downing was gonna be a #4 or #5 in the rotation, and I needed actual bullpen guys and Smith and Bird ideally won't be dumpster fires! Armitage fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Aug 29, 2013 |
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Armitage posted:Trade! Oxen confirm. Oxen starting rotation now looks like this: Greg Maddox 02 Braves Dave Foutz 86 Browns Bob Caruthers 86 Browns Mark Prior 05 Cubs Kevin Millwood 02 Braves Bullpen: CL Chris Perez 11 Indians SU Mike Remlinger 02 Braves SR Tony Sipp 11 Indians SR Rafel Perez 11 Indians MR Vinnie Pestano 01 Brewers LR Al Downing 68 Yankees Minors: OF Tip O'Neil 86 Browns 3B George Brett 74 Royals C Javy Lopez 02 Braves RP Chad Fox 01 Brewers SP Ulbaldo Jimenez 11 Indians I am dropping Justin Masterson for Downing and that should be it for now.
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oldskool posted:If y'all would post the draft spreadsheet once in a while We both agreed so I assume it went through? I posted my roster as if it did.
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And my long, arduous quest for Larry Doby comes to a graceful close, as I select with my 4th round pick (79th overall) '88 Byrn Smith haha suck it Larry Doby you thought I was going to take you, hahahaha sucker Warm Sarsaparauder you're up
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 Hawk City TWTWs Team Spreadsheet (CSV with 30-man roster on last tab) code:Lineup vs RHP code:code:code:code:Starting Rotation code:Bullpen code:code:No DH lineup vs RHP code:code:Pander fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Aug 29, 2013 |
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 Home City: San Francisco, CA Home Stadium: Bourbon Field (Open, high natural grass, excellent infield quality, good visibility, avg foul ground, 337/370/415/385/350) 30-Man Roster: code:code:code:code:code:code:Hit and Run: -3 Sacrifice Bunt: -4 Squeeze Play: -2 Trying for extra bases: +1 Stealing Bases: +0 Aggressively Tagging Up: +1 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -2 Giving Intentional Walks: -4 Pitching Around Good Hitters: -2 Bringing the Infield In: -2 Guarding the Lines: +1 Making Cutoff Throws: +1 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: -3 Bringing in Pinch Runners: -3 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: -3 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: +1 Letting pitchers pitch through trouble: +3 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: +4
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The Coburns select  teenage Ken Holtzman.UDQ is up.
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Warm Sarsaparilla posted:The Coburns select Was looking at him, but figured his good control might evaporate if I got a version too young. Then I saw the 18 year old version averaged 1 BB/9 over 47 IP.  (He wasn't even in the MINORS at 18)
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 Home city: Haradhere, Somalia Stadium: Al-Barakat Field (Convertible, Very Short Turf, Excellent IF Quality, Excellent Visibility, Small Foul Ground; 340/370/395/360/330) pre:1 1B Buck Leonard leonabu99 ???? Negro Leagues 2 LF Elmer Smith smithel01 1901 Boston Beaneaters 3 CF Billy Hamilton* hamilbi01 1901 Boston Beaneaters 4 SP Kid Nichols nichoki01 1901 Boston Beaneaters 5 SP Vic Willis willivi01 1901 Boston Beaneaters 6 SP Rube Waddell wadderu01 1902 Philadelphia Atheltics 7 SP Noodles Hahn hahnno01 1902 Cincinnati Reds 8 SP Mordecai Brown brownmo01 1910 Chicago Cubs 9 IF Frankie Frisch# friscfr01 1924 St Louis Cardinals 10 SP Pete Alexander alexape01 1926 Chicago Cubs 11 C Ernie Lombardi lombaer01 1938 Cincinnati Reds 12 IF Lonny Frey* freylo01 1938 Cincinnati Reds 13 C Spud Davis davissp01 1938 Cincinnati Reds 14 SP Paul Derringer derripa01 1938 Cincinnati Reds 15 SP Bucky Walters