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How the gently caress people, I try to troll: nothing. I talk about a fat lady at Wal-Mart: burning controversy?
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ReindeerF posted:Is there a Wal-Mart in existence without a water fountain? I haven't seen one. It's always right up there next to the shitter, the Mart Karts and the no-doubt-very-qualified optometrist. There are laws that require a business to have water and restrooms.
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Aug 30, 2013 17:00
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Taxchat reminds me. In sorta-thread-related news, the Urban Institute was sufficiently annoyed by the prominent misuse of their 47% number during election season that they've put out a video trying to educate folks. I can't watch it right now, but apparently it also notes that that percentage is dropping and is projected to fall further.
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Aug 30, 2013 17:03
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:You only pay the additional percentage on the income past the bracket cutoff. Ok this makes sense now. I thought it worked like everyone else too. Thank you.
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Aug 30, 2013 17:06
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eviltastic posted:Taxchat reminds me. In sorta-thread-related news, the Urban Institute was sufficiently annoyed by the prominent misuse of their 47% number during election season that they've put out a video trying to educate folks. I can't watch it right now, but apparently it also notes that that percentage is dropping and is projected to fall further. It's too late to undo that damage. You will hear about how half the country literally pays no taxes at all for at least another decade.
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Aug 30, 2013 17:55
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poo poo, right after that Romney video came out, I and others I know posted articles on social media sites explaining in detail why it was wrong and misleading. I saw more than a few sarcastic "heh I gotta figure out how to get into that group" type comments in response to articles explaining why it's a bullshit statistic. The reality denial field surrounding conservatives is truly a modern marvel.
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Aug 30, 2013 18:19
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I explained to two people exactly why that statistic was misleading and the Republican message was absolutely incorrect and at the end they conceded that maybe they were mistaken. No less than a week later they were trotting it out again as if the previous conversation hadn't occurred and they were bringing it to my attention for the first time.
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Aug 30, 2013 18:25
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eviltastic posted:There are very specific circumstances involving poorly designed tax credits where it can happen. But that has little to do with the bracket structure. To be more specific those situations do exist but they're almost entirely ones that screw over lower income earners, not those making the big bucks. Most of the stuff that expires in the 50k+ range has a graduated drop ($1 of credit/discount loss for every $4 of additional income, for example)
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Aug 30, 2013 18:36
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So someone linked this in an awkward and ugly thread and I thought it was semi-relevant to this thread. It's an episode of MTV True Life titled "I Hate The Government" and it's three conservative youths and it basically just confirms what this thread has confirmed over and over again that conservatism seems to require a blatant and possibly even intentional misreading of reality. One guy is opposed to Obama because "Obamacare provides funding for abortions" and "we are a Christian nation and we need to go back to the principles of Christ by banning abortion." Another is a high school kid in California who started the country's first Tea Party high school club and his complaints don't go anywhere beyond "Obama is a socialist and that is bad because obviously." The most interesting is a woman who has some actual solid fears of the government like the Patriot Act, but she follows through by joining a militia and trying to start a congressional militia lobby. The best line so far has been one of her old man militia buddies saying "you have the conviction of a man, but you are a woman." It's really interesting if you want to see what conservative ideas look like beyond the old white men that this thread tends to focus on and it's a good reality check if you think conservatism isn't continuing in the younger generations.
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Aug 30, 2013 19:22
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HootTheOwl posted:Ok this makes sense now. I thought it worked like everyone else too. Thank you. You wanna know what's really sad? You know what does in fact work like that? Programs that benefit the poor! Oh, sorry, you made 2 bucks too much this week, we're taking away your food stamps!
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Aug 30, 2013 20:12
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SilentD posted:There are laws that require a business to have water and restrooms. Those laws are holding us back. We should go back to Free Market solutions. Like emptying chamber pots into the street. Dumping waste into our water supply, taking a poo poo while barefoot.
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Aug 30, 2013 20:59
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Have the AM guys been talking about the fast food strikes at all? It's perfect for them, if I had to guess. Easy meat for the listeners. Drudge sure wasn't holding back with the clever headlines. 
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Aug 30, 2013 22:56
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Sir Tonk posted:Have the AM guys been talking about the fast food strikes at all? It's perfect for them, if I had to guess. Easy meat for the listeners. TARGET: Obama.... Edit: I still can't believe in 2013 that Drudge Report still uses the same page layout it did in 1998.
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Parachute posted:TARGET: Obama.... I'm more impressed he used a picture of McDonald's fries from 1998.