waltebu01 1938 Cincinnati Reds 16 CF Wally Berger bergewa01 1938 Cincinnati Reds 17 SP Johnny Sain sainjo01 1946 Boston Braves 18 RP Jim Konstanty konstji01 1946 Boston Braves 19 OF Tommy Holmes* holmeto01 1946 Boston Braves 20 RP Frank Barrett barrefr01 1946 Boston Braves 21 SP Bill Lee leebi02 1946 Boston Braves 22 3B Eddie Yost yosted01 1955 Washington Senators 23 RP Dan Quisenberry quiseda01 1975 Kansas City Royals 24 RP Dave LaRoche larocda01 1978 California Angels 25 OF Rickey Hendersonhenderi01 1985 New York Yankees 26 2B Lou Whitaker* whitalo01 1987 Detroit Tigers 27 SS Alan Trammell trammal01 1987 Detroit Tigers 28 OF Kirk Gibson* gibsoki01 1987 Detroit Tigers 29 RP Nate Snell snellna01 1987 Detroit Tigers 30 LF Rickey Hendersonhenderi01 1991 Oakland Athletics 31 1B Rafael Palmeiro palmera01 1995 Baltimore Orioles 32 RP Trevor Hoffman hoffmtr01 1998 San Diego Padres 33 RF Bobby Abreu abreubo01 2004 Philadephia Phillies 34 RP Sergio Romo romose01 2008 San Fransisco Giants Batting (No DH): pre:vs. RHP 1 RF Billy Hamilton 2 CF Rickey the Younger 3 LF Rickey the Older 4 1B Buck Leonard 5 3B Frankie Frisch 6 2B Lou Whitaker 7 SS Alan Trammell 8 C Ernie Lombardi vs. LHP 1 3B Frankie Frisch 2 CF Rickey the Younger 3 LF Rickey the Older 4 1B Buck Leonard 5 RF Wally Berger 6 2B Lou Whitaker 7 SS Alan Trammell 8 C Ernie Lombardi pre:vs. RHP 1 DH Billy Hamilton 2 CF Rickey the Younger 3 LF Rickey the Older 4 1B Buck Leonard 5 RF Wally Berger 6 3B Frankie Frisch 7 2B Lou Whitaker 8 SS Alan Trammell 9 C Ernie Lombardi vs. LHP 1 DH Billy Hamilton 2 CF Rickey the Younger 3 LF Rickey the Older 4 1B Buck Leonard 5 RF Wally Berger 6 3B Frankie Frisch 7 2B Lou Whitaker 8 SS Alan Trammell 9 C Ernie Lombardi pre:1B Rafael Palmeiro OF Bobby Abreu 3B Eddie Yost C Spud Davis (catches for Derringer) OF Tommy Holmes RF Platoon pre:SP1 Pete Alexander SP2 Rube Waddell SP3 Paul Derringer SP4 Noodles Hahn SP5 Three Finger Brown CL Sergio Romo SU Trevor Hoffman SR Dan Quisenberry SR Dave LaRoche MR Nate Snell LF Johnny Sain pre:SP Kid Nichols SP Vic Willis SP Bucky Walters SP Bill Lee RP Frank Barrett RP Jim Konstanty IF Lonny Frey OF Kirk Gibson OF Elmer Smith Hit and Run: +2 Sacrifice Bunt: -5 Squeeze Play: +2 Trying for extra bases: +1 Stealing Bases: +4 Aggressively Tagging Up: +2 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): 0 Giving Intentional Walks: -5 Pitching Around Good Hitters: +2 Bringing the Infield In: +1 Guarding the Lines: +1 Making Cutoff Throws: +1 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: 0 Bringing in Pinch Runners: +2 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: 0 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: 0 Letting pitchers pitch throw through trouble: -2 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: +1
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The Critically-Acclaimed, Steam-Powered, Lime-Infused Super-League XI Preview: Senor Goodtimes Division Last Season The Galactic Wanderers somehow kicked the poo poo out of everyone despite only having been constructed a few days before the season started. This primarily happened because mrnoun made about a dozen lop-sided trades in his favor. The Muggers, despite being owned by Monicro, managed to tie for the last wildcard, only to be booted out of the playoffs by the Batmen. In the Gauntlet, the Thunderstorms proved their mettle by surviving the Gauntlet Round From Hell, defeating the Oklahoma City Bombers and Montreal Manatees in the 20th Tiebreaker. There were some other teams, I suppose, but they're all dead now. Why You Should Give a poo poo? 1. Three in a row? mrnoun has a chance to win this division three times in a row with three different teams if he can lead his New World Symphony to the division championship. Now, that won't be easy, as the Muggers and Thunderstorms are back and aren't going to be overly happy to let mrnoun's streak continue, but few owners are craftier than mrnoun.... 2. Vengeance! Speaking of which, the Thunderstorms and Muggers are both looking to win their division in their second season. THe Muggers almost made the playoffs, but lost in a one-game tiebreaker, while the Thunderstorms barely escaped relegation, only surviving thanks to being the last team standing in the final round of the Gauntlet than went to 20 tiebreakers. Both are looking to take vengeance a league that is so cruel to rookie teams in their second seasons. 3. Calami-Ted mooseontheloose and Monathin are two owners with a lot of enthusiasm for the league, but not a lot of success in it. Here's hoping they do better next time. On the plus side, both of these teams are better than the last entries from these two, so that's something. 4. Noir can never die. The Gumshoes are back, but they aren't very good. Bummer. Catcher 1. '11 Brian McCann/'?? Josh Gibson (NYS) 2. '38 Bill Dickey (CAC) 3. '70 Joe Torre (LOU) 4. '06 Joe Mauer (THU) 5. '84 Mickey Tettleton (TED) 6. '36 Ernie Lombardi (LOM) Six catchers, and almost all of them are offensive-first players...which is not exactly how catcher is supposed to work. I'll put the Symphony first because having Gibson as a platoon partner really is that much of a boost given how well he hits in the Super-League. Also, McCann is usually decent enough. Dickey is next because unlike most of the other catchers on this list, he's actually a good fielder. I know Dickey hasn't had the greatest history in the Super-League, but this time might be different. Mauer and Torre are both great hitters for catchers, but I feel like Torre is more consistent in the Super-League. It's close, though. Tettleton will hit home runs, draw walks, and have an abysmal batting average, which will probably be around .230 if moose gets luck. Lombardi will have a higher batting average, but doesn't have home run power, doesn't draw walks, can't run at all, and is a poor defender at a defense-first position. First Baseman 1. '62 Carl Yastrzemski (TED) 2. '88 Rafael Palmeiro/'66 Dick Allen (LOM) 3. '96 Mark Grace (LOU) 4. '?? Sadaharu Oh (THU) 5. '87 Eddie Murray (CAC) 6. '47 Jeff Heath/'05 Nap Lajoie (NYS) Terrible. Just a terrible group. Yaz, actually, should be okay, even if moose is wasting young Yaz's defensive abilities at first base. The Palmeiro/Allen pairing has potential, but two moving parts doubles the chance for a breakdown, and I'd bet one or the other ends up as the full-time starter. In fact, Grace is probably better than either, but he just doesn't have the slugging numbers to be a top-flight first baseman, and he's still not going to get that gyros. Oh is okay, not great, not terrible. He'll probably be better than last time unless I feel like punishing GVOLTT for some reason. Steady Eddie Murray is consistently underwhelming in the Super-League, which, when you think about it, makes sense. For those of us who remember Murray's career, he was always just kind of there. He amassed 3000 hits and 500 home runs, but I can't ever remember a time where he was considered a superstar of the game. The Heath/Lajoie platoon is an abomination. mrnoun will pay a heavy price for this sin against the laws of man and god. Second Baseman 1. '30 Charlie Gehringer (CAC) 2. '04 Chase Utley (LOM) 3. 