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Aug 30, 2013 23:09
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Parachute posted:TARGET: Obama.... It subconsciously plants the notion that he's too busy focusing on the important stuff you actually care about to bother with window dressing. It's sort of like how Walmart gets people to think they're getting the best possible prices because the stores aren't well-kept.
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I realize intervention in Syria is a huge bag of worms but I gotta vent. So Im at my parents for this weekend and one of the consequences of that is occasionally being forced to listen to  if I cant convince them of a good reason to change the channel. No idea what the hell the show was but this guys starts saying, so 14000 people died from gas attacks in Syria and John Kerry said this is unacceptable, where was this outrage when 4 Americans lost their lives in Benghazi  . Jesus gently caress they just wont stop talking about Benghazi and apparently 4 American lives>than 14000 "mooslum" lives. Oh and then the female host starts talking about how we will shoot some missiles at some camels behinds...  . I cant do it, watching or listening to talk radio just sends my blood pressure through the roof and grows me several grey hairs. Whats worse is that I actually used to unironically watch/listen to these shows. I know it was bad then but it really seems like the right wing rhetoric has been getting worse, please tell me it has dont tell me I was even more of a little poo poo when I was younger than I think. The blatant race baiting during the march on Washington anniversary also nearly sent me into a rage.
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I listened to Levin for the first time today and he was talking about the concussion settlement the NFL just did. Some guy came on and started  -ing about how these guys got millions of dollars but ARE TROOPS don't get any sort of help whatsoever with their head injuries.If only there was some sort of government-funded group that gave troops returning home medical help 
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Aug 31, 2013 02:07
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If one were to analysis Master Shake's complaints, you can come to the conclusion that both professional football and war are merely bloodsport... However, it's Levin so you can just assume "oh, black people" and be 100% certain of it because your dog was barking off in the other room.
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Aug 31, 2013 02:14
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Business Gorillas posted:I listened to Levin for the first time today and he was talking about the concussion settlement the NFL just did. Some guy came on and started The sequester has been the Tea Party wet dream, and it hosed over the troops harder than anything else in...well...ever?
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Aug 31, 2013 02:18
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Business Gorillas posted:I listened to Levin for the first time today and he was talking about the concussion settlement the NFL just did. Some guy came on and started Actually I unironically agree with this, the level of care ARE TROOPS get is atrocious and it is a shame compared to the level of care and settlements that ARE FUTBALL PLAYERS have got.
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Aug 31, 2013 06:56
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EngineerSean posted:Actually I unironically agree with this, the level of care ARE TROOPS get is atrocious and it is a shame compared to the level of care and settlements that ARE FUTBALL PLAYERS have got. Of course the answer should be 'both of those guys should get excellent medical care because both of them are in jobs that involve their bodies having high risk of being ruined by age 40', right?
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Aug 31, 2013 07:24
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Of course the answer should be 'both of those guys should get excellent medical care because both of them are in jobs that involve their bodies having high risk of being ruined by age 40', right? No, the correct answer is to deny the football players any sort of health care at all, ever, because they CHOSE to enter a profession with a high rate of injury and then deny the soldiers any sort of health care because if a person making millions doesn't get care, why should a person making thousands? What are you, a communist?
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ToxicSlurpee posted:No, the correct answer is to deny the football players any sort of health care at all, ever, because they CHOSE to enter a profession with a high rate of injury and then deny the soldiers any sort of health care because if a person making millions doesn't get care, why should a person making thousands? What are you, a communist? the free market has spoken
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Has anyone seen right wing echochamber reporting calling John Kerry a hypocrite for visiting Assad on several occasions? They're usually accompanied by a photo of Kerry, his wife and Assad and his wife at a restaurant. Smear is fun, boys and girls! Sometimes I wonder if the monkeys realize the paint they're using on to decorate their echochamber cave walls is actually their own poo poo...Kerry's made bad judgement calls, but you would think that he was committing high treason in that lobster dinner photo. I was going to post a video of a gorilla eating it's own poo poo, but I thought that might not be appropriate.
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Aug 31, 2013 11:23
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Of course the answer should be 'both of those guys should get excellent medical care because both of them are in jobs that involve their bodies having high risk of being ruined by age 40', right? I generally think that if you're serving the nation in a critical function, in a public institution, that is dangerous, the nation drat well has a responsibility to make sure you have top of the line care, a good wage, and a proper retirement. I don't think that if you're in a private industry which makes billions because stupid poo poo like stadiums that are massively subsidized if not given away, directly owned by billionaires, has tax breaks thrown at it, and you make millions of dollars a year you need anymore loving handouts. I don't think you should have been subsidized in the first place, and the public sure as gently caress isn't responsible for you.