'X6 The MACHINE (THU) 4. '02 Nap Lajoie (LOU) 5. '04 Nap Lajoie/'76 Davey Lopes (NYS) 6. '62 Pete Runnels/'56 Frank Bolling (TED) Gehringer has almost always been decent or better in the Super-League, and might be the most solid 2B in Super-League history when you consider that he doesn't have the deadball glove penalty of Collins, or the lovely fielding of Hornsby. He's just a great player in the Super-League. As for Utley? I like Utley on a conceptual level. A plus-defender in the middle infielder with some pop and a left-handed bat? That sounds like a winner to me. In the Super-League, he's been hit-or-miss. In the two seasons he's actually been given a full-season's worth of games, though, he's been above-average. The MACHINE is sabermetrics personified, but that lack of a hit tool will hold it back. Here's my problem with Nap Lajoie: He can hit for contact, but can do basically nothing else. No power. Not very good patience and, most damningly, he makes a lot of errors and sucks at turning the double play. I know that you guys see a .310 batting average and go "this I can live with" and I don't blame you for that but, defense does count, and he's never drawn more than 39 walks in a Super-League season. The Ted Sox platoon's best-case scenario is holding down the fort until the Super-Draft. I think they might be capable of that, though. Third Baseman 1. '73 Mike Schmidt (TED) 2. '65 Ron Santo (CAC) 3. '60 Eddie Mathews (LOU) 4. '86 Paul Molitor (THU) 5. '?? Ray Dandridge (LOM) 6. '08 Scott Rolen (NYS) Many different types of players here. First, Schmidt. A lot of you complain that he never hits in the Super-League. And I get that. Then again, the man's career BA in real-life was .267, so it's not like you were picking him for his contact skills anyway. At the end of the day, even at his worst, Schmidt will still provide home runs and great defense. And I have higher hopes for him. Santo gets the nod over Mathews because Santo is a more rounded player, and tends to do a bit better than Mathews in the Super-League anyway. Also, it's Ron Santo. I will never pick against him. Paul Molitor isn't a defensive liability, exactly, but he's certainly not great at third, and he doesn't have much besides the elite hit tool and his speed. Then again, those are two great tools. Ray Dandridge is a guy with a glove and contact skills, but I think Molitor's contact skills are considerably better. I hate to say it, but I think Dandridge is probably a lot like George Kell. Old Scott Rolen can still flash the leather and provide mid-range power with the bat, but both are down from his peak, and it's actually a good group. It's not that I don't like Rolen, I just like the others better. Shortstop 1. '?? Willie Wells (LOM) 2. '32 Luke Appling (LOU) 3. '45 Lou Boudreau (CAC) 4. '47 Vern Stephens (NYS) 5. '56 Harvey Kuenn (TED) 6. '10 Hanley Ramirez (THU) Everything I've read leads me to believe that Willie Wells is Luke Appling with more power. So, that's pretty loving awesome, all things considered, because Appling is a drat fine player, whose main weakness is a lack of power. Lou Boudreau, I just don't quite trust, probably because his best years were in the '40s, when baseball got all hosed up because of the war, and the faded really quickly. He's still a fine player, I just like Appling, and by extension, Wells, a bit better. That's a matter of preference, though. Vern Stephens has hitting statistics that are a bit hard to parse because of Fenway and a short career. Still, any shortstop that can hit 39 home runs in the late '40s can't be all bad. Harvey Kuenn had a great contact tool, and was kind of mediocre at everything else. Hanley Ramirez is a headcase, and who know what you're going to get from him? Left Fielder 1. '35 Mel Ott (TED) 2. '62 Carl Yastrzemski (LOU) 3. '65 Billy Williams (CAC) 4. '?? Mule Suttles (LOM) 5. '96 Luis Gonzalez (THU) 6. '23 Ken Williams (NYS) Ott is king! Always and forever! As long as there's not a Williams or Bonds in his division. In this case, there is not. Yaz is better suited to left field than first base at this stage in his career, MOOSEONTHELOOSE! Billy Williams rates ahead of Suttles because Billy would take a walk, while Suttles would just kind of go to the plate flailing away, hoping to hit one out of the park, which he did a fair number of times, admittedly. Luis Gonzalez did have a great season in '01, but this Gonzo is not from '01, and won't get the advantage of hot desert air lifting his power stats. Ken Williams had a weird career by modern standards, but breaking into the big leagues around 30 wasn't as unusual back then. I still don't know how well his (corked) bat will play in the Super-League. Center Fielder 1. '61 Mickey Mantle (LOM) 2. '84 Rickey Henderson (TED) 3. '86 Robin Yount (THU) 4. '55 Richie Ashburn (LOU) 5. '93 Jim Edmonds (CAC) 6. '23 Baby Doll Jacobson (NYS) Mantle is the clear winner here, especially since he's the only one of the top three that is actually a good fielder in center. Rickey has skills, but Rickey is really better suited to being a left fielder. Still, Rickey will do a decent job in center. Rickey guarantees it. And Rickey is the best of all-time, so how can you doubt Rickey? Yount does a bunch of things well, but nothing great, so don't expect eye-popping numbers. Ashburn had great fielding skills, and good on-base and speed tools. But he has no power. That's a real concern, as there's a limit to how much a guy with a career SLG of .382 can help you. '93 Jim Edmonds is probably too young to be of much help. Baby Doll Jacobson has a five-tool name, but I'm not sure he's good enough to start in the Super-League. Right Fielder 1. '64 Roberto Clemente (THU) 2. '56 Al Kaline (TED) 3. '03 Manny Ramirez (CAC) 4. '75 Dave Winfield (LOU) 5. '08 Nick Swisher (LOM) 6. '76 Reggie Smith (NYS) I'm a bit ambivalent about Clemente, but he's an elite fielder and a great contact hitter, and probably has enough power to be worthwhile. Al Kaline has been up and down in the Super-League. This ranking reflects my hope that he'll do better, but Manny Ramirez might end up being better. Then again, old Manny in right field is going to be a fielding disaster, so maybe it's not that optimistic to have Kaline ranked above Ramirez. Winfield, or Mr. May as he was known to George Steinbrenner, is solid. That's the best description of his game: solid. Not going to blow you away, but he'll be solid. Nick Swisher is going to have contact problems in the Super-League, and even his out-sized personality can't fix that...or can it? NO! It can't. Reggie Smith might be better than this, but I feel like Mogul is not going to be kind to him. Designated Hitter 1. '?? Josh Gibson/'08 Frank Thomas (NYS) 2. '90 Mark McGwire (LOU) 3. '03 David Ortiz (CAC) 4. '08 Jim Thome (LOM) 5. '?? Hector Espino (THU) 6. '73 Greg Luzinski (TED) Josh Gibson! He might one of the best power-hitters of all-time! The Big Hurt should be decent too, and might have a better season that the ghastly Heath/Lajoie platoon that mrnoun is trotting out at first. Mark McGwire will hit 35 home runs, draw 80 walks, and hit .230. That's just how it rolls. Ortiz is fine, but probably needs a caddy to deal with left-handed pitching, as while he can deal with it in real life okay, left-handed Super-League pitching will probably carve him up. That goes double for Jim Thome, who was platooned in real life by 2008, and in no circumstance should be exposed to left-handed pitching, which will kill Jim Thome. DO NOT KILL JIM THOME! Hector Espino is kind of a free swinger, which hasn't always worked out great in the Super-League. Greg Luzinski is Super-League filler. Bench 1. '55 Smoky Burgess/'75 Willie McCovey/'62 Pete Runnels/'23 Zack Wheat/'96 Sammy Sosa (LOU) 2. '61 Elston Howard/'95 Mo Vaughn/'38 Al Simmons/'38 Buddy Myer (CAC) 3. '01 Mike Sweeney/'01 Carlo Beltran/'01 Jermaine Dye/'63 Joe Morgan/'06 Torii Hunter (THU) 4. '84 Dave Kingman/Platoon Partner/'84 Tony Phillips/'73 Bob Boone/'84 Dwayne Murphy (TED) 5. '83 Don Slaught/'66 Harvey Kuenn/'?? Jimmie Crutchfield/'?? Ed Stone/Platoon Partner (LOM) 6. Platoon Partners/'76 Ron Cey/'08 Vernon Wells/'08 Aaron Hill (NYS) Terrible benches! The Muggers at least have some good power bats on the bench, and