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hseiken posted:Has anyone seen right wing echochamber reporting calling John Kerry a hypocrite for visiting Assad on several occasions? They're usually accompanied by a photo of Kerry, his wife and Assad and his wife at a restaurant. Smear is fun, boys and girls! Sometimes I wonder if the monkeys realize the paint they're using on to decorate their echochamber cave walls is actually their own poo poo...Kerry's made bad judgement calls, but you would think that he was committing high treason in that lobster dinner photo. I always respond with the picture of Ronald Reagan meeting with leaders from the Taliban in the White House. At the very least, you get some feverish doublethink. 
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Aug 31, 2013 13:35
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I believe there's also a nice video of Rumsfeld grinning and shaking hands with Saddam Hussein in the 80s out there.
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SilentD posted:I generally think that if you're serving the nation in a critical function, in a public institution, that is dangerous, the nation drat well has a responsibility to make sure you have top of the line care, a good wage, and a proper retirement. Yes yes yes, but keep in mind that this isn't a public handout from you and I to the damaged former players. The NFL settled the case on its own.
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Malmesbury Monster posted:I always respond with the picture of Ronald Reagan meeting with leaders from the Taliban in the White House. At the very least, you get some feverish doublethink. That photo was taken 11 years before the Taliban was founded. The Saddam-Rumsfeld photo is such an easier go to without the casual racism.
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hseiken posted:Has anyone seen right wing echochamber reporting calling John Kerry a hypocrite for visiting Assad on several occasions? They're usually accompanied by a photo of Kerry, his wife and Assad and his wife at a restaurant. Smear is fun, boys and girls! Sometimes I wonder if the monkeys realize the paint they're using on to decorate their echochamber cave walls is actually their own poo poo...Kerry's made bad judgement calls, but you would think that he was committing high treason in that lobster dinner photo. Nothing short of "sever all contact with all white people and bomb the rest of the world into a barren wasteland" will satisfy the right. All Muslims are the enemy. Why would you speak to the enemy?
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Aug 31, 2013 16:05
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Malmesbury Monster posted:I always respond with the picture of Ronald Reagan meeting with leaders from the Taliban in the White House. At the very least, you get some feverish doublethink. This one's better: 
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SilentD posted:I generally think that if you're serving the nation in a critical function, in a public institution, that is dangerous, the nation drat well has a responsibility to make sure you have top of the line care, a good wage, and a proper retirement. You, uh, do know that the players don't see the returns in the stadium subsidies and poo poo right? Like yea they make good money but the idea that their bosses aren't responsible for their injury is just cartoonishly evil.
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Zeroisanumber posted:This one's better: I feel dumb. but I don't recognize the people in this photo. Who is it?
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Ramadu posted:I feel dumb. but I don't recognize the people in this photo. Who is it? I believe that's Chief Justice Roberts in between Woodrow Wilson and Pancho Villa.
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Aug 31, 2013 20:43
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No, clearly it's Alec Baldwin meeting the soup nazi.
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Ramadu posted:I feel dumb. but I don't recognize the people in this photo. Who is it? GHWB with a slick haircut meeting Zombie Hitler. It's Saddam and Rumsfeld
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Aug 31, 2013 21:07
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The obvious counter to that Rumsfeld picture is some kind of permutation of that quote about England having no natural allies, nor intractable enemies, only eternal interests.
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BiggerBoat posted:I'm waiting to see who the first right wing pundit will be that claims that the chemical weapons Syria used were the ones Saddam smuggled there back in 2002-2003 before the invasion. The ones we never found. Hannity was beating that drum pretty hard a while back when it became clear that Iraq had no WMD's; that he shipped them to Iran or Syria. From the GOP thread: Ramadu posted:Who was it that asked a few days ago when someone would claim the gas used in Syria were the fabled WMDs from Iraq? It's hilarious watching these guys twisting themselves into knots trying to figure out what to be for or against but finding themselves having to wait until Obama comes out on the issue one way or the other. Last week all I heard was how Obama was a hypocrite because he needed Congressional approval and now he's a big paper tiger pussy for not going GWB with the whole matter. Sir Tonk posted:Have the AM guys been talking about the fast food strikes at all? It's perfect for them, if I had to guess. Easy meat for the listeners. Herman Cain is all over it every loving day and rails that if we have to pay 40 cents more for a Quarter Pounder, people will stop eating them and McDonalds will close. Or some such dumb poo poo. I guess it hits close to him and is dear to his heart since he built his fortune by somehow making a pizza tastes worse than a loving Big Mac. He talks about it a lot. I'll try and dig up some transcripts.
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