serviceable fourth outfielder in Wheat...although I wouldn't want to put Wheat in CF. The Calamities have some interesting pieces, but not a single bench player than can handle center field, which is going to gently caress them over because Edmonds is almost certainly not going to be able to handle left-handed pitching. And no, old Al Simmons can't play center, Monathin. The Thunderstorms have no backup catcher. Oh, I see Mike Sweeney listed as their backup catcher, but I've seen Mike Sweeney play and, sirrah, Mike Sweeney is not a backup catcher in any universe. Also, they're only backup infielder is the infant Morgan, who never really played shortstop, or third. I guess the thinking is that you can move Yount or the MACHINE or something if that sort of injury happens, but my preference is for a backup infielder capable of playing more than one infield position. The Ted Sox have interesting pieces that I would not ever want near my team, but that I kind of want to see get some playing time. Kingman can hit home runs but not anything else. Tony Phillips has good skills, but is Tony Phillips. Dwayne Murphy is a guy who you think should be great, but is kind of underwhelming. Bob Boone...cannot hit at all. The Gumshoes have the detective and three useless players. Kuenn is too old to do much of anything useful, and Crutchfield and Stone aren't going to be much good. The Symphony has Rony Cey, who I like, and Aaron Hill, who has loads of potential that he has managed to tap into twice in nine seasons. SP1 1. '99 Pedro Martinez (NYS) 2. '03 Pedro Martinez (CAC) 3. '69 Don Drysdale (THU) 4. '23 Dazzy Vance (LOU) 5. '11 Eddie Plank (LOM) 6. '73 Steve Carlton (TED) Young Martinez beats Old Martinez. I don't think that needs much explanation. '69 Don Drysdale was at the end of his road, but was still pretty young. I'm betting that Mogul emphasizes the latter over the former. Dazzy Vance was the greatest power pitcher of an era when hitters just ran wild, and Mogul doesn't quite know how to handle that, so it doesn't think much of Vance. Plank is a good deadballer, but was getting a bit older in '11, and will not strike anyone out ever. Steve Carlton is hit-or-miss, and misses tend to outnumber the hits. SP2 1. '16 Pete Alexander (NYS) 2. '02 Eddie Plank (LOU) 3. '66 Jim Bunning (LOM) 4. '45 Bob Feller (CAC) 5. '73 Bert Blyleven (TED) 6. '69 Don Sutton (THU) If the Symphony somehow win this division, and their hitting is so weak that I don't think it's particularly likely, it will be because Pedro and Pete are an incredibly potent combination at the top of their rotation. Pete Alexander is almost certainly the greatest Super-League pitcher of all-time. Eddie Plank doesn't give up home runs or walks, and neutralizes left-handed hitters. That does count for a lot. Bunning is good, but he's not great. Bob Feller tended to have some control issues, and that doesn't play well in the Super-League, where most hitters are willing to take a walk. Blyleven is usually solid, and does have that great curve. Sutton is usually pretty good as well. It's a solid group, all told, with not a ton separating the bottom five. SP3 1. '76 Don Sutton (NYS) 2. '56 Jim Bunning (TED) 3. '55 Jim Bunning (LOU) 4. '06 Johan Santana (THU) 5. '41 Thornton Lee (LOM) 6. '38 Dutch Leonard (CAC) I know that I ranked Sutton below Bunning last time, but it was close, and I think a mature Sutton beats two versions of a young Bunning. It's still pretty close, though. Johan Santana has had a star-crossed history, both in the Super-League and in real life, but I guess I just can't be too harsh about a power lefty. The Thornton Lee is a hyper-control lefty who, thanks to the way Mogul adjusts for the era effects of wartime baseball, is almost a pseudo-deadballer. Almost. Dutch Leonard is pretty good, and has a good chance of turning out to be better than Lee. SP4 1. '08 Roy Halladay (NYS) 2. '55 Robin Roberts (LOU) 3. '15 Red Faber (CAC) 4. '54 Mike Garcia (LOM) 5. '69 Claude Osteen (THU) 6. '62 Wilbur Wood (TED) Roy Halladay is a great pitcher, and he's really been doing well in the Super-League lately. I don't know that I agree with mrnoun's approach of putting all of his points into pitching, but it should be a pretty great pitching staff, even if it has a terrible offense. Robin Roberts had a strong commitment to strike one, which is why he gave up the second-most home runs in history. So, that might be a problem with some of the power-heavy lineups around. Red Faber was a guy who got into the Hall of Fame for playing forever. He was a deadballer, but not really an elite one. Mike Garcia is filler. Claude Osteen is filler, and I worry that as a somewhat soft-tossing lefty, he's going to get lit up. And speaking of lit up, it's Wilbur Wood, a young knuckleballer! That ought to be exciting! SP5 1. '65 Larry Jackson (CAC) 2. '79 Dave Stieb (TED) 3. '84 Dwight Gooden (NYS) 4. '70 Steve Carlton (LOU) 5. '64 Dean Chance (THU) 6. '?? Leon Day (LOM) I think that Jackson is the best of this lot. I think that, but I'm not sure. But that's what I think. Stieb has usually been decent in the Super-League, and is a perfectly acceptable fifth starter. Dwight Gooden might be great, or might be a disaster. It's hard to say one way or the other. One team in this division is using Carlton as their ace, another is using a similar year of Carlton as their fifth starter. That is not a good sign, Ted Sox. Dean Chance is okay. Not great, and his control issues make me a bit leery, but he's alright, and probably won't be the reason the Thunderstorms get relegated. Leon Day is not going to be great. Accept it, Marauder. Bullpen 1. '06 Joe Nathan/'86 Dan Plesac/'63 Don McMahon/'06 Jesse Crain/'69 Jim Brewer/'69 Jim Bunning (THU) 2. '82 Tom Henke/'96 Doug Jones/'53 Early Wynn/'82 Jon Matlack/'82 Frank Tanana/'01 Roberto Hernandez (LOU) 3. '54 Hoyt Wilhelm/'06 Joe Nathan/'62 Dick Radatz/'73 Mac Scarce/'84 Bill Caudil/'62 Earl Wilson (TED) 4. '76 Mike Marshall/'08 B.J. Ryan/'76 Elias Sosa/'08 Scott Downs/'74 Don Stanhouse/'08 A.J. Burnett (NYS) 5. '99 B.J. Ryan/'65 Billy Hoeft/'03 Bobby Howry/'95 Rick Aguilera/'95 Mike Maddux/'65 Ted Abernathy/'03 Derek Lowe (CAC) 6. '08 Bobby Jenks/'08 Octavio Dotel/'08 Scott Linebrink/'08 Matt Thornton/'95 Rheal Cormier/'66 Larry Jackson (LOM) The Thunderstorms' bullpen makes me flinch the least, so I guess it wins by default, even if it's not exactly jam-packed with high-quality arms. The Muggers have Henke, who I like, and then a lot of starting pitchers holding down the middle of their bullpen, which I find baffling, since this is Monicro's third season in the Super-League, and he should know better. The Ted Sox have issues. Wilhelm is fine, Nathan is fine, everything below that is somewhere between a potential disaster and a certain disaster. The Symphony bullpen has Marshall, who hasn't be great in the Super-League, B.J. Ryan, who is B.J. Ryan, and a guy who drove Earl Weaver to chain-smoking. How can that possibly fail? The Calamities seem to be intent on living up to their name, with B.J. Ryan serving as their closer, which will go great as long as no opposing team is ever clever enough to use a right-handed hitter in a save situation. Beyond Ryan, it's filler. And not Super-League filler, real world filler. The Gumshoes' bullpen is something else. Now personally, I was living in Massachusetts in 2008, and am a Cubs fan regardless, but I don't seem to recall that the White Sox had one of the bet bullpens of all-time. Marauder, in his wisdom, disagrees, as he has put relievers from that team in the highest-leverage spots in the bullpen. Maybe he's right and I'm wrong, but, then again, it's generally the case that the man betting against Bobby Jenks wins big.
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Smasher Dynamo posted:Also, they're only backup infielder is the infant Morgan, who never really played shortstop, or third. I guess the thinking is that you can move Yount or the MACHINE or something if that sort of injury happens, but my preference is for a backup infielder capable of playing more than one infield position. However, there is one change that should be done before week 0: Smasher Dynamo posted:Bullpen Yeah, I mentioned this in an earlier post that I wanted to switch out Don McMahon after seeing how both iterations of him in the league last season performed poorly, even if one of them was on the dead Southie Hitmen. Like I mentioned in that post, I want to give '06 Matt Guerrier another go-around, after a respectable performance last season.
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I'm middle of the pack in nearly everything for the second straight season. Muggers baseball!Smasher Dynamo posted:The Muggers have Henke, who I like, and then a lot of starting pitchers holding down the middle of their bullpen, which I find baffling, since this is Monicro's third season in the Super-League, and he should know better. It worked last season!! 
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GVOLTT posted:Yeah, I mentioned this in an earlier post that I wanted to switch out Don McMahon after seeing how both iterations of him in the league last season performed poorly, even if one of them was on the dead Southie Hitmen. Like I mentioned in that post, I want to give '06 Matt Guerrier another go-around, after a respectable performance last season. Matt Guerrier? MATT GUERRIER?! MATT GUERRIER?!! Yeah, that switch, to put it delicately, is not going to make me think better of your bullpen.
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Cancun drafts Rick Sutcliffe '82 after his improbably good SLX season.
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I love ads like this. I still wish I could find the Twins radio ad about how Doug Mientkiewicz's name is so hard to spell that school house rocks wrote a song about it.
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The Kids are looking good. And most of the spots they scored low in were expected (CF, Bullpen), or exceedingly close (SPs). I will disagree with Murray's placement, if only because, true to his name, he's never been bad in the Super-League, SLRef shows his worst was a 98 OPS+. He's probably no killer, but he'll serve me well. Should be a fun season, all told, and I'm pretty excited to see how it turns out. Plus its full of all my favorite people! Marauder, who shares my curiosity and intruigue when it comes to Ohio pitchers (and through Warm Sass made me feel welcome), GVOLTT (probably my favorite rookie to come in from the disaster of EC9), Monicro (I can't not like Monicro), Moose (the perennial underdog!) And mrnoun (Okay, I don't super-love mrnoun, but he's a cool guy.) All told, I'm super hype for opening day. Also yeah, I know Old Bucketfoot can't really play center. But he probably will at some point if Baby Jim goes down before the Super-Draft. Best of luck to everyone. Here's hoping the Kids make this exciting.
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Monathin posted:Also yeah, I know Old Bucketfoot can't really play center. But he probably will at some point if Baby Jim goes down before the Super-Draft. Why won't people listen? There are two problems with this plan. Firstly, Al Simmons really can't play CF, especially not by '38. It's just not going to work. Secondly, '93 Jim Edmonds probably isn't mature enough to start, as he never really honed his plate discipline until he went to the Cardinals and Tony La Russa used his dark wizardry, draining the life force of Will Clark to do so. Thirdly, even if, arguendo, Edmonds is good enough to start most games, he was never a good hitter against left-handers. His career OPS against LHP is nearly 200 points lower than that against RHP. That's a pretty big split. For comparison sake, Adam Dunn's split is 120 points, Launch Ballman's is about 220, and neither of those guys is typically allowed to face left-handed hitters because they just can't deal with a lefty pitcher's breaking ball. In fairness, unlike Dunn and Berkman, Edmonds does have a lot of defensive value even when he's not hitting well but, even still, this is a situation where platooning is almost mandatory. Now, at the moment, there is not a single player from your feeders capable of playing the role of a platoon partner for Edmonds, and I guess you feel compelled to see if Edmonds can make a go at it full-time. Just know that, if you get a chance, you need a right-hander capable of playing center field